New York's new Climate Change Museum

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Remember back in the boring old days, when science museums contained meticulously researched information about the distant past, such as the age of the dinosaurs, interesting mineral exhibits, or educational demonstrations of scientific principles?

All that is about to change, with the planned construction of New York’s new climate change museum – a museum dedicated to fantasy theories about things which might happen, if we accept the predictions of climate models, which have yet to demonstrate any predictive skill whatsoever.

According to Grist;

For many, climate change is not yet personal, but Miranda Massie is trying to change that. Massie is the executive director of the forthcoming Climate Museum in New York City, a project that seeks to make the impacts of and solutions to a changing climate intimate and tangible. The museum was chartered by the New York Board of Regents on July 20, which brings the project one step closer to the fabled red ribbon.

It’s a venture steeped with ambition — a word that has seen a lot of play in the climate space recently. In the run-up to the negotiations in Paris this December, the United Nations has framed countries’ carbon-cutting commitments in terms of their levels of ambition; diplomats and policymakers have termed the apparent lack of political will necessary for a 2C world the “ambition gap.” In climate policy, ambition is everything.

The museum, which Massie aims to launch in an interim space of 10,000 to 20,000 square feet within the next two years, will be the first of its kind in the United States. (Hong Kong is home to the small Jockey Club Museum of Climate Change.) Backing her up is a heavy-hitting team of advisors and trustees, including environmental, legal, and communications leaders from the likes of Columbia University, New York’s Environmental Justice Alliance, NYU’s Tisch, NRDC, the London Science Museum, the National Audubon Society, and Harvard’s Kennedy School. Danish-Icelandic installation artist Olafur Eliasson lent early visionary sketches for the museum. While most plans are preliminary, one of Massie’s hopes is for an initial pop-up installation on Governors Island next summer.

Read more: http://grist.org/climate-energy/move-over-moma-new-yorks-new-climate-change-museum-is-about-to-be-the-hottest-place-in-town/

What a wonderful outing for the kids – all the excitement of a trip to the big city, then a few hours wandering around the climate museum, filling their impressionable little brains with messages of despair, destroying all their hopes and dreams.

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Bloke down the pub
August 15, 2015 10:10 am

Why haven’t they built a museum for the alien invasion that’s coming next year? What, hadn’t you heard? Didn’t you get the memo?

MarkW
Reply to  Bloke down the pub
August 15, 2015 10:41 am

Hollywood already covered that.

HorshamBren
Reply to  MarkW
August 15, 2015 1:56 pm

… and true believers will be able to watch this on a state-of-the-art audio visual display!

Mike Bromley the Kurd
Reply to  Bloke down the pub
August 15, 2015 11:43 am

They hadn’t tweaked the weasel-word clause in the invasion model sufficiently, I’m afraid.

Reply to  Bloke down the pub
August 15, 2015 12:10 pm

I am going to quit my job, and take up permanent residence outside the museum, wearing a sandwich board that says “The End Isn’t Nigh”.
Just to make sure the absurdity is 100% complete.

Reply to  Menicholas
August 15, 2015 12:11 pm

Of course, on the back of it “No Need To Repent”.

Mike McMillan
Reply to  Menicholas
August 15, 2015 12:57 pm

Excellent.
Looking at Cthulhu up there menacing that rowboat, I’ve always wondered how something with glowing eyes could see.

Jit
Reply to  Menicholas
August 15, 2015 1:38 pm

Mike:
As I remember the ancient Greeks thought that we see due to some sort of rays emanating from our eyes – i.e. that sight was an active rather than passive process. Of course, that doesn’t really fit with being unable to see in a dark room…

SMC
Reply to  Menicholas
August 15, 2015 1:45 pm

Cthulhu is a god. Why wouldn’t he have glowing eyes? All the better to awe us mere mortals with their power and invincibility.

Gary
Reply to  Menicholas
August 15, 2015 2:49 pm

Actually, handing out broadsides with corrections to the errors that will be found inside is a good idea. Make them simple to understand, colorful, and accurate. Examples: model projections vs. measurements, bad temperature measuring stations, the failed predictions of CAGW. Be factual, polite, and friendly. It will drive them mad inside. Having a real location for skeptical education is a gift they really don’t want to be giving, but they never weren’t to bright about communication.

Steve from Rockwood
Reply to  Menicholas
August 15, 2015 3:33 pm

I will stop by to give you money. But not enough to make you happy.

Crispin in Waterloo but really in Yogyakarta
Reply to  Menicholas
August 16, 2015 5:37 am

Climate scientists have glowing eyes. They use them to see things that are not there. I am not sure if they are red.

Tom Johnson
Reply to  Menicholas
August 16, 2015 6:16 am

Mike,
It’s actually quite easy for something with glowing eyes to see……for I have observed the “Whitewood Lake Monster”. It was a cold, dark, rainy, fall night when I shut off the generator I was using while building my “back woods” cabin. The lake turned pitch black. I looked across the leafless black trees to the lake, and saw the monster. It was silently drifting along the shoreline, it’s glowing yellow eyes floating several feet above the water. With no sound, at all, it easily traversed the jagged shoreline, barely visible in the black night. It slowly approached my exposed shoreline point! Bravely I stood my ground to protect my treasured homestead!!!
It was……..a bass fisherman. He wore spectacles, with a small flashlight mounted on each bow. The flashlights were either low on batteries, or wired in series to preserve battery life. He steered the electric motor with his foot, so as not to bend down to move the tiller. The glowing “eyes” were to see. For with each cast, he would hold the lure up to the light to clean the weeds from the hook.

Reply to  Menicholas
August 16, 2015 7:34 am

Why settle for the lesser of two evils?
Vote
Cthulhu 2016

http://www.cthulhu.org/

littlepeaks
Reply to  Bloke down the pub
August 15, 2015 6:03 pm

Google the planet Nibiru. Coming to a planet near you soon.

SMC
Reply to  littlepeaks
August 15, 2015 6:49 pm

Ugh, talk about a bad conspiracy theory.

