NASA GISS, a division of Vandelay Industries?

Some days I find things by accident. Today, researching for something else online, serendipity paid me a visit.

Fans of the hit sitcom “Seinfeld” may recognize this logo.

Vandelay_climate
Image: Tshirtbordello.com (with some help from the Gimp)

Fans of the show may also recognize this restaurant:

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Photo: Wikipedia entry on Seinfeld - Tom's Restaurant - click for details

Fans of Real Climate might recognize this man:

NASAs Gavin Schmidt
NASA's Dr. Gavin Schmidt in front of the famous Seinfeld restaurant "Monk's" at 2880 Broadway, New York City. Photo: Christy Field, The Guardian

OK by now you are probably thinking, “Anthony has gone off his rocker. Where is this going?” Well, to be honest, I just want to share a little fun.

Have your ever wondered why over at RC, it seems to be like some sort of weird sitcom? There’s a reason for that.

Observe.

The address for the famous Tom’s Restaurant aka “Monks” is, via Google Maps:

Toms_restaurant_Google_maps

The address for the famous Goddard Institute of Space Studies aka “Real Climate” is, via Google Maps:

NASA_GISS_Google_map

Yes, that’s correct. They share the same address. The NASA GISS office is above Monk’s, not that there is anything wrong with that. But, it might explain some things. Although I’ve been following the climate products from NASA GISS for years, I never thought to look at their “about” page, mainly because I’d never have a reason to visit. You see, I’m a persona non grata there. But amazingly, here it is right on the GISS page:

GISS_directions
Click to visit the GISS web page

While I’m no architect, doing a little reading up, I think we can see where Jim and Gavin’s offices are, though I could be wrong. Gavin’s may be on 112th rather than Broadway.

Here’s a Google Earth street level view of 2880 Broadway:

GISS is located right aboive "Monk's - Click for a larger image
GISS is located right above "Monk's - Note - the offices are just guess on my part based on who might get the best windows - Click for a larger image

From the GISS web page above, they give a description of the main entrance to the Goddard Institute of Space Studies at 545 West 112th Street. It is rather plain. Here’s what it looks like:

Click for a larger image
Click for a larger image and details

So now that we’ve established that GISS and RC  is connected to “the show about nothing” you can use some of the best lines from Seinfeld to refute a number of common arguments put up by Gavin and the RC team.

I’ve complied a list of commonly seen issues and phrases used on RC and appropriate rebuttals from Seinfeld characters:

  • The data has been adjusted, why can’t you comprehend it? – “If it’s in the garbage, it’s garbage” – Jerry
  • Send it to my email and I’ll have a look – “When you control the mail, you control information!” – Newman
  • This year is the hottest ever! – “It’s gold Jerry. Gold!” – Bania
  • Ban Ki Moon and the IPCC says so. – “Butros, Butros, Gahli!” – Jerry
  • I’m not going to use McIntyre’s name, he doesn’t deserve the credit. – “That’s not funny, how about ‘your cranium called…it has space for rent!” – Elaine
  • Come back when you understand climate science – “NO SOUP FOR YOU! COME BACK ONE YEAR!” – The Soup Nazi
  • This is why your argument [snip] – “I won’t tolerate infestation!” – Frank Costanza
  • Sea level, ocean acidification, it’s all obvious! – The ocean called, they’re running out of shrimp! – Reilly

  • Check the peer reviewed literature. – “Sometimes the road less traveled is less traveled for a reason.” – Jerry
  • Your interpretation is totally wrong! – “Oh yeah? Well I had sex with your wife!” – George
  • The data hasn’t been updated, do you think all we do around here is sit around and wait for GHCN to update?  – “Significant shrinkage.” – George
  • The tree ring based temperature reconstruction has been reviewed and proven correct time and again. – “Fake! Fake! Fake! Fake! Fake!” – Elaine

  • It is “robust”.  – Yadda, Yadda, Yadda, – Elaine

Also, this coming December 23rd, I plan on sending Gavin a calibrated aluminum pole to help him and Steig measure sea ice thickness.

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Readers may wish to send a card also, listing grievances.

