Jon Stewart Mocks: ‘Poor Al Gore. Global warming completely debunked via the very Internet you invented!’
I recall seeing a recent poll or news story where many of the under 25 crowd don’t pay much attention to TV news, but they watch Jon Stewart’s Daily Show. Should be interesting to see how this plays out.
[update, here is the link on the The Daily Show’s site, ~ charles the moderator]
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Hopenchangen is shaping up to be a major gong show
Jim (09:15:00) : I like your list 🙂
Jon Stewart still touted AGW and acted as though it is a fact.
Indiana Bones (08:21:49) :
“And the huge young audience anxious to see authoritarians caught with their collective hand in the cookie jar.”
Ah, maybe make that “COLLECTIVIST HAND”?
😀
I’m way over 25, yet the only time I find out about “real” news like Glenn Beck is when it is featured on the Stewart’s Daily Show. 😉
(Exception — I did happen to see Beck’s excellent interview of Anthony independently of Stewart’s show!
There must be a lot of programmers out there who are looking at the CRU code and data sets and thinking “I could build something better than that!”. There is also an urgent need to sort out just which parts of it are useful and which parts are junk.
So maybe what we really need right now is an open source climate-modelling project, with the goal of building a really robust climate model using the same approach that produced software like Apache and Linux. I’m sure there are plenty of open-minded scientists and expert programmers who would be willing to donate their time, and peer-review by thousands of volunteers would soon grind out the bugs. Everything would be open, so there would be no room for groupthink or deception.
I suspect that a project like this would be able to produce something more robust than the CRU random hockey stick generator in an amazingly short time.
Unfortunately the show ends with the statement that Global Warming is real and makes Senator Inhofe look like a fool.
It’s not funny, not honest and delusional.
He is feeding his public with the wrong conclusions.
This is not a “contribution” to our case.
Interesting New Finding From NASA on Climate Change
http://www.weathernewengland.com/forecast-discussion/interesting-new-finding-from-nasa-on-climate-change/1005768.html
Weatheraction report here:
http://www.weatheraction.com/docs/WANews09No91.pdf
Jim (09:15:00): Things we can live without: 1. New Scientist.
Indeed. I read the latest New Scientist editorial today, “personal emails”, “climate change deniers”, “no evidence in hundreds of emails”.
I think I may cancel my New Scientist subscription today. I am NOT a climate change denier, climate is changing as always, AND I think that CO2 will lead to increased temperature, but not as much as the AGW supporters think, more along the estimates of Dr. Lindzen. New Scientist cannot continue to use the terms “climate change denier”, “climate change sceptic”; no one is claiming that the climate is not changing. We are debating for and against AGW. You can state that Dr. Richard Lindzen at MIT is a leading AGW critic and that Dr. Michael E. Mann is a leading AGW supporter. Got that New Scientist?
They’re right. The emails are “out of context” or “tacky” or “represent nothing more than poor judgement.” Yep. Sweep under the rug. Move on, nothing here to see.
Evidence of real wrongdoing will be discovered in the released computer code files. This cannot be “out of context.” It’s proof of real manipulation of the data.
KEEP WORKING THE CODE!
Anthony, I love your artful sense of humor. Agreed, it is now serious! Thanks for the double chuckle. 🙂
Too bad he isn’t bright enough to realize that if the warming is debunked that the cause of any so called related sea rise is also debunked and that maybe the polar bears are dying because there are now so many that they are over running their food source… they probably need a predator to help balance the polar bear “over population” problem… oops, I forgot, it was government policy that created the polar bear population explosion that is now evidenced by their dying off from starvation. In nature, over population is balanced by predation, or starvation… it works perfectly. Also, most people don’t realize that polar bears are water creatures and are as at home in the water as they are on land. So called melting ice is not the problem.
Stephen
Liberal and conservative are vocabulary words that have totally lost meaning. They are just words to keep us in our respective boxes and at each others throats. I am a liberal (by my definition, obviously not the definition that most here use to disparage the word) that is a AGW skeptic. In the world of boxes, that does not compute. Get out of the habit of staying in anyone box. Seek the truth wing not the right or left.
Cromagnum: Hopefully WE will win. The script has not given itself away just yet.
I’ve posted the following at realclimate, let’s see if Gavin answers
Gavin,
1) There was no “security breach” at CRU that “stole” these files
2) The files appear genuine and to have been prepared by CRU staff, not edited by malicious hackers
3) The information was accidentally or deliberately released by CRU staff
4) Selection criteria appears to be compliance with an or several FOIA request(s)
Being that you have insider insight from conversations with the principals involved, why don’t you tell us how they were released, instead of letting commenters continue to flog the meme that they were “stolen” by “denialist hackers”?
Or are you saving that story for the investigations 🙂
Ron de Haan (09:42:24) :
He is feeding his public with the wrong conclusions.
This is not a “contribution” to our case.
I watched the whole video and thought it was fair. What more does the truth need?
I’m not a lawyer, but I think there are grounds for a class action suit against Gore. That’s based on the showing of his scare movie to public school students. Did your child have to go the therapy, or does your child have nightmares because of this forced viewing? The movie was made for the specific purpose of scaring people, and the public school administrators who mandated it should be taken to task. The creator of the hoax needs to be held accountable.
