My lovely wife pointed this out to me tonight while I was writing the post on the DMSP/SSMI sea ice sensor issue. It spoke to me, not only because it was hilarious, but because I immediately saw a comparison in it to how I feel (as well as many others) about the “rush” to save the planet. We keep hearing these pronouncements that we only have “X number of years left” to act, that we’ll reach “tipping points”, or “points of no return” if we don’t pass the Copenhagen Treaty.
But while the warmers are driving in the fast lane to Copenhagen, us annoying old skeptics (which is how many warmers view us) keep plodding along with facts (they are stubborn things you know) with occasional whacks to the climate science fast track like McIntyre’s recent revelations about the majority of the hockey stick being based on a few tree cores in Yamal and the use of Wikipedia graphs in United Nations official climate reports.
But warmers don’t like it when we do this, they simply want us to “get out of the way”:
BTW that’s not Joe Romm driving.
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Never mess with little old ladies ~and that bag hit with quite a punch!
BTW, perhaps there is a sea change at BBC. Regarding experts ~ these are usually those individuals who have mastered old knowledge and old ways of doing things. Aka old fossils. Out of touch with a new paradigm or new knowledge.
Further to my earlier post about the BBC report given high prominence in radio/tv/web media.
The BBC are reporting that Peter Wadhams(?) using the ice thickness ‘data’ brought back by the Catlin expedition led by Penn Haddow shows that the arctic could become ice free in summer.
There is a major problem with using the Catlin data which was taken by manual drilling alone as their radar sledge ‘broke down’ (hmmm?). The manual drilling method is extremely hard and the expedition was subject to restricted food rations well below that needed to perform that hard physical work coupled with terrible weather conditions.
The Catlin expedition also tracked south where the ice was thinner and because of the local conditions and lack of supplies they could not have drilled more that two holes per day, in fact we have no proof that they drilled the holes they claimed as there was no independent evidence of it.
A few dozen selected drill holes taken manually nowhere near the ice mass centre and contradicted directly by a German airbourne expedition which found thicker ice highlights how unreliable this ‘study’ by Wadhams actually is.
It seems ridiculous to me that a failed expedition cut short and using a tiny number of boreholes using extremely doubtful measuring techniques that cannot be verified by independent sources could be used as a data source for scientific study and get anywhere near a media outlet let alone given the highest prominence.
This whole shabby effort is nothing less than a scandal and is sadly commonplace nowadays within the insular and cosy relationship between the media and the pro AGW lobby.
X = An unknown Quantity.
Spert = A drip of water under pressure.
Dose that make experts unknown drips? : )
Further to Cassandra King above
They just keep going on. Two sets of measurements Hadow’s and two years ago by a British Navy sub.
Aarrghh he’s called it the “Alamo, the last stand of summer ice”.
So despite the warmists claims that 10 years of data is not enough, we are forecasting 10 years ahead from two sets of duff data points.
Oh dear
Paul
Cassandra King
An expert, according to British Law, is the person in the room who knows the most about a subject.
Another definition; an “ex” is a “has been” and a Xpert (pronounced spurt) is a “drip under pressure”.
Enjoy!
Probably expert burger-flippers and coffee makers.
“But warmers don’t like it when we do this, they simply want us to “get out of the way”:”
I also suspect that they think that we are becoming troublesome and won’t get out of they way. I would also think that they would have a general profile of who we are and that profile would include a high percentage of retired scientists who have the knowledge and can speak without fear and in that they would be right on target. So this ageist pigeon-holing can make sceptics an easier target to dismiss (on the basis of mental infirmity, using old data, lacking collective power, conservative attitudes).
The idea is to be diffuse and diverse as a group and to keep hammering away with the facts.
Have you seen this?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8307272.stm
It is about the renowned Pen Hadow and his highly scientific Arctic expedition.
Here’s a surprise view …
Climate change activist stopped from travelling to Copenhagen
Missed his bus, what a shame!
These comments are interesting and I think, on topic, they are from a group of Australian Scientists despairing at the ‘lack of progress on CC’ even to the point of saying that criticism of CC was “deeply unethical”.
I think that they were looking to the Government for leadership and feel disappointed. If CC leadership is lacking due to the unwillingness of the proponents to debate this issue( ‘the issue is settled’), then Copenhagen could fragment.
http://blogs.abc.net.au/events/2009/10/taking-the-temperature-of-climate-scientists-part-2.html
Speaking of videos, the Catlin Expedition has held a press conference.
“The Arctic Ocean could be largely ice-free and open to shipping during the summer in as little as ten years’ time, a top polar specialist has said.
“It’s like man is taking the lid off the northern part of the planet,” said Professor Peter Wadhams, from the University of Cambridge. ”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8308170.stm
More of the same …
How a six-month sentence could stop activists in their tracks
A useful idiot round-up, maybe.