 

“Fake! Fake! Fake! Fake! Fake!” – Elaine
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Alan S. Blue
October 21, 2009 10:30 pm

Life is stranger than fiction.

savethesharks
October 21, 2009 10:36 pm

His smirk gives him away.
Trans: Better and smarter than everyone else.
But wait a minute??
Isn’t he….and his boss…aren’t they….public servants….funded by the taxpayer?
If that is the case….then get to work….and wipe that smirk off your face,
Just because your beloved AGW is not occurring…that does not mean that you can just sit there and smirk.
Get to work, public servant.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA

savethesharks
October 21, 2009 10:37 pm

There is much work to be done…..many scientific problems to be solved….many more significant and legit trees to bark up, besides the AGW tree.
Get to work, public servant.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA

par5
October 21, 2009 10:43 pm

I’ll bet that there’s a Stevenson screen on top of the building…
REPLY: I checked, no. They aren’t interested in measurement at GISS. – Anthony

Erik Anderson
October 21, 2009 10:44 pm

Hmmm. Bill Maher often rants that Global Warming is dire too. I get it now! The last defenders of AGW are all comedians!

October 21, 2009 10:59 pm

Do Hansen and Schmidt both have just one window in their office each? That sounds sensible – although it would be even more sensible if the windows were behind bars. 😉

Espen
October 21, 2009 11:03 pm

Hmm, what if they suddenly admit it was all a practical joke? 😉

October 21, 2009 11:07 pm

These pretz… insights, are making me mirthty…

Jimmy Haigh
October 21, 2009 11:08 pm

Gavin looks well wrapped up against global warming there.

David
October 21, 2009 11:35 pm

Erik Anderson (22:44:27) :
Wait a second, that would imply that Bill Maher is funny. He is really just vulgar and narcissistic, which passes for funny these days.

October 21, 2009 11:44 pm

Are those larches on 112th Street?

Rabe
October 21, 2009 11:45 pm

I guess there is a Stevenson screen. It’s secret. It’s THE ONE thermometer which tells the global mean temp.

gtrip
October 21, 2009 11:48 pm

It does make sense though as the main writer for the show was Larry David and his ex-wife Laurie David is a big time “environmentalist”.

John J
October 21, 2009 11:49 pm

Too funny.
“SERENITY NOW!” – George

gtrip
October 21, 2009 11:51 pm

It also makes sense that I say “Gavin” the same way Jerry says “Newman”!!!!

David Walton
October 22, 2009 12:03 am

Dr. John S. Theon —
My own belief concerning anthropogenic climate change is that the models do not realistically simulate the climate system because there are many very important sub-grid scale processes that the models either replicate poorly or completely omit. Furthermore, some scientists have manipulated the observed data to justify their model results. In doing so, they neither explain what they have modified in the observations, nor explain how they did it. They have resisted making their work transparent so that it can be replicated independently by other scientists. This is clearly contrary to how science should be done. Thus there is no rational justification for using climate model forecasts to determine public policy.
Dr, James Hansen — No soup for you!

gtrip
October 22, 2009 12:06 am

Mann’s hockey stick graph – “Well, I’m just trying to get ahead” -Kramer

J.Hansford
October 22, 2009 12:12 am

AGW…. Yadda, yadda, yadda.

crosspatch
October 22, 2009 12:14 am

You forgot … “Woah!” – Kramer

Bulldust
October 22, 2009 12:17 am

How could you possibly miss George’s line???
“Jerry, just remember, it’s not a lie if you believe it. “

cake
October 22, 2009 12:20 am

Gavin looks like George kinda. For funny impersonations of Seinfield, check out Frank Caliendo’s impersonations.

JEM
October 22, 2009 12:27 am

Actually, the mere fact that the GISS folks are in Manhattan tends to explain a few things.

pkatt
October 22, 2009 12:34 am

Giggle.. I never watched that show:P

Ben
October 22, 2009 12:37 am

You, Gavin, are the doofus!

David Walton
October 22, 2009 12:42 am

NOAA (from their website) —
NOAA understands and predicts changes in the Earth’s environment, from the depths of the oceans to surface of the sun.
Anthony Watts — Serenity now! Serenity now!

MarcH
October 22, 2009 12:56 am

Yamal…that’s some magic loogie.

