Obama Poised to Cede US Sovereignty in Copenhagen, Claims British Lord Monckton

Reposted from comments on the new Urban Future thread here

Originally from the blog Fightin’ Words

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Above: Obama’s last visit to Copenhagen didn’t work out so well for the USA.

The Minnesota Free Market Institute hosted an event at Bethel University in St. Paul on Wednesday evening. Keynote speaker Lord Christopher Monckton, former science adviser to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, gave a scathing and lengthy presentation, complete with detailed charts, graphs, facts, and figures which culminated in the utter decimation of both the pop culture concept of global warming and the credible threat of any significant anthropomorphic climate change.

A detailed summary of Monckton’s presentation will be available here once compiled. However, a segment of his remarks justify immediate publication. If credible, the concern Monckton speaks to may well prove the single most important issue facing the American nation, bigger than health care, bigger than cap and trade, and worth every citizen’s focused attention.

Here were Monckton’s closing remarks, as dictated from my audio recording:

At [the 2009 United Nations Climate Change Conference in] Copenhagen, this December, weeks away, a treaty will be signed. Your president will sign it. Most of the third world countries will sign it, because they think they’re going to get money out of it. Most of the left-wing regime from the European Union will rubber stamp it. Virtually nobody won’t sign it.

I read that treaty. And what it says is this, that a world government is going to be created. The word “government” actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new entity. The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the countries of the West to third world countries, in satisfication of what is called, coyly, “climate debt” – because we’ve been burning CO2 and they haven’t. We’ve been screwing up the climate and they haven’t. And the third purpose of this new entity, this government, is enforcement.

How many of you think that the word “election” or “democracy” or “vote” or “ballot” occurs anywhere in the 200 pages of that treaty? Quite right, it doesn’t appear once. So, at last, the communists who piled out of the Berlin Wall and into the environmental movement, who took over Greenpeace so that my friends who funded it left within a year, because [the communists] captured it – Now the apotheosis as at hand. They are about to impose a communist world government on the world. You have a president who has very strong sympathies with that point of view. He’s going to sign it. He’ll sign anything. He’s a Nobel Peace Prize [winner]; of course he’ll sign it.

[laughter]

And the trouble is this; if that treaty is signed, if your Constitution says that it takes precedence over your Constitution (sic), and you can’t resign from that treaty unless you get agreement from all the other state parties – And because you’ll be the biggest paying country, they’re not going to let you out of it.

So, thank you, America. You were the beacon of freedom to the world. It is a privilege merely to stand on this soil of freedom while it is still free. But, in the next few weeks, unless you stop it, your president will sign your freedom, your democracy, and your humanity away forever. And neither you nor any subsequent government you may elect will have any power whatsoever to take it back. That is how serious it is. I’ve read the treaty. I’ve seen this stuff about [world] government and climate debt and enforcement. They are going to do this to you whether you like it or not.

But I think it is here, here in your great nation, which I so love and I so admire – it is here that perhaps, at this eleventh hour, at the fifty-ninth minute and fifty-ninth second, you will rise up and you will stop your president from signing that dreadful treaty, that purposeless treaty. For there is no problem with climate and, even if there were, an economic treaty does nothing to [help] it.

So I end by saying to you the words that Winston Churchill addressed to your president in the darkest hour before the dawn of freedom in the Second World War. He quoted from your great poet Longfellow:

Sail on, O Ship of State!

Sail on, O Union, strong and great!

Humanity with all its fears,

With all the hopes of future years,

Is hanging breathless on thy fate!

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Lord Monckton giving a presentation - photo by Derek Warnecke

Lord Monckton received a standing ovation and took a series of questions from members of the audience. Among those questions were these relevent to the forthcoming Copenhagen treaty:

Question: The current administration and the Democratic majority in Congress has shown little regard for the will of the people. They’re trying to pass a serious government agenda, and serious taxation and burdens on future generations. And there seems to be little to stop them. How do you propose we stop Obama from doing this, because I see no way to stop him from signing anything in Copenhagen. I believe that’s his agenda and he’ll do it.

I don’t minimize the difficulty. But on this subject – I don’t really do politics, because it’s not right. In the end, your politics is for you. The correct procedure is for you to get onto your representatives, both in the US Senate where the bill has yet to go through (you can try and stop that) and in [the House], and get them to demand their right of audience (which they all have) with the president and tell him about this treaty. There are many very powerful people in this room, wealthy people, influential people. Get onto the media, tell them about this treaty. If they go to www.wattsupwiththat.com, they will find (if they look carefully enough) a copy of that treaty, because I arranged for it to be posted there not so long ago. Let them read it, and let the press tell the people that their democracy is about to be taken away for no good purpose, at least [with] no scientific basis [in reference to climate change]. Tell the press to say this. Tell the press to say that, even if there is a problem [with climate change], you don’t want your democracy taken away. It really is as simple as that.

