Build It, And The Wind Won’t Come

From Robert Bryce’s Substack

Robert Bryce

Weather-dependent generation sources are…weather dependent: Last year, despite adding 6.2 GW of new capacity, U.S. wind production dropped by 2.1%.

Damaged wind turbines at the Punta Lima wind project, Naguabo, Puerto Rico, 2018. Photo: Wikipedia.
Damaged wind turbines at the Punta Lima wind project, Naguabo, Puerto Rico, 2018. Photo: Wikipedia.

Three years ago, in the wake of Winter Storm Uri, the alt-energy lobby and their many allies in the media made sure not to blame wind energy for the Texas blackouts. The American Clean Power Association (2021 revenue: $32.1 million) declared frozen wind turbines “did not cause the Texas power outages” because they were “not the primary cause of the blackouts. Most of the power that went offline was powered by gas or coal.”

NPR parroted that line, claiming, “Blaming wind and solar is a political move.” The Texas Tribune said it was wrong to blame alt-energy after Winter Storm Uri because “wind power was expected to make up only a fraction of what the state had planned for during the winter.” The outlet also quoted one academic who said that natural gas was “failing in the most spectacular fashion right now.” Texas Tribune went on to explain, “Only 7% of ERCOT’s forecasted winter capacity, or 6 gigawatts, was expected to come from various wind power sources across the state.”

In other words, there was no reason to expect the 33 GW of wind capacity that Texas had to deliver because, you know, no one expected wind energy to produce much power. Expectations? Mr. October? Playoff Jamal? Who needs them?

But what happens when you build massive amounts of wind energy capacity and it doesn’t deliver — not for a day or a week, but for six months, or even an entire year? That question is germane because, on Wednesday, the Energy Information Administration published a report showing that U.S. wind energy production declined by 2.1% last year. Even more shocking: that decline occurred even though the wind sector added 6.2 GW of new capacity!

A hat tip to fellow Substack writer Roger Pielke Jr., who pithily noted on Twitter yesterday, “Imagine if the U.S. built 6.2 GW new capacity in nuclear power plants and after starting them up, overall U.S. electricity generation went down. That’d be a problem, right?”

Um, yes. It would. And the EIA made that point in its usual dry language. “Generation from wind turbines decreased for the first time since the mid-1990s in 2023 despite the addition of 6.2 GW of new wind capacity last year,” the agency reported. The EIA also explained that the capacity factor for America’s wind energy fleet, also known as the average utilization rate, “fell to an eight-year low of 33.5%.” That compares to 35.9% capacity factor in 2022 which was the all-time high. The report continued, “Lower wind speeds than normal affected wind generation in 2023, especially during the first half of the year when wind generation dropped by 14% compared with the same period in 2022.”

Read that again. For half of last year, wind generation was down by a whopping 14% due to lower wind speeds. Imagine if that wind drought continued for an entire year. That’s certainly possible. Recall that last summer, the North American Electric Reliability Corporation warned that U.S. generation capacity “is increasingly characterized as one that is sensitive to extreme, widespread, and long duration temperatures as well as wind and solar droughts.”

According to Bloomberg New Energy Finance, corporate investment in wind energy between 2004 and 2022 totaled some $278 billion. In addition, according to data from the Treasury Department, the U.S. government spent more than $30 billion on the production tax credit over that same period. Thus, over the last two decades, the U.S. has spent more than $300 billion building 150 GW of wind capacity that has gobbled up massive amounts of land, garnered enormous (and bitter) opposition from rural Americans, and hasn’t gotten more efficient over time.

Wednesday’s EIA report is a stark reminder that all of that generation capacity is subject to the vagaries of the wind. Imagine if the U.S. had spent that same $300 billion on a weather-resilient form of generation, like, say, nuclear power. That’s relevant because Unit 4 at Plant Vogtle in Georgia came online on Monday. With that same $300 billion, the U.S. could have built 20, 30, or maybe even 40 GW of new nuclear reactors with a 92% capacity factor that wouldn’t rely on the whims of the wind. In addition, those dozens of reactors would have required a tiny fraction of the land now covered by thousands of viewshed-destroying, bat-and-bird-killing wind turbines.

