Dan Logue is my assemblyman, so I’m pleased to pass this bit of news on to WUWT readers.
SACRAMENTO-Assemblyman Dan Logue, R-Marysville, today announced that his bill, Assembly Bill 118, to suspend the California Global Warming Solutions Act (AB 32) will be heard in the Assembly Natural Resources Committee on Monday, January 11, 2010.
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From the Wall Street Journal:
Could Californians finally be serious about turning around their sputtering economy? One hopeful sign is a ballot initiative that would repeal the Golden State’s version of a cap-and-trade carbon tax.
This feel-good law to reduce the state’s carbon footprint was enacted with great hoopla by the Democratic legislature and Republican Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2006 when the state’s economy was growing and the jobless rate was 5%. The law requires that starting in 2012 the state must ratchet down its carbon emissions to 1990 levels by 2020. The politicians and green lobbies told voters this energy tax would create jobs—the same fairy tale many in Washington are repeating today.
Now the jobless rate is 12.3%, 2.25 million Californians are unemployed, and the state government is broke. So Republican Assemblyman Dan Logue has begun collecting signatures for “The Global Warming Solutions Act,” a ballot initiative that would suspend California’s cap-and-trade scheme until the unemployment rate falls below 5.5%. He’s aiming to get it on the November ballot.
No matter what one thinks of climate science, it makes little sense for an individual state to unilaterally impose major new tax and regulatory costs on its own industries. The impact of California’s gesture on global temperatures will be infinitesimal, but the economic impact will make the state even less attractive to start or expand a business.
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I still think that some country or state in the world has to try it with such a disastrous results, that the whole world will understand it is no way. Why not California?
Why don’t they put their money where their mouth is? For instance, several of the big names in climate alarmism have said in the past few months that there’s a better than even chance that 2010 will be the warmest year ever, and yet the odds offered on that bet at https://www.intrade.com/ are just 1 in 4, not (say) 3 in 5, as they would be if warmists were sincere.
Or, if that bet’s not to their taste, there are nearly a dozen others they can take. (Click on Market –> Climate & Weather –> Global Temperature.)
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Vincent (05:01:38) :
Yet Republican’s don’t seem to get it at all and don’t know how to refute the Obama job creation propaganda. There are some individuals like Peter Schiff who are warning about this, but they are outside the political machine.
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Too many Pubs play the political game. Buy into the idea even if it’s BS, just try to find a way to leverage it to their political advantage. Any politician who plays that game that stupidly should be voted out no matter what the party.
You can stop the US Congress and the Obambi administration from taking the nation down the same rathole as California by helping elect Scott Brown to the US Senate next Tuesday (the 19th). Assuming we can keep the sob sisters from Maine in line, Scott Brown will be the 41st Republican vote, enough to prevent the Democrats from stopping a filibuster.
Even if you don’t live in Taxachusetts, send Scott some money: http://www.brownforussenate.com/
And advise any friends or relatives you have here to vote for Scott Brown.
/Mr Lynn
Remember how they used to say that California was going to fall into the Pacific Ocean?
The never mentioned that they would be lopping on the branch themselves.
Cap and Trade will create new jobs. The financial skimmers behind the worlds great financial fraud require extra gardners and maids.
CO2 trading a giant ponzi scheme by white collar criminals.
“green jobs”
Green for lobbyists wallets and for the Waxman, Malarkey cartel.
The green jobs refused to define what green jobs ar. If you ask what they are on Climate progress, your question must be deleted. EU companies like vestas, Seimens and lesser names are getting millions in bribes and kickbacks to build factories and extablish windfarms. Wind farms are not working in blizzards. The extremists are drooling on green jobs but when we see the pilot program in http://www.clepair.net/windsecret.htmlain, it means sitting on a park bench in a green park and unemployment.
There are lengthy lists of layoffs in the wind power manufacturing. They have to hit the granny/nanny up for more subsidies to grow the business.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/6957501/Wind-farms-produced-practically-no-electricity-during-Britains-cold-snap.html
A wind industry generating nearly zero electricity. A fraud. Joe Romm has lost his cool and is angry during the blizzard setbacks. He will glorify the windmill fiasco and must be backed by big wind.
Dear Lord.
Maybe we can recover our good senses.
My hope is that the Democrats lose control of Congress in the fall and the Republicans grow a backbone. If CA insists on keeping legislation like this, they should get no bailouts from the rest of us, and serve to be a shining example of what happens when liberal extremists take control of government.
Cap and trade will create jobs. Worthless jobs.
1 It will create cube farm jobs to “manage” the green monsters
2 It will create tax handling jobs to shake down companies
3 It will create inspectors jobs
4 It will create jobs to insulate homes, do home studies before a house is certified to be purchased. It will create PR and advertising jobs.
5 There will be contracts granted to GE and GE is already spending the stolen tax monies.
None of these jobs create value.
View from abroad the US is commiting suicide.
Michael (00:05:36) :
Now I am on topic.
Good man, keep it that way. There is always Tips and Notes for stuff which won’t wait for a relevant thread. 😉
I’m a little confused. (Nothing new there.) Is Logue pursuing _two_ avenues at the same time–an Assembly bill and a ballot initiative? I’m for both, but only an initiative would have a ghost of a chance in today’s Sacramento.
