The 12 Days of Global Warming

Courtesy of Minnesotans for Global Warming, this entertaining video for today. Merry Christmas everyone, stay warm!

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Pete
December 25, 2008 6:49 pm

Ed Scott (15:20:28) :
Thom Hartman is pretty sure of himself that the snow in Oregon is consistent with Global warming because the large scale melting of ice puts more moisture in the air which can then fall as snow.
It’s amazing how he can make such a leap of certainty within a complex system.

Robert Bateman
December 25, 2008 8:21 pm

Global Cooling brought on by a comatose Sun for 40 years out to be enough to lower Sea Levels to dry up the Suez and Panama Canals.
Why else would a tough plant like a Lily not grow?

Kum Dollison
December 25, 2008 8:24 pm

I can’t get 1998, 1999, and 2000 out of my head. The CO2 content of the atmosphere increased a whopping 2.90 ppm, or so (depending on how you measure it,) in 1998.
In 1999 the La Nina started up and it got considerably cooler. The CO2 component only increased about 110 ppm.
Now comes Jan 2000 thru Jan 2001, an even Cooler year, and the CO2 addition to the atmosphere Increased to the tune of 2.24 ppm. This is above the average of the last ten years of about 1.90 ppm.
This bounce-back phenomenon plays out consistently over the period that’s covered by satellite data. The first year gets a Big Decrease in the rate of growth, and the following year gets a make-up bounce (even if it’s a cooler year). The three years averaged, together, come close to the overall trend.
This seems like it almost has to be a factor of how fast the Oceans can “absorb”/reabsorb CO2. BUT, that action where the CO2 in the atmosphere makes an Above-Average jump on the Coolest year is fascinating. Any Ideas?

Ron de Haan
December 25, 2008 8:25 pm

Twelve days of Global Warming!
Have a look at this map: http://www.seablogger.com/?p=12485
Half the US covered by snow, coast to coast!

Kum Dollison
December 25, 2008 8:26 pm
Gerard
December 25, 2008 8:43 pm

The Australian cricket teamis struggling now. It must be global warming!

Sean
December 25, 2008 8:58 pm

Happy holidays!

Patricia
December 25, 2008 10:03 pm

Bruce asked:
Are they insane?
That’s a rhetorical question, right?

anna v
December 26, 2008 12:32 am

Kum Dollison (20:24:26) :
This seems like it almost has to be a factor of how fast the Oceans can “absorb”/reabsorb CO2. BUT, that action where the CO2 in the atmosphere makes an Above-Average jump on the Coolest year is fascinating. Any Ideas?
We’ve been through this in the thread http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/12/17/the-co2-temperature-link/ , the CO2 Temperature link.
See the second figure.
What you say is there, but do not forget that Mauna Loa is sitting in a volcano, and from what I have heard they have a “volcano adjustement”, subtract what they think the volcano is contributing. Since it also is on in a wider region/arch of a lot of volcanic activity, maybe they did not correct enough, they did not learn that downwind or upwind some vent vented. There is very bad policing of CO2 sources and sinks. The new satellite will solve this I am sure, as AIRS only measures CO2 from 5000 meters and anyway starts after september 2002.
The specific jump may be statistical variation.
Speculations:
It may also reflect what a lot of people are saying: that temperature globally averaged has no meaning, One would need the local to Mauna Loa average temperature to make any real sense. Maybe for that year undersea vents heated the water and also sent up CO2 locally and thus the variation you observe is not statistical but systematic, of using two different types of data sets, global on the temperature side and local on the Mauna Loa CO2 side. In other words, if we had a corresponding globally averaged CO2 value there might be much less of a jump.

MA
December 26, 2008 2:39 am

Patricia. No. I can’t see that the question is rhetorical because it was afinal commeent to arguments which you totally omitted in your reply. I wonder why you totally omits the arguments and criticize a final adequate comment? Isn’t that rhetorical?
(BTW, I don’t want to participate in meta debate, so you’d better go right on the crucial and main stuff in Bruce’s comment if you are going to post one more comment here on this. Of course I will otherwise not take notice.)

MA
December 26, 2008 2:47 am

Patricia. About the word insane. That’s fair to say about those who blame mankind for temperature change if we now have temperature fluctuations in the same way or less dramatic than we had before.
I would use the word swindlers or deceivers, but that isn’t more nice to the AGW “scientists” who do promote the AGW than to say they are insane.