Man Bearpig
Reply to  littlepeaks
August 16, 2015 8:51 am

Yes SMC … the alarmists come here, drop a conspiracy theory then go somewhere else and make up rubbish saying we support conspiracy theories because of the the CT posts on here. Could be one of many that drop these bombs then run like hell. Too chicken to say anything they may end up tying themselves in knots .. e.g. David Appell the other data, what a laugh that was.

SMC
Reply to  littlepeaks
August 16, 2015 10:31 am

heh… I wish David Appell would show up again. It was hilarious the last time and I would love to break out the popcorn while he is dissected.

August 15, 2015 10:11 am

Oh so, I trust they will site it on what will become known as James Hansen Drive, predicted to be underwater before the building was commissioned..
As classic as the display at Kilauea Volcano, where human emissions are described as an ecological problem, then inside the visitors centre there was an estimation of Kilauea’s contribution.
Somebody at the National Park has a sense of humour.

Dahlquist
Reply to  john robertson
August 15, 2015 8:37 pm

TUESDAY, JULY 28, 2009
GRAMMA BONES
James Latimer Jones, our mentor, upon his death, has his ashes and spirit set free along with the bones of more than one hundred ancient Native American Indians brought from across the Southwest by Gramma Bones to Hasler Research Center for study by Inductively Coupled Plasma Atomic Emission Spectroscopy.
On the phone I can barely understand her, and must frequently ask her to repeat herself. It was something about analysis of zinc in human bones she wants. How much would it cost? Several labs had quoted her fifteen to twenty dollars for each sample and for only one element, zinc, by atomic absorption analysis and she could personally pay for 20 samples or so.
I ask this person, a student at San Diego State University working on her masters thesis, to visit us at the lab and explain for us what she is trying to accomplish. We’d show her our capabilities and the lab. I was guessing and hoping that being in the same room and being able to see her would help facilitate communication.
Our Director of Research, Dr. Chris Anderson, thinks it might be a good idea to just go ahead, do the work as a freebie, and get a paper out of it. Anything to show that our Inductively Coupled Plasma (ICP) actually works! Claude Veillon and Marvin Margoshes, two of the resident spectroscopy gods at the National Bureau of Standards (now NIST, National Institute of Standards and Technology) in their earlier publication (1), were thorough in their condemnation of ICP’s as being subject to severe interferences and having no real quantitative analytical utility whatever in their concluding statement.
On the appointed day, our receptionist Norma Hampel calls back to the lab to tell me Pauline Stedt has arrived. She appears to be in her leathery late sixties, has a stuffed briefcase in one hand and a cane in her right hand. We greet each other while I fumble about shaking her hand without removing her cane support. One side of her face is drooped and I understand why I have such difficulty understanding her speech.
Then as quickly, I can see how difficult it is for her. Every word she chooses is an effort for her to recall, and then form into intelligible sounds what it is she wants to convey about her project work. On the way to the conference room and library she drags the leg corresponding to the drooped side of her face.
When we’re settled in, she explains that she has a simple hypothesis for her masters thesis in physical anthropology. She wants to settle the ongoing tug of war the cultural and physical anthropologists had been fighting for decades. Each camp would claim that a burial site had been inhabited by either of the two major Southwest Native American groups, the Freemont (hunter-gatherers) or Anasazi (sedentary-agricultural).
She hypothesizes that the Freemont would have higher zinc levels in their bones being meat eaters, and that the Anazazi would have lower levels of zinc because they ate more plant material containing phytate which would complex zinc making it less available for absorption in the gut and to be sequestered in bone tissue. Nice simple hypothesis. All she has to do is try to prove it!
Pauline digs a plastic bag of individually wrapped bone fragments out of her briefcase and she unwraps a few of them. There are digits, wrist and ankle bones, rib fragments, vertebra. They are identified by a numbering system she has in her notebook. I ask about the ink used to identify them. It might contaminate the analysis results, I point out. We’ll have to have a sample of it, or of them, or remove it before analysis by dry grinding with non-contaminating carbide tools. Does she have any of the soil from which these bones were excavated? No, but some notes kept by the archaeologists. Red and yellow ochre was part of the burial dress of some.
“Can you get some?”
“Maybe.”
It looks like we might as well run all 28 elements we have in the spectrometer array because we surely will find a lot more than just the zinc she’s looking for. Other elements may have been carried in or out of the bone based on burial conditions, and long term interactions with the surrounding soil and moisture conditions. There goes the neat hypothesis out the window!
Now she’s fearful and almost in tears that the analysis would cost a fortune she doesn’t have. I apologize, telling her that I had gone into our meeting assuming we are going to do her analyses free of charge. What a relief! Now she could continue going forward, she says.
Then, with intensity she asks, “When can we start?”
“Jon and I have some project work we need to finish.”
“How long will it take?”
“Maybe two months.”
She looks disappointed. I explain that when we get started we can rip through sample analyses at one every couple minutes, and for 28 elements simultaneously!
By the look that passes across her face something clicks in her head, but she makes no mention of it.
“Oh”she says, changing the subject, “I almost forgot. These are copies of the papers I could find on analysis of ancient bones.”
More homework for me. That’s a wrap for now, and I ask Pauline how she got started on this pursuit, not mentioning that it’s rather late in her life to set out to get one’s masters in physical anthropology.
She tells me she married a young sailor in San Diego, raised four navy brats while working as a nurse assistant to an orthopedic surgeon group, and her husband has finally retired from his military service.
It’s her turn now!
So, as a surgical nurse in orthopedics, she has a running start on the science background needed, plus the solid practical experience and background in bone structure and identification. Physical anthropology was a natural for her!
She gets half way through her second semester of anthropology classes and has a stroke, then another. Can’t walk, can’t speak, can’t write. She works at getting herself unaided into a wheel chair. Hires a student assistant to help get her to and from and around campus. Takes a tape recorder to class for notes (with permission of course) and types them manually (no laptops then, not even Apples) and starts all over again toward her initial goal.
Pauline leaves Hasler Research Center (HRC) and is off again on her mission. That afternoon I drafted a design for a plexiglass piston and cylinder with which to pulverize our bone samples for weighing, acid digestion and analysis without contaminating them with the metals we would be looking for.
We hadn’t heard from Pauline for over a month when she called from a museum out in the pucker-brush somewhere. She reported she’d traveled a great loop in the Southwest through Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada and Utah where she’d begged and pleaded with museum directors and curators pitching her thesis to obtain more samples of well-provenanced bone in the two categories, Anasazi and Freemont. Now she has seventy five more samples! Was that OK, she asks. Sure, I reply. I figure she’ll get some solid statistics out of this collection.
I finish reading all the reference papers Pauline has gathered on analysis of bone and find that regardless of analytical instrumentation or method employed, not a single author has wondered if their work was validated by analysis of bone with values obtained by definitive measurements, thus settling any question about analytical errors unwittingly committed.
Now, I’m becoming concerned about what we’ll use for independent well-analyzed certified reference materials to validate our methodology and work! I contact George Alexander at UCLA who routinely does trace element analysis of environmental samples for the good folks at the Nevada Nuclear Test Site. George tells me there is no available human bone certified reference material, but he can give me some of “Oscar” for which he has generated trace element values, including the major elements Calcium and Phosphorus. This is a treasure! And even better is that “Oscar” has never been in the ground to get contaminated, or lose elements to the soil by leaching.
Earlier, Pauline had offered to obtain a 1 gram sample of Native American bone thought to be twenty to forty thousand years old. It was one found on the California coast and had been age dated by Dr. Jeffery Bada using his new aspartic acid recemization technique. It could be a good indicator of long term compositional drift of bone in soil, but it still wasn’t a beacon thoroughly established as having the “true values” ascribed to Certified Reference Materials produced by the National Bureau of Standards that all could reasonably agree were “true and correct”.
George at UCLA, who’s experienced doing work for nuclear agencies worldwide, directs me to the work of Isabell Tipton, a British chemist, who during and following the Second War established elemental concentration values for whole human cadavers for their nuclear development programs. I imagine her stirring up a giant pot of human stew (hair, toenails and all except the socks) until completely dissolved in acid. I wonder “Was she a vegan before, or after? Did she have a bowl of soup for lunch?”