[Update: this section on a question from an attendee to the presentation has been removed from this WUWT article because even though Monckton clearly refuted it, it is turning into a debate over presidential eligibility that I don’t want at WUWT. If you want to see it and discuss it. Do it at the original blog entry Fightin’ Words – Anthony]

Regardless of whether global warming is taking place or caused to any degree by human activity, we do not want a global government empowered to tax Americans without elected representation or anything analogous to constitutional protections. The Founding Fathers would roll over in their graves if they knew their progeny allowed a foreign power such authority, effectively undoing their every effort in an act of Anti-American Revolution. If that is our imminent course, we need to put all else on hold and focus on stopping it. If American sovereignty is ceded, all other debate is irrelevant.

Edited to add @ 8:31 am:

Skimming through the treaty, I came across verification of Monckton’s assessment of the new entity’s purpose:

38. The scheme for the new institutional arrangement under the Convention will be based on three basic pillars: government; facilitative mechanism; and financial mechanism, and the basic organization of which will include the following:

World Government (heading added)

a) The government will be ruled by the COP with the support of a new subsidiary body on adaptation, and of an Executive Board responsible for the management of the new funds and the related facilitative processes and bodies. The current Convention secretariat will operate as such, as appropriate.

To Redistribute Wealth (heading added)

b) The Convention’s financial mechanism will include a multilateral climate change fund including five windows: (a) an Adaptation window, (b) a Compensation window, to address loss and damage from climate change impacts [read: the “climate debt” Monckton refers to], including insurance, rehabilitation and compensatory components, © a Technology window; (d) a Mitigation window; and (e) a REDD window, to support a multi-phases process for positive forest incentives relating to REDD actions.

With Enforcement Authority (heading added)

c) The Convention’s facilitative mechanism will include: (a) work programmes for adaptation and mitigation; (b) a long-term REDD process; © a short-term technology action plan; (d) an expert group on adaptation established by the subsidiary body on adaptation, and expert groups on mitigation, technologies and on monitoring, reporting and verification; and (e) an international registry for the monitoring, reporting and verification of compliance of emission reduction commitments, and the transfer of technical and financial resources from developed countries to developing countries. The secretariat will provide technical and administrative support, including a new centre for information exchange [read; enforcement].

UPDATE: Thanks to WUWT reader “Michael” who post the URL on another unrelated thread, we now have video of Lord Monckton’s presentation:


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Back2Bat
October 18, 2009 3:37 am

“What can Americans do …”
Plenty. Once AGW is discredited then other attempts at tyranny will start to crumble. Questions will be raised about the government school system, the mass media, etc.
We are not Britain.

CyNical
October 18, 2009 6:30 am

When someone says, “Stick to the science,” I think of all the research grants NOT given because the abstract fails to support the “official” global warming cause. Science – freedom of thought – the very core of all that has made western civilization uniquely great, has been compromised. And all of us with it.

Newspeaker
October 18, 2009 7:19 am

The Deliberate Dumbing Down Of America by Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/
Ps. “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” — Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Vincent
October 18, 2009 7:59 am

Back2bat:
“We are not Britain.”
I pray that you are right.

AbuBakerSmith
October 18, 2009 8:54 am

Considering the so called Constitutional Amendment establishing the Federal Reserve was NEVER ratified yet still put in force establishing the Privately Owned Corporation called Te Federal Reserve allowing them the powers (specifically forbidden in the Constitution) to print money and TAX the American People, there’s ample reason to believe those who think this treaty won’t be enFORCED are flat out bumbling idiots who are dangerously ignorant naive and outright stupid.

A Brit
October 18, 2009 9:25 am

Back2bat: “We are not Britain”
Yeh, Britain. The Mother of Parliaments. The nation that stood (for a while alone) against Nazism. And we’ve gone down.
To fight this, you need to understand how it happens. It’s a process that runs over decades. The first european treaty ( the Coal and Steel Community ) was signed in 1951. The British pople was suckered in 1973 We were told it was just a free trade agreement – the Common Market. But we were being lied to. The politicians know that it was a project for political union. So, that’s 50 years from the first treaty – plus the conspiratorial planning that had happened in advance.
Wolfwalker “ it’s not signed yet, and might not be signed”. In the long term doesn’t matter to them. They’ll get something – some concession. – some foothold. Then they’ll be back for more, later. On a different issue if they have to (banking, say). Stop Obama from signing, and then vote him out at the end of his term. Well done! But they’ll wait for Obama mk.II. See the timescales in paragraph above. These people are like the Borg – they just coming. So unless the American people (not just a few geeks) wise up, you’ll loose you country. 2020 – 2030 – whenever, you’ll loose.