Bulldust
October 22, 2009 1:22 am

Yo Mods… what gives… you gonna steal my line?
For more material see:
http://www.seinfeldscripts.com/

David Jay
October 22, 2009 1:23 am

J.H. – I think the climate version is: YADa YADa YADa
[sorry, Yamal Joke ;)]

Mike Bryant
October 22, 2009 1:31 am

“It’s not a lie, if you believe.” – George

Cassandra King
October 22, 2009 1:35 am

NASA GISS is simply following the route of all organisations trying to peddle a political belief while remaining at arms length, set up a media outlet where they can push biased and iffy/dodgy information that because of their status and funding they would not be allowed to peddle without accusations of bias and bad practice.
Its a very clever way of doing it isnt it? The two are the same with the same views and information exchange in reality but the two have to be seen as seperate from each other, at least on the surface.
I believe the CIA used front arms length mouthpieces to further its ends, as did the KGB/MI5-6.
Lets just imagine that both groups sit down together all the time to work out a combined strategy by sharing information that other groups are excluded from, lets also imagine that while one group couldnt publish data because it would breach standards, the other group could.
Of course this kind of grubby secret media manipulation and scheming wouldnt go down too well with federal oversight regulators would it? Unless of course those oversight mechanisms were sabotaged first.

Dave Wendt
October 22, 2009 1:40 am

I love the sign next to the restaurant window
HOW
AMERICA
KNOWS
WHAT
AMERICA
NEEDS
Do you suppose that represents the GISS mission statement?
But seriously Anthony, multiple midge posts, “edible pets”, and now Seinfeld, you seem to be developing quite a scampish streak lately. I hope your continual battle with the forces of alarmism isn’t finally driving you to drink.
Although, as cousin George, of that other old sitcom might say, “At least now you have something to thank them for!”

Terry
October 22, 2009 2:05 am

No they’re not Larches on 112th, they are definitely Bristlecones.

October 22, 2009 2:07 am

I wonder if Kramer went upstairs to develop the “BRO.”

AndyS
October 22, 2009 2:11 am

I wish you hadn’t included the picture of Dr. Schmidt as it reinforces my (no doubt unfounded) prejudice against the man. To paraphrase the old Nixon-era caption,
” would you buy a used data set from this man?”

October 22, 2009 2:12 am

It seemed to me that the shop to the left of Tom’s Restaurant was named “Carbon-at” or something like that. Maybe that is where they got the idea, I thought. On closer inspection it seems to be Card-o-Mat http://www.cardomatnyc.com/ . I still wonder if it has been a source of inspiration though, since their website explains they are “Showcasing an unprecedented selection of hand picked cards by its owner, ….”

Tenuc
October 22, 2009 2:28 am

“Jerry, just remember, it’s not a lie if you believe it. ”
There are lies, damn lies and statistics.

Clive
October 22, 2009 2:30 am

I’m not a TV viewer but manged to view a few Seinfeld’s in my time. A grand goof of a show. Great stuff. And finding this connection between Seinfeld and NASA is priceless. Thank you!
My brain is wracking (racking) to come up with some sort of connection here to the line They are real and they are spectacular. (You either know the line or don’t. ☺) … maybe Jim Hansen in drag saying that line. Or him saying that in response to the Hockey Stick or the IPCC climate models. The mind boggles.
Or something about when Kramer was having trouble with his sperm count and started going “commando” … without underwear. Must be a good line there somewhere. ☺☺
It is all very surreal and weird.
Good find. ☺

SOYLENT GREEN
October 22, 2009 2:53 am

“No soup for you!”

October 22, 2009 3:21 am

Clive (02:30:41) : “They are real and they are spectacular.”
INSTANT replay, with video, in my head, Clive!

Alan the Brit
October 22, 2009 3:32 am

Just for fun, read this about global protestations for Sat 24th October organised by 350.com et al. I just love the confession McKibben makes about it all being a religeon!
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ivX49jD-XThrt8StuRPQAYNLzueA
Enjoy.

October 22, 2009 4:12 am

savethesharks (22:36:00),
Servants are people you voluntarily pay for services. Bosses are people who make you pay for services whether you want them or not.

Curiousgeorge
October 22, 2009 4:39 am

Anthony, this is great stuff! You should make sure that Glen Beck or O’Reilly at Foxnews gets a heads up on this. It would make a great segment on the show. 😈

Richard111
October 22, 2009 4:57 am

Hmmm… In the UK this is known as stirring. 🙂
There may be consequenses.

Tom in Florida
October 22, 2009 5:12 am

I wonder if Lloyd Braun works there.

