I can understand how frustrating it must have been for Stossel at ABC, given that he’s on the other side of the global warming issue from the news department there, but moving to Fox will minimize the broader impact of what he has been saying about the subject of global warming.
It is worth a flashback though, to his report in 2007 on the issue.
I hope he’ll keep an eye on the issue.
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Paul MacRae: “Stossel could change networks, but where does someone in Victoria go to get the other side?”
Why here of course!
“It’s a one-newspaper town.”
From a Canadian perspective (though not necesessarily Victoria), I find the National Post has several excellent columnists who work the other side of the street (Lorne Gunter, Lawrence Solomon, Peter Foster, Terence Corcoran). You’ll also get a different perspective from the Sun columnists (especially The Calgary Sun) but then it’s the Sun!
If you want to make yourself feel a bit better about it, cancel your subscription and just read it online (although they still may make a bit of money from your eyeballs depending on how their online advertising works). I eventually did this with the G&M due to getting fed up with bad delivery and their one-sided distortions of the global warming issue. When I called to cancel , the girl in subscriptions asked why I was cancelling. I said it was because I was saving the planet! I continued that I had read all these articles in the G&M about the climate change peril and I was just doing my part by reducing my consumption of resources! Left her with little to say!
Paul MacRae (12:09:08) : I am a professional writer by journalistic standards, but my last four skeptical freelance opeds on climate change were rejected, as are anyone else’s. Stossel could change networks, but where does someone in Victoria go to get the other side? It’s a one-newspaper town.
Well, given how newspapers have been going belly up all over the place when they pursue the “no news is good propaganda” strategy, i’d suggest finding out what web news serves the area and write for them, or if there is not one at present, start your own!
It takes zero money.
Just go to http://wordpress.com/ and get a free account. That’s what I did. You can do all the nifty stuff that Anthony does here on his WordPress account. Give it a spiffy name like “Victoria Real New!” and make sure your writing has some “juice” to it.
I suspect that in no time flat a professional writer with some energy and a goal could sink that local tree killer …
Put a link up to Craig’s List for your local want-ads.
Put a link to wunderground for your local weather.
Sign up a few local shops for, initially free, spot ads.
Put up a review of what’s playing at the local theatre(s).
(My spouse, in particular, loves reading clothing ads.)
Put a local small food store up with print it yourself “e-coupons”.
Get a local High School English major to write up the local school sports.
Get some folks from both sides of a couple of local controversial issues to write opinions. (Perhaps the weekly / monthly “from City Hall Meetings”?)
Then slot yourself in as Editor In Chief with your “one a week local restaurant review” (you get to tax deduct the meals 😉 and your one a week “Tech Talk” and your one a week “Education In The News” and your one a week “Climate What Again?” and…
Which of the two choices would you read? Them, or yours? Think about it.
Once you build enough readership, you can add paying ads, if you feel like it…
“People have proclaimed him (Gore) a prophet, a cultural icon, a conquering hero…”
All good scientific terms?
How about, possibly, though I am slightly hesitating (god, those snippers are painful)- ‘scientific illiterate?’
Mark, Antonio, & Paul:
As a Canadian newspaper junkie (I have 3 newspapers delivered to my door each morning, and monitor others online), I certainly agree with you. You won’t find any skeptical climate stories in the Globe & Mail, the Toronto Star, or the Victoria Times Colonist. Fortunately, the National Post is still around, and they do publish columns by Lorne Gunter and Lawrence Solomon from time to time. In fact, there’s a good climate column by Lorne Gunter in today’s (Sept. 11) National Post.
Stossell’s voice will be like a whisper at the base of a roaring Niagra Falls and will be drowned out by the concensus in the MSM. Just remember that those cable news shows still only pull a fraction of the audiences of the MSM. I wish him luck but the argument over global warming is over and Hansen’s side has won. It’s all about how much money will be spent on how fast we eliminate the use of coal and oil. If you are in doubt about this all you have to do is ask your schoolchildren. They already know we must stop using coal and oil in order to keep the polar bears from drowning. Their teachers have science learning segments on these types of global warming topics and your children are being indoctrinated year after year.
