Spencer on Waxman-Markey's Cap and Trade

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Cap and Trade and the Illusion of the New Green Economy

Dr. Roy Spencer, from his blog at www.drroyspencer.com

July 1st, 2009

I don’t think Al Gore in his wildest dreams could have imagined how successful the “climate crisis” movement would become. It is probably safe to assume that this success is not so much the result of Gore’s charisma as it is humanity’s spiritual need to be involved in something transcendent – like saving the Earth.

After all, who wouldn’t want to Save the Earth? I certainly would. If I really believed that manmade global warming was a serious threat to life on Earth, I would be actively campaigning to ‘fix’ the problem.

But there are two practical problems with the theory of anthropogenic global warming: (1) global warming is (or at least was) likely to be a mostly natural process; and (2) even if global warming is manmade, it will be immensely difficult to avoid further warming without new energy technologies that do not currently exist.

On the first point, since the scientific evidence against global warming being anthropogenic is what most of the rest of this website is about, I won’t repeat it here. But on the second point…what if the alarmists are correct? What if humanity’s burning of fossil fuels really is causing global warming? What is the best path to follow to fix the problem?

Cap-and-Trade

The most popular solution today is carbon cap-and-trade legislation. The European Union has hands-on experience with cap-and-trade over the last couple of years, and it isn’t pretty. Over there it is called their Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS). Here in the U.S., the House of Representatives last Friday narrowly passed the Waxman-Markey bill. The Senate plans on taking up the bill as early as the fall of 2009.

Under cap-and-trade, the government institutes “caps” on how much carbon dioxide can be emitted, and then allows companies to “trade” carbon credits so that the market rewards those companies that find ways to produce less CO2. If a company ends up having more credits than they need, they can then sell those credits to other companies.

While it’s advertised as a “market-based” approach to pollution reduction, it really isn’t since the market did not freely choose cap-and-trade…it was imposed upon the market by the government. The ‘free market’ aspect of it just helps to reduce the economic damage done as a result of the government regulations.

The Free Market Makes Waxman-Markey Unnecessary

There are several serious problems with cap-and-trade. In the big picture, as Europe has found out, it will damage the economy. This is simply because there are as yet no large-scale, practical, and cost-competitive replacements for fossil fuels. As a result, if you punish fossil fuel use with either taxes or by capping how much energy is allowed to be used, you punish the economy.

Now, if you are under the illusion that cap-and-trade will result in the development of high-tech replacements for fossil fuels, you do not understand basic economics. No matter how badly you might want it, you can not legislate a time-travel machine into existence. Space-based solar power might sound really cool, but the cost of it would be astronomical (no pun intended), and it could only provide the tiniest fraction of our energy needs. Wind power goes away when the wind stops, and is only practical in windy parts of the country. Land-based solar power goes away when the sun sets, and is only practical in the sunny Southwest U.S. While I personally favor nuclear power, it takes forever to license and build a nuclear power plant, and it would take 1,000 1-gigawatt nuclear power plants to meet electricity demand in the United States.

And no one wants any of these facilities near where they live.

Fortunately, cap-and-trade legislation is not necessary anyway because incentives already exist – right now — for anyone to come up with alternative technologies for energy generation and energy efficiency. Taxpayers and consumers already pay for billions of dollars in both government research (through taxes) and private research (through the cost of goods and services) to develop new energy technologies.

Whoever succeeds in these efforts stands to make a lot of money simply because everything we do requires energy. And I do mean everything…even sitting there and thinking. Using your brain requires energy, which requires food, which requires fossil fuels to grow, distribute, refrigerate and cook that food.

Economic Competitiveness in the Global Marketplace

Secondly, when instituted unilaterally by a country, cap-and-trade legislation makes that country less competitive in the global economy. Imports and trade deficits increase as prices at home rise, while companies or whole industries close and move abroad to countries where they can be more competitive.