Curiousgeorge
October 22, 2009 5:14 am

Also worth noting the proximity to that liberal bastion, Colombia University (4 blocks away). Hmmmm. Just sayin. 😉

Bulldust
October 22, 2009 5:28 am

Tenuc (02:28:22) :
There are lies, damn lies and statistics.
I think, speaking from econometrics experience, modeling should be added to the end of that list.

BROOSE
October 22, 2009 5:29 am

Seinfeld show ended in 1998. It was still hot up to then but the comedy/hockey stick had to end somewhere. Unless of course if Seinfeld/AGW is real.

Editor
October 22, 2009 5:31 am

I have another few quotes sets here..
Sea levels are rising quickly… “He’s not spongeworthy” – Elaine
Arctic sea ice will disappear entirely in the summer, if CO2 continues to increase, with
devastating effects on wildlife and indigenous people. – “Why don’t we just switch apartments?”, “Or I could sleep in the park.” – Kramer and Jerry, in “The Chicken Roaster”
If we cannot stop the building of more coal-fired power plants, those coal trains will be death trains – no less gruesome than if they were boxcars headed to crematoria, “You are the only one who understands me.” “You suffer for your soup.” – The Soup Nazi and Kramer, in “The Soup Nazi”

MJC
October 22, 2009 5:34 am

FINALLY! My stupidity has paid off.
George

Indiana Bones
October 22, 2009 5:43 am

“Ten years of misery. I’m just grateful for residuals.” Jerry
On a lighter note:
“Our Choice will pick up where An Inconvenient Truth left off and provide a blueprint for solving the global climate crisis and drawing on Mr. Gore’s 40 years of experience as a student, policymaker, author, filmmaker, entrepreneur, and activist.”
LA Weekly

Editor
October 22, 2009 5:47 am

I wonder if the restaurant serves corn dogs. Corned dog for St. Patty’s Day, of course.

Mark
October 22, 2009 5:49 am

As to the GISS numbers – They’re real and they’re spectacular!

DaveE
October 22, 2009 5:53 am

Rabe (23:45:48) :

I guess there is a Stevenson screen. It’s secret. It’s THE ONE thermometer which tells the global mean temp.

Nope. That’s IN the office. 😉
DaveE.

AEGeneral
October 22, 2009 5:54 am

“He said the world was warming, but there was no warming! There was nothing!
“I cannot forget him. He haunts me. He is a very bad man. He is a very very bad man.”
–Babu

Andrew
October 22, 2009 5:54 am

When AGW is finally discarded as effective propaganda, Gavin can open a Kenny Rogers Roasters. 😉
Newmann on Broccoli (or treemometers that don’t pass pre-screening): “Vile Weed!”
Andrew

Frank K.
October 22, 2009 5:58 am

On a serious note, what data products does GISS provide that are of any value, or are redundant within NASA and/or NOAA? GISTEMP is crap, as is Model E. What are they producing, besides research papers and expensive models runs for IPCC AR 5? They can sure spend our money on expensive travel, conferences, redundant research projects, and, of course, brand new computing clusters at GSFC for their exclusive use:
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/climate_computing.html
And, surely, downtown NYC must be one of the most expensive places to run a public-funded research facility.
Just remember this when congress starts imposing new taxes to attempt to pay for the 1.4 trillion dollars in debt that has been racked up this year in the name of stimulus.

Carl
October 22, 2009 6:12 am

I wonder if Gavin or James enters a room the same way Kramer does.

DoctorJJ
October 22, 2009 6:27 am

I can hear Hansen now when he proposed they change it from Global Warming to Climate Change, “Yeah that’s one I made up…sort of a catch-all”.
BTW, that’s Kramer from the Frogger episode when he came up with “Son of Dad” as a potential name for the Lopper.

Lichanos
October 22, 2009 6:27 am

Seinfeld is such a New York show – I’ve often wondered why the rest of the nation found it funny. And BTW, Gavin looks a bit like the “real Kramer,” a fellow from the neighborhood who supposedly inspired the sitcom character, and who now gives local tours.
I’ve been in the GISS building several times, never the diner. Only the outside was used on the show – the interior is a set in Burbank. As for their sharing an address, this is one of the fun things about doing digital map work (GIS) in NYC. Some buildings have many addresses, even taking up an entire block. On field visits, finding the correct door can sometimes be an adventure.
You will be happy to know that, as far as I could tell, the interior of GISS is quite spartan. No gold-plated toilet fixtures or lavish liquor cabinets. Just ratty academic style furnishings.

