Death Valley sets new cold temperature record by wide margin

A new record: low maximum temperature beats the old one by 15 degrees!

From the NWS in Las Vegas:

RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LAS VEGAS NV
1000 AM PDT MON AUG 4 2014

...RECORD LOW MAXIMUM TEMPERATURE BROKEN IN DEATH VALLEY YESTERDAY...

THE HIGH TEMPERATURE IN DEATH VALLEY REACHED 89 DEGREES YESTERDAY
AUGUST 3. THIS BROKE THE PREVIOUS RECORD OF 104 DEGREES SET IN 1945.

THIS WAS ALSO ONLY THE 7TH TIME SINCE 1911 THAT HIGH TEMPERATURES IN
AUGUST REMAINED IN THE 80S.

THE ABOVE INFORMATION IS PRELIMINARY AND IS SUBJECT TO A FINAL
REVIEW AND CERTIFICATION BY THE NATIONAL CLIMATIC DATA CENTER.
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55 thoughts on “Death Valley sets new cold temperature record by wide margin

  1. Very hot weather: “We’re all going to die!” Very cold weather: “There’s a difference between climate & weather, moron!” – Pat Sajak

    Ok, I’ll explain again: cold, snowy winters do not disprove global warming, but warm winters do prove it. Got it? – Pat Sajak

  2. I presume this was at the real station, not the bogus one set up solely for the purpose of finally getting a higher high in Death Valley & the US in order to “prove” CACA correct.

  3. Note the last sentence. “The above information is preliminary and is subject to final review…..by national climactic center”
    So screw the local national weather service.
    Big brother makes the final call

  4. After the ‘necessary adjustments’ it turns out that it was actually the hottest evaaaaaaah. Worse than we thought!

    Steven Goddard reminds us that this September we will see the first anniversary of an ice free Arctic.

    “Why Arctic sea ice will vanish in 2013″
    by Paul Beckwith
    [Paul Beckwith, B.Eng, M.Sc. (Physics), Ph.D. student (Climatology) and Part-time Professor, University of Ottawa]

    http://www.sierraclub.ca/en/AdultDiscussionPlease?fb_action_ids=633465710015337&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582

  5. An upper level low with numerous waves has been bringing clouds and significant rain, all the way back to S.California yesterday.

    You can see 24 hour rainfall totals by going to this link and hitting “precipitation”

    http://water.weather.gov/precip/

    To zoom in closer, press your cursor on the spot you want to see.

  6. It’s currently 72 F in Vegas, with heavy rain.

    It was 104 there at 9 PM when I arrived last month.

  7. I can see Death Valley from my “Man Cave” window. Well, I can see Telescope Peak which looks down into Death Valley. Here in Ridgecrest/China Lake, CA(northern Mojave Desert), it was very cool and drizzley yesterday, Aug. 3rd. My max min thermometer registered only 76F!(max) Very unlike July/Aug. weather. This has been one of the coolest Julys that I can remember. I’ve lived here since 1956 at age 6.

  8. I’ve lived in the Cincinnati, OH area for most all of my 40+ years. This has been the coolest summer I can recall. We’ve had only a couple of days that reached 90 and none have gotten close to 100. Typically from late June through early August the temps will regularly reach the mid to upper 90′s often for days or weeks at a time. It is not at all unusual to have a day or two over 100. I work outdoors at night so to me the even more unusual thing has been the overnight lows. We’ve had many nights in the 50′s, several in the low 50′s. I’ve had to wear a sweatshirt for much of July which I’ve never done before. Purely anecdotal of course but this Summer has been cool. The grass has stayed green even. To paraphrase Kent Brockman “If this is the price we pay for Global Warming, you’ll forgive me if I keep my old Pontiac”

  9. 16.5% of the large state of NSW in Australia set coldest August Min temp records a few days ago…Adelaide in South Australia also set coldest August Min record for 126 years of data a few days ago…….Still large frost every morning in almost all of SE Australia.