December 26, 2008 5:32 am

OT, has anyone seen this article
http://green.sympatico.msn.ca/article.aspx?cp-documentid=775785
Being from Alberta, Canada, home of the oilsands, if Quebec (home of seperatists who want to leave Canada) does not want our oil, that is just fine with me. They can buy it from terrorist harboring nations from the middle east like everyone else. We can sell our out to the USA where it is appreciated.

RICH
December 26, 2008 5:41 am

Any naughty person who gets a lump of coal in their stocking next Christmas, will also receive an Obama TAX on that lump of coal.
Better be good… for the planets sake!

December 26, 2008 7:30 am

Global temperature vs Magnetic North Pole drift correlation
http://www.vukcevic.co.uk/GTvsMNP.gif
http://www.vukcevic.co.uk link GTvsMNP

December 26, 2008 10:45 am

Appeal for a map of the Magnetic North Pole drift
with higher resolution and more details than the one shown on
http://www.vukcevic.co.uk/GTvsMNP.gif
Please either post a web location or email to: vukcevicuATyahoo.com

December 26, 2008 12:56 pm

Thanks for the post!!
I hope everyone has a Happy New Year!!
And May All Your Globes Be Warmed!!!

December 26, 2008 6:21 pm

http://ericlightborn.wordpress.com/2008/12/23/global-warming-politi-science-or-fact/
I am with you but this blog here is about addressing the fact that some STILL think climate change is not real or a hoax or liberal agenda. We have a lot of work to do if you are serious about cleaning up the environment and part of the clean up job is an information clean up job.

Jeff Alberts
December 26, 2008 7:24 pm

Robert Bateman (10:52:19) :
Actually, if all AGW happens to accomplish is that we stop wasting energy as if tomorrow will never come, I’d be happy with that.

Then why are you using a computer? It’s a waste of energy.

bucko36
December 26, 2008 8:03 pm

I sent an e-mail today to the Editor of the Seattle Times Newspaper after reading their “Earthweek” article that was published in todays edition.
To “Whom it May Concern” or to those, who it may “Be of Interest”.
After reading the 12/26/08, Article “Earthweek” section in the Seattle Times Newspaper; I question the sanity of the author of the “Climate change now” subparagraph, text Quoted as Follows:
(Scientists gathering in San Francisco were told that the United States could suffer the effects of abrupt climate change within decades–far sooner than warnings issued just a year ago. Using data not available to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), researchers from the U.S. Geological Survey, Columbia University and other institutions factored in faster than-expected loss of sea ice, rising sea levels and near permanent drought developing in the American Southwest. “It appears this has already begun,” the researchers told the American Geophysical Union. They pointed out that some projections of the impact of climate change issued by the IPCC in November 2007 have proved to be too conservative.)
What a bunch of CRAP!!!!!!!
I guess the real question should be: “How can anyone with “half a mind” be ignorant enough to believe it????”
Later on in, the same article out of nowhere; the author “Highlighted” the fact, that yesterday it was +111F. Degree’s temp. in Nullagine, W. Australia. (Not the record for Australia, but of course, it is summer down there and it does get hot in the “Outback”. I have been there!)
WHO MAKE’s THIS CRAP UP?????
The hottest day in Australia was 128F Degree’s in Cloncurry, Queensland on Jan 16th, “1889”, a 110 years ago!!!!
(SEE “LINKS” A & B BELOW for “World” and US “States” Record Temps and Dates) “Note” the by State year of record temps for each state. Any questions come to your mind? “Please note the years of record!”
Question for all: Does the “The World’s highest recorded Temperatures” and the “dates/locations” they occurred, raise any Questions” in any ones “mind”, but “mine”?
A.) Worlds recorded Highest Temperatures: (Location/”DATE”/Temperature) “Please check the year of record!”
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001375.html
B.) US, by STATE recorded High Temperatures: (By State/Temperature/”DATE”) “Please check the year of record!”
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001416.html
“Do the years raise any questions of doubt”, anyone????
A Global Warming Skeptic!!!!!
(Name and Address included in e-mail)

December 26, 2008 10:09 pm

The oceans are going to boil, people!!! Runaway AGW! The Venus Effect!
That’s got to affect the price of beer, I’m positive of that.

December 28, 2008 6:09 am

Yet another disaster in the making: click

Garacka
December 29, 2008 12:01 pm

bucko36 (20:03:50)
Interesting U.S. State (w/DC) High Temperature numbers from 1880’s through the 1990’s. Before 1940, there were 35 highs and after 1940, there were 16 highs.
Don’t the pre-1940’s numbers need to be adjusted downward to comply with the Hansonian method or have they already been?

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