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There are some interesting developments in British press about the IPCC and Pachauri, both on the extraordinary financial conflicts of interest in the IPCC process.
In the UK Telegraph, Richard North of the EU Referendum and Christopher Booker strongly suggest IPCC boss Rajendra Pachauri has earned what they claim are vast sums of money from his connection to the trade in carbon credits. North writes:
In addition to his paid post as Director-General of TERI, Pachauri has taken on over twenty additional posts since becoming chairman of the IPCC – another of his paid posts.
From the Telegraph:
What has also almost entirely escaped attention, however, is how Dr Pachauri has established an astonishing worldwide portfolio of business interests with bodies which have been investing billions of dollars in organisations dependent on the IPCC’s policy recommendations.
These outfits include banks, oil and energy companies and investment funds heavily involved in ‘carbon trading’ and ‘sustainable technologies’, which together make up the fastest-growing commodity market in the world, estimated soon to be worth trillions of dollars a year.
Pachauri’s really not happy about this, and has blasted the article in The Indian Express and The Times of India.
I think Pachauri’s train might be off the rails though, since he’s claiming:
The accusations, published in the The Sunday Telegraph, were coming from the same group of people who had tried unsuccessfully to discredit the IPCC and the “irrefutable science” on climate change by hacking personal emails of some scientists a few weeks ago, Pachauri said.
Gosh, accusing journalists now of being the Climatgate hackers? Desperate are we?
Steve (12:11:28) :
“Despite the fact that a large portion of the world seems to be following this farce off the cliff, it’s still amazing to me that even a fraction of this information about Pachauri wold not bring this entire scheme to the ground….”
Steve I have asked socialist friends about this. I have pointed out that AGW is a scam devised to lead to Global Governance and they are all for it. They WANT to be come “good Global citizens” The brainwashing is much deeper than just AGW.
Here is a Chronology of Education showing how education has become twisted
http://www.crossroad.to/Books/BraveNewSchools/Chronology.htm
And yes I know the site has religious overtones, it does not mean the information is invalid. The fight for our freedom makes for strange bedfellows.
Vincent (10:33:35) :
Richard Nehring (09:52:34) :
“It’s not a matter of putting their money where their mouth is; it’s a matter of putting their mouth where their money is!”
No doubt true, but I believe Tim’s comment was meant as an allusion to Maurice Strong’s reply to a similar question on the Fox documentary. When the interviewer suggested that as Strong was a director of the Chicago Exchange, he stood to make a lot of money on emissions trading. His reply was as brilliant as it was mendacious – he was just putting his money where his mouth is.
It seems that one of the reasons that Maurice Strong lives in Beijing is that they do not have an extradition treaty with the USA or Canada. The authorities there wish to ask him some serious questions about the oil-for-food program and its misuse.
So whose money is he putting where his mouth is?
These UN poobahs are uniformly corrupt. Recall Kofi Annan as his huge family profits from the “Oil for Food” swindle.
Gail Combs (15:24:11) :
Strong is all set to divert what is left of the wealth in the USA, Canada and the EU into making China the new world power.
Oh c’mon. Do you think he sits in a pagoda over there stroking a white cat and summarily executing minions or something?
‘certainly no one from the UK voted for Gordon Brown as PM.
Smokey – no one in the history of “The Mother of all Parliaments” has ever voted for the Prime Minister. The public vote for a party who then choose their leader.’
Voters in the UK choose a party AND a leader simultaneously, as all parties go into elections with their best leader already in situ. Increasingly the personality of the leader plays hugely with the intentions of the voter; a non-charismatic, glum, hardly articulate lump is an albatross about the neck of any party. Now we are to have Presidential-style leader debates for the three main parties on BBC, ITV and Sky. Don’t tell me or anyone else in the UK that we don’t elect leaders on the basis of how they appear in the media and that this does not massively sway where the voter puts his or her cross.
I propose a new rule: Pachauri is now officially nicknamed Patchouli
…and speaking of Wiki-hacking, call it a hunch but I’m betting someone snuck this in as a joke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patchouli#Uses):
“In Europe and the US, patchouli oil and incense underwent a surge in popularity in the 1960s and 1970s.