  10. is WUWT denying “climate”??? the alarmist side is getting uglier by the minute:

    4 July: Guardian: World’s top PR companies rule out working with climate deniers
    Ten firms say they will not represent clients that deny man-made climate change or seek to block emisson-reducing regulations
    Suzanne Goldenberg and Nishad Karim
    Public relations firms have played a critical role over the years in framing the debate on climate change and its solutions – as well as the extensive disinformation campaigns launched to block those initiatives.
    Now a number of the top 25 global PR firms have told the Guardian they will not represent clients who deny man-made climate change, or take campaigns seeking to block regulations limiting carbon pollution. Companies include WPP, Waggener Edstrom (WE) Worldwide, Weber Shandwick, Text100, and Finn Partners.
    “We would not knowingly partner with a client who denies the existence of climate change,” said Rhian Rotz, spokesman for WE,,.

    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/aug/04/worlds-top-pr-companies-rule-out-working-with-climate-deniers

  11. Another record cold temperature is set and by a huge margin. Is there ANYTHING global warming can’t do?

  12. If this measurement is at Furnace Creek, and I suspect it is, this is interesting. Having surveyed and Death Valley (including near Badwater) and visited many times, heat is the operative word. But elevation changes can really make a differences (Scotty’s versus Furnace, for example).

  13. Interesting, almost the same scenario of our past three summers in Australia. Summers that were observationally cool to inhabitants, and rather comfortable considering our experience of past sizzling summers in the drought era years!
    But all we got from our Bureau of Meteorology was screaming headlines claiming hottest ever temperatures, record breaking temperatures, which was puzzling, until curious individuals looked into the, “how the heck did they arrive at that?” Easy it seems, start off with adjustments to downgrade past high temperature records, get rid of awkward sites, all done with some stealth behind the scenes, plant the ACORN of deception and liberally coat it with bulldust in the hope that the resulting “green tree of deception” will fool the media as they laze in its shade on a warm day, then of course, help the deception by concocting a method using average temperatures to take the extreme heat of Australian deserts and smear this all over the continent!

    Oh and of course play down any extreme cold weather, even if it is inconveniently extremely cold at the moment, call that a blocking event or some such even weird if need be.

    All the while hoping that your invented algorithm that now takes over the task of the temperature wreckers who physically altered the LIG thermometer historical account, will keep automatically adjusting modern temperatures ever upwards to ape the mythical hockey stick!

    I guess you have to watch closely to see the thimble and pea move in that illusionary world. Watch your Death valley High temperatures move out across America to confirm it must on average be hotter than ever!

  14. Australia again…….
    “Canberra has recorded its coldest August night in two decades, with the mercury dropping below -7 degrees Celsius.

    The nation’s capital has also recorded its coldest morning in three years.

    “We last had a -8C back in July 2011, but we got down to -7.6C at 6:54am,” Sean Carson from the Bureau of Meteorology told .

    “Your beer would be warmer in the fridge than being outside.”

    Across the capital, residents awoke to discover frozen bird baths, ice-encrusted lawns and cars in cold storage.

    One Canberran was greeted by her frost-laden pet alpaca.

    Canberra’s winter got off to a mild start in June, while July brought nights that were colder than average, dropping below -5C.

    A chance to ‘rug up’ and check on your neighbours

    The chilly conditions prompted a health warning.

    Doctor David Caldicott from Calvary Hospital said low temperatures could prove dangerous for some people by dropping their core temperature.

    “There are some people who are more susceptible to that,” he said.

    “The elderly can get profoundly unwell and their resuscitation as it often comes to it can be quite difficult.

    “If you have asthma, that can actually be fairly significantly aggravated by cold weather.

    “This is a great opportunity to catch up with your neighbours, knock on the door and make sure they’re okay.”

    Dr Caldicott said babies were also at risk of heat loss.

    “If you can put lots of layers on little babies, rug them up as if you’re taking them to the North Pole; put hats on, make sure there’s almost no exposed skin,” he said.”