A Brit
October 18, 2009 9:26 am

To fight this, you need to understand how it happens. It’s a process that runs over decades. The first european treaty ( the Coal and Steel Community ) was signed in 1951. The British pople was suckered in 1973 We were told it was just a free trade agreement – the Common Market. But we were being lied to. The politicians know that it was a project for political union. So, that’s 50 years from the first treaty – plus the conspiratorial planning that had happened in advance.
Wolfwalker “ it’s not signed yet, and might not be signed”. In the long term doesn’t matter to them. They’ll get something – some concession. – some foothold. Then they’ll be back for more, later. On a different issue if they have to (banking, say). Stop Obama from signing, and then vote him out at the end of his term. Well done! But they’ll wait for Obama mk.II. See the timescales in paragraph above. These people are like the Borg – they just coming. So unless the American people (not just a few geeks) wise up, you’ll loose you country. 2020 – 2030 – whenever, you’ll loose.

Doomcreeper
October 18, 2009 1:20 pm

Forgive me, if I’m wrong but, In 2005 didn’t George W Bush sign the North America Union treaty didn’t he, and with that erases our borders with Canada and Mexico ?

gb
October 18, 2009 1:40 pm

As a matter of American Law, Lord Monckton is partly right. A ratified treaty becomes law in the US upon ratification. If 40 senators block that ratification it does not. In addition, even if the US has signed a treaty, the Senate may vote to withdraw from it.
This is not to downplay the problem but to put the exact law in perspective.

David Jones
October 18, 2009 4:07 pm

Mac (02:18:14) :
Monckton is a political embarrassment. Stick to the science and not the rantings of a Thatcherite clown.
Of course, if you can’t debate the proposition just slag off the messenger!!

Doomcreeper
October 18, 2009 6:33 pm

Back2Bat:
you need to search and find the senate bill S 1959 which is called Thought Crime Prevention Bill or Endgame as Bush called it, it states that the President can effect Martial Law WITHOUT consesus from Congress. The U.S. military is at his Power this is the “Change” he spoke of. Think about it.

Graeme Rodaughan
October 18, 2009 10:01 pm

Might I say this “The dreams of Psychopaths are other peoples nightmares”.
The primary characteristics of Psychopathy are as follows.
1. Self obsession.
2. An inability to empathise with others.
3. Indifference to consequences of actions on others.
4. An inflated sense of entitlement.
5. Habitual Deception
There is no known cure, and Psychopaths view themselves as healthy and the rest of us as weak, valuable only if useful and completely disposable.
The point of Liberty is to protect the rest of us from the predators.

Brendan H
October 19, 2009 12:48 am

Charles: “Brendan H (15:42:06)
That wasn’t me who approved and I’m not going to bother going back and finding it.”
Let me help. The post I referred to was timed at: (16:19:14), dated 16/10/09.
Reply: Don’t care. Subject closed. ~ ctm

October 19, 2009 6:02 am

[b]Doomcreeper[/b]
[i]Back2Bat:
you need to search and find the senate bill S 1959 which is called Thought Crime Prevention Bill or Endgame as Bush called it, it states that the President can effect Martial Law WITHOUT consesus from Congress. The U.S. military is at his Power this is the “Change” he spoke of. Think about it.[/i]
This bill never made it out of committee (Aug, 2007). And since it was introduced in the 110th Congress and not passed, it was cleared from the books at the beginning of the 111th Congress. It is currently not law in the US.

October 19, 2009 6:32 am

The conference in Copenhagen is likely to be a very important one historically. This might well be our last chance to turn things around.
http://watching-history.blogspot.com/2009/10/copenhagen.html

Back2Bat
October 19, 2009 7:38 am

I am encouraged by the group “Oath Keepers” consisting of policemen and servicemen who swore an oath to defend The Constitution. Look em up.
So yes, we are not Britain. Praise the Lord.