If climate change means we will face more extreme weather in the years ahead — hotter, colder, and/or more severe temperatures for extended periods — it’s Total Bonkers CrazytownTM to make our electric grid dependent on the weather. But by lavishing staggering amounts of money on wind and solar energy, and in many cases, mandating wind and solar, that’s precisely what we are doing.

While chasing Moby Dick, Captain Ahab uttered a line that seems to fit the current moment: “Were I the wind, I’d blow no more on such a wicked, miserable world.”

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Tom Halla
May 1, 2024 2:11 pm

The issue with wind and solar is diverted investment. Building unreliable “sources” that require backup depending on the weather is the problem.

gezza1298
Reply to  Tom Halla
May 2, 2024 11:43 am

I think the issue with wind and solar is that it is a waste of money.

Bryan A
May 1, 2024 2:29 pm

$300 billion, the U.S. could have built 20, 30, or maybe even 40 GW of new nuclear reactors with a 92% capacity factor that wouldn’t rely on the whims of the wind. In addition, those dozens of reactors would have required a tiny fraction of the land now covered by thousands of viewshed-destroying, bat-and-bird-killing wind turbines.

Not only that but the Nuclear Generators would last up to 60 years, possibly longer, without needing replacement at 20 year intervals and increased future pricing

Mr.
May 1, 2024 2:31 pm

They are nothing more than monuments to gormless hubris, irrationality, fantasy and ultimately abject idiocy.

And the idiots who progressed this idiocy can’t say they weren’t told it was idiocy at every stage of the procession.

But here we are . . .

Reply to  Mr.
May 1, 2024 3:08 pm

I wonder how many people have volunteered to live next to a wind turbine? Not little ones like on a farm- but the big ones. Same for solar “farms”.

Editor
Reply to  Mr.
May 1, 2024 5:39 pm

Sorry, but I have to disagree with you. They really are much more than monuments to those mild attributes of gormless hubris, etc, that you list. They are the creations of greedy psychopaths and sociopaths who have developed a toxic political environment in pursuit of their own wealth at the cost of everyone else. I’m talking about those who were already billionaires and who exploited a scheme to reap yet more billions from the public purse in the form of subsidies for intermittent unworkable energy, namely wind and solar. Maurice Strong kicked it off, in pursuit of greater power and fortune for himself and for the UN, but he was quickly overtaken by wealthier and more powerful crooks who could see an endless flow of public money into their own pockets. Maurice Strong has gone, thank goodness, but his replacements in crime remain. As others have put it:

Never forgive. Never forget. Prosecute.

Mr.
Reply to  Mike Jonas
May 1, 2024 7:25 pm

Yes, didn’t Maurice Strong finish his days on the run in exile in China having embezzled $900k in Canada?

Small beer in the renewables scam these days.

hdhoese
May 1, 2024 2:54 pm

We survived the 2021 Texas freeze lack of power, but fish on the nearby bay didn’t do so well. Such fish killing freezes from late December through mid-February have been well traced for centuries, especially during the 19th and 20th with minor ones still causing mortality more common. We tried renewables on a much smaller scale four decades ago, produced such as fossils while understanding their limitations. Of course we knew about wind and sun many centuries before, just our non-indigenous myths now?

Reply to  hdhoese
May 2, 2024 9:29 pm

G’Day hdhoese

“…fish on the nearby bay didn’t do so well. Such fish killing freezes…”

Some years ago I tripped over a report on fish kill written by a chap who walked the beaches after a “Blue Norther” in the early 1900’s. A case of ‘watch where you put your feet’.

https://weather.com/science/weather-explainers/news/2019-01-15-blue-norther-arctic-cold-front-temperature-drop-plains

… gives a description of the 1911 event, with temperature drops. Chilling…..

