This is mind blowing ignorance on the part of Al Gore. Gore in an 11/12/09 interview on NBC’s tonight Show with Conan O’Brien, speaking on geothermal energy, champion of slide show science, can’t even get the temperature of earth’s mantle right, claiming “several million degrees” at “2 kilometers or so down”. Oh, and the “crust of the earth is hot” too.
Temperature of the sun’s corona: 1–2 million kelvin
Temperature of the sun’s photosphere: 6,000 kelvin
Temperature of the Earths mantle, more than “2 kilometers or so down”: between 500 °C to 900 °C (773 to 1173 kelvin)
Watching Gore make a complete scientific idiot of himself on national TV: priceless
Don’t believe me? Watch the video from NBC below:
For a faster presentation, without a pre-viewing commercial, here is the same video on YouTube
Oh…and here is a graph of the vertical temperature profile with drilling depth:
And here is the temperature profile of the Earth’s crust, mantle, and core:
Source: Electropaedia (Mpower UK) page on geothermal energy
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This is the REAL science of global warming as explained by a Nobel Prize winner. No-one can deny the holocaust happening just beneath our feet and we can only have a matter of a few months to save the Earth at this point.
Pebble Bed Nukes-safe walkaway ,safe, and can be scaled down. A Wiki page on the
design: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_bed_reactor
Gore is a failed Divinity Student trying to keep his Gaia cult alive.
mathman (06:21:28) :
George Gamow’s book “One, Two,Three Infinity: Facts and Speculations of Science” takes it’s title from a story about a tribe in Africa. The tribe only has numbers for One, Two, and Three. Any number higher than that is “many”, or for all practical purposes “infinity”. (I.e. a number so big the mind can’t comprehend it.)
Perhaps the Goracle has the same mathematical knowledge?
By the way, Gamow’s book is really delightful and written suitably for a high school student (or a high school nerd anyway). It would be a good Christmas gift.
http://www.amazon.com/One-Two-Three-Infinity-Speculations/dp/0486256642
And no, I don’t have any stock in either George Gamow or Amazon.
Regards,
Steamboat Jack
Smokey: There’s rather a difference between fumbling a number now and then while speaking (and hopefully not making the error again) (and where the point he was making was still valid, with the correct numbers), and repeatedly saying things that are unfounded.
Golly! If we could just tap into it… Wouldn’t that be “green” energy?
carrot eater (07:20:39),
Since we’re making that direct comparison between the two, then Nobel laureate Gore should have no hesitation in debating Viscount Monckton.
Let the world audience decide who is right and who is wrong regarding AGW… unless, of course, there is some sort of reluctance by one or the other to go at it, and let the chips fall where they may.
Bill Illis (06:49:03) :
Thank you Bill Illis.
carrot eater (06:15:47) :
“OK people, you’re laying it on a little thick. He fumbled a number. Assuming somebody points it out to him, see if he repeats the error.”
To be serious for a moment, I disagree with you in the strongest possible terms.
This “error” is not fumbling a number. Al Gore has repeatedly misrepresented this issue. That’s something that IS settled (courts, science inquiries, journalism etc.). Furthermore, Al Gore has a long track record of misrepresenting (not “fumbling”) numbers in Congress, in Presidential debates, etc. Fully documenting these would be like Anthony’s 450 paper reference article (maybe longer).
At this point one has to be extremely naive to think one side of scientists on this issue just interpret the information out there differently. The exposed egregious lack of scientific discipline, often obviously twisted to arrive at convenient conclusions, makes it abundantly clear there exists a political battle being waged against an honest scientific one (and against honest science itself in many cases). That’s not to say we understand what is happening with our climate or why. This site and others like it are valuable however, because there is an honest approach to sorting that out.
Dismissing this as a “number fumble,” ignores facts, established behavior patterns, and context, engaging in a moral relativism that is inappropriate and, if intentional, insulting.
Here you find 14 video’s of a protest against Al Gore protest in Boca Raton; “Gore lies! America dies!”:
http://algorelied.com/?p=3101
No need for 2 million degres, this technology is common in Sweden and works:
http://www.ochsner.com/?gclid=CPvx7tX-kZ4CFVITzAodrTb88Q
Unleasing energy at a few million C would indeed cause catastrophe….
Given that Al Gore is a co-recipient of the 2007 Nobel Prize, this spectacle reminds me once again that the 2007 Nobel for the IPCC’s climate science was NOT awarded in the Physics category…
” Douglas DC (07:09:11) :”
Pebble bed reactors generate waste that isn’t easy to process. A site with two or more new, modern reactors and a reprocessing plant on-site would suit me better. After initial fueling, nothing comes into the plant but natural uranium. Waste after reprocessing is 1% of the amount of waste from a conventional plant and decays in a few hundred years rather than tens of thousands.
A million degrees here, a million degrees there, now we’re talking real money for Al Bore.
