From the Sydney Morning Herald I ask: is there anything that global warming climate change can’t do? – Anthony
Forget global warming – the latest problem is global cooling.
Conservation group WWF has blamed climate change for the coldest August in Sydney for more than 60 years.
The freezing temperatures are proof of the urgent need to cut carbon pollution, according to WWF development and sustainability program manager Paul Toni.
“We can expect more extremes in climate,” Mr Toni said.
He said climate records had tumbled over the past year.
Australia had its driest May on record, Perth had its wettest April on record, and Tasmania recorded its hottest ever temperature, according to Mr Toni.
He said climate extremes were affecting southern Australia in particular.
“This is consistent with climate modelling showing the southern states will feel the effects of climate change most severely,” he said.
Mr Toni said if action was not taken, more volatile weather would be on the radar.
Gosh, Mr. Toni must be right, because, well, look, it “snowed” in Kenya last night, or at least that is what they call it in “The Nation”. See their report.
h/t to Carsten Arnholm
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This is a rhetorical question, Anthony. There’s nothing that climate change isn’t responsible for. It’s a catch all, which makes any skeptics’ views just paid interference at the hands of ExxonMobilChevronTexacoBPTotalPhillipsetal.
Snow in Kenya ….?
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/466820/-/tkb4rf/-/index.html
Snow in Kenya seems on topic for this story, or what?
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/466820/-/tkb4rf/-/index.html
Freezing temperatures are proof of global warming!! Oh dear me, what is it going to take? Seems that even another Ice Age will be the fault of dreaded CO2.
“This is consistent with climate modelling showing the southern states will feel the effects of climate change most severely,” he said. — Erm- yes but that was warming not cooling I believe.
LOL, that’s all I can do. Wow, and I thought I was poorly educated and had low intelligence. CO2 is causing record cold now!!!
Many people noticed about 3 years ago that Global Warming was slowly morphing into Climate Change. As with everything else concerning “climate” this new label is problematic. For a decade, we’ve been lectured that Climate and Weather are different. According to many experts the baseline for Climate is 30 years. This baseline creates several problems for them in that they cannot use events with a shorter time span. The only parameter that they can use therefore is temperature.
Austrailian Climate Experts seem to have damned the torpedoes and have gone full bore into the “Climate Change” arena. And why not? They’ve had just as many problems with cold winters as they’ve had with drought. Global Warming probably doesn’t hold much water for farmers who have seen crops damaged due to frosts and parched earth.
The AGW Alarmists have lost control of thier narrative.
I made a formal complaint to WWF – dont expect Ill get any response
gee these alarmists must feel like their is a huge conspiracy with the environment as it keeps conspiring against them
It’s more than 20 degrees colder in Enterprise than last year and last month. It has been that way for the last 3 weeks, especially at night. The old time loggers appear to be correct. Along with the bats, bugs, and trees. Old man winter is here and will be colder than a witch’s you-know-what.
If global warming causes cooling, will global cooling cause warming? Great! So I’ll be here in my cold house tapping my fingers waiting for that warmth.
As the temperatures fall, Mauna Loa numbers continue march upwards.
its hail.. dont think it isvery uncommon.
Just once, I would like to see a prediction in advance. What kind of winter will we have? We always hear (after the fact) that the models predicted this would happen. What about before the fact?
Of course, if you predict every possible outcome, then one prediction has to be right, sweep the rest under the rug. You can also set the error bands wide enough that anything fits.
That’s hardly science.
Anthony,
We have satellite temperature data for northern and southern hemisphere. I wonder if there is a way to divide the earth into three temperature records, north, south and central? I have a feeling that a graph like that would yield interesting results.
Record low temperatures in Eureka, California, Eugene, Oregon, and across the Mountain West in the last two days. Many record-low-maximum numbers in the Northern Rockies were 5, 6, 7, 8, and even 9 degrees below previous records.
On the other hand, the “snow” in Kenya is pretty clearly hail. Maybe that part of this story could be edited, Anthony? It is better, in our ongoing conversation with the warmists, not to exaggerate on our side of things.
REPLY: The “snow” is not my word, but what the news article it is linked to says. So I edited to make that a bit clearer. – Anthony
The hoaxers would be better off to just give it up. Before long, everyone on the planet will realize “pay more in taxes and government will pretend to control the weather” is what is really going on.
In the end, the sun will win.