Rud Istvan
May 1, 2024 3:24 pm

The folly of intermittent renewables exposed. The real danger isn’t annual decline— which just exposes the folly— it is its timing. A week dip to zero during a UK winter no wind very cold high pressure weather system would be catastrophic for the UK grid, and for UK citizens. Not a question of if, only when.

sherro01
Reply to  Rud Istvan
May 1, 2024 3:52 pm

Rud,
And the people who forced this intermittent supply on the population, knowing the problems and dangers and knowing safer alternatives, should face criminal charges of wilful murder. Geoff S

J Boles
May 1, 2024 3:47 pm

The looney greens think that the problem is that we are just not doing ENOUGH of it for it to get wings of its own and TAKE OFF as savvy investors swoop in and snatch up FREE ENERGY ideas from career bureaucrats who have never had a real job. Some private companies are just raking it in…billions in profits and you know the kickbacks are trickling down to green politicians, how do you think these folks are multimillionaires on gooberment salaries?

Bob
May 1, 2024 4:07 pm

This is all so stupid I can’t believe we have put up with it for so long. Time to put an end to it.

Ron
Reply to  Bob
May 2, 2024 6:12 am

Just wait a few more years until the mechanical breakdowns, blade deterioration and lower and lower output puts an enormous financial burden on the entire industry.

ferdberple
May 1, 2024 4:13 pm

The system is corrupt. Wind and solar developers get billions in handouts which they then kickback to political reelection campaigns and private foundations. All wrapped up in the name of saving the planet.

ferdberple
May 1, 2024 4:18 pm

Windmills and solar panels don’t produce enough surplus energy to build more windmills and solar panels. Instead more coal must be burned in China for every windmill and solar panel installed in the west. The law of unintended consequences. Better known as climate science playing at being engineers.

May 1, 2024 4:23 pm

Wind power generation is down? Blame Climate Change of course. (What else?)

“As carbon dioxide levels rise and the Earth’s poles warm, researchers are predicting a decline in the planet’s wind speeds. This ‘stilling’ could impact wind energy production…”

https://e360.yale.edu/features/global-stilling-is-climate-change-slowing-the-worlds-wind#:~:text=As%20carbon%20dioxide%20levels%20rise,much%20of%20the%20world's%20climate.

Reply to  David Pentland
May 1, 2024 7:17 pm

Increasing CO2 ppm causes the wind not to blow.
That means, we have to ban coal, and build more wind turbines to reduce CO2 and get our wind back.
Geez, solving global warming is really simple

Reply to  David Pentland
May 2, 2024 12:09 am

How can that be? We’re constantly told by Alarmists that Climate Change will cause greater storminess and instability.

May 1, 2024 4:43 pm

“Generation from wind turbines decreased for the first time since the mid-1990s in 2023 despite the addition of 6.2 GW of new wind capacity last year,”

One thing most engineers learn early on is that you cannot push on a piece of string to move an object. That is where wind energy ends up once the proportion of demand served approaches their inherent capacity factor. For US wind, the chart shows around 30% CF. So regions getting close to that level of penetration with WDGs are near their limit.

The glorious aspect of this in Australia is that households are buying rooftop systems to lower their energy cost and that is now eroding the capacity factors of the grid scale WDGs. The grid operator has a new term “economic offloading” to describe the estimated lost generation due to the wholesale price going negative. Rooftops do not get any time related price signal so keep pumping out power until the street voltage hits the limit then they back off. It has been so bad in WA and SA that the local operators have implemented plans to step up distribution voltage so rooftops reduce output to keep the whole system stable.

Once a network reaches the pushing on string stage, the only way to get more intermittent power into the grid is to store electrical energy and there is no low cost means of doing that.