The Obama administration and congress are trying to minimize this problem by imposing tariffs on imports, but this then hurts everyone in all of the countries involved. Remember, two countries only willingly engage in trade with each other because it economically benefits both countries by reducing costs, thus raising the standard of living in those countries.

The Green Mafia

Third, cap-and-trade is a system that is just begging for cheating, bribing, and cooking the books. How will a company’s (or a farm’s) greenhouse gas emissions be gauged, and then monitored over time? A massive new bureaucracy will be required, with a litany of rules and procedures which have limited basis in science and previous experience.

And who will decide how many credits will initially be given by the government to each company/farm/industry? Does anyone expect that these decisions will be impartial, without political favoritism shown toward one company over another, or one industry over another? This is one reason why some high-profile corporations are now on the global warming bandwagon. They (or at least a few of their executives) are trying to position themselves more favorably in what they see to be an inevitable energy-rationed economic system.

Big Oil and Big Coal Will Not Pay for Cap-and-Trade

Fourth, it is the consumer – the citizen – who will pay for all of this, either in the form of higher prices, or reduced availability, or reduced economic growth. Companies have no choice but to pass increased costs on to consumers, and decreased profits to investors. You might think that “Big Business” will finally be paying their “fair share”, but Big Business is what provides jobs. No Big Business, no jobs.

The Green Jobs Illusion

Fifth, the allure of “green jobs” might be strong, but the economic benefit of those jobs is an illusion. The claim that many thousands of new green jobs will be created under such a system is probably true. But achieving low unemployment through government mandates does not create wealth – it destroys wealth.

Let me illustrate. We could have full employment with green jobs today if we wanted to. We could pay each other to dig holes in the ground and then fill the holes up again, day after day, month after month. (Of course, we’ll use shovels rather than backhoes to reduce fossil fuel use.) How’s that for a green jobs program?

My point is that it matters a LOT what kinds of jobs are created. Let’s say that today 1,000 jobs are required to create 1 gigawatt of coal-fired electricity. Now, suppose we require that electricity to come from a renewable source instead. If 5,000 jobs are needed to create the same amount of electricity with windmills that 1,000 jobs created with coal, then efficiency and wealth generation will be destroyed.

Sure, you can create as many green jobs as you want, but the comparative productivity of those jobs is what really matters. In the end, when the government manipulates the economy in such a fashion, the economy suffers.

And even if a market for green equipment (solar panels, windmills, etc.) does develop, there is little doubt that countries like China will be able to manufacture that equipment at lower cost than the United States. Especially considering all of our laws, regulations, limits, and restrictions.

So, What’s the Alternative?

If anthropogenic global warming does end up being a serious problem, then what can be done to move away from fossil fuels? I would say: Encourage economic growth, and burn fossil fuels like there is no tomorrow! Increased demand will lead to higher prices, and as long as the free market is allowed to work, new energy technologies will be developed.

As long a demand exists for energy (and it always will), there will be people who find ways to meet that demand. There is no need for silly awards for best inventions, etc., because the market value of those inventions will far exceed the value of any gimmicky, government-sponsored competitions.

Why are Politicians so Enamored by Cap-and-Trade?

Given the pain (and public backlash) the EU has experienced from two years’ experience with its Emissions Trading Scheme, why would our politicians ignore that foreign experience, as well as popular sentiment against cap-and-trade here at home, and run full-steam with eyes closed into this regulatory quagmire?

The only answer I can come up with is: more money and more power for government. As a former government employee, I am familiar with the mindset. While the goal of a private sector job is to create wealth, the government employee’s main job is to spend as much of that wealth as possible. A government agency’s foremost goal is self preservation, which means perpetuating a public need for the agency. The idea that our government exists to help enable a better life for its citizens might have been true 100 years ago, but today it is hopelessly naïve.