Anyway, these data Isabell generated became known as “standard man”. Additionally, she broke her “standard man” tabulations down into separate organs such as liver, brain, heart, spleen, and others including bone. Here are at least literature reference values available to us for uninterred human bone tissue, in the absence of physical material other than “Oscar”.
My colleague, Dr. Jim Hinthorne, a geologist with a specialty in rock formation, suggests Phosphate Rock from the NBS (now NIST) pointing out that it was fossilized material from an ancient Pliocene seabed laden with bone and shark teeth. Its matrix and trace element composition is very similar to soil-contaminated human bone which is Pauline’s interest, but best of all, this bone is very well characterized by independent expert analysts who are in agreement about its composition within very narrow ranges. This becomes our beacon and anchor for valid objectively verifiable analytical results.
Pauline returns with over one hundred bone samples, intending to do her project up right. With the bones contributed by George Alexander we had a total of one hundred twenty bones. My young son, Russ, persuaded me to include a bone he excavated in Sycamore Canyon near Santa Barbara. As a youngster he’d been fortunate to be allowed on a National Geographic sponsored survey near Tonopah Nevada at a site which dated back five to ten thousand years. He is very interested in the procedures of archaeology, and inspired by Pauline, whom he dubbed Gramma Bones after she’d joined us for a few meals at our home as we worked on her analyses and their interpretations.
It is time to begin the sample analysis work now. The first task is to prepare the individual bone samples for analysis. I wait until the weekend when it would be quiet around the labs and machine shop. I need to concentrate and focus on the task without interruption or distraction. Everything is in place and ready, but I just can’t bring myself to start. A step in the process is missing.
I take a quiet time to “have a talk” with each and all of my subjects to explain why we are gathered here this Saturday morning. To explain exactly what we are doing. What will happen to them. That their spirit will be taken into solution and pass up through the core of this argon plasma, hotter than the surface of the sun, to be atomically excited, and emit their specific light telling their ancient stories to all of us who are living now. Then they will journey up into the sky, finally returning to re-join Earth as the original thermonuclear burnt and exploded star dust from which we, and all our ancestors, and all that we know, are made.
After that, the mundane repetitive process of sample weighing, dissolution, digestion, and presentation to the instrumentation flows through to a resulting blizzard of data which need interpretation. What is the story to be told in these snow banks of raw information?
These bones begin to tell their story right away, as part of the story becomes clear even before analysis.
I have a perfectly intact finger digit to crush for weighing. Upon crushing I find grains of sand as large as several
millimeters! How’d it get in there? No cracks, crevices or holes were evident before opening the digit.
These “sand” grains must have formed as fresh new crystals in the hollow space over time following burial,
because silicon is found only at low parts per million (ppm) levels in unexposed human bone. As much as thirty
eight weight percent (380,000 ppm) of one sample turns out to be nitric-perchloric acid indigestible silica grains.
This evidence of contamination from the outside is ominous for Pauline’s general hypothesis.
Essentially, the data show both major and trace elements alike have concentration ranges a factor of ten to one hundred times greater than expected for unexposed and uncontaminated human bone tissue. The story is that elemental bone composition is not stable over time when exposed to interaction with moisture, soil, and burial artifacts.
This is illustrated in Figure 1 where n is the number of bone analyses comprising the data presented. The horizontal axis is concentration of element found, and the vertical axis is a smoothed frequency of occurrence at concentration indicated. The hatched segments are the literature reported ranges of elemental concentrations for unexposed human bone. The very narrow range for K (potassium), Mg (magnesium), and Na (sodium) reflect that these elements in living bone are normally under tight homeostatic control, but when the bone is exposed to soil they literally drain out of this dead tissue.
The case for Cu (copper) and Zn (zinc) are debatable. However, Sr (strontium), Ba (barium), Mn (manganese), Fe (iron) and Al (aluminum) for the most part, appear to intrude into the soil-exposed bones we examine, as was the case for silicon showing up as “sand” grains inside the bones examined earlier at time of crushing for weighing. These results were devastating to the original general hypothesis Pauline had formed for testing.
Without fear or hesitation Pauline marched straight forward and boldly drew her conclusions. Her hypothesis had not been confirmed. Instead, she drew in her Masters Thesis a sizeable list of lessons to be learned about archaeometry of bone tissue for elemental composition, and validation of analytical methodology for trace and major elemental analysis of human bone tissue. Determined as ever, she decided she needed to continue her work and pursue her PhD.
In retrospect, we might have sieved through the samples analyzed qualifying for further examination only those for which concentrations of both major and trace elements fell within the ranges expected for unexposed human bone, only then, looking for possible significant differences between cultural populations for zinc in bone as she had originally hypothesized.
We did some follow up work for Pauline on the subject of intrusion and exchange of elements in bone. Another worker in the field, Gilbert, (2) had selected tibia (shin) as the best sample material to work with. This is the thickest cross section and highest density of all human bones, has none of the usual porosity of other bone, and has the least turnover thus being more likely to preserve nutritional history (living bone is constantly being destroyed by osteoclasts, and at the same time in another location is being built anew by osteoblasts).
She obtained a section of shin for us. One section we analyzed whole. With the next adjacent slice of tibia from the same individual we removed by abrasion with silicon carbide the outer “skin” of several millimeters which visually appeared to be stained when compared with the interior.
We were gratified to learn that the section which had been “peeled” of its outer layer showed concentration values more nearly comparable with “Oscar” and the literature values of unexposed bone, whereas the “unpeeled” section showed the drift of elements characteristic of leaching and intrusion illustrated in figure 1. Gilbert’s conclusions were congruent with our observations and measurements.
Pauline’s work pointed to what needed to be done in the future. A potential mentor for her, Professor George Armelagos, Department of Anthropology at University of Massachussets wrote her … “your thesis … should set the standards for methodology for years to come.”
I lost track of Pauline when she went East to explore possibilities of continuing her studies and work, and I relocated from Santa Barbara to the Los Angeles area, but I believe she completed her PhD at University of California Riverside.
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1) Hypothesis failed: knowledge gained. No loss: net gain.
2) Pauline’s willingness to ask for help … and get it … was a large lesson for me.
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(1) An evaluation of the induction-coupled, radio-frequency plasma torch for atomic emission and atomic absorption spectrometry Claude Veillon, Marvin Margoshes,
Spectrochimica acta. Part B, Atomic spectroscopy, Vol: 23, Issue: 8, Date: 1968-8, Pages: 503-512. ISSN: 0584-8547,
Abstract:
A study has been made of the induction-coupled, 4.8 MHz, plasma torch as a source of atoms for emission and absorption spectrochemical analysis. The factors evaluated include sensitivity, limits of detection, inter-element effects, limitations, and general convenience. In agreement with other reports, the plasma torch was found to give useful emission signals for several elements which are difficult to excite in chemical flames, such as B, Ta, and Ti. The value of the source for atomic absorption spectrometry was found to depend on the availability of bright line sources. Pronounced inter-element effects were found, affecting particularly the emission signals. In most cases, these inter-element effects were enhancements of the emission, although in one case a suppression was observed. Except for a few refractory elements, the 4.8 MHz plasma torch does not appear to be a suitable replacement for the chemical flame.
(2) Gilbert, Robert I. Trace Element Analysis of three Skeletal American Indian Populations at Dickson Mounds. Ph.D. Dissertation, University of Massachusetts.
Footnote 1: [Since the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (NAGPRA) of 1990 forbids any disturbance of burial sites and their contents, this avenue of inquiry was closed. Kennewick Man stirred the controversy again a few years later. Pauline’s kind of study would be prohibited in future.]
Footnote 2: [When James Latimer Jones, our mentor at Hasler Research Center died, Jon and I, with the support and encouragement of his wife Betty, ran a few hundred milligrams of his ashes through the same plasma which our Native American visitors had earlier traversed on the way to rejoining with all of nature.]
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POSTED BY RAF LEON DAHLQUIST AT 3:57 AM

