Video: Dr. Tim Ball on the CRU emails

My own E-mail friendship with John Daly was a privilege.His memory is served best by
pursuit of this to the end.E-mail E-mail E-mail.Don’t quit.Congress,or your own legislative body. I wonder what Monckton is up to?

Anyone notice the exchange at 1255558867.txt (http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=1058&filename=1255558867.txt)?
It is about the October 2009 BBC article “doing a U turn” on temps no longer warming.
That is Mike Mann throwing Gavin Schmidt under the bus when Tom Wigley states : “there have been a number of dishonest presentations of model results by individual authors and by IPCC.”
Mike Mann quibbles a bit looking for an explanation for models failing to address cooling and then says: “perhaps Gavin has some further comments on this (it is his plot after all)”
Mann offers Wigley this statement after Mann had told Wigley to look at Schmidt’s graph that is “worth a thousand words” at http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/05/moncktons-deliberate-manipulation/ . Wigley looked at it and makes the “dishonesty” charge.
Mann flails and throws Gavin at a critic who doesn’t buy his BS and who is on to his intimidation game.
Hey Gavin – they will throw you to the wolves if it means saving their own skins.

The Problem is Europe.
It’s the Vatican of the Climate religion. Now the foundation of this religion is crumbling.
How do you react when your religion is shown to be bogus?
You just don’t come out and admit you’ve been stupid and duped for years. Nor do you admit you have been defrauding and duping your followers.
No, like in the Middle Ages, extreme means will be used to keep it alive. Don’t expect the media and Europe governments to just give up their religion.
The tone in Copenhagen will be interesting to watch.
This ball is going to be hard to stop.
Excellent commentary by Mr. Ball.

Very clear and coherent response. It is good to have an audio and video confirmation of this revelation that to now has only been in text. I feel that the message will be be understood better when television, radio and the web begin a discussion on this.
This is monday morning in Australia and so far the Australian (front page) and the Courier Mail have this in print, the Sydney Morning Herald to my disappointment failed to print anything.
As a previous commentator said, time is on our side.

Seems like the code also is worse than the emails;
http://www.twawki.wordpress.com

How quickly ten minutes passes when you are enjoying yourself.

Before going too far down the road saying all this politicized science must have broken some law, etc., you should contemplate that scientists and engineers who work for large companies in the private sector are well aware of how directors and supervisors would prefer one sort of data-set, or one type of result, over another, and how there are always helpful employees with good engineering and science credentials who are happy to support this preference (the “party line”, if you will). Time and again you will find little tolerance for information that points to flaws in past technical decisions or current technical policies (you see, there’s always some important person or group of people responsible for those decisions and policies). If climate change played out the same way this sort of thing routinely plays out in large private companies, it wouldn’t be discredited until the evidence against it became impossible to deny — say the world’s average temperature falling 5 degrees over the next 5 years — or the refusal to face reality began to hurt the bottom line badly enough to effect the CEO’s bonus! Really, as soon as scientists, engineers, and so on become players in how large amounts of money are allocated, it’s silly to expect dispassionate analysis on the merits of the technical and scientific issues under discussion. In the private sector, fortunately, people can waste time and effort any way they please without affecting most of the rest of us. When the same sort of self-interested science takes hold in the public sector, however, it’s much less tolerable, for obvious reasons. I’m sure if you dug into NASA emails, and the emails at the top levels of the defense-industrial complex, you would see the same sort of East-Anglia nastiness at play — probably worse, in fact, since those areas of government supported science and engineering have been in operation for many more decades. Always remember, the more expensive an experiment has been to perform, the less likely it is to be declared a failure …

Robert E. Phelan (20:07:52) :
Curiousgeorge (18:49:11) :
The link was posted at Jeff Id’s on the 17th just before 10:00 p.m. There are reports in the media that FOIA tried to post it at RC but was prevented by the alertness of the crew there, who notified CRU… but then didn’t follow through with details… and the authorities were not called in… you don’t suppose….????

You know, it’s probably a huge stretch, but, if RC was the first attempt, and CRU and RC knew about what was going to happen, and they are the people knowing what the contents are and what was “really” going on within the emails and codes, it is not inconceivable that one, or many of them that may indeed have these kinds of investments, would perhaps opt to quickly dump them, “just in case”. This would at least be a step towards protecting their investments. What would be YOUR first reaction if it were you? After all, portions of ClimateGate certainly illustrate functions of money and possible monetary motivations.
Would be interesting if someone were able to do a little research to find out exactly which companies had their stocks suddenly dumped, then, if there is a way, tie them back to any of the “usual” suspects, even Gore, or Soros, etc… After all, Gore, Soros, Fenton, etc.., all have close ties to RealClimate.org and the entire ClimateGate “team”.

FatBigot (20:28:15) :
How quickly ten minutes passes when you are enjoying yourself.
On Thursday when this story first broke hours of reading went by and 2:00 am came pretty quickly.

Robert E. Phelan (22:00:38) :
Woodward & Bernstein didn’t have anything like this.
The really big players will have little choice but to throw CRU under the bus at this point, otherwise it will cascade onto them. It may do that anyway.