All Pain, No Gain

And finally, let’s remember what the whole purpose of carbon cap-and-trade is: to reduce future warming of the climate system. Even some prominent environmentalists are against Waxman-Markey because they do not believe it will substantially reduce carbon dioxide emissions here at home. To the extent that provisions are added to the bill to make it more palatable to politicians from agricultural states or industrial states, it then accomplishes even less of what it is intended to accomplish: reductions in carbon dioxide emissions.

And even if cap-and-trade does what is intended, the reduction in CO2 emissions as a fraction of global CO2 emissions will moderate future warming by, at most, around one tenth of a degree C by late in this century. That is probably not even measurable.

Of course, this whole discussion assumes that the climate system is very sensitive to our carbon dioxide emissions. But if the research we are doing is correct, then manmade global warming is being overestimated by about a factor of 5, and it is the climate system itself that causes climate change…not humans.

If that is the case, then nothing humanity does is going to substantially affect climate one way or the other. Indeed, given the fact that life on Earth depends upon the tiny amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, I continue to predict that more atmospheric CO2 will, in the end, be a good thing for life on Earth.

Yet, many politicians are so blinded by the additional political power and tax revenue that will come from a cap-and-trade system that they do not want to hear any good news from the science. For instance, in my most recent congressional testimony, the good news I presented was met with an ad hominem insult from Senator Barbara Boxer.

I can only conclude that some politicians actually want global warming to be a serious threat to humanity. I wonder why?

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rbateman
July 3, 2009 1:21 am

We must stop acting quickly.
Haste makes waste.

Uncivil Servant
July 3, 2009 1:22 am

Maybe OT, but somewhat a propos considering Dr Spencer’s “I wonder why?”:
“Now, there is a superabundance of technical intellectuals, and their mentality has changed very sharply. The skilled man, who would formerly never listen to revolutionary talk, is now greatly interested in it. Recently I was dining with the Royal Society, our great English scientific society. The President’s speech was a speech for social planning and scientific control. To-day, the man at the head of the Royal Society holds revolutionary views, and insists on the scientific reorganisation of human society.”
— H.G. Wells, letter to Josef Stalin, 1932

Benjamin
July 3, 2009 1:45 am

Very well put, the whole post!
Now, I just want to point out one uh… “minute” thing… that REALLY bothers me about the whole energy issue. It has little to do with the post, but still…
Coal and oil provide far more than energy. I’ve charts/diagrams that show just how important these resources are, how the compounds they provide branch into just about every aspect of our lives.
So all the energy that coal and oil provide not only do so very well, but what they are also gives that generated energy a purpose, provides the very basis for an industrial economy. Try getting away without steel, rubber, plastic, and lubricants (to name just four things). Not even nuclear (being a net consumer of those afore mentioned things), for all the mega-wattage it can provide, can not even come close to doing what oil and coal can do.
So whatever the would-be alternatives turn out to be… they have their work cut out for them! It will not only have to provide the kick, it will have to provide numerous other byproducts in order to as economical or more economical than coal and oil.
And thus far, I ain’t seen anything yet( and I doubt that I will in my lifetime)
I just wanted to point that out because it’s never mentioned, not even among the best commentary I’ve come across over the years. I mean… why do we worry about JUST energy output, when so many other things matter as well?

fredlightfoot
July 3, 2009 1:53 am

Perhaps, slightly OT.
In 1988 I was fortunate to be able to lease a waterfront property on an island off Mersing in Malaysia. I built a house and a jetty for my boat, the jetty is 112 meters long, with piles of Malaysian teak, the local contractor before driving the piles ( a tripod with a rope and a big stone hand shaped as a hammer and 8 men to pull the rope) painted the part that would remain under water and cut a ring in the wood to show the workmen where to stop driving the piles, this ring was a work of art as the piles were driven at different times but somehow they all arrived at mean high tide.
Over the years my family and I have spent 2-3 months a year there and next year i hope to retire and live there permanently. The point that I want to make is this, until I started following WUWT I never gave a thought to sea levels, but now I have, as I have a ‘personal’ gauge going back to 1988, as the bay in which the jetty is located is sheltered, and in a area that has next to no sea turbulence, ( natives think nothing go fishing and visiting 50 miles offshore in a dugout ) a normal wave is about 6-12 inches, yep you guessed it no I repeat NO changes in sea level.