What comes next I wonder?
Maybe it wasn’t an Air Bag. Maybe it was…
… The Enchanted Larch of Yamal.
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hotrod (20:08:10) :
Ahhh I can’t help chuckling about that video!
The video is a gem but that’s not how air bags really work.
Yes a real air bag would have knocked him back and broke his glasses.
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Don’t forget the burns.
The Caitlin Survey.
How to grab victory from defeat!
You knew it was inevitable that it would happen, with a compliant media and an environmentally motivated “scientist,” you can manipulate the results in any way that you wish. Had I been Hadlow, I would have retired from public life in disgrace at the utter failure and the shame he has brought to our country and to the long list of brave and truly pioneering explorers.
I should heve read the whole thread first, hey.
With regard to that BBC link http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8307272.stm I think we should all set our PC diaries for that date and hunt Professor Peter Wadhams down to tell him what we think of his expertise. The BBC is pathetic, but merely publishing what the Prof says (which is what Shukman would say in his and the Beeb’s defence. ‘Experts’ will come out with complete tosh and the BBC will gladly report it – as long as it’s at the Warmist’s end of the climate spectrum.
I have emailed Shukman and his co-conspirator Black many times. They evidently just ignore me now. In 10 years time they will have written a novel (which is what many BBC journos do) and they will say in their defence, “I was just following BBC orders, and that stuff doesn’t matter any more as the world is cooling now, and anyway, have you heard about my new novel?”.
Oh really? I’ll see your 10 years and raise you 10. The Times is reporting that it’ll be ice free in 20 years time. Actually, that’s quite some improvement. About two years ago they reported that it would be ice free in 5 years time!
Quote from today’s Daily Telegraph at: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/6326446/Arctic-will-be-ice-free-in-a-decade-according-to-Pen-Hadow.html
“Pen Hadow took more than 1,500 measurements of sea ice Photo: GETTY
The explorer trekked more than 269 miles towards the North Pole this winter in temperatures below -40 degrees C to measure the depth of the ice.
The average thickness of ice floes was 1.8 metres, suggesting the ice sheet is now largely made up of first year ice rather than “multiyear” ice that will have built up over time.”
Question: How many measurements is that per day?
An expert is somebody who knows a great deal about very little
I had a thought that somebody had recently published/highlighted the US NSIDC data suggesting quite the opposite regarding the amount of first year ice, & that in fact 2nd year + ice had been observed. Of course this scientist from Cambridge didn’t actually go there with the hapless Hadow three, so is relying on their gathered data. Now, were these not the hapless three dropped on first year ice, that was apparently well known as first year ice by many (except them), & were shocked to discover this first year ice was where it was. Smart people!
Now, many years ago, (& I have mentioned this before) when the BBC was the BBC, as opposed to the Marxist Socialist Greenie State mouthpiece it is now, they had a marvellous series of programmes on engineering. Hoorah! One of them featured the ring pull for drink cans & how it needed just the right amount of pressure to be effective & the engineering challenges it presented. Another was on the Bra, & how it had to support the female breast firmly yet delicately under all sorts of daily activities, & the engineeerrriiinnnngggg chhhaaallennngeesssss itttisi presentnensnnenentd, sorry about that I lost my train of thought for a moment. Another was on the air-bag, & how that had to be engineered to be perfect, & only function at the right impact force, not heavy braking, nor heavy acceleration, hand-brake turns etc, & not be subjected to extraneous forces that could accidently set it off. So no, I agree it doesn’t work that way! I recall there were scare stories about air-bags over here eminating from the colonies about them going off accidentally, which turned out to be false, certainly by the time air-bags were provided in the UK. Most engineering that we see today & take for granted, had teething troubles but we lived through it. Clever mankind.
BTW, an announcement on BBC Radio 2 this morning at around 06:50hrs from one of the tabloids, was that some stories about celebs were deliberately put about to show up how poor the journos were at checking facts when the stories were dished out to them. Sounds familiar.
Fact is that we, old skeptics, are the ones who did not participate directly in the dawning of the New Age, the age of Aquarius, because we were working hard, seriously studying or at war, while the now global warmers/climate changers, were smoking grass, taking LSD, etc., in one word: getting away from reality and responsibility. This is the essence of this silly creed: Finding ways to keep on getting things the easy way…and, at the same time, allucinating they are the ones who will save the world.
Peace and love!
Make love not war! 🙂
Leigh Walker (23:01:40) :
X = An unknown Quantity.
Spert = A drip of water under pressure.
Dose that make experts unknown drips? : )
no
ex= has-been
spert= drip under pressure
As far as I can tell the “it’s worse than we thought” movement is worse than we thought.
Cassandra King (21:10:48) :
[Expert]: “A person with a knowledge as big as a sea having an inch of depth”