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WUWT commenter “philincalifornia” writes about Lockwood’s comment in National Geographic about the state of our sun and predictions of a quiet period and possibly a cooling trend, but adds an interesting twist:
“[Global warming] skeptics tend to leap forward,” said Mike Lockwood, a solar terrestrial physicist at the University of Southampton in the U.K.”
Ha ha ha.
“The Arctic will be ice-free in 5 years”
– Al Gore, December, 2008
Touche’
Speaking of that ice…
look at 2009 diverging from 2008 :
DMi—OSISAF
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icecover.uk.php
ROOS
http://arctic-roos.org/observations/satellite-data/sea-ice/ice-area-and-extent-in-arctic
I don’t see that rapid melt for them white-knuckling-it alarmist. What happens when you go a stage beyond white-knuckling-it? We just might find out!
Carsten Arnholm, Norway (15:18:52) : That “may” of His Highness is quite convenient…just in case.
Hey, Just Want Truth,
An excellent bit of satire. It reminds me of this (for obvious reasons) from a math professor from Harvard.
Enjoy::
http://nerds.unl.edu/pages/resource/elements.swf
A fine link, WestHoustonGeo. Thanks.
Just Want Truth… (17:20:50) :
philincalifornia (15:47:26) :
Hey, don’t take it personally. My hat is off to you–congratulations!! I know I won’t see my comments in Q of W. I’m sorta cardboard.
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Good quality, stiff cardboard though, if you didn’t know I was kidding there (and here !!). Ha ha ha.
WestHoustonGeo (18:58:44) :
Great link, thanks. It’s so nice to be among scientists in my online time. Thanks Anthony for that.
“[Global warming] skeptics tend to leap forward,” said Mike Lockwood, a solar terrestrial physicist at the University of Southampton in the U.K.”
I think a fair response would be that AGW promoters tend to suffer from projection, in more ways than one.
philincalifornia (20:33:20) :
Good quality, stiff cardboard—plied, crossgrain corrugation, the dullest you can find, and yet, all the while never lacking in intellectual inimblity. (is that a word?)
I find it difficult to believe that my inspired and brilliant comment “Al Gore is a poofter” was not a winner
‘Al Gore is a poofter’.
Is that ad homonem ?
OT but within this thread:
philincalifornia (15:47:26) :
Just Want Truth… (14:33:07) :
You may be right, but:
Too late! Ha Ha !!
Too late! Ho Ho !!
…. from the same comic opera, I do believe.
Not so. JWT (quoting Evan) was parodying “Pirates of Penzance”, Phil “Ruddigore”
philincalifornia: Found it. At 27:03 in the linked video, from Web 2.0 Summit 2008 (on the last day, so, 7th of Nov) – “The north polar ice cap […] 75-80% chance that during the summer months it will be completely and totally gone, within five years”
Professor Lockwood is a Solar Terrestrial physicist! Got it in one, head in clouds, feet on ground, & ne’r the twain shall meet!
As for Al Gore, remember Eric Von Daniken (not sure of the spelling). He was all the rage at school as a teenager, I even read one of his many books, fascinating stuff, all those aliens coming to earth & making all those weird & wonderful ancient things we admire today. It was all a load of *!%$£^, whoops the babel fish is playing up! I believe that will be Gore’s fate eventually, he will quielty slip away into retirement on his FAT pension paid for by all those gullible fools who believed him. Von Daniken claimed innocence by saying he never took any of the photos, or visited many or any of the sites, but merely interpreted what was put in front of him, & that is exactly what Gore will do. He will squirm his way out of it somehow, people like him always do!
Al Gore is going to sorely regret that statement.
Dear ana v:
You were very kind to our “eco friends”. Weren’t you tempted to leave out the “r” in “friends”? And thank you for your good comments. Sam
Troed Sångberg (01:06:09) :
Thanks for specifying the starting point, 27:03.
27:03 to 27:46 for those who can’t endure to listen to Al Gore for 47 minutes.
If you go back to the 27:00 point and start there, “One quick fact…” How does he know, with certainty, it’s been there 3 million years?
“Apocalyptic…. wildly disrupting….” More good news from Al Gore.
BTW, Al Gore could stand to lose a few pounds.
Disputin (00:58:48) :
Too late! Ha Ha !!
Too late! Ho Ho !!
…. from the same comic opera, I do believe.
Not so. JWT (quoting Evan) was parodying “Pirates of Penzance”, Phil “Ruddigore”
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I’m disputin’ that sir.
It’s from The Pirates of Penzance. They then go on to say:
“Here’s a first rate opportunity
To get married with impunity
And indulge in the felicity
Of unbounded domesticity”
…. and I didn’t have to Google that either !! Amazing what you can remember from a Grammar School production, 37 years ago !!!
Troed Sångberg (01:06:09) :
Thanks for that video. Perhaps there are even earlier ones. You would think he would have the sense to refer to a summer timeframe, rather than a winter date ?? Well you would wouldn’t you ??
The one I referred to was a speech he made in Germany. He was in some kind of museum with a big dinosaur skeleton in the background.
Either way, we’re all agreed on 2013 for the big pool party at the North Pole. I’ll bring the margaritas.
philincalifornia (07:45:34) :
By God you’re right, Sir! My apologies. I was conflating the “Ghosts’ High Noon” with the chorus of fiends from “The Sorcerer”. Sorry. (Now I’ll get off this thread).
I agree with Just Want Truth. The take off on the song from the Pirates of Penzance deserves special recognition. Very clever evanmjones. Too bad Gilbert and Sullivan are not around to do an opera about algore. I’d pay good money to see that.
Big problem coming up –
Watching the sea ice cover in the Arctic on AMSRE, today 13/5/09 the sea ice in Hudson Bay, western Greenland, as well as other places, is diminishing as it should, seeing it is half way through the NH spring thaw.
The problem is that now we should see the Warmistas coming out in droves, predicting that AGW is further advanced, the Greenland ice cap is melting, the MSM will have alarmist articles and special ‘science’ articles to keep the pot boiling and papers selling. Al Gore must be about to make another prediction – no summer ice at the North Pole within 5 years.
The Catlin expedition should add to the alarmism, after they get bailed out/rescued from all that “melting ice” and returned home to Aunty BBC.
Of course watching the sea ice cover in the Antarctic on AMSRE, shows the growth of the sea ice is amazing, and we probably won’t hear about the Antarctic until next year when a bit more ice calves off one or more of the glaciers, or the Wilkins Ice Shelf cracks off a couple of kilometres.
A couple of questions [snip]. It might help to move the climate change debate forward if you could explain how the exponential increase in human population from 1 billion in 1800 to almost 7 billion today – with corresponding exponential increases in the release of previously sequestered carbon (ie burning wood, coal, oil and natural gas) – could NOT have had a measurable impact on the global environment.
Precisely what global mechanism(s) is/are offsetting the increased human activity ? And can human population, and its associated energy consuption, continue increasing in this way into the future without impacting the global environment in any way ?
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