Thanks
William
Anyone who thinks Fox is fair and balanced needs to have their head examined. (Likewise with CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, and in fact any news outlet.) But Fox does the get the ratings. It infuriates the left because Fox does expose them. Therefore, they smear just like Fox smears the left. How hard would it be to have an unbiased news source?
Stossel is getting an upgrade. He is getting more viewers. The others are dying, Fox is thriving. (But not by me, I don’t watch Fox.) I always like Stossel because he had the guts to expose people with undeniable facts. The quickest way to make someone angry is to be right when they know that you are right and they are wrong. The stronger a person feels, the angrier they are when you are right. John Stossel had the guts to tell people they were wrong to their face knowing the reaction he would get. I won’t watch Glenn Beck, but I will watch John Stossel on Fox.
Rupert Murdoch may be many things. But nobody can accuse of being business stupid.
@Mark (11:10:43) :
thanks for bringing this to attention.
the authors are well known for untrue stories.
what they used to describe as a slight increase in sea-ice in 2009, could actually become the biggest increase ever since satellite measurements startet in 1979.
“Antonio San (12:18:56) :
Hi Mark, thanks for letting me know about the Globe. Alan Burke threatened me with going to Matthew Ingram to bar my posts… nice to meet you outside the G&M arena!”
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It is a small world online! I used to get so frustrated trying to debate with Alan Burke on the G&M, that guy thinks he is god and can never be wrong. Most narrow minded Canadian in the country hands down.
I bet John Stossel will thrive at his new home, much like Glen Beck has. Beck’s ratings are 3 or 4 times what they were at CNN Headline News.
In response to Lucy Skywalker’s piece on WUWT (September 9) tamino at Open Mind (http://tamino.wordpress.com/) has just posted an analysis of data from arctic weather stations that quite clearly show a hockey stick graph. I realise that posters here are not receptive to such data just as posters on Open Mind are very dismissive of WUWT. I do not have the expertise or to be truthful, the interest/incentive, to check the validity of tamino’s results but at face value they certainly cast significant doubt on Lucy Skywalker’s headline “Arctic Temperatures-What Hockey Stick?” It may not go down well here but if left unchallenged or not scrutinised, the results from tamino will cast significant doubt on the scientific validity of the articles published on WUWT. Maintaining scientific credibility surely must be paramount.
Paul MacRae (12:09:08) :
Feel sorry for you bud, B.C. is full of environmentalist, and they all want to us to change ‘for the good of the earth’. You have an up hill battle there. However most media in Canada are very biased also! CBC gave us “an inconvenient lie” twice over the xmas holidays and then when many of us complained they stated, that they give a balanced approach….ya….right….
Arctic is wide open now and just a blue ocean
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090911/ap_on_re_eu/eu_germany_arctic_passage
Mark (11:10:43) :
“the opening of the northeast passage”:
FRANKFURT, Germany – Two German ships have traversed the fabled Northeast Passage,
To add to what you say. I undersatnd they are being escorted by the Russian nuclear-powered icebreaker “50 Years Since Victory”. This type of vessel is able to cut through 2m ice at a steady 3 knots.
And this
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/705320.stm
The North Eastern Passage lies entirely in Russian waters. The Russians have been using the passage internally for some time, but show signs of willingness to open it up to international traffic.
Doesn’t sound very natural, and I understand the Russians are keen to open the NE passage up. I wonder how much assistance the summer melt has had considering the US and Canada can speed up the Spring melt on the Great Lakes by breaking the ice.
From what I have seen watching the video’s posted I think this is a nice guy and I wish him all the best.
Fox must be proud to have him and I am confident he will be a very productive voice
fighting the scare mungers.
From what I have seen watching the video’s posted I think this is a very nice guy and I wish him all the best.
Fox must be proud to have him and I am confident he will continue to be a very productive voice fighting the scare mongers and promoting objective journalism.