Well, I think this is a natural move for the AGW crowd. Since the idea of runaway global warming is unraveling before their eyes they are shifting to ‘Climate Chaos’ as the justification for their draconian efforts to impose uniformitarianism on the planet’s climate system.
‘Global Warming’ to ‘Climate Change’ to ‘Climate Chaos’ is where they are headed. I expect to see more of this and within the month they will have college students parading around with signs saying “STOP CLIMATE CHAOS” instead of “STOP CLIMATE CHANGE”.
ScienceDaily has another article that is intended to lend support for the ‘Tipping point’ theory. I think they intended to imply that the current ‘tipping point’ danger is due to human CO2, but which, in actuality, ends up acknowledging not only is the past climate is not uniformitarian, but that it is chaotic in nature, exhibiting sudden changes in temperature. The end result is it undercuts the claims that late 20th century warming is ‘unprecedented’. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080902075735.htm
Well, the more we give socialist governments our hard earned money as taxes. The harder they will think up more and more inventive ways of spending it, then demanding more….. It’s our own fault really.
After all, it hasn’t warmed for a decade and doesn’t look like warming for another…. Yet the political acceptance for the Theory of AGW grows even more stronger…. See, it has nothing to do with climate.
Maybe I’m being pessimistic…. But I think they’re laughing at us.
They are nothing if not consistent. For years now the focus has gradually shifted to emphasize weather extremes. They would also make George Orwell proud in their ability to change history. Before this year the focus was all about warming; now they’ve created a cushion by allowing that we’ll have some slight cooling for the next decade. And let us not forget that it is the IPCC. But at some point, all those models showing projected warming will come up against cold (very cold) hard reality after a couple decades of persistent cooling.
And remember, global warming isn’t done, it’s just on hold. It’s being masked by other weather related phenomenon. So no matter what happens, even if we have many years of a cooling trend, sooner or later, you will get a warming trend, and proof, once again, that we are destroying the planet.
BTW, another term for such “snow” is graupel (also commonly spelled grauple). Quite common when temps are around the freezing point; sometimes precedes real snowfall. We had one episode last winter here in the Buffalo area where the precip kept alternating between snow, graupel, and ice – a real bear to shovel.
Mike B.,
I encourage you to do it yourself. I did. And, it is very interesting. Go to the RSS ftp site that can be found on Anthony’s resource page (look above in the masthead). Download the data into excel and graph your heart out.
Supposedly attributed to Abraham Lincoln: “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.” I think eventually all of the people are going to wise up about global warming; that it is a big sham and lie.
Does anyone have links where WWF, Greenpeace, Sierra Club, Audabon Society, etc. are exposed? They portray themselves as champions of warm fuzzy animals, but how do they REALLY spend all those dues and donations? Hefty salaries, jet setting to lectures and seminars, as well as protecting whales from the decks of luxury, auxiliary powered sail boats?
I confess, I was suckered by them back in the day fifteen years or so ago. Now my money goes to hunting oriented conservation like Ducks Unlimited and Missouri Conservation. Not sure they aren’t selling out now too. What’s really the right thing to do?!?!
Will the last honest person leaving the building please turn out the lights?
^Sonic frog.
So we’re killing the planet. What you gonna do about it?
Pray? Not use your car? “Go Green!?” Drive a hybrid? Do a rain dance?
CO2, in millions of years prior, and now…was, is, and never will be the driver of climate.
If you’re guilty do something. But please don’t brainwash other vulnerable, ignorant people into worrying about something they can’t change.
If you were wise, you’d put your mind to other concerns. Like helping the poor, for instance. I think that’s better than willing a problem away.
But may be I’m wrong…and you’re absolutely right. Your paranoia might be the savior of our planet one day. Or a ridiculous waste of time.
Unless they’ve changed when I wasn’t looking (entirely possible), the Nature Conservancy always took a pretty good, capitalistic way of environmentalism. They purchase land with the money you give, and take it off the market from development. They’ve bought a lot of land, all over the world, and turned it into buffer zones. A pretty good plan, to me, and IMO are the only one of the major ‘environmentalist’ groups that isn’t ‘watermelon’.
I finally understand the cycle. Man made CO2 raises temperature which causes climate change and then climate chaos and then cooling so that humans must burn more fossil fuels to stay warm which increases the CO2 in the atmosphere which raises the temperature which causes climate change then climate chaos and then cooling so that humans must burn more fossil fuels to stay warm which increases……..