It is also widely worn by gypsies and hippies. This has lead to much ridicule and humilation in society today. Most of which is well deserved. Slay the Beast.”
Pachauri claims:
“Every single payment that I receive goes to my organization (TERI) which is non-profit organization.
I have no doubt that his assertion is true. TERI probably is non profit, after Pachauri extracts his millions in salary and dividends.
Peter of Sydney (13:42:24) :
“Another way of looking at this is it’s like insider trading. Al Gore and the rest should be charged with insider trading once carbon trading becomes popular.”
One wonders if they are already looking for ways to … uh … hide this decline:
Carbon Prices No Likee Copenhagen Result
“Not only world leaders, United Nations delegates and environmentalists were disappointed in the weak accord reached in the 11th hour of the Copenhagen climate talks — the markets for carbon allowances didn’t like the deal either. Bloomberg is reporting that on the first day of trading since the accord announcement, European and UN carbon prices have seen their biggest drop since February because of the vague and unsubstantial outcome.
[…]
[…] European Union carbon-dioxide allowances declined as much as 8.7 percent on the European Climate Exchange in London, and the UN’s Certified Emission Reductions credits fell as much 7 percent, the most since Feb. 20.
[…]
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/earth2tech/~3/DALZeLjflyQ
This guy makes Bernie Madoff look penny ante.
You must read the full Telegraph article! Part of it says :
“Under the CDM [Clean Development Mechanism], firms and consumers in the developed world pay for the right to exceed their ‘carbon limits’ by buying certificates from those firms in countries such as India and China which rack up ‘carbon credits’ for every renewable energy source they develop – or by showing that they have in some way reduced their own ‘carbon emissions’.
It is one of these deals, reported in last week’s Sunday Telegraph, which is enabling Tata to transfer three million tonnes of steel production from its Corus plant in Redcar [UK] to a new plant in Orissa [India], thus gaining a potential £1.2 billion in ‘carbon credits’ (and putting 1,700 people on Teesside out of work).”
With this kind of return I would expect all high CO2 industries to be transferred from Europe to the developing world, and from the US once cap and trade gets going.
Is someone in the UK clever enough to organise a blog to inform the steel workers of Redcar about Pachauri’s influence in the relocation of steel production to India and about his pivotal role in so many different pies. The Sunday Telegraph has a limited readership. On-line communications decided the Xmas no. ‘1’ record so it must be possible. Sadly, I’m an old Luddite barely computer literate otherwise I’d do it myself. Aiming at the money trail is the way to go; people understand that and are fully primed after our MPs expenses revelations. I suspect the scientists involved are the victims of hubris, but behind them stands money. The UK teaching of science, in general, is so poor that very few have the slightest grasp of any technical detail.
We need a whistleblower in Pachauri’s entourage to release his emails and business dealings. We need transpararency. Maybe someone should offer a substantial monetary prize for any whistleblower that exposes the lies of the AGW industry. Any rich skeptic reading WUWT, please do your part.
Vincent (10:33:35) :
“…It seems that one of the reasons that Maurice Strong lives in Beijing is that they do not have an extradition treaty with the USA or Canada. The authorities there wish to ask him some serious questions about the oil-for-food program and its misuse…”
Yes, Maurice Strong, has some rather unethical business dealings in his back ground. Strong had a history as a swindler long before his involvement with the oil-for-food program or Obama, Gore and the Chicago Climate Exchange. Strong has also been caught up insider trading scams such as the AZL Resources Lawsuit in a business deal with Saudi arms dealer Adnan Khashogg (Iran-Contra Affair) and the Molten Metal Inc swindle involving Al Gore, The First Earth Day, tax payer money, lawsuits and a House Committee Investigation.
There is even alleged lawsuits tying Al Gore and Strong to the development of a new type of saboteur bomb!
“…. belief Gore hired Canadian privy councilors in 1994 to develop molten-metal bomb, hot enough to demolish steel-framed building or vaporize evidence of murder, arson and reinsurance frauds.” http://www.scoreboard-canada.com/cin-moltenmetalmurder.htm
Adnan Khashogg is another one worth doing a search on… if you can stomach reading about him.