“This is [Gaia’s] sole legacy: a massive post-traumatic stress disorder*.”
“Huffington Post Suffers ClimateGate Panic Attack
Your humble correspondent has been checking the Huffington Post Green section every day since the ClimateGate scandal exploded. After all, that Green section is pretty much predicated on the theory that the earth is warming dangerously and that Man is the cause of it. At first, the Green section had a few relatively minor stories attempting to dispute the revelations of the ClimateGate scandal. However, today the Huffington Post went into a complete panic mode on this topic. Bigtime.
The Green section now features a huge story at the top of the page by Katherine Goldstein which features a slideshow supposedly exposing “The 7 Biggest Lies About the ‘Global Warming Hoax’.” However, even many of their own readers aren’t buying the lame excuses presented as you will see here.
So let us now join the Huffington Post Green section as irritation is expressed over the term “ClimateGate” as they wish it to be replaced by “SwiftHack”:
(Excerpt) Read more at newsbusters.org”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2398572/posts
Gaia is a narcissist:
“*(H/T) The “small people”, the “rank and file”, the “loyal soldiers” of the narcissist – his flock, his nation, his employees – they pay the price. The disillusionment and disenchantment are agonizing. The process of reconstruction, of rising from the ashes, of overcoming the trauma of having been deceived, exploited and manipulated – is drawn-out. It is difficult to trust again, to have faith, to love, to be led, to collaborate. Feelings of shame and guilt engulf the erstwhile followers of the narcissist. This is his sole legacy: a massive post-traumatic stress disorder.”
http://www.globalpolitician.com/25109-barack-obama-elections
Thank you so much Australia !!!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-climate-change-confe/6710698/Copenhagen-climate-summit-Australias-failure-to-stop-pollution-threatens-climate-change-deal.html
Ron de Han, its not the message – its the fact that he is even covering it.
Wish me luck, I’m going to need it.
For the USHCN station of Weaverville, CA
I have found this:
049490 CA 01 WEAVERVILLE RS TRINITY
049490 01 01 1871 06 30 1893 000000000000000 40 44 122 56 999 999 2050 9999 999 WEAVERVILLE 000000000000000100000000000000000000 9999 9999 1000000000000000 GEORGE E NOONAN 00
049490 01 01 1894 05 31 1894 000000000000000 40 44 122 56 999 999 2050 9999 999 WEAVERVILLE 010000110000000100000000000000000000 9999 9999 0000000000000000 GUSSIE L STILLER 00
049490 04 01 1912 09 17 1928 000000000000000 40 44 122 56 999 999 2050 0001 SE WEAVERVILLE 010000110000000100000000000000000000 9179 0305 1010000000000000 US FOREST SERVICE
The data from 1871 to 1893 is missing.
I have contacted the CDIAC requesting the whereabouts of the missing station data from George E. Noonan, whom I have researched locally. He did exist, collected the temp & precip. for both Weaverville and La Grange Placer mine (Trinity County) and was also a pharmacist in town from 1859 onwards. Our historical society had the precipitation data to 1869 from George.
Also mysteriously missing is the data collected by Stiller from past 5/1894, a compositor for the town’s newspaper and a spinster, who lived until well
beyond 1901.
Let’s see what kind of transparency will emerge post ClimateGate Change.
Andrew Zalotocky (09:42:21) :
YES YES YES!!!!!
I proposed this on the Tips and Notes page a couple days ago.
Someone posted a quote on here a while back saying, essentially that scientific opposition to a theory without having an alternate theory is a waste
As fans of “real” science, I propose we start with an in-the-open, open source, temperature record
Great minds think alike good sir!
Jon Stewart has a few of the dots in front of him: “using a trick” to “hide a decline”, and “throwing out raw data” in favor of “value added data” (he really had fun with that one). Maybe if he could just add a few more, and started, oh I don’t know, connecting them, a lightbulb would go off and he would realize there is a veritable comedy gold mine sitting there just waiting for him in mocking and poking fun at the Warmists.
Making fun of “Deniers” is so yesterday.
Global Warming and freedom of speech have long had an uneasy relationship.
Guardian:
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Why do climate deniers hold sway in Australia?
If Australia does not silence its sceptics…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/01/climate-change-climate-change-scepticism
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For a concrete view on the silencing of sceptics, see the following link: http://nagant.info/?img=417
Even God mocks coaxenhagen now. I happen to be here and it is below zero and This forecast is part of our detailed December forecast for Europe produced mid-November and unchanged since:
6th-10th Dec. is a Red Weather Warning period of DISRUPTIVE weather (Solar Weather Impact Period, SWIP) especially 6/7th & 9-10th of Heavy blustery rain or sleet turning to snow or blizzards with bitter winds at times in parts of the region – likely to hit worst around President Obama’s visit to Denmark & Norway (8th -10th).
11th-13th Dec will be mostly cold but less windy with lower precipitation and be foggy & misty at times.
14th-16/17th Dec will have more snow showers which will turn heavy with biting cold winds.
Around 17/18th is likely to have snow flurries & stay cold near summit end.
Denmark / Copenhagen weather is expected to turn milder in the days just after the summit end.