Gary
October 22, 2009 6:28 am

“Why was my comment at RC deleted?” — “No soup for you!”

Miles
October 22, 2009 6:32 am

RC on climate denalists
Kramer, he’s just a dentist.”
“Yeah, and you’re an anti-dentite.”
– Jerry and Kramer, in “The Yada Yada”

jeroen
October 22, 2009 6:42 am

My gues is that within a weak somebody might trow an egg against there window.

Alan the Brit
October 22, 2009 6:49 am

Doh! I just realised the problem with GISS temperature records. That restaurant in on the ground floor. Restaurants produce lots of heat & hot air when cooking. Heat rises, (at least it used to). Therefore Hansen’s temps are bound to be higher than everyone elses on the top floor, no?

MartinGAtkins
October 22, 2009 6:53 am

Bulldust (00:17:56) :
How could you possibly miss George’s line???
“Jerry, just remember, it’s not a lie if you believe it.“
I’ve been busy in another thread but that is a classic
.

Richard Patton
October 22, 2009 6:56 am

Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) I never saw the show so the humor escapes me.

October 22, 2009 7:17 am

Wow, so this *is* the place of the Suzanne Vega’s famous song.

Bernal
October 22, 2009 7:18 am

The hottest year in the last millll-yyyon years. “Oh the humanity”-Newman

October 22, 2009 7:36 am

Have you seen the LATIN phrase on the door?:
TOTUS CAUSA RELINQUO VOS QUISNAM PENETRO IN
Which for me means something like ” The cause of everything leave behind you who dig in”
Some help please

Henry chance
October 22, 2009 7:45 am

Thanks Anthony
Life is better than a sitcom

Mike from Canmore
October 22, 2009 7:46 am

They should have an opposite year. i.e. be skeptics for a year. A whole new world would open up to them.

Michael
October 22, 2009 7:56 am

China is much more advanced civilization than America.
Chinese Scientists Predict Imminent Global Cooling
http://www.co2science.org/articles/V10/N3/C1.php

October 22, 2009 7:57 am

The latin phrase is in the photo of the main entrance to the Goddard Institute .
Another translation could be: The cause of everything I leave it for you to search

Steve S.
October 22, 2009 7:58 am

That Gavin smirk results from his extreme censoring, altering and blocking of comments at his RC blog.
No where can one find a more egregious blog operation than Gavin’s. Nothing is out of line for him.
That’s why RC threads NEVER have the heated debates one would expect. It’s simply not allowed.
Additionally there’s a couple of regulars, Mark and Ray, who get free reign to belittle the skeptics with a daily barrage of ultra condescending disparagement. Which Gavin then truncates responses to.
It’s his way of keeping the discussion robust.

October 22, 2009 7:58 am

Ten trees are way more than enough! “These pretzels are making me thirsty.” -Cosmo Kramer

Henry chance
October 22, 2009 8:07 am

Frank K. (05:58:00) :
On a serious note, what data products does GISS provide that are of any value, or are redundant within NASA and/or NOAA? GISTEMP is crap, as is Model E. What are they producing, besides research papers and expensive models runs for IPCC AR 5? They can sure spend our money on expensive travel, conferences, redundant research projects, and, of course, brand new computing clusters at GSFC for their exclusive use
And, surely, downtown NYC must be one of the most expensive places to run a public-funded research facility”
… ihave had it all. My office building in a park near a golf course required snow removal and landscape services. I could park near my door and I had a fireplace.
I moved to an office tower with a Petroleum club on top, restaurant and attached garage for my car. It also had advantages.
NYC rent is 60 dollars a sq ft

Michael
October 22, 2009 8:10 am

OK, I got to RC. Here’s how it went down;
136.Is it not politically correct to prerequisite the words “Climate Change” with the words “Man-Made Climate Change”?
Comment by Michael — 22 October 2009 @ 12:04 AM
138.#136 Michael,
Stop being silly! You sound like of those people whose opinions on physical facts are driven by their politics and cannot imagine any one whose politics might be modified by their evaluation of scientific facts. Sad!
Comment by Lloyd Flack — 22 October 2009 @ 1:00 AM
140.#138
However, Flack, your opinions aren’t apparently based on scientific facts only leaving one option left to choose.
Comment by Mark — 22 October 2009 @ 3:06 AM
I have a feeling that site is being overwhelmed with comments from the Non-Man-Made Climate Change believers.