Reply to  Dahlquist
August 16, 2015 1:05 am

Dahlquist,
Very moving story of a dedicated lady, who despite her handicap wanted to go on with her life and science, no matter the outcome for what her original ideas were… Hat off for such a courage!
What a difference with the science fiction museum they are going to build all based on the fantasy of failed models…

Dahlquist
Reply to  Dahlquist
August 16, 2015 1:56 am

Ferdinand,
Thanks for the reply.
This was a story my father wrote about this wonderful woman, Pauline. I recall it very well and even have her thesis paper to this day. I was a teenager at the time and she actually did use a bone from one of my discoveries in a deep pit in the canyon mentioned… as a calibration sample.
It seems that so many do not really understand the scientific method of testing a hypothesis to the ultimate confirmation or falsification of that hypothesis. And also to the many discoveries and additions to the general knowledge and understanding of natural processes…Which contribute to the general knowledge for further discovery and understanding. ( So much information it is a chore to try to list the benefits to science from a simple test of a hypothesis ). Pauline had an idea, but it was proven undoable in the strictest sense, but the knowledge gained from the study gave valuable information for future advancement in this area of study, and probably many others as well.
The story is just about one method and one hypothesis. There are many, many old and new ways for testing an idea. This is just one story about the way things are done in the scientific method, in this one area of analytical chemistry/spectroscopy/metry, but in general, how science is, and should be done, regularly. No ifs, ands, buts or assumptions, possibilities, and maybes, as is the pseudo science of climate research today. Climate study today is not science. Not only is it not science…It is political and emotional. Science has no room for anything other than facts and real, proven data.
Dahlquist

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Reply to  Dahlquist
August 16, 2015 11:17 am

Good science, which many – myself included – feel is sadly lacking in some parts of the Watermelons’ Scam.
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markl
August 15, 2015 10:12 am

You can’t make this stuff up.

Mike Bromley the Kurd
Reply to  markl
August 15, 2015 11:44 am

yet, they have. To accompany the black-balled reservoirs steeping in Cauliflowernia Sunshine.