Benjamin
July 3, 2009 1:57 am

And, gosh, I wouldn’t be doing my self-appointed duty of drawing people’s attention to things if I didn’t point out that…
When priced in gold, the cost of a bbl of oil has remained remarkably stable over the last 60 years (!), even during the war, the post war era, the OPEC embargo, the Gulf War of the 90’s, and the recent run-up to the $150/bbl. The price of oil in gold has remained in the range of about 2.5 to 3.5 grams of gold per bbl! Right now, it’s at about 2.25 grams, an all-time low!
http://goldprice.org/james-turk/uploaded_images/Oil-Price-780567.GIF
http://goldprice.org/james-turk/index.html
And it just makes me wonder about what they mean when they say “when the price of oil rises, more resources will become economical to drill”. Because so far in my analysis of the gold/oil ratio, it seems to me that oil becomes cheaper in gold when it becomes more expensive in dollars. And dollar fluctuations being a function of interest rates being out of control of the free-market…
Well, it just boggles the mind into a state of wonder. Also, the whole peak oil theory rests on things like cost analysis. Makes me wonder if in fact we are running out of economical oil at all or if we in fact much much more of it than is oft reported.

Ron de Haan
July 3, 2009 2:04 am

America, they are steeling your freedom.
Government is turning into a theater where what is said and what is done is as different as Venus and Mars.
Don’t take it.
The 4th of July is a good day to show them where you stand.
Visit a Tea Party.

urederra
July 3, 2009 2:11 am

OT, but Randal Munroe just posted a comic at xkcd.com today that Anthony can use in any prediction related blog entry. Recommended for Al Gore’s “in five years the Arctic will be ice free” and the like.
http://xkcd.com/605/

Flanagan
July 3, 2009 2:15 am

As a European, I really wonder where this idea that C&T has seriously damaged the EU economy comes from? It started in January 2005 and since then the GDP growth has been 2.1 (2005) 3.3 (2006) 3.1 (2007), while the GDP in 2008 went down to 1.8 because of the subprime crisis. In the US the evolution was 4.40 (2005) 3.20 (2006) 3.20 (2007) and 2 in 2008.
In other words, since it was implemented the GDP growth rate has comparatively increased in Europe while it decreased in the US. Or, at least, the were equal. So where’s the problem?

RhudsonL
July 3, 2009 2:17 am

But is is a long weekend coming up and the sheep are getting smaller.

Pat
July 3, 2009 2:21 am

“Flanagan (02:15:03) :
As a European, I really wonder where this idea that C&T has seriously damaged the EU economy comes from? It started in January 2005 and since then the GDP growth has been 2.1 (2005) 3.3 (2006) 3.1 (2007), while the GDP in 2008 went down to 1.8 because of the subprime crisis. In the US the evolution was 4.40 (2005) 3.20 (2006) 3.20 (2007) and 2 in 2008.
In other words, since it was implemented the GDP growth rate has comparatively increased in Europe while it decreased in the US. Or, at least, the were equal. So where’s the problem?”
So far off the mark it’s unreal. The European implementation of an “ETS” has done nothing but raise billions of euros. It has not “kick started” the Green revolution. It has not reduced greenhouse emissions.

Pierre Gosselin
July 3, 2009 2:26 am

Dr. Spencer is of course correct.
But I have to admit that I’m getting tired of always reading the same narratives. Everything he has written I’ve read 10 times somewhere else already, and it is getting tiresome.
Why can’t the climate just cool another degree or two Celsius more, and then we could be done with it.
I showing symptoms of batttle fatigue.