October 22, 2009 8:42 am

Re: Luboš Motl (07:17:44)
Suzanne Vega: “Oh this rain, it will continue.”

Reed Coray
October 22, 2009 8:42 am

Yes, Dr. Schmidt, but are you master of your domain?

Bob Shapiro
October 22, 2009 8:57 am

Coincidental addresses?
Look at the piece from 29 sec to 109 sec of this JFK trailer:

Don S.
October 22, 2009 9:06 am

@Adolpho. With a significant amount of brain pain and the use of several translation web sites, I venture (latin to english): ” Abandon all causes, you who enter. ” Never could conjugate latin verbs. I hope the translation is close to this version, because of the causes carried out daily by those who enter through this portal. Serendipity indeed.

October 22, 2009 9:15 am

Don S. (09:06:22) : That is a good translation!. It is almost an exhortation if Anthony dares to enter into the building 🙂
A more colloquial translation could be:
“Just forget it, here you are suppose to believe in my hockey stick”

October 22, 2009 9:21 am

This is really a case for a Dan Brown’s new novel!. The Illuminati behind the global warming scam!, coal trains, astrophysicists against an enernal universe, etc.etc. Wow, what a thriller!

Reed Coray
October 22, 2009 9:48 am

George Constanza — “Global Warming, Over Population, Evil Mankind, Rising Oceans, … what’s the difference, they’re all pipes.”

October 22, 2009 10:04 am

“Gold Anthony, GOLD!”
– _Jim
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Editor
October 22, 2009 10:09 am

Adolfo Giurfa (07:36:25) :

Have you seen the LATIN phrase on the door?:
TOTUS CAUSA RELINQUO VOS QUISNAM PENETRO IN
Which for me means something like “The cause of everything leave behind you who dig in”

Oh, my guess was “Abandon hope all ye who enter here,” the supposed inscription at the entrance to Hell.
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/abandon-hope-all-ye-who-enter-here.html
Hey, the devil’s work goes on in there!
REPLY: No, devils work was not the message. It reads: “Abandon all causes, you who enter here” and was placed on the Google street photo with some help from the Gimp. I wondered how long it would be before anyone noticed and translated. Just a little fun satire. I was thinking of Jim Hansen’s tendency to protest and get arrested. – Anthony

James Allison
October 22, 2009 10:33 am

Note for Gavin over at RC. Please note that AGW skeptics are NOT “climate change deniers” as your devotees on your blog keep telling each other. Actually quite the opposite.

cogito
October 22, 2009 10:58 am

“AGW is best thought of as a great global swindle based on inconvienient truths wherein real climate data have failed their climate audit. This leads to climate resistance by climate realists, who demand debate about junk science that is not evil, just wrong and fails to address the question, watts up with that?”
http://ecomythsmith.blogspot.com/2009/10/climatism.html

DoctorJJ
October 22, 2009 11:01 am

Kramer: It’s an adjustment for them.
Jerry: How is it an adjustment?
Kramer: They just adjust it.
Jerry: Adjust it off what?
Kramer: Jerry, all these big data sets, they adjust everything.
Jerry: You don’t even know what an adjustment is.
Kramer: Do you?
Jerry: No. I Don’t.
Kramer: But they do. And they’re the ones adjusting it.
Jerry: I wish I could have the last 20 seconds of my life back.

Paddy
October 22, 2009 11:12 am

Curiousgeorge and Anthony: Don’t bother with O’Reilly at Fox News. He is and AGW koolaid addict. Glenn Beck and most of the Fox News anchors are either anti-AGW or open minded on the subject.

P Walker
October 22, 2009 11:15 am

Geoff from Ourimbah (02:07:06) – More likely the Mannzier .

R Shearer
October 22, 2009 11:18 am

Was that an MMTS shelter on the roof right next to the grill vent from the diner?

Ray
October 22, 2009 11:21 am

I wouldn’t be surprised that Gavin drives John Voight’s car, a ’89 LeBaron? But does he know it was Jon Voight? – “Get out of the car!” – George
In any case, I’m sure Gavin must have the perfect parking spot.

Ray
October 22, 2009 11:28 am

He sure does not have the “Kavorka”.