If half of what is written about these people is true the cess pool is really deep.
tallbloke (15:54:58) :
Gail Combs (15:24:11) :
Strong is all set to divert what is left of the wealth in the USA, Canada and the EU into making China the new world power.
Oh c’mon. Do you think he sits in a pagoda over there stroking a white cat and summarily executing minions or something?
Reply:
No of course not. That is what he has his UN, World bank, Club of Rome, Comission on Global Governance… connections and most importantly his army of NGO activists for. This guy has been working on this since 1970, do you really think he doesn’t have all his pawns in place by now?? Do you think he is in this alone? Check out his connections and preparations before you dismiss this viper.
tallbloke
I realize I did not make myself clear.
Strong, Gore and Obama have a finger in the carbon trade through “Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX) – North America’s only cap and trade system” He has the ear of the Chinese government as their chief environmental advisor AND he works for an international engineering and Construction firm, CH2M Hill.
Also Strong is an advisor to the World Bank and was/is a chief advisor to the UN and somewhere in this mess- the leaked “Denmark papers” – the World Bank was going to be put in charge of the moneys headed for “developing nations”
So my dollars go to the Chicago Climate Exchange then to the World Bank then to the Chinese government and then to CH2M Hill to build China’s new factories. Notice Strong has a finger in every pie along the chain.
This is an interesting line in Richard’s blog that some may have missed: “he is booking his business expenses to the IPCC. And yes, I do have the evidence.”
Pachauri will not sue. He daren’t.
Fair enough; somehow I missed the links.
The people who have flung these charges are part of the same vested interest group which hacked the server of UK’s East Anglia University. They are getting desperate because the world is now serious about moving away from fossil fuels. I want to ask them how much money they spent in the operation? Hacking a server is a costly exercise
I have seen a lot of conspiracy theories thrown around when it comes to AGW but this is a classic. Quite a change of heart in just a few weeks.
[BBC]The head of the UN’s climate science body says claims that UK scientists manipulated data on global warming should be investigated.
So now it’s all just part of a shadowy conspiracy to expose rotten science and identify the snouts in the trough.
What a tangled web we weave… Eh Raj?
Jack in Oregon (10:14:24) :
All very “Yes Minister”.
If at first you don’t succeed… rig the game.
The first instalment of the expenses scam …
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2009/12/pachauri-basques-in-glory.html
lot more to follow.
Here’s a silly ditty featuring Al Baby, Barrack, Pachauri, Mikey Mann and our own climate goof David Suzuki.
http://sendables.jibjab.com/view/Tjn25n5MGzXHpm8H
I acknowledge this childish .. but then it fits, wot? ☺
I have no idea if Dr. Pachauri personally profits from his associations, and it doesn’t matter anyway. If he were motivated by fanatacism, that’s not any better than being motivated by greed. I wouldn’t want to casually throw around accusations about the man. What is important is that he is likely wrong, not who’s paying him.
I do find it interesting that he felt the need to put “irrefutable science” in quotes.
Pachauri should have a side heart to heart with big Al and tell him about becoming a vegetarian to save the planet.
I don’t think Pachauri is truly desperate just yet.
If he was he would be playing the racist card and he has not done so yet from the links I have perused.
I am happy to be corrected here.
The Indian cricket board/team/fans have been using it for years.
If the UK/Australia/New Zealand cricket board/team/fans question your behaviour, scream RACIST! and you are now the victim.
Jabba the Cat (12:29:33) :
Miliband condemns China for destroying his fantasies.
China trembles. He he.”
Yep. They got a lot more to worry about than little ol Pachauri:
http://www.carnegieendowment.org/publications/index.cfm?fa=view&id=18110
Gail Combs (17:45:30) :
So my dollars go to the Chicago Climate Exchange then to the World Bank then to the Chinese government and then to CH2M Hill to build China’s new factories. Notice Strong has a finger in every pie along the chain.
First you have to send money to the CCE. That seems to be a dimming proposition given the collapse of carbon prices and scandal. However you make a good point re the China chain of corruption – which is China’s Achilles heel and predicts their future:
http://www.carnegieendowment.org/publications/index.cfm?fa=view&id=1963