Goldrider
Reply to  markl
August 15, 2015 1:27 pm

You have to understand–New York on any given weekend resembles Dr. Seuss’ “Solla Sollew.” Only here can you see 800 “men” with 5-day shadow riding skateboards down broadway, complete with helmet cams and shirtless. Only here do you see 5,000 similarly self-styled “adults” dressed up in Santa suits. Or with shamrocks sprouting from their noses, drunk off their rocks in public. The whole PLACE is some kind of “museum,” mostly of immaturity, absurdity, and insanity.

old44
Reply to  markl
August 15, 2015 1:34 pm

You can, and they did.

Svend Ferdinandsen
August 15, 2015 10:13 am

It is very akward to make a museum of the future.
It would be more informative to make a museum of the past climate change, so that peoble could see that there is not so much new.

PiperPaul
Reply to  Svend Ferdinandsen
August 15, 2015 12:17 pm

But they’ll get to revise the museum every year, thus creating yet more work for otherwise useless climate-obsessed people.

mobihci
Reply to  Svend Ferdinandsen
August 15, 2015 5:24 pm

it would be interesting to see how the revisionists would deal with the past climate actually. i mean, look at the hockey stick! it is as flat as a tack before the AGW, so they would have to present a past where hmm lets see-
1- the arctic sea ice is always growing and the antarctic is always shrinking
2- the ice core data really shows no change over the past thousands years
3- the little ice age paintings were just that and other proxy data from around the world at that time are just a fluke
4- the vikings thought greenland was a great place to farm ice, as they do
5- the sea level starts changing hundreds of years ago because man built many fireplaces!

Neo
Reply to  Svend Ferdinandsen
August 15, 2015 7:49 pm

“It’s tough to make predictions, especially about the future.” ― Yogi Berra

William Yarber
August 15, 2015 10:19 am

Don’t tell me the facts, my mind is already made up. As is my science.
Bill

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Reply to  William Yarber
August 16, 2015 11:44 am

Just been reading about another with a not-necessarily-open mind.
Possibly not officially authorised . . .
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jeremy_Corbyn
But smileable, especially for Brits.
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Joe Schmoe
August 15, 2015 10:24 am

“small Jockey Club”
The jokes. They write themselves.

H.R.
Reply to  Joe Schmoe
August 15, 2015 11:44 am

Right next door too the 6″7″-and-over Jockey Club? IIR, they keep small-jockey clubs* behind the bar within easy reach in case those little fellows from next door try to sneak in.
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*Similar to, but shorter than a cricket bat, for those unfamiliar.

catweazle666
August 15, 2015 10:25 am

Oh wow, a museum of stuff that hasn’t happened yet, there’s a novelty!
Only the climate science industry could have dreamed that up.

Goldrider
Reply to  catweazle666
August 15, 2015 3:09 pm

And in November, when their big pow-wow in Paris results in not ONE piece of paper that binds anyone to anything (as per the last 30 years), they’ll blame it on us skeptics skewing public opinion. Hey, we can dream! 😉

catweazle666
Reply to  Goldrider
August 15, 2015 4:40 pm

Goldrider: “And in November, when their big pow-wow in Paris results in not ONE piece of paper that binds anyone to anything (as per the last 30 years)”
You do them an injustice.
In fact, there is one vital issue that has been decided every year, without fail.
That is which five-star resort will host the next great billion bollar p!ss-up, complete with the carbon footprint of a small industrial nation.
Funny how these get-togethers never seem to happen in Scunthorpe or Skegness, isn’t it?

David in Michigan
Reply to  catweazle666
August 15, 2015 4:34 pm

You missed the point: It’s an tentative plan for a museum that might be built which would show stuff that hasn’t happened yet. And yet, the plan could be finalized and the museum could be built showing stuff that COULD happen…… if only there was enough money. Or some such nonsense like that. Phew. Confusing.

Bolshevictim
Reply to  catweazle666
August 15, 2015 6:50 pm

It’s like all the Holocaust museums, dedicated to things that never happened.

SMC
Reply to  Bolshevictim
August 15, 2015 8:01 pm

Which is why Eisenhower wanted lots of pictures and documentation of the concentration camps. Because he knew people would deny the Holocaust ever happened.

Man Bearpig
Reply to  Bolshevictim
August 16, 2015 8:58 am

You have a slight problem there Bolshevictim. There is plenty of evidence that supports that the holocaust actually did happen. Personally I think the comments should be removed as this site is nothing to do with the holocaust. If you want something interesting, look around SkS there are photos of Cook in NAZI uniform.
If you dont believe me here is the photo.comment image

catweazle666
Reply to  Bolshevictim
August 16, 2015 12:17 pm

“It’s like all the Holocaust museums, dedicated to things that never happened.”
Dipstick.

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Reply to  Bolshevictim
August 16, 2015 12:47 pm

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I. like Man Bear above, would seek to have this comment removed promptly.
Thanks for considering.
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[Reply: since it’s an opinion without any specifics, commenters here can take him to the woodshed. ~mod.]

Reply to  Bolshevictim
August 16, 2015 1:00 pm

Some folks claim the moon landings never happened. I consider them to be far more credible than ‘Bolshevictim’.

hunter
Reply to  Bolshevictim
August 17, 2015 2:55 pm

Bolshevictim,
Are you Lewandowsky’s sock puppet?

ozspeaksup
Reply to  catweazle666
August 16, 2015 4:53 am

actually Id think Disneyland might be after em for infringement on Fantasy land themes???

August 15, 2015 10:27 am

I saw the same type of thing at a countryside solar plant in Asia a few years back. All fire and brimstone, and flies, and a recording of the dead guy (the last one apparently) telling what went wrong. Worse than any Sunday school I ever heard of (other than Jim Jones’s I reckon). It’s child abuse provided by the state and connected enterprises. But, those poor kids have to go and learn how to accept $0.32 / kwh electric power, I guess, even though they are already poor and living in a malfunctioning country.

August 15, 2015 10:33 am

I can imagine this being very popular. /sarc/off

TonyL
Reply to  David Johnson
August 15, 2015 11:02 am

Class trips by every grade from every school in the city, for starters. Let the propaganda roll. Profs at CUNY and Columbia U. make up assignments to visit and report.

