Pachauri's Carbon Choo-Choo off the rails

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Rajendra Pachauri, IPCC Chairman Image: Jo Nova

There are some interesting developments in British press about the IPCC and Pachauri, both on the extraordinary financial conflicts of interest in the IPCC process.

In the UK  Telegraph, Richard North of the EU Referendum and Christopher Booker strongly suggest IPCC boss Rajendra Pachauri has earned what they claim are  vast sums of money from his connection to the trade in carbon credits. North writes:

In addition to his paid post as Director-General of TERI, Pachauri has taken on over twenty additional posts since becoming chairman of the IPCC – another of his paid posts.

From the Telegraph:

What has also almost entirely escaped attention, however, is how Dr Pachauri has established an astonishing worldwide portfolio of business interests with bodies which have been investing billions of dollars in organisations dependent on the IPCC’s policy recommendations.

These outfits include banks, oil and energy companies and investment funds heavily involved in ‘carbon trading’ and ‘sustainable technologies’, which together make up the fastest-growing commodity market in the world, estimated soon to be worth trillions of dollars a year.

Pachauri’s really not happy about this, and has blasted the article in The Indian Express and The Times of India.

I think Pachauri’s train might be off the rails though, since he’s claiming:

The accusations, published in the The Sunday Telegraph, were coming from the same group of people who had tried unsuccessfully to discredit the IPCC and the “irrefutable science” on climate change by hacking personal emails of some scientists a few weeks ago, Pachauri said.

Gosh, accusing journalists now of being the Climatgate hackers? Desperate are we?

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North of 43 south of 44
December 21, 2009 12:35 pm
Malcolm Hill
December 21, 2009 12:37 pm

Lets see now
1.The Chairman of the IPCC has his hand in the till and many conflicts of interest— which Governments and authorities around the world all turn a blind eye to.
2.He receives an Honorary docorate from the University of East anglia (UEA).
3.The UEA’s CRU is responsible for the climate science input to the IPCC,chaired by the same money maker.
4. The CRU head has been stood down pending an investigation into what has been going on amid claims that he may have been involved in improper scientific practices,bullying, financial fiddles, corrupting the Peer Review process, and data fiddling. etc etc
5.Climategate gate shows that his colleagues in other countries are also complicit, and involved in the creation of famous hockey stick corruption of the science–which became the rallying cry of the the Chairman as he sold the game around the world-and built up his investments with the money men.
6.Other scientists in other institutions remain silent and go along wih the game.
7. The money men who are mainly those same bright young things who brought us the GFC see another scam in the offering and cant wait to get going with carbon trading–so they exert pressure wherever they can on the political system
8.The publically funded scientists involved are now found to complict in the corruption of the temperature data bases used,which helps feed the cause.–and they can see gravy train as well so they fight tooth and nail for the game
9.Meanwhile the Chairman and his mate Big Al, continue to prosper and grow their asset bases at our expense, with us mug punters having been sold a pup by a bunch of crooks.
10. The dopey dogooders have a gab fest and agree that they should continue to spend up big solving a problem the Chairman and his mate Big Al created in the first place but which the proper science might say is a beat up ..if they were allowed to be heard.
Is that a fair assessment.?
One final question. If climate change means both natural and anthroprogenic and we are going to spend trillions reducing one when it is in parallel being affected by the other.How will we ever know when the job is done, or does it just go on for ever.
This is the grandest scam of them all –why didnt I think of it.

james griffin
December 21, 2009 12:38 pm

The people who are supposed to protect democracy are the “free press” and their abject failure to do so is shameful.
One day it will rebound on them….badly.

JonesII
December 21, 2009 12:40 pm

OT: As we are in the days of “El Nino” (around christmas, when the “child” is born), does anybody see any el nino here?:
http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sst_anom.gif
Nice chilling christmas and frozen new year!