October 22, 2009 11:31 am

W. Earl Allen: “the rain will continue.”
This is actually another misinformation about the “real climate”. If you watch this video, you can see that while a woman is shaking her umbrella, the skies are completely sunny and the weather is just nice! 🙂

October 22, 2009 11:34 am

interesting that Seinfeld was originally pitched as a “show about nothing”

Lichanos
October 22, 2009 11:49 am

@ Ric Werme (10:09:42) :
Oh, my guess was “Abandon hope all ye who enter here,” the supposed inscription at the entrance to Hell.
The Divine Comedy was written in Italian. Your famous phrase is:
Lasciate ogni speranza, voi ch’entrate.

Evan Jones
Editor
October 22, 2009 11:53 am

The shot of Gavin Schmidt: He is sitting on a bench in the “island” in the middle of Broadway. Both windows are on Broadway. Photo faces east (uptown is to the left).

Dave Wendt
October 22, 2009 12:06 pm

Indiana Bones (05:43:01)
“Our Choice will pick up where An Inconvenient Truth left off and provide a blueprint for solving the global climate crisis and drawing on Mr. Gore’s 40 years of experience as a student, policymaker, author, filmmaker, entrepreneur, and activist.”
LA Weekly
Al started at a Divinity School, but quit when he found out they were only going to teach him about God, not how to become God. He’s been pursuing a self- directed course of study on his own ever since.

Neil Crafter
October 22, 2009 12:11 pm

one of my (many) favourite Seinfeld lines comes from George, who after yelling fire and stampeding over women and old people to get out of a building is later asked by a fireman “How do you live with yourself?” – George’s reply, “It’s not easy.”

nvw
October 22, 2009 12:12 pm

Did you notice this exchange over at RC where Gavin says he reads over at WUWT?
Come on Gav – give us something more to chuckle about.
[Response: Good article. Amusingly, I note that WUWT highlights the same piece without a hint of irony or self-awareness. -gavin]
Comment by David B. Benson — 21 October 2009 @ 5:30 PM
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> when interviewed on TV alongside a denialist, trying to get
> not one, but two denialists onto the program
Then you’ll have one scientist against a pair. These people aren’t arguing about science. They’re arguing _against_ science. On that they agree.
Comment by Hank Roberts — 21 October 2009 @ 5:42 PM
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[Response: Good article. Amusingly, I note that WUWT highlights the same piece without a hint of irony or self-awareness. -gavin]
So, Gavin – you a regular over there at WUWT? How come you never comment?
[Response: One should keep ones friends close… -gavin]

October 22, 2009 12:13 pm

A more appropriate translation:
“Abandon hope science, all ye who enter here.”

October 22, 2009 12:47 pm

I think this joke will probably cost GISS to move out from that location, because if they don’t fans won’t let them work in their models.

geo
October 22, 2009 1:10 pm

George Costanza wandering into their offices while looking for the men’s room and doing what George Costanza usually did to their files. . . . is as good an explanation for “the Hockey Stick” as any I have yet heard.

Ray
October 22, 2009 1:19 pm

Here is a revised version about the Shrinking factor:
Gavin: Well I just got back from the IPCC meeting. And the weather was cold…
Jim: Oh… You mean… shrinkage.
Gavin: Yes. Significant shrinkage!
Jim: So you feel you were short changed.
Gavin: Yes! I mean, if Al thinks that’s me he’s under a complete
misapprehension. That was not me, Jim. That was not me.
Jim: Well, so what’s the difference?
Gavin: What if He discusses it with Barack?
Jim: Oh, he’s not gonna tell Barack.
Gavin: How do you know?
Jim: Politicians aren’t like us.
Gavin: They’re worse! They’re much worse than us, they talk about
everything! Couldn’t you at least tell him about the shrinkage factor?
Jim: No, I’m not gonna tell him about your shrinkage. Besides, I think
politicians know about shrinkage.
Gavin: How do politicians know about shrinkage? (They see Lisa walking down
the hall) Lisa! Get! (She enters) Do politicians know about shrinkage?
Lisa (P. Jackson): What do you mean, like laundry?
Gavin: No.
Jim: Like when a AGW scientist realize his errors… afterwards… their brains…
Lisa: It shrinks?
Jim: Like a frightened turtle!
Lisa: Why does it shrink?
Gavin: It just does.
Lisa: I don’t know how you guys walk around with those things.