Pierre Gosselin
July 3, 2009 2:27 am
Pierre Gosselin
July 3, 2009 2:31 am

Flanagan,
You ought to enroll in a basic economics course.
Artificially high energy costs lead to higher prices, a greater competitive disadvantage and thus a huge net loss of jobs.
Then there’s the price of greater government intrusion into our private lives.

Flanagan
July 3, 2009 2:35 am

The car industry also provides a good example. Why do you think the US car industry is si low rightnow? And what about Fiat buying Chrysler?
European constructors had to cope with increasingly stricter rules about CO2 emissions, something I think that could never be accepted in the US. The consequence is that those cars actually have incredibly low fuel consumption – in American standards. 70 mpg? 80 mpg? And these cars cost exactly the same as the American ones. The consumer doesn’t need to think twice before choosing… It is time the US wake up before it’s too late.

Ron de Haan
July 3, 2009 2:37 am

The aim is to shut down our economies.
This is the next step, reducing free trade!
Obama and his gang are the executioners and they make the best of it the way they spend tax money and jet around the world.
http://www.euractiv.com/en/climate-change/un-wto-call-trade-shift-halt-climate-change/article-183687?Ref=RSS
Obama and his gang are the executioners and they make the best of it, the way they spend tax money, the way they are jetting around the world.
Think about the 4th of July and visit a Tea Party.

Neville
July 3, 2009 2:41 am

Roy left out one of the most important parts of the argument, the Indians and Chinese won’t play ball.
Most of the growth in emissions in the next 20, 30, 40 years will come from these 2 big countries each with a population of 1 billion plus and by 2040 they will emit around 50% of the planet’s co2.
They have stated often enough that they will not reduce their use of fossil fuels ,so anything wealthy first world countries try and accomplish will be a waste of time and money.
We may as well flush those trillions of dollars down the toilet for all the good we will do.
In other words we cannot keep up with our reductions and match their growth in co2 in the years to come, therefore co2 levels must inevitably rise.

Dave Wendt
July 3, 2009 2:59 am

Nice essay Dr. Spencer, but like most discussions of this topic it fails to address the aspect which I have always found most troubling. That is the almost automatic, and to my thinking weakly supported, assumption that if the predicted warming does eventuate it will necessarily be catastrophic for all life on the planet. In my own efforts to understand this controversy, I have come upon a fair number statements from seemingly authoritative people, who actually spend their time investigating catastrophic weather phenomena (hurricanes, cyclones,tornadoes,droughts,etc.) who question this conventional wisdom. Given the intellectual thuggery that people who have the temerity to challenge climate orthodoxy expose themselves to, I strongly suspect that there may exist a larger population who share this belief, but aren’t willing to incur the abuse and or the financial cost of speaking out.
To my mind the only path that makes sense is to pursue a path which produces the greatest amount of wealth for the greatest number of people on the planet, since any society’s ability to adapt to and survive the vagaries that the climate may present is directly related to its’ relative wealth. Even if the Waxman Markey bill could absolutely guarantee flatline temperatures from now until 2100 the sacrifices of liberty and prosperity that it demands would make it an incredibly stupid thing to do. And if continuing to burn fossil fuels exactly as we have continues to move a growing percentage of the world to middle class standards of living (the burgeoning prosperity of China and India have created a situation where for the first time in history a majority of the planet’s population is now middle class) even if we could prove that a warmer climate would result, it would still be the smart thing to do.