John Galt
December 21, 2009 12:44 pm

How to make money selling carbon credits?
1. Harvest some forest and sell the wood as biomass (bio-fuel).
2. Sell the right to have new trees planted in somebody’s name.
3. To really make money, charge for each seed planted, not for each tree that actually grows to maturity.
4. To supplement your income:
_ Pledge to not take trips in an SUV (assuming you don’t already own one, unless it’s a hybrid). Sorry, don’t pledge this, sell it as an offset. (“For $50 month, I will drive a Prius and not a Hummer in your name.”)
_ Sell not taking a private jet when you travel. Since you are not doing it, somebody else is free to do so. Sell not flying first class, etc., etc..
_ Hire people who are already home-bound. Since they aren’t commuting, you sell the right to their commuter miles and the carbon they would burn if they did work and if they drove at least the average amount of commuter miles per year, etc.
The key is to pay yourself a large stipend as administrator of the fund. Be sure to keep your private money seperate, but also be sure that everywhere you go, every trip you take has some activity related to the fund so you can write that off or claim credit for it.
Make it a not-for-profit if you can.
It’s easy!

b_C
December 21, 2009 12:50 pm

Simple solution:
Before anyone in receipt of any taxpayer-funded resources is allowed to collect, analyze and/or draw/publish conclusions about weather or climate, whether with respect to proxy or historically recorded data ….
AND
Before any politician, public servant/government appointee or special interest group head is permitted to make any pronouncement committing or demanding further taxpayer resources …
S/he shall be hooked up to a polygraph – and the results made public – to establish whether s/he has ANY monetary interest in the outcome of said pronouncement or conclusion.
A cheap process at 1/100th of the cost of what appears to be the monies ready to be thrown at the issues coming out of Copenhagen!
There was an old Johnny Carson skit to this effect; it involved electricity, a zapper and a loud buzzer.

aylamp
December 21, 2009 12:55 pm

Possibly OT but interesting COP15 webcast on melting ice and sea level rises. Bob Corell moves on quickly through the multitude of slides, no time for questions or dissenting voices, it’s much worse than we thought…
http://www9.cop15.meta-fusion.com/kongresse/cop15/templ/play.php?id_kongressmain=1&theme=unfccc&id_kongresssession=2550

Michael In Sydney
December 21, 2009 12:57 pm

Got to love how Richard North Signs off from his Pachauri blog…
“Up yours, Pachauri, you are a thief as well as a liar.”
Jeez I laughed 🙂 Great to read a blog with the courage of their convictions.
Cheers
Michael

JonesII
December 21, 2009 1:08 pm

John Galt (12:44:54) : Don’t be naive. They don’t expect anybody to plant trees or whatever, they will give you US$3 per hectare/year as carbon credit in exchange of a signed paper from you. You’ll never see them again in your life until someone else comes to throw you off from your land and send you to a labours’ camp, where you will be generously supplied with a daily ration of “soma” (kool-aid like) which will make you feel happy while you work.
Merry Christmas!

Michael
December 21, 2009 1:09 pm

Polar Bears and BBQ Sauce (11:26:39) : Wrote
“Repower America is requesting your photo and message on their “Wall” of believers right now. you may want to go there and state your opinion. It helps to post a photo. http://www.repoweramerica.org/wall/#
I got my naked cowboy picture right in the middle, but they cut the top and the bottom. If someone else wants to re upload it, you probably have to crop the bottom off.
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/135/l_4e9760fc00cd4420b33f045ef93a8349.jpg

AdderW
December 21, 2009 1:22 pm

Another model prediction to add to the scare:

Global Warming Likely to Be Amplified by Slow Changes to Earth Systems, Geologists Say
ScienceDaily (Dec. 21, 2009) — The kinds of increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide taking place today could have a significantly larger effect on global temperatures than previously thought, according to a new study led by Yale University geologists.

and why would this model be superior and more credible than the others??

F. Ross
December 21, 2009 1:24 pm

“The accusations, published in the The Sunday Telegraph, were coming from the same group of people who had tried unsuccessfully to discredit the IPCC and the “irrefutable science” on climate change by hacking personal emails of some scientists a few weeks ago, Pachauri said.

I note that Dr. Pachauri doesn’t contest or answer the accusations, but rather just deflects them by saying they were made by “the same group.”
It would be interesting to know exactly what the “irrefutable science” is. Maybe he is referring to some [magical] “science” which has no falsifiability test, and which, therefore, is not science at all.
Reply: Ok, I’m no fan of Pachauri, but you might want to at least read the linked articles before you make uninformed statements such as:

I note that Dr. Pachauri doesn’t contest or answer the accusations, but rather just deflects them by saying they were made by “the same group.”

Seriously, can we raise the discussion bar please? ~ ctm

Peter of Sydney
December 21, 2009 1:42 pm

Another way of looking at this is it’s like insider trading. Al Gore and the rest should be charged with insider trading once carbon trading becomes popular.

Michael
December 21, 2009 1:44 pm

Changing America with Propaganda.
Change you can believe in.