Mikey
October 22, 2009 1:40 pm

gtrip (23:48:42) :
It does make sense though as the main writer for the show was Larry David and his ex-wife Laurie David is a big time “environmentalist”.
*
In fact… the character of George Costanza is based on Larry David, and Laurie David was a producer on An Inconvenient Truth.

Mike B.
October 22, 2009 2:09 pm

RC: AGW is causing an increase in damaging Cat 4 and 5 hurricanes
George: The sea was angry that day, my friends!

Benjamin
October 22, 2009 2:16 pm

Hilarious! But if I may change one rebuttal….
Come back when you understand climate science – “NO SOUP FOR YOU! COME BACK ONE YEAR!” – The Soup Nazi
REPLY: Better, I agree. I’ll change it. -Anthony

dearieme
October 22, 2009 3:01 pm

You do realise that Dr Gavin Smirk made all these jokes before you guys thought of them?

April E. Coggins
October 22, 2009 3:41 pm

I am curious to know who owns the building.
Did Hansen’s brush with Hollywood influence him to try his hand as a playwright?
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/hansen_12/

Bulldust
October 22, 2009 4:33 pm

Good as Seinfeld was, the Brit series Yes Minister might be more instructional when thinking about the workings of government, e.g.:

It is uncanny in its cynical accuracy, and Maggie Thatcher who was PM in England at the time stated it was her favourite show.
http://www.yes-minister.com/

Michael Jankowski
October 22, 2009 5:42 pm

I attented that “liberal bastion” of Columbia U? I took an atmospheric science course in that very building. Lord knows what future scientists and possibly team members I crossed paths with.
Tom’s Restaurant is pretty weak fare of “American” food. Service was very poor, and not much English was spoken by the staff (Greek?). They proudly advertised Vega’s song being about them despite it not exactly being complimentary about the service.
“…I am waiting
At the counter
For the man
To pour the coffee
And he fills it
Only halfway
And before
I even argue
He is looking
Out the window
At somebody
Coming in…”

Michael Jankowski
October 22, 2009 5:43 pm

That should start, “I attended that ‘liberal bastion’ of Columbia U. Not sure what was on my mind to type THAT badly. My alma mater takes another hit.

Evan Jones
Editor
October 22, 2009 6:07 pm

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savethesharks
October 22, 2009 7:30 pm

M. Simon (04:12:05) :
savethesharks (22:36:00),
“Servants are people you voluntarily pay for services. Bosses are people who make you pay for services whether you want them or not.”
Yeah. But either way….in the good US of A….if you are funded by the taxpayer (as little scarf-wrapped Gavin and his boss, Dr. Evil, are)….then either way….
…they are still public servants.
Perhaps they choose the government dole because they instinctively know…in the REAL world (the world of Darwin)…they would be ripped to shreds.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA

Mr Lynn
October 22, 2009 8:03 pm

REPLY: No, devils work was not the message. It reads: “Abandon all causes, you who enter here” and was placed on the Google street photo with some help from the Gimp. I wondered how long it would be before anyone noticed and translated. Just a little fun satire. I was thinking of Jim Hansen’s tendency to protest and get arrested. – Anthony

It should have been, “Abandon all causes save CO2, you who enter here.”
/Mr Lynn

Jimmy Haigh
October 24, 2009 9:33 am

nvw (12:12:53) :
“Did you notice this exchange over at RC where Gavin says he reads over at WUWT?
Come on Gav – give us something more to chuckle about. ”
Gavin. Go on – watch the I-Squared debate again. Give yourself something more to chuckle about.

John M
October 30, 2009 6:37 am

OK, I know I’m late on this, but the thought just struck me last night.
We all know this guy, right?
http://www.virginia.edu/insideuva/2002/06/images/Mann,Michael.jpg
Does their seem to be a resemblance to this guy?
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xk5bd_seinfeld-apartment-5e_fun
Just askin’

Mark C.
November 5, 2009 1:55 pm

Wow. If all the sleuthing on this website is so deep I think we know to how bottomless the thought must be that goes into the comments. The NASA-GISS/Seinfeld connection has been stated on the About GISS webpage for the last 10 years and there have been NY tour stops there almost as long. So, do you know why there are no signs? Do you know what other famous person occupied this building in the past? Sleuth out those facts and keep yourself busy. (Btw, the Seinfeld response quotes were clever though 🙂

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