    – ABC

    © ABC 2014

  15. Mike Maguire says:(August 4, 2014 at 3:58 pm) “An upper level low with numerous waves has been bringing clouds [...]“.
    holts7 says: (August 4, 2014 at 4:29 pm) “16.5% of the large state of NSW in Australia set coldest August Min temp records a few days ago…Adelaide in South Australia also set coldest August Min record for 126 years of data a few days ago…….“.

    The low Australian overnight temperatures seem to be from the high-pressure systems coming across at a higher latitude (further S) than usual. Northern NSW and Tasmania, which are north and south respectively of the current high pressure systems, had higher overnight temperatures. This weather system higher latitude is something that seems to be associated with El Nino, though we don’t definitely have an El Nino yet. Could the US temperatures also be associated with the weather systems (in the Death Valley case, clouds) coming across at a different latitude to usual?

  16. Steven Goddard pretty decisively demonstrated on his blog last week that the NCDC is adjusting the USHCN temp raw to final adjusted temp data with its v2 algorithm that almost precisely tracks the Keeling curve since about 1960.
    So despite this Death Valley record low , I am sure we will hear soon that the July and August temps in the US were the hottest ever recorded. And NCDC will have the adjusted temp dataset to prove it.

  17. I have some trouble with the record, at least to my first pass look at things.

    I thought the Death Valley station was that rattle-trap station relocated to capture high temperatures, but I asked http://weather.gov to take me to Death Valley, CA and it brought me to a USCRN station nearby. Okay, at least it’s nice to see them offering CRN data!

    The link to the “past 3 days” took me to http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=vef&sid=ISWC1&num=72&raw=0 and picking out hour data for yesterday I got:

         Time          Temp.   Dew  RH  Wind Precip  Precip Quality
                             Point     Speed  5 min  1 hour Control
         (PDT)           (f)   (f) (%) (mph)   (in)    (in)
    03 Aug 12:00 am PDT   99    49  19   G05   0.00              OK
    03 Aug  1:00 am PDT   98    50  20   G07   0.00              OK
    03 Aug  2:00 am PDT   98    50  20   G05   0.00              OK
    03 Aug  3:00 am PDT   95    56  27   G27   0.00              OK
    03 Aug  4:00 am PDT   93    59  32   G23   0.00              OK
    03 Aug  5:00 am PDT   90    57  33   G20   0.00              OK
    03 Aug  6:00 am PDT   86    64  48   G18   0.00              OK
    03 Aug  7:00 am PDT   84    65  53   G19   0.00              OK
    03 Aug  8:00 am PDT   86    62  46   G15   0.00              OK
    03 Aug  9:00 am PDT   87    65  48   G10   0.00              OK
    03 Aug 10:00 am PDT   85    63  47   G09   0.00              OK
    03 Aug 11:00 am PDT   85    61  45   G10   0.00              OK
    03 Aug 12:00 pm PDT   81    65  59   G05   0.00   0.01       OK
    03 Aug  1:00 pm PDT   78    69  75   G06   0.00   0.05       OK
    03 Aug  2:00 pm PDT   78    68  71   G11   0.00   0.03       OK
    03 Aug  3:00 pm PDT   79    68  68   G11   0.01   0.03       OK
    03 Aug  4:00 pm PDT   80    65  61   G07   0.00              OK
    03 Aug  5:00 pm PDT   78    70  77   G07   0.00              OK
    03 Aug  6:00 pm PDT   79    69  70   G05   0.00              OK
    03 Aug  7:00 pm PDT   79    69  71   G04   0.00              OK
    03 Aug  8:00 pm PDT   79    70  74   G05   0.00              OK
    03 Aug  9:00 pm PDT   80    71  74   G05   0.00              OK
    03 Aug 10:00 pm PDT   79    72  80   G04   0.00              OK
    03 Aug 11:00 pm PDT   79    72  79   G06   0.00              OK
    04 Aug 12:00 am PDT   80    72  76   G04   0.00              OK
    

    So, we can make a strong case that the high temp for yesterday was 99F.
    Is the Time of Observation not 0000, even for CRN sites? If we
    continue on:

    04 Aug 1:00 am PDT    81    67    62    G07    0.00      OK
    04 Aug 2:00 am PDT    81    69    68    G05    0.00      OK
    04 Aug 3:00 am PDT    81    69    67    G04    0.00      OK
    04 Aug 4:00 am PDT    79    70    73    G08    0.00      OK
    04 Aug 5:00 am PDT    78    70    77    G06    0.00      OK
    04 Aug 6:00 am PDT    79    70    75    G04    0.00      OK
    04 Aug 7:00 am PDT    79    70    73    G05    0.00      OK
    04 Aug 8:00 am PDT    80    70    70    G02    0.00      OK
    04 Aug 9:00 am PDT    81    70    70    G05    0.00 0.01 OK
    04 Aug 10:00 am PDT   82    70    66    G05    0.00      OK
    04 Aug 11:00 am PDT   85    69    59    G06    0.00      OK
    04 Aug 12:00 pm PD    87    66    50    G05    0.00      OK
    04 Aug 1:00 pm PDT    89    65    45    G08    0.00      OK
    

    So, perhaps this will wind up as a spectacular example of Time of Observation impacting the the raw weather data….

    REPLY: No, sorry you are way off here. The station of record is next to the Death Valley visitors center. The CRN station is a few miles away. The only reason you go it is that the web page mission for NWS is to provide “current conditions” and that is the only hourly reporting station they can use. – Anthony

  18. NCDC—– All of our algorithms are working as directed. All future summers will be hotter. That is not ice on the pond, merely a piece of plastic. Nothing to see here. Move on—–

  19. Has anyone consulted with Mann? He probably has tree ring data from inner Death Valley confirming it was hotter than ever over the last 1000 years…

  20. I have an inkling how it feels to be an Alarmist these days, for I made a forecast for the next thirty years back in the mid-1980′s that hasn’t panned out. Somehow, even before the AMO and PDO were talked about, I had tuned into the idea of a 60-year-cycle, and was convinced the period 1990-2020 would be like 1930-1960. With smug assurance I predicted another Dust-bowl, and a whole slew of east coast hurricanes. We are now 24 years into my prediction, and unless the next six years are totally wild my grade will be an “F”.

    O well. Back to the drawing board.

    The two main differences between me and modern Alarmists is that, first, I didn’t have billions of dollars to spend screwing up a functioning society, and second, I didn’t have anything to lose by admitting I was wrong.

    I didn’t like being wrong, but confess it did teach me a lot. In fact I’d advise young people to make forecasts just to learn as I have learned. (Also it makes you appreciate the better weathermen.) If you don’t make a forecast you don’t notice changes that you notice if you are expecting something different. You get focused-in on things that otherwise would escape your notice.

    For example, to have cool air settling down into the middle of the USA all summer is utterly unlike the Dust Bowl of the 1930′s or the mini-Dust-Bowl of the 1950′s. It grabbed my focus, and has me wondering things about the “Quiet Sun” and the possibility of another “Mini-Ice-Age.”

    I don’t see modern Alarmists even considering such possibilities. They are far too busy defending to even consider the possibility they might be wrong. I have the sense that they had better wake up, and wake up soon, or reality is going to reach out with crocodile jaws and bite them.

  21. This is wild – visit http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/vef/climate/DeathValleyClimateBook/index.php and click on “History Of Weather Observations” to get to http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/vef/climate/DeathValleyClimateBook/History%20of%20Weather%20Observations.pdf

    A small piece of a long tale of woe:

    During the early 1950s, problems began to develop with the weather observations taken at Greenland Ranch. After reviewing and comparing temperatures, officials from the Weather Bureau including the California State Climatologist came across a number of suspect temperatures that appeared inaccurate after consistency checks with the station at Cow Creek. In order to cross check observations more carefully, a thermograph was installed at the Greenland Ranch station on March 22, 1954. The thermograph could then be used to ensure the temperatures taken by the observers were accurate. One large source of the errors was found to be the observer at the time who had vision problems and needed eyeglasses to read the thermometers even in the daytime. The observer even opted to take observations at 7 PM in the dark. The weather bureau then recommended having the observations read during the evening before it became dark in March of 1954.