This is from AEMO Q1 2024 report:

Relative to Q1 2023, new and commissioning grid-scale solar capacity offered additional availability of 245 MW and 179 MW respectively, while availability from existing generators reduced by 72 MW. With an 8 MW reduction in network curtailment, and an increase of 30 MW in offloading, grid-scale solar generation increased by a net 331 MW, year-on-year.

Wind availability increased relative to Q1 2023 by 151 MW due to newly connected facilities, and by 74 MW from capacity continuing its commissioning. Existing wind capacity saw a reduction of 51 MW in availability. With an additional 8 MW curtailment and 14 MW offloading of wind in this quarter, overall wind output increased by

151 MW, year-on-year.

https://aemo.com.au/-/media/files/major-publications/qed/2024/qed-q1-2024.pdf?la=en

This is the summer report when demand is high. The offloading is higher in autumn and spring.

Some sobering admissions in this video from someone trying to do the impossible of producing lower cost power from grid scale WDGs in Australia.:

GeorgeInSanDiego
Reply to  RickWill
May 2, 2024 6:30 am

WDG: Wholesale Distributed Generation
These discussions often devolve into an alphabet soup of obscure acronyms.

Greg Locock
May 1, 2024 5:21 pm

All the decent sites have been used up with old tech turbines. So the new bigger ones are built in places that are less suitable. Hence the capacity factor will tend to fall as you build more turbines.

May 1, 2024 5:24 pm

The real issue of spending 300 Billion dollars over 18 years is not electicity generation but the number 1 fact is that we only have about 70,000 windmills for that 300 billion and we will need over 600,000 to meet the US’s needs and the 2nd fact that we will need to spend 300 billion over the next 20-25 years to replace those 70,000 windmills due to replacement
That is unstainable

Reply to  Clintsallow
May 1, 2024 6:07 pm

That is unstainable

This article opens with three words “weather dependent generation”. The word “renewable” is not used in the article – a thoughtful article using apt description.. Comments above use this word “renewable” without any qualification. There are very few instances where the present solar and wind technology can be used in sustainable economic activity.

Something that is unsustainable is not renewable. That is the harsh lesson that Germany is slowly coming to realise as it flushes its economic might down the crapper. Both UK and Australia have already achieved that. Trump postponed the US economic decline for 4 years but Biden has it back on track with other western countries intent on moving back to the dark ages.

USA is also blessed with a wide mix of different jurisdictions that are not all bent on destroying their economies. All Climate Adaption™ refugees should be required to renounce any beliefs they have in the evil of CO2 as they enter their new State.

The word “renewable” no longer means what it was supposed to mean. Language has been corrupted.

Reply to  RickWill
May 1, 2024 6:52 pm

The World Meteorological Organization also redefined “climate” to mean only 30 years instead of the thousands to millions of years it meant before.

I guess that’s all the so-called climate models could hope to handle, and they haven’t even done a good job at that.

lyn roberts
May 1, 2024 7:53 pm

I find it astounding that our politicians have been convinced so well about wind and solar power that they are wasting taxpayers money, remember it is not their money, it is ours. Sometimes I think some of these so called smart people have never had a holiday by the seaside or gone sking in the winter an observed that the roof of the building next door is covered in snow, solar panels, mmmmm, maybe will not work very well when there is 6 inches or more snow on top. And have they ever lived near to the sea and noticed at night the wind seems to drop right off, of course not always. What is the saying follow the money, wonder how much has fallen into pollies pockets???

MarkW
May 1, 2024 8:34 pm

Nobody expects much power from wind during the winter?

In other words, those who are planning for us to have only wind and solar for our power sources, are planning on there being no power available during the winter?

May 1, 2024 9:07 pm

Rising temperatures result in decreased wind speeds due to a smaller temperature difference between polar regions and lower latitudes. So unless CO2 is the culprit and wind turbines really result in reduced atmospheric CO2 they are fighting a losing battle with natural forces.

https://pubs.aip.org/aip/jrse/article/2/5/052301/284534/Effects-of-global-warming-on-wind-energy

Reply to  Ollie
May 1, 2024 9:30 pm

Wind and solar generators add to CO2 global output. It is just that it gets shifted to mostly China. China already consumes more than half the world production of coal.

