UAH satellite derived global anomaly out – up a bit

Like RSS, UAH lower troposphere global temperature anomaly also went up in November, which was to be expected:

2008 10 0.166

2008 11 0.254

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Power Engineer
December 8, 2008 8:04 am

i would have liked to have seen it go down a bit…but at least its not the deadly TWO DEGREES!!! (scary music)…
btw, has anyone seen the discovery channel lately? every other commercial is one of those stupid reality commercials and lets not forget the hour long special they have on tonight called…wait for it….”hot planet.” starring none other than our own james hansen (pictures of earth on fire -litterally- included)…..it makes me mad to think they can get away with this unmitigated trash.

December 8, 2008 8:05 am

Just to repeat my earlier comment which didn’t have a home, now there’s a better place for it: This month is very significant: UAH now has 30 years of data, so Happy Birthday UAH!.
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/uah/plot/uah/trend
The linear trend over that time is 0.38K, or 0.13K/decade, 1.3K/century.
I’m looking forward to next month when RSS also has 30 years of data, because that gives me a full 30 years of overlapping data to construct WTI.

Chris Schoneveld
December 8, 2008 8:17 am

Anthony,
Why do you say “which was to be expected”?
During November Europe had a lot of early snow and Australia had even snow in their summer. Where was the unseasonable warmer weather to compensate for all this?

Flanagan
December 8, 2008 8:31 am

Chris: I think he said that because RSS temperatures have been going up recently. Concerning your other question: Russia and many parts of the NH had a really hot November. The NH anomaly is very positive, the SH one being much smaller.

stophotair
December 8, 2008 8:43 am

Uhhhh…try looking at Eastern Europe, Russia and Siberia.
It was very warm there.

Patrick Henry
December 8, 2008 9:03 am

Paul Clark,
It would be great feature if your (awesome) site would also provide a linear equation to go with the OLS fit, or at least a slope. I link to your graphs all the time.

JimB
December 8, 2008 9:04 am

“…it makes me mad to think they can get away with this unmitigated trash.”
Why?…religion’s been doing this since the dawn of….well…religion.
JimB

crosspatch
December 8, 2008 9:05 am

It was expected because RSS was also up slightly for November. So we see UAH global anomaly at about a quarter of a degree above the average. I am going to go out on a limb and say that we will see pretty much the same as we saw with UAH … cooling in the Northern Hemisphere and warming in the Southern with North America cooling from last month.

December 8, 2008 9:05 am

Not to mention Canada was very warm. See: http://www.agr.gc.ca/pfra/drought/maps/nl_td08_11e.pdf

Sean Ogilvie
December 8, 2008 9:11 am

Let’s face it, November was brutally hot!!!!! *
If you take the January – November average from 1979 – 2008 it was the 18th hottest year in 4.5 billion year history of the world (OK just in the last 30 years). I’m pretty sure we’re all going to die (I’m even more confident about this statement).
I wonder what NASA will claim. Hopefully they will be more careful this month but I bet you they will claim another big difference even when adjusting for the base period.
* Yes I am being sarcastic.

crosspatch
December 8, 2008 9:18 am

Maybe I misread the UAH data. Looks like RSS warmed in both hemispheres slightly in November.

crosspatch
December 8, 2008 9:18 am

Argh … I mean maybe I misread the RSS data, Looks like UAH warmed in both.

Kip
December 8, 2008 9:26 am

gloabl should be global.

John S.
December 8, 2008 9:32 am

A caveat seems in order for assuming that 30-yr trends have particular significance, just because that is the standard period for climatic “norms.” In fact, they–along with all sub-centennial trends– vary much too much to provide any reliable indication of future temperatures. It can be shown analytically that the linear trend given by regression is no more than a crude band-pass filter, whose output lags multidecadal oscillations by several years and has rather undesirable amplitude response characteristics.

Richard M
December 8, 2008 9:49 am

November was very warm over most of the western US. However, December has become much more seasonable.

Richard Sharpe
December 8, 2008 9:54 am

Stophotair says:

Uhhhh…try looking at Eastern Europe, Russia and Siberia.
It was very warm there.

So, was that 20C, 30C? How hot exactly?

J. Peden
December 8, 2008 9:57 am

I’d think a mere 1.3K/century increase in global atmospheric temp., according to the only fairly reliable way to measure temperatures, should be hailed as “sustainable” – that is, praised as reassuring – instead of disasterized, especially as compared to lesser rates of temp. rise, which might herald a turn toward Global Cooling, which itself would surely produce a real disaster to living things. In fact, for a mere $10 billion I will assemble a bunch of scientists who will convince Journalists that this is exactly what we want to see!
h/t woodfortrees

Chris
December 8, 2008 10:03 am

HadSST2 for November is interesting. SH sea temperature anomalies have dipped back below the average for the year so far, an average that was already the coldest since 1996 by some way.
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/hadsst2sh.txt
NH anomalies have continued to drop too, by ~0.1C a month in the last two months.
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/hadsst2nh.txt
Globally, SST anomalies were just +0.228 for November
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/hadsst2gl.txt
[baseline = 1961-1990 for all anomalies]
Interesting questions:
(1) why does the land appear to have warmed while the oceans have cooled?
(2) why does UAH show warming over the oceans (by 0.09C globally) while ocean surface temperatures have cooled?
http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/t2lt/uahncdc.lt
I’m asking these questions somewhat rhetorically as I already have an opinion on the answers (partly involving the -ve PDO and mechanisms by which it could achieve cooling). But thought I’d just throw these ideas into the mix for now anyway. Don’t really have much time at the moment to get deeper into this……
Note: for graphs see
http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadsst2/diagnostics/index.html

December 8, 2008 10:14 am

Warm in Siberia? I think that is really funny for some reason.

An Inquirer
December 8, 2008 10:31 am

Chris,
UAH has a website (http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/execute.csh?amsutemps+001) on which you can track daily temperatures for the lower troposphere. Throughout November, the daily tracking showed that the November temperature was doing to be up. So the UAH release was quite expected.

December 8, 2008 10:56 am
Paddy
December 8, 2008 11:14 am

The Discovery Channel will respond to viewer input just like the rest of the media. What is needed is an e-mail campaign that challenges their propaganda with real science.

Chris
December 8, 2008 11:34 am

Note: “An Inquirer” was responding to the earlier Chris (“Chris Schoneveld”).
The question I’m interested in concerns divergence between Hadley SST anomalies (down ~0.1C in November) and UAH Satellite-derived lower troposphere temps over the oceans (up ~0.1C in November) and land, and what this might suggest about whether the UAH jump in temps represents (on a monthly scale) a global warming, or a global heat loss.

Chris Schoneveld
December 8, 2008 12:18 pm

An Inquirer,
Thanks for that link.

Novoburgo
December 8, 2008 12:20 pm

Russ (10:14:20) :
Warm in Siberia? I think that is really funny for some reason.
FYI: Verhojansk temp per Wx Underground -60F (as of 13:00EST)

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