    On May 1, 1955 further problems with the observers at Greenland Ranch began when the observer decided to change the time of observation to a morning reading. Upon a station inspection visit in March 1956, the Weather Bureau learned the longtime observer at the Greenland Ranch was to retire and a new observer would be taking over. The new observer informed the Weather Bureau representative that he was trained to log the observations on the observer form one day back. The new observer stated he was very suspicious of how the previous observer was recording the observations but complied because the previous observer had been there a long time. On March 11, 1956 the observation time was changed back to the evening.

    It hasn’t been updated to mention the USCRN site, but there’s a good chance the NWS data comes from a 0700 reading made Monday AM at the old Cotton Region shelter.

    Check out http://wattsupwiththat.com/?s=death+valley for the full list of Death Valley posts at WUWT. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/06/30/it-seems-noaa-has-de-modernized-the-official-death-valley-station-to-use-older-equipment-to-make-a-record-more-likely/ deserves special attention.

  22. We also have seen the coolest weather in a long time, the local news said we just went through the coolest July in nearly 50 years (a couple of days didn’t even break 70).

    However, the high pressure dome that sets up south of here over Texas and brings us temps. in the 90′s and 100′s has finally managed to set itself up for good (which means strings of 90′s). My parents have told me before that if we haven’t seen a lot of 100′s so far, it’s nearly a safe bet we’ll see a string of them when school starts. Back in the cool year of 2008 for instance we made it all the way to the end of July without 100′s, but we then got a nice batch in August,

    We also had a fairly cool latter half of July last year, but it made up for it by staying fairly warm until October (and with it an unusually late end to tomato picking).

    It’s interesting to see Death Valley actually having tolerable temperatures in mid-summer, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it gets hot again, it’d be almost unheard of I imagine if it didn’t.

  23. Two notes:
    1) This might be a duplicate post, the first one disappeared. I’m glad I can edit comments in an external editor!

    2) While I was writing this Anthony was noting that the CRN station is not the source of the data for the NWS record, this poost is more in line with good ol’ Cotton Region Shelter fun and games.


    This is wild – visit http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/vef/climate/DeathValleyClimateBook/index.php and click on “History Of Weather Observations” to get to http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/vef/climate/DeathValleyClimateBook/History%20of%20Weather%20Observations.pdf

    A small piece of a long tale of woe:

    During the early 1950s, problems began to develop with the weather observations taken at Greenland Ranch. After reviewing and comparing temperatures, officials from the Weather Bureau including the California State Climatologist came across a number of suspect temperatures that appeared inaccurate after consistency checks with the station at Cow Creek. In order to cross check observations more carefully, a thermograph was installed at the Greenland Ranch station on March 22, 1954. The thermograph could then be used to ensure the temperatures taken by the observers were accurate. One large source of the errors was found to be the observer at the time who had vision problems and needed eyeglasses to read the thermometers even in the daytime. The observer even opted to take observations at 7 PM in the dark. The weather bureau then recommended having the observations read during the evening before it became dark in March of 1954.

    On May 1, 1955 further problems with the observers at Greenland Ranch began when the observer decided to change the time of observation to a morning reading. Upon a station inspection visit in March 1956, the Weather Bureau learned the longtime observer at the Greenland Ranch was to retire and a new observer would be taking over. The new observer informed the Weather Bureau representative that he was trained to log the observations on the observer form one day back. The new observer stated he was very suspicious of how the previous observer was recording the observations but complied because the previous observer had been there a long time. On March 11, 1956 the observation time was changed back to the evening.

    It hasn’t been updated to mention the USCRN site, but there’s a good chance the NWS data comes from a 0700 reading made Monday AM at the old Cotton Region shelter.

    Check out http://wattsupwiththat.com/?s=death+valley for the full list of Death Valley posts at WUWT. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/06/30/it-seems-noaa-has-de-modernized-the-official-death-valley-station-to-use-older-equipment-to-make-a-record-more-likely/ deserves special attention.