Nev
July 3, 2009 3:03 am

We need more voices like Anthony’s and Roy’s. And for those who haven’t seen it yet, Monckton of Brenchley has posted this Air Con extract which underlines Roy’s post above with some very disturbing facts and figures:
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/commentaries_essays/seriously_inconvenient_truth.html

Another Ian
July 3, 2009 3:13 am

I’ve heard it that
“Daylight Saving” was the ultimate political delusion – let politicians think they controlled time.
Methinks this has now have been trumped

Benjamin
July 3, 2009 3:18 am

Flanagan (02:15:03) : “…” (on GDP)
What you need to look at is the ratio of GDP to debt. GDP to debt means that, for every new dollar (or in your case, euro) created a certain amount of return can be exected. If the ratio is postive, then every new dollar in debt will generate a postive GDP. If, on the other hand, the ratio is less than 1:1, then every new dollar costs more to make than it’s worth. So if it’s 1: .99, then every 99 cents of GDP growth costs one dollar of debt to make.
This doesn’t stop GDP from APPEARING to grow, however. It can, and just so long as people don’t see the dark side of the moon, government and thier economists can claim anything they want by pointing to the growing GDP, no matter how lame-brained or ham-fisted their spending is.
If you’re really, truly curious about the subject, Flannigan, I suggest, as someone already did, that you read up on economics and economic indicators. But debt to GDP isn’t exactly econ 101 and the info on such isn’t exactly readily available. It’s a bit more advanced a concept. What you’ll need to do is learn to use the data that the ECB (in your case) puts out, and learn to derive the ratio from that info. Or perhaps you can find an economist that can do it for you and explain it.
Wheather you do or don’t though, be warned that GDP alone is NOT the full story!

Gillian Lord
July 3, 2009 3:38 am

from Gillian
It really seems that the only Green Jobs which would be worthwhile are treadmills and rickshaws.

Flanagan
July 3, 2009 3:42 am

Pat: your assertion on no reduction is somewhat strange. A whole bunch of countries decreased their emissions of CO2. Examples are: Belgium, France, Ireland, Portugal, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Sweden, etc. Other countries still increased their emissions, resulting in a globally slightly positive balance which is MUCH less than the US and than what would have been observed without these rules, of course.
Pierre: unemployement in EU went from 8.9% in 2005 (when the ETS started) to 6.7% in 2008. Would you call that a ” huge net loss of jobs”?

Tenuc
July 3, 2009 4:10 am

Dr. Roy Spencer is on the money again with his assessment of the Cap and Trade debacle.
I think the tipping point is now fast approaching when the people of the Western world will wake up and smell the coffee big time.
It’s not just the sham of global warming, but the constant erosion of our freedoms and the relentless pressure for world government which is making the ordinary man in the street start to think at last.
We’re in for some interesting times over the next few years.

July 3, 2009 4:11 am

This getting off foreign oil is a promise to the ignorant. I will continue to heat my house with oil. I will continue to drive my car with gasoline. How do they propose that I drive the 300 mile roundtrip I am making today? Stop for a 6 hr recharge in the middle? Anthony you might have an electric car, but my driveway only fits so many cars, I don’t have room nor cash for extra for a novelty item. Also, what is so bad about foreign oil? They pull the tanker up, push it through the pipelines and walla, for $2.75/g I can drive my 300 miles today for $40, that is a deal. Let’s use the Arab’s oil for now at $2.75/g and in 30 years when supplies decrease we can drill offshore and in Alaska sell ours for $200/barrel.
Regarding alternative energy. It doesn’t exist. You can’t make energy out of dollars. Wind energy results in a net loss of dollars. More dollars are put in than energy is received.
http://nofreewind.blogspot.com/2009/07/wind-turbines-do-not-create-energy.html
Here is something about how ridiculous it is to think that we can run our electric cars on wind energy.
http://nofreewind.blogspot.com/2009/05/texas-wind-doesnt-work.html

Leon Brozyna
July 3, 2009 4:11 am

“I wonder why?”
Such a simple innocuous question. If I were try to give a full answer, it would turn into several books. But since they’ve already been written and are already in print, try starting with Atlas Shrugged. As a country we’re getting what we’ve always asked for from the government, be it local, state, or national – “do something.” There is no vast evil conspiracy plotting the demise of the country, we’re doing it ourselves to ourselves.

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