Reply to  TonyL
August 15, 2015 12:21 pm

That is really the truth. This will be used to further the propaganda forced down our children’s throats. It will then likely be used as a template for more museums around the country.

sunsettommy
Reply to  TonyL
August 15, 2015 12:37 pm

I learned from being a parent,that while helping them grow up over time, that they need to feel SAFE in their lives. Filling their heads up with doom and gloom propaganda,is child abuse plain and simple.

Reply to  TonyL
August 15, 2015 1:30 pm

The field trips to this museum will be mandatory.

rogerknights
Reply to  TonyL
August 15, 2015 10:43 pm

“It will then likely be used as a template for more museums around the country.”
If they had an sense, they’d have long ago sent a mobile museum, or a dozen of them, like bookmobiles, maybe in pairs or triplets, on tours visiting schools across the country.
(OK Soros, where’s my $1 million consulting fee?)

SMC
August 15, 2015 10:33 am

This sounds a lot like the Creation Museum. For the fanatical and true believers.

Reply to  SMC
August 15, 2015 10:49 am

Except the creationist have no plans that will cause you harm, funded it themselves, and are actually talking about the past. Other than that pretty much the same.

SMC
Reply to  mkelly
August 15, 2015 11:17 am

I wouldn’t say they, “have no plans that will cause you harm”. Their blind faith in the Bible and complete disregard of evolutionary science would be a problem if it wasn’t completely disregarded by the vast majority of society.

Reply to  mkelly
August 15, 2015 12:06 pm

In case you did not et the memo, we no longer have to worry about wrecking science.
Although this museum will be like icing on an ice cream cake…stuffed with icing.

Reply to  mkelly
August 15, 2015 2:11 pm

SMC These days in the United States you can ignore fundamentalist stuff but not environmentalist stuff stop being so silly. Those of us who enjoy science wherever it may lead have always been rare among the human race!

SMC
Reply to  mkelly
August 15, 2015 2:28 pm

Fossilsage, I don’t think you can ignore the “fundamentalist stuff” anymore than you can ignore the “environmentalist stuff”. Both have their good aspects and both can be, and have been, corrupted. The good aspects are generally ignored or taken for granted and the bad aspects make headlines.

MarkW
Reply to  mkelly
August 15, 2015 5:08 pm

SMC, how exactly does someone else’s none belief in evolution harm you?
Or are you admitting that you are one of those people who stay awake at night obsessing that somewhere there is someone who doesn’t agree with you on everything?

SMC
Reply to  mkelly
August 15, 2015 5:51 pm

MarkW, someone’s non-belief in evolution doesn’t harm me. And no, I don’t stay awake at night worrying about it. However, the fanatical belief in something, whether it is creationism or CAGW, has a real possibility of causing harm. As for creationism and the belief behind it is pretty harmless. CAGW and the belief behind it however, is potentially very harmful.

co2islife
Reply to  mkelly
August 15, 2015 8:05 pm

Except the creationist have no plans that will cause you harm, funded it themselves, and are actually talking about the past.

Those “ignorant” creationists built churches, hospitals, schools, food banks and instilled a moral foundation that has made Western Civilization the envy of the world. What have these leftists given the world? Communism? Fascism? Human Slaughter unseen since the beginning of time? Hoaxes like DDT, Ozone Hole Global Warming? Entitlement programs that are certain to make the US the next Greece? Irresponsible spending designed to bankrupt America?
http://www.thenation.com/article/weight-poor-strategy-end-poverty/
Morally Bankrupt Propaganda techniques detailed in Rules for Radicals.
They are attempting to base America upon a complete set of lies and misguided ideologies.
Corruption on an epic scale that has destroyed the credibility, reliability and integrity of the Government, Educational System, Scientific Community, Media, Legal, NGO and Culture.

SMC
Reply to  mkelly
August 15, 2015 8:52 pm

Geez. That is a rabid article.

Sun Spot
Reply to  mkelly
August 16, 2015 10:53 am

SMC , you seem to be suffering from some Dawkinesqe religion bigotry. Take your small mindedness somewhere else.

SMC
Reply to  mkelly
August 16, 2015 1:26 pm

Richard Dawkins is, apparently, an atheist. I’m not. Sorry if you seem to feel my comments constitute religious bigotry.

Reply to  SMC
August 15, 2015 11:00 am

At least it would be about a past.

Mike McMillan
Reply to  SMC
August 15, 2015 12:48 pm

Sure, spot us one miracle 13.7 billion years ago, and the rest is SCIENCE !

SMC
Reply to  Mike McMillan
August 15, 2015 1:01 pm

Well, according to the creationists, the earth is only about 10,000’ish years old… which would make the rest of the universe only slightly older.

Kozlowski
Reply to  Mike McMillan
August 15, 2015 1:17 pm

Just because we don’t understand it, doesn’t mean we have to invoke miracles. Or anthropomorphize it.

Mike McMillan
Reply to  Mike McMillan
August 15, 2015 1:18 pm

Coincides nicely with the Holocene. Creationists put the beginning of earth at 4003 BC, give or take the week it took to assemble the parts. That coincides nicely with the point where man started keeping a diary.

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  Mike McMillan
August 15, 2015 2:32 pm

MONDAY — This new creature with the long hair is a good deal in the way. It is always hanging around and following me about. I don’t like this; I am not used to company. I wish it would stay with the other animals. . . . Cloudy today, wind in the east; think we shall have rain. . . . WE? Where did I get that word-the new creature uses it.
TUESDAY — Been examining the great waterfall. …
Extracts from Adam’s Diary (translated & edited by Mark Twain)

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Reply to  Mike McMillan
August 16, 2015 12:53 pm

Surely the best Brief History of the Universe And Everything Else is:
Hydrogen.
Time.
With huge thanks to xkcd.
Here:
http://xkcd.com/about/
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Man Bearpig
Reply to  SMC
August 16, 2015 9:09 am

I am not religious in any sense of the word, I do not worship a god of any creed. I believe the world is at least 14 billion yhears old. I am completely agnostic and I also do not have any problems with anyones beliefs as they are fully entitled to them as I am in my beliefs as long as they dont come near me wagging their finger.
Be it Islam, Hindu, Creationism, Judaism, Christianty, whateverism. Making fun of someone because they are of one creed is no different to the Naziism of the Early 20th century.
There are other religions that think the world began 3 or 4 thousand years ago and christianity is one of them. Look at the first chapter in the old testament.