We now have an explanation for global warming. We must immediately start using geothermal to relieve the enormous temperatures below the earth’s surface!
This bothers me, I have no formal education past high school yet, and I know the difference. I know that at those tempertures fussion happens…. How do these people gain office, power, money and fame?
Gore has no clue? No [fooling]? What was your first clue?
Does anybody not expect someone who won’t take questions from people who disagree with his agenda to have good grasp of facts?
The man should have his picture in the dictionary next to the word “denier.”
al gore is the worst kind of agw liar…unlike snake oilers or infomerciallers which have to sell a product under the guise of marketing, people like him want to usurp that choice and pass laws to make it so because their doom and gloom product will not sell…its dastardly, wrong and we have to shut it down…gore lied with a movie, lied again in an interview and like most agw proponents of cap and trade lie about the facts…the media that willing twist or spin his lifestyle as an example of frugality and concern for the environment are liars as well…the truth needs to be spoken loudly and clearly because if it isnt, you can bet they will run over you with their false prophesies of the end of the world and never look back…calling out this farce of a man may sound harsh but it is the truth and mr gore, dont you dare tread on me with your pseudo science looking for a way into my pocketbook!!!..there, i feel better
chris y (07:02:53) –
What did Gore’s book (Our Choice) say was the temperature of the earth’s interior? That’s the real test of whether he’s being sloppy or not.
Now if Al Gore had consulted the internet US gov. approved…..
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/gen99/gen99256.htm
….he wouldn’t have made such a fool of himself.
It’s obvious that he used the same hockey stick generator to find the earth core temperature. What did you expect? At least he is consistent in his inconsistencies.
carrot eater (07:20:39) :
Smokey: There’s rather a difference between fumbling a number now and then while speaking (and hopefully not making the error again) (and where the point he was making was still valid, with the correct numbers), and repeatedly saying things that are unfounded.
I assume you mean alarmist things like:
1. The Arctic will be ice free in five years (predicted in 2001).
2. Sea levels will rise by twenty meters.
3. Antarctica is warming.
4. The hockey stick.
5. Positive feedback
Our favorite speaker, Mr. Al Gore apparently will be broadcast over the airwaves tomorrow 18 NOV 09 in at least the CONUS Pacific Northwest, over KUOW which is the local public radio broadcaster in the Seattle-Tacoma-Everett area at 94.9 FM on your radio dial. While flipping through the available stations on the way in to work this AM, I caught the tail end of a recording of a senator (did not catch which one, apparently a left-leaning one) lamenting the delay of climate change legislation in the senate also SNAFUs for the Copenhagen meeting (he was also hoping for a stronger push for both from the US after the holidays). The local broadcaster then came on gushing that Big AL was going to be in the KUOW studios (in person!!!!) tomorrow for an interview.
Here is the link to KUOW, not sure, haven’t done it before, but you may be able to hear the speech by clicking on the “Morning Edition” audio tomorrow….
http://www.kuow.org/index.php
Heck, The Oracle For All Things Warmist may even be broadcast nationally…
MCR
Rereke Whakaaro (01:38:32) :.. Can’t somebody just tell Al Gore that geothermal is not coo..l
Geothermal can be cool (or hot) in certain circumstances. In Iceland for example it is used for heating as much as power generation. Many pools in Rororua are heated by geothermal.
But as I pointed out geothermal can only be used where you have a geothermal field and these are limited. There are also many disadvantages of Geothermal power generation. You can only have them where you have a large preferably high pressure field, there is a high initial cost, low efficiency and plant equipment and fields get degraded over time.
From Wikipedia “Worldwide, geothermal plants have the capacity to generate about 10 gigawatts of electricity as of 2007, and in practice supply 0.3% of global electricity demand.” To reach from 0.3% to even 2 or 3% seems a colossal jump and not the saviour of the world Al is chalking it out to be. (Just drill and run a turbine or tur-bin according to him).
That video didnt show him in such a bad light, all said and done, faux pas not withstanding. It showed the human side of him, laughing about the comparison to Lex Luthor.
Geothermal?
What about those hundreds of thousands of hydrothermal vents all along the mid-ocean ridges, all round the world, each one spewing out as much energy as a nuclear power station, in the form of plumes of water at 10,000 PSI and 400deg C.
No need to drill down, and no problem about depletion, as their percolation systems do all the concentration and heat transportation already.
Just need to lower stirling engine/generators onto these vents, and with an oceanful of water at ~4 deg C just feet away, that temperature gradient is just otherwise going to waste!
Use the electric power to electrolyse water locally, and it should be a simple matter to get the hydrogen up to the surface. Could even use some seabed energy to liquefy it.
(BTW, how about seeing if the tremendous power of these vents can be used to convert CO2 to Methane? Do you suppose Al Gore would be interested in investing in researching this ‘ultimate’ recycling project to solve the global warming and global fuel-shortage at the same time? )