I really loved the video’s.
At the top levels FOX is MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC — these are just niches, to be filled. Believing in their “take” is like believing in the fairytale of two parties. Liberals are good people (citizens) just like you are good people (citizens). They are being misled by their “leaders” — just like you are being misled by your “leaders”. More and more I hear people say they never watch any tv news because they realize all of it is sensationalized and far from accurate. The box (boob tube) is there to keep you in it.
BTW, what is so loony about wanting safe transportation systems, pristine waters, excellent schools, racial equality, reliable energy, honest scientific research, well managed parks and other liberal values? That is what real liberals want. It’s the phony “leaders” that are creating the problems.
“The Globe and Mail, Canada’s national newspaper is censoring comments that point out their global warming bias under the guise that some of their stalwart pro AGW poster”
pls provide a link . . . might be a fun site to visit.
Indoctrination?
http://www.globalwarming.org/2009/09/11/next-stop-for-ace/
WHo gets more out of this, Fox or Stossel? Well, it looks like a great capitalist exchange because BOTH sides win big! Stossel will surely get bigger ratings, and Fox will get-well they will get John Stossel!
Mark and E.M. Smith,
Thanks for the suggestions. I do subscribe to the Post and the Globe, and do have my own blog (paulmacrae.com) on climate. What I meant was, of course, that there are no major local outlets (apart from some small community papers) for the skeptical position.
tj (14:09:45) :
BTW, what is so loony about wanting safe transportation systems, pristine waters, excellent schools, racial equality, reliable energy, honest scientific research, well managed parks and other liberal values?
The means by which they want to acheive these things.
That is what real liberals want.
Then they should embrace the one way in which these things can be ever hope to be acheived.
Mark
Wade (13:23:14) :
Anyone who thinks Fox is fair and balanced needs to have their head examined.
(But not by me, I don’t watch Fox.)
If you don’t watch Fox, how do you know they are not fair and balanced? Just askin…
Mark
tj: BTW, what is so loony about wanting safe transportation systems, pristine waters, excellent schools, racial equality, reliable energy, honest scientific research, well managed parks and other liberal values? That is what real liberals want. It’s the phony “leaders” that are creating the problems.
tj,
I assure you as a proud conservative (adherence to the Constitution, low taxes, strong military, all equally subject to the law, limited government…) conservatives have NO problem whatsoever with “safe transportation systems, pristine waters, excellent schools, racial equality, reliable energy, honest scientific research, well managed parks” and the like.
Actually, we’d LOVE to see those things from the liberal side! What? Do you think we give our kids dirty water to drink and advise them to smoke like the President?
Confiscatory tax rates and absurd environmental policies and the cronyism of community activism will not get us there, but we will continue to try to make life better for all.
Jim G (11:09:45) :
> Although the MSM and lefty pol’s minimizes Fox. It appears that viewers do not.
> They have nearly 3x the viewers as the next station MSNBC for Prime Time.
And over 300,000 more viewers than the other stations combined.
Careful – you’re talking cable. The topic here, I thought, was John
Stossel leaving ABC for different pastures.
> Updated: Cable News Ratings for Tuesday, September 8, 2009
> Posted on 10 September 2009 by Robert Seidman
> 10:55AM PDT: we got updated numbers for 9/8 and have replaced what was originally posted.
> Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for September 8, 2009
> P2+ Total Day
> FNC – 1,451,000 viewers
> CNN – 549,000 viewers
> MSNBC –444,000 viewers
> CNBC – 192,000 viewers
> HLN – 301,000 viewers
So, where are the ratings for new programs on the old networks?
>Source:
>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/09/10/cable-news-ratings-for-tuesday-september-8-2009/26742
I didn’t see anything except for cable ratings.
Steven Hill (13:51:14) :
> Arctic is wide open now and just a blue ocean
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090911/ap_on_re_eu/eu_germany_arctic_passage
Better check that web page again – they must’ve replaced the photo with one that has ice in it.