SMC
Reply to  Man Bearpig
August 16, 2015 10:35 am

The earth is about 4.5 billion years old, or so. The universe is estimated to be about 14 billion years old… or so.

co2islife
Reply to  Man Bearpig
August 16, 2015 6:11 pm

There are other religions that think the world began 3 or 4 thousand years ago and christianity is one of them. Look at the first chapter in the old testament.

Yep, Islam, Judaism and Christianity all share the Old Testament. The misguided selective moral of the left however is directed at Christianity. Their blind hatred towards Christianity and morally bankrupt double standards allow them to create hate speech symbols directed towards Christians when Creationism is detailed in Genesis of the Old Testament. This hate symbol is really an insult to Muslims and Jews. Christians focus on the New Testament. Also, I’ve never seen the Left Wing complain about no gay marriages being performed at Mosques, they only attack the Catholics.comment image
BTW I dare the Left Wingers that sanctimoniously drive around with that hate symbol on their Priuses to use an image of Mohamed to mock those of religious faith. All religions have issues, yet the Left only attack those do gooders Christians. They want gays in the NFL lockerroom, but not Tim Tebow. The hypocritical intolerance of the left is beyond description.

Mani Borshwein
Reply to  Man Bearpig
August 17, 2015 1:31 am

Hi SMC … Yes, of course, you are right.

Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
August 15, 2015 10:34 am

…late of course, but it is good to see that the museum crowd has just learnt to get its snout into the climate change funding trough.

MarkW
August 15, 2015 10:40 am

Wouldn’t a museum of climate have exhibits talking about all the times in the last 10K years when the earth has been much warmer than it is today?

jvcstone
Reply to  MarkW
August 15, 2015 3:33 pm

the new “science” reality–Pick any recent convenient date–say 1880, or 1970, or??? and the world at that point in time is set in stone–always was exactly that way, and any change from that static point is obviously the result of us pesky humans going about the business of living.

Greg Woods
August 15, 2015 10:43 am

‘ All that is about to change, with the planned construction of New York’s new climate change museum – a museum dedicated…’ – a museum dedicated to Fear Mongering…

Reply to  Greg Woods
August 15, 2015 12:23 pm

BINGO! All the school Kids forced to go through here will end up with PTSD; effectively inoculated from logical rebuttals.

Bubba Cow
Reply to  Jeff in Calgary
August 15, 2015 1:28 pm

and later as liberal arts majors wasting tuition, room, and board, they can become completely dysfunctional – http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/the-coddling-of-the-american-mind/399356/

mobihci
Reply to  Jeff in Calgary
August 15, 2015 6:05 pm

the chance to continue teaching critical thinking has passed. eg critical thinking on the subject of global warming will lead you to understand the failure of the hypothesis, yet there are a large portion of the peers in the field willing to ignore the scientific method. if that percent is higher than 50% then the game is up. it no longer pays to think critically and will eventually just cause you trouble. this is where we are at now with human development in general. it is the reverse of the enlightenment.

simple-touriste
August 15, 2015 10:43 am

Is there a museum of the dangers of not doing vaccinations against, well, everything?
With calamities sent on the people, etc.

Reply to  simple-touriste
August 15, 2015 12:24 pm

Hey, that would be a great wing to a wax museum. Maybe right beside the “Hall of Horrors”.

simple-touriste
Reply to  Jeff in Calgary
August 15, 2015 12:51 pm

Does GW makes the flu worse?

SMC
Reply to  Jeff in Calgary
August 15, 2015 1:38 pm

Of course it does. CAGW makes everything worse.

indefatigablefrog
August 15, 2015 10:43 am

Let them do it. Let them chisel their predictions into a mighty granite edifice, if that is what they wish to do.
In twenty years, when children still know what snow is, when Polar Bears are continuing to thrive, when no trend of rising hurricane frequency and power has materialized, when the Bangladeshi delta and the Maldives are still above sea level, etc etc – then…
Well, actually, then people will have just as much reason to figure out that these predictions are bullcrap as they do now. Because all these predictions were made 10, 20 or 30 years ago, and have already failed.
Anyway, if brain-dead journalists and bloggers plan to continue to parrot the idiotic model based predictions then they might want to consider closing the comments section below their articles.
Because, people are waking up – and we won’t put up with this shit anymore!!
As demonstrated in the comments below this hilariously stupid piece of garbage from newsweek:
http://www.newsweek.com/polar-bears-start-dying-ten-years-thanks-climate-change-349828

Bubba Cow
Reply to  indefatigablefrog
August 15, 2015 10:53 am

you’re picking on poor Zoë Schlanger /s

inMAGICn
Reply to  indefatigablefrog
August 15, 2015 1:37 pm

Sorry M. le frog, won’t happen.
Wrong predictions will go down the memory hole, any trends that point to their predictions occuring will be trumpeted, and if we fall into an ice age, they’ll say: “See, our cuts in CO2 worked.”
You can’t win.

co2islife
Reply to  indefatigablefrog
August 16, 2015 6:13 am

LOL, why would warming kill the polar bears? Do they eat ice? Polar bears seem to do just fine is zoos around the world. I would image the less harsh environment would allow the polar bears to thrive. In the series “Planet Earth” there is a scene where a Polar Bear swims across to an island with many huge Walruses. The bear, being about 1/2 the size of one of these walruses, attacks a big one. The bear gets gored, and stumbles off to die. The narrator blames the bear’s death on climate change. That isn’t a joke.

Crispin in Waterloo but really in Yogyakarta
Reply to  indefatigablefrog
August 16, 2015 5:48 pm

I hear hear at The Verge they are no longer allowing comments on climate related articles. They have always been liberal in permitting no holds barred contributions. Some denizens of WUWT have been citing well sourced arguments from here with some effect. Others counter with the ‘science’ of Cook and Mann. It has been pretty active, not to say acrimonious.
I presume the skeptics have been effective, otherwise The Verge would see no need to close a public discussion space.