Richard
December 21, 2009 1:46 pm

Richard responds to Pachauri’s claims of innocence:
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2009/12/its-all-lies.html
“Up yours, Pachauri, you are a thief as well as a liar.”
This Richard concurs. Pachauri you are a liar and a thief.

Peter of Sydney
December 21, 2009 1:58 pm

Pachauri and others keep saying there is irrefutable science on climate change. This is the most important aspect of the whole issue. If the evidence really did exists we wouldn’t be having all this fuss and argument. Given the debate is still alive, it proves there is no such evidence. I’ve yet to see any real evidence anyway to discuss. So, the debate continues until we are presented with the irrefutable science.

Michael
December 21, 2009 1:58 pm

This is Absolutely Magnificent!

Bernice
December 21, 2009 2:34 pm

Someone asked if Phil Jones and Michael Mann have any large financial interests in IPCC related carbon schemes.
I suspect the answer is “No”. These guys are scientists, immersed in something much bigger and better than money, their self importance, hailed as visionary scientists, celebrities in their own right.
But really, they were just pawns in the whole affair. A group of fundamentalist scientists strapped to the ideology that the planet was at tipping point, whether it be through rising temperatures, over population, over consumption or a combination of all three.
The cap and traders grasped this fatalism from the beginning, promoting them, and their deluded ideology, elevating Jones, Mann & others to positions as celebrity scientists, to do the dirty work needed for Cap and Trade(mann made global warming). In the new elevated positions as saviors of the world, the scientists adjusted the science to comply with their own settled science. As celebritydom loomed larger, so to did their arrogance and contempt for others who did not follow the mantra.
It just took the likes of Pachauri, Gore, other financiers, charlatans to tap into the God delusion disorder of the scientists.
Mann and Jones were always going to be disposable. Throw the scientist to the lions, suggest better methods for future peer reviews, who cares, job complete for the cap and traders.

Henry chance
December 21, 2009 2:59 pm

Kickbacks and bribes. The only business model for the U.N.
Who will investigate? I miss President Bush.

tallbloke
December 21, 2009 3:09 pm

The U.N. top brass named Pachauri
Found a rotten old fish in his dowry
In the Indian Express
He exclaimed in distress
“That stink is not me it’s the cowry!”

Sordnay
December 21, 2009 3:18 pm

I thought there was no such a thing as “Irrefutable science”, I’ll have to go back to college or maybe I’ll just forget everything, and live happly ignorant forever after.

Gail Combs
December 21, 2009 3:24 pm

JackStraw (11:58:43) : …and that guy now lives in China. Which is the target he is aiming to?
Yes and Strong is all set to divert what is left of the wealth in the USA, Canada and the EU into making China the new world power. He is now an Advisor to China and Living in Beijing.
And who does Maurice Strong work for in Beijing? CH2M Hill.
CH2M Hill, 1946 in Corvallis, Oregon, is “an employee-owned, multinational firm providing engineering, construction, operations and related services to public and private clients in numerous industries on six continents. CH2M HILL offers integrated services that help …”
Strong’s cousin, Anna Louise Strong, was a Marxist, and a member of the Comintern. She spent two years with Mao and Chou En-lai. Her was burial in China in 1970 was personally organized by Chou En-lai. Strong visited China to persuade them to participate in the critical 1972 Stockholm Conference. The Chinese had not appeared at any U.N. function since the 1949 revolution. Strong was well received by the Chinese who took Strong to visit the grave of his cousin.

tallbloke
December 21, 2009 3:24 pm

Smokey (10:28:44) :
…Gordon Browns quote . . .
“I believe that in 2010 we will need to look at reforming our international institutions.”
Question: Who elected Gordon Brown?

No-one elected the Broon, we just sort of inherited him.
But anyway Smokey, he’s right!
We do need to reform our international institutions.
Just not in the way he had in mind.

Henry chance
December 21, 2009 3:26 pm

My Chrysler dealership is closed
Our family lost Cadillac and Pontiac\\Let me check out Rickshaws. Got to be a hot car line.
The EPA will not dare reject the Rickshaws for our standards.

December 21, 2009 3:29 pm

Honestwriting (11:49:47) :
I had left a message on Pachauri’s blog several days ago asking the good doctor to address Delingpole’s discussion of his financial interests. I see that my comments are no longer there.
http://blog.rkpachauri.org/

Did you save a screenshot of your post?