Common Sense
October 19, 2009 8:44 am

Obama is a puppet of the Rockefeller’s and the European elites. The man was handpicked to be the next President of the United States and groomed for the job by Zgniew, Mr. Kissinger and the Rockefeller scum bags.
Council of Foreign Relations
Tri-lateral Commission
Bilderberg Group
Club of Rome
Royal Institute of Foreign Affairs
etc etc etc
Political wings of the central bankers which they have used for the past 100 years to manipulate world affairs and exploit developing nations.
Money = Power and if you folks haven’t been paying attention, the central bankers have no shortage of money…

Doomcreeper
October 19, 2009 12:35 pm

Holskald:
yes, the bill was passed on Oct 23,2007 came into effect on oct 24th.
with a 404 vote margin by Dems and Rep, like I said google it and find on http://www.rougegovenment.com. the sponsor of the bill which falls under the patriot act was Susan Collins (R) Maine

October 19, 2009 12:42 pm

Mac (02:18:14) :
“Monckton is a political embarrassment.”
Actually, he’s not. But this guy certainly is.

ThomasL
October 19, 2009 5:05 pm

OT, of course. I’m not really certain why the very notion of questioning Obama’s citizenship status offends so many people. Particularly in this context, where Lord Monckton was clearly saying it humorously. If you recall, objections were raised about McCain’s citizenship as well (he was born in the Philippines), which he answered by fully documenting his status.
Obama has never bothered to do that, and there are about 19 ways the course of his status has been a bit odd, having traveled on foreign passports (theoretically, passports are proof of citizenship), school registrations, &c. I’m not sure where he was born, but, I don’t think too many other people can claim to _know_ either, as little proof has been offered.
The hostility not to asserting whether he is or is not a citizen, but simply to asking if he is, is what I do not really follow.

Ash
October 19, 2009 7:05 pm

I am not up on the legal aspects of all this in terms of the degree to which the US would not be able to get out of a treaty once in.
From Article 6 Section 2:
“This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any state to the Contrary notwithstanding. ”
Practically speaking, though, once something goes through and given the degree of increased centralised power both intra and inter States/Nations, it looks like the one-world government agenda is picking up, they almost have EU sown up and soon America will fall in line.
I can’t tell what it all means ultimately. However one thing is clear: increasing centralisation – no matter how it is labelled politically – tends to mean that ever larger populations end up pooling their tax and other contributions into the same lake; this means that whoever controls access to this centralised pool of funds and influence has correspondingly more power and influence. Again, to what end I cannot tell, but it seems there are always a class of people in any society for whom such power is the be all and end all of their existence.
But then, as they take ever-increasing share of the communal pie because nobody has the power to stop them, at some point the whole thing becomes so dysfunctional and/or oppressive that others gang up to bring them all down and the whole thing starts all over again.

October 19, 2009 8:12 pm

Google “The Report from Iron Mountain”. Published in 1967. Gov. think tank on how to keep people subject to gov. in a one world order. Answer-Create a credible environmental threat to the planet, not necessarily true, just believable.
The plan today, in full action. Spread the word.

October 19, 2009 8:16 pm

People need to wake up to the reality of this day. Obama is out to destroy our soveriegnty. His every action is this. This is our paradigm. It is not a matter of politics between right and left as we know it. It is intentional destruction through bankruptcy and growth of government as he signs our rights away.
campconservatism.com to make a difference.

October 20, 2009 6:25 am

To all the IDIOTS whose comments preceed mine, if you truly believe Obama can’t get things passed without the support of the Senate and House, you better look again at all he has done to this point of his “REIGN”! We have more government interferrance than we’ve ever had in history. We are giving up our freedoms and country piece by piece and we’re all too stupid to recogonize the probllem. Once, everything our forefathers fought to give to us, is gone there will be NO getting it back. WAKE UP AMERICANS! I feel like we’re in a free-fall (out of control) and letting one individual DICTATE to the masses, what’s GOOD for us. Let’s get the government back to the people, for the people NOT the WORLD and all other countries. Let those other countries deal with their own situations. We are not the saviors of ALL!!!!!!

Ash
October 20, 2009 8:29 am

Mark and Linda above: I find it hard to believe that anyone who reads this sort of blog can feel that ‘Obama’ is in charge of the agenda, one which has been basically in place for about a century. If you do, then he is doing his job well, which is to be the front man/lightning rod, a public figure on whom leadership is protected so that the true leadership remains hidden.
Do you really think that Obama can do anything without approval from those who brought him into office in the first place? Do you think he could have a) run for President and b) won without such support?
Do you really still believe that the US President runs the country and/or that the US Congress is working for the benefit of their constituents? I don’t think you do. So I also suggest you stop fixating on Obama whose main role is to fool you into thinking there is a visible system pulling all the strings.
There isn’t. Hasn’t been since around 1910, although it has been getting steadily more consolidated as a shadow operation since then and now is basically unstoppable.