Germany just shut down its last solar panel manufacturer because the price of power from solar panels is so high that they cannot make solar panels using their own output. A solar panel would need to operate at rated output for at least 200 years to make them and the system needed to support them.

Huge economic damage has been done by comparing reliable generators and unreliable generators using the LCOE evaluation. Disregarding all the other elements needed to produce an on-demand system using wind and solar has created the current mess.

James Snook
May 2, 2024 1:00 am

There is also the question of performance drop with aging. Little hard data exists on this, but a decline of 1.5% was arrived it in one study. Assuming a conservative 1% per annum, the turbines that produced the150 TWH ten years ago will only produce 135TWH this year. The larger the fleet, the greater the new capacity needed just to stand still.

CampsieFellow
May 2, 2024 3:26 am

In addition, those dozens of reactors would have required a tiny fraction of the land now covered by thousands of viewshed-destroying, bat-and-bird-killing wind turbines.
Not to mention the area covered by the batteries needed to back it up.

Kevin R.
May 2, 2024 6:48 am

All of human progress has been to protect us from and rise above the vagaries of the elements.

The Greens will destroy all that and reduce us to the state of living like animals.

DFJ150
May 2, 2024 8:27 am

We need to position one (or several) of the loony eco-warriors adjacent to each functioning wind turbine. The vehement (but erroneous) proclamations they continuously expel should generate more that enough hot air to keep those raptor killers turning.

May 2, 2024 8:50 am

Story Tip

Interesting exchange of letters between Paul Homewood and Claire Coutinho (the UK Energy and Climate Change Secretary).

The first letter is here:

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2024/05/01/open-letter-to-claire-coutinho/

And the Secretary’s reply, and Homewoods rejoinder to it is here:

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2024/05/02/claire-coutinho-replies/

Bottom line: the UK Government, if it continues with its Net Zero plans, will be faced with an energy shortfall in 2035. A huge one.

Peak demand will be about 100GW. Dispatchable supply will be about 10GW. Maybe interconnects will deliver 20GW. They are building some more gas, a whole 5GW of it. In January or February 2035 there will be the usual week long wind calm. There may be 100GW of wind installed by then (up from 28GW at present), and that will deliver 10GW or less for at least a week. Solar will be doing nothing, it will be an evening. Add it up:

10GW nuclear, biomass, hydro
20GW interconnect (optimistic)
5GW gas
10GW wind (often lower than this in fact)
_____
45GW

There is going to be a week or ten days of this, with peak demand lasting several hours and supply as above. Where is the missing 55GW going to come from? This, bear in mind, is well over total current UK peak demand of about 45GW. That’s the scale of the problem with their proposed policies, they will end up with a shortage greater than the current UK peak demand.

They have no idea. They are babbling about hydrogen which is no way a contribution to a solution. And small nuclear, for which there are hopes but no plans.

There are, as Paul says, only two possible outcomes here. One is they abandon Net Zero in power generation and build 50GW+ of gas ASAP.

The other is blackouts. Plural. Nationwide, and requiring cold restart, which will take weeks. The end of the British economy as we know it.

Tell me this is wrong, and do it with numbers, where its going to come from. I can’t see where.

Sparta Nova 4
May 2, 2024 9:58 am

Maybe if they stopped blowing hot air….

May 2, 2024 1:47 pm

Regarding the failure of natural gas in TX in Feb 2021, NG was diverted to heat homes, which helped to explain some of the NG deficit. And, turning off power to gas pumps on the gas pipelines played a role, too.
However, NG completely saved the day. Note the graphic. At the far left, the spike in windpower just before as the front came in saw declines in NG and coal because that is how the system works. They are load following. When wind collapsed a few hours later, both NG and coal came right back up.
It is amazing what lies they tell. They really need to be punished severely.

TX-Feb-2021
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