And here in the UK our Labour government under Gordon Brown peddles the same myths regarding green jobs.
100bn euros of investment in an offshore windelecs project have been sanctioned this week, but the jobs will all go to Germany because we have no manufacturing facilities in UK, the last having closed some months ago due to lack of orders and interest!
The national output from windelecs on the day that this triumph of stupidity over reason was proudly announced was 0.2% of the possible 5% of output from all sources, yet these idiots expect 30% of our power to come from wind by 2020 and are fast eliminating our established power sources in accord with EU instructions on that expectation.
Can no one do the mathematics in Parliament?
Hello Vincent,
Your posts are right-on!
I am going to try to buttress your arguments.
Wealth creation is the modificaiton of natural resources and labor in an economically viable way, that results in the value of the new product being greater than the cost to produce it.
High overhead costs and unproductive labor equals a loss of wealth when creating a product or service. Government, by definition, has an extremely high overhead cost and produces things at losses because of the low productivity of its workers. Patronage hires and large bureaucracies are some of the biggest issues.
Governments and government mandates don’t create wealth.
No wealth creation, no economy, no jobs.
“The impact of California’s gesture on global temperatures will be infinitesimal, but the economic impact will make the state even less attractive to start or expand a business.”
-This from the recent issue of DUH magazine.
This repeal movement is a great idea but it should be permanent.
Cap and trade is nothing more than eco-fascism.It is just another way for losers in the government,that can’t make it in the business world to take over the private sector!It is high time people in this country started fighting the Eco-Nazis!
It would be unmeasurable. Therefore, no possible verification if it had the desired effect. It’s essentially the same outcome for any carbon reduction scheme. There’s no possible way to verify whether a reduction in “carbon” will make any measurable difference in the meaningless metric called “global temperature”.
CA manufacturing losses, thus far, attributable to carbon caps (these are off the top of my head, informed by direct knowledge, and, WARN documents I’ve seen). Some of these are specific factories not the entire firm:
1) NUMMI
2) Quiksilver
3) Northrop Grumman
4) Lockheed Martin
5) Rockwell Collins
6) Boeing
7) Kavlico
8) TTM Technologies
9) Safetran
10) Ametek
11) Seagate
12) Pacific Clay Products
13) NEC
14) Cisco Systems
15) Sony Electronics
In the case of the defense contractors, the jobs moved to business friendly states such as TX, AZ, LA, MS, AL, GA. In the case of the others they typically moved to China or Eastern Europe.
“100bn euros of investment in an offshore windelecs project have been sanctioned this week, but the jobs will all go to Germany because we have no manufacturing facilities in UK,”
Breathtaking in its stupidity. I wonder which of the wonders in government thought that one through? The poor, bedraggled masses will one day start to ask for their promised green jobs, and the government will only shrug their shoulders “No green jobs here my lad, now move along,”
Never mind, their benefit payments will keep the Germans in jobs through all these renewable obligations and emissions certificates they are forced to buy to keep the whole boondangle working.
Dan Logue’s bill was defeated… the Democrats, who rule the Assembly in California voted down the party line. Real idiots!
http://www.flashreport.org/blog.php?postID=2010011118125493
Vincent (08:21:41) : You should abandon inmediately that monster called EU. A former proud empire now a shameful colony.
How did we get here? Manufacturing and raw produce processing regulations were put into place to protect health (remember the meat plants of long ago?). And then to make sure it happened, government inspection workers came round once a year and put a recommendation sticker on your front door. Much money was passed under the table during its hayday, as it was ripe for fraud. Then came the need to reduce or control the rise in governmental spending. So inspector ranks were drastically reduced. Problem was, you could not continue to operate without being inspected. But there was no one inspecting you. So you had to shut your doors.
Small but industrious communities everywhere lost their industries to bigger and more easily accessible towns and cities with similar but regularly inspected plants.
Wallowa County was one such community. We had processing plants for all forms of produce. We had meat plants, flour mills, wool mills, creameries, etc. And we shipped both raw products and finished products out of the county. But eventually the costs (government controlled and taxed wages, benefits, and regulations) to produce such things outpaced the return. And so the county sits with very little left of what was once a productive and producing economy.
California is like Wallowa County on a bigger scale. And so will go every other state in the Union if we continue to allow the government to over-regulate what an individual can or cannot do in creating a product that people can and will buy.
How to solve it? Limit the Federal Government and impose protectionism at our ports. Give us back our forests. Take away all regulations except for basic regulations against truly toxic pollution. Serve only to protect our Union and our Friends against a common enemy, and to fight for individual rights (including the right to a marriage license between consenting adults (as long as they ain’t closer than 2nd cousins, ewww).
Communities must relearn the pioneering way: how to live or die on their own successes and mistakes, not because the government has regulated them out of business. “Paint Your Wagon” is an excellent expose’ on this thinking and well worth a cold day snuggled in bed with hot chocolate.
I don’t see my post yet. Did it fall in a pothole?