August 15, 2015 10:45 am

I guess they haven’t gotten the memo:
Tomorrowland $140 million dollar bust.
Anyone with an ounce of integrity should be able to a setup to a huge financial loss in this. But hey, at least they are not calling it as such. Just Climate policy motivated with “ambition.” And they are likely spending someone else’s money, not their own money at risk.
Climate ambition = an activist’s world view where truth and uncertainty hold no relevance.

Bubba Cow
August 15, 2015 10:46 am

how about an exhibit by Josh ? !!

August 15, 2015 10:46 am

A museum for the greatest scam in history …?
Why not wax figures of the Mann, Hansen, alGore et al. in the horror section of Madame Tussauds …?

noloctd
Reply to  SasjaL
August 15, 2015 2:33 pm

Melting wax, of course, from all the missing heat.

indefatigablefrog
Reply to  noloctd
August 15, 2015 11:43 pm

Bottom melt, of course. From all the methane rich hot air that they are blowing out of their ass.
(Although, I have now learned that the correct term is basal melt. That scary melting story that can distract everyone from the clear evidence that satellites observe that there has never been so much Antartic sea ice.)

August 15, 2015 10:52 am

Governors Island is the perfect place for it! It’s only 172 acres & NOBODY goes there. Except Hillary C. She had her re-re-relaunch there. Could not be a better place for this museum to the absurd.

Björn from Sweden
August 15, 2015 10:55 am

They will not give up so close to the ultimate political paradise. A world where government tax the air we breathe.
https://youtu.be/V3sG5gViOdg

old44
Reply to  Björn from Sweden
August 15, 2015 1:43 pm

Just goes to prove the current generation is way smarter than those that preceded it. Myself, my parents and my grandparents all thought the government couldn’t tax the air we breathe. Gen X Y and Z posivitly insist on it.

SMC
Reply to  old44
August 15, 2015 2:04 pm

Don’t include Gen X. We’re too busy rebelling against the Baby Boomers. Gen Y (I don’t know) is too busy being brainwashed.

Zeke
Reply to  old44
August 18, 2015 1:47 pm

Old44 says, “Myself, my parents and my grandparents all thought the government couldn’t tax the air we breathe. Gen X Y and Z posivitly insist on it.”
Paul McCartney is now “looking at the data” and concluding that the evidence for AGW is incontrovertible. You picked the wrong sex-drugs-occult prophet to hold up as an example of “don’t lay a heavy trip on me man question authority” philosophy.
Try again?
An alternative explanation is that the Cannabis Generation is the source of all of the weapons grade environmentalism, and further, that the Boomers are now miseducating the successive generations with increasing intensity. Eric Worrall is correct to point out that the intended audience for this Climate Museum is school children.

Reply to  Björn from Sweden
August 16, 2015 1:26 am

Which is quite ironic as McCartney is a full blown member of the AGW believers club nowadays.

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Reply to  Carrie Spurgeon
August 16, 2015 1:08 pm

I assume McCartney has decent accountants.
Top tax rate – before the Brown and Osborne fiddles – is 45%.
Ahhhhh!
The fiddles.
All sorts of allowances and decreases, which make the UK possess the most complicated [SURELY] tax regime in the world.
Surely taxes should be
low
compulsory
unavoidable . . .
What is not to like.
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Village Idiot
August 15, 2015 11:01 am

And they’re going to use that picture!! Shame on them!

SMC
Reply to  Village Idiot
August 15, 2015 1:14 pm

What’s wrong with Cthulhu? Seems appropriate to me.

taxed
August 15, 2015 11:06 am

So can we expect to see them taking a keen interest in the recent ice ages.
Am not betting on it. 🙂

Jbird
August 15, 2015 11:16 am

This is not a museum in any sense of the word. It is purely a propaganda device. I see that there is an “impressive” list of supporters, I.e. other museums, a university, Audubon Society, Harvard’s Kennedy School and so fourth, but who is actually paying for this? Which individuals by name are involved at the monetary level? Where is the money coming from? Probably some of it is from involuntary NY taxpayer contributions. Find out the names of the promoters and you will know who is most invested on bringing about carbon taxes and credits. Miranda Massie is just a hired mouthpiece for the others.
There seems to be a real desperation among many AGW proponents to convince skeptics that AGW is real. There is potentially a lot to be gained monetarily by the government through increased “carbon” revenues and also by financial interests through carbon credit trading. All that carbon trading does is to introduce another essentially valueless inflateable and deflateable currency into the financial system. This will allow speculation and further abuses by insiders which will syphon off real wealth.

Reply to  Jbird
August 15, 2015 11:19 am

That is the point, yes?

MarkW
Reply to  Jbird
August 15, 2015 5:11 pm

Leftists have been demanding that other museums be stripped of anything that offends them for years.

MikeJones
August 15, 2015 11:20 am

This screams potential! WUWT needs to secure the rights to the gift shop, you could sell; find the missing heat board games,Michael Mann sea rise survival waders, climategate playing cards, 3d like temperature records with homogenising glasses and hockey stick pens, pendants, mugs and posters.

michael hart
Reply to  MikeJones
August 15, 2015 1:43 pm

…and a frog that croaks “the golden age of global warming”

marque2
August 15, 2015 11:23 am

I hope.the climate museum, keeps a low footprint by eschewing air conditioning, and eschewing any exhibits which might require electricity. Who gives a damb about fun interaction,the planet is at stake here!
In San Diego, in our Scripts aquarium, 1/3 of the museum is dedicated to global warming. Just about every natural history and sciece museum has a climate change propaganda floor any more. Seems like this is a big waste of money.

Greg Woods
Reply to  marque2
August 15, 2015 2:05 pm

I keep asking what effects global warming has had, and now I realize what they are. Exhibits, museums, myriad newspaper and net articles. To say nothing about the ‘academic’ endeavors and their fallout: trips to exotic places and not-so-exotic for meetings and conventions. Yes, global warming is the gift that keeps on giving.

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