  24. Anthony and mods – I posted a second comment (twice) that has either evaporated or wound up in the spam bin. Not sure what WP found tasty about it….

  25. The cold front that came through last night was unusually strong for this early in the season. I think we could properly label it an early autumn dry cold front.

  26. Mike Jonas says:
    “Could the US temperatures also be associated with the weather systems (in the Death Valley case, clouds) coming across at a different latitude to usual?”

    Very astute observations. I wondered the same thing over the last week, watching the model guidance on this pattern but only from the Southwest US to the Midwest. The Cornbelt is in need of rain after a very cool but dry July.

    Not having tracked things upstream across the Pacific recently, I can’t say for certain but there is a decent jet stream that may have origins as you suggest and certainly has been much stronger than usual for this time of year arriving in the Southwest US with numerous waves/energy.

    This is the latest 200 mb chart from the NAM model. Blue shaded areas are the highest winds. The blue band aimed at the US Southwest is a jet streak/max associated with a subtropical jet coming out of the Pacific.

    http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/Image.php?image=data%2Fnam%2F00%2Fnam_epac_000_200_wnd_ht.gif&model=nam&area=epac&storm=&cycle=00&param=200_wnd_ht&fhr=000&group=Model+Guidance&imageSize=M&preselected_formatted_cycle_date=20140805+00+UTC&ps=model&scrollx=0&scrolly=0

    These waves will travel northeast, topping an upper level ridge in the US Rockies, then emerge in the Plains and Western Cornbelt, where they will cause copious rains as they track east/ southeast across the rest of the country.

    This is the expected 5 day rainfall totals:

  27. Ric Werme says:
    August 4, 2014 at 6:41 pm

    Can we deduce that it was cloudy that day? Higher RH and slight precipitation. Insolation again wins the day.

  28. pat says:
    August 4, 2014 at 4:35 pm
    is WUWT denying “climate”??? the alarmist side is getting uglier by the minute:

    4 July: Guardian: World’s top PR companies rule out working with climate deniers
    Ten firms say they will not represent clients that deny man-made climate change or seek to block emisson-reducing regulations
    Suzanne Goldenberg and Nishad Karim
    Public relations firms have played a critical role over the years in framing the debate on climate change and its solutions – as well as the extensive disinformation campaigns launched to block those initiatives.

    I bet they can’t name one “extensive campaign” — let alone a campaign involving a PR firm. For a list of 20-plus things that would be happening (but aren’t) if climate contrarians were actually well-organized and well-funded, see my WUWT guest-thread, “Notes from Skull Island” at

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/12/16/notes-from-skull-island-why-skeptics-arent-well-funded-and-well-organized/

    No PR firm is needed to get a billboard campaign going, just an ad agency. And the material for a billboard campaign needs no expertise to devise–it’s already available. Here are a few of mine:

    1.A flip-flopped hockey stick, looking like this /””, to reflect the current Plateau in the temperature trendline. The caption would be, “Who’s in Denial Now?”

    The stick would be transparently overlaid on a graph of the running mean of GASTA (Global Average Surface Temperature Anomaly), averaged from five sources. Flipping over the hockey stick turns the tables on our opponents in a clever and memorable way.

    2. Left-side text: “97%”
    Right-side text: “WRONG”
    Center graphic: the IPCC’s early-draft graphic of its four predictions vs. the observed Global Average Surface Temperature Anomaly (GASTA), showing its line near the bottom of the 95% confidence envelope of its projections. (There should be bold text: “95% confidence envelope.”)

    3. Caption: “Chicken Little’s Inconvenient Goofs”
    Four or six images with line graphs showing items Gore’s movie mis-predicted, such as:

    Hurricanes / tornados
    Polar Bear population
    Sea ice
    Drought / Flood
    Climate refugees from threatened islands
    Malaria

  29. @Winston says:
    August 4, 2014 at 3:29 pm

    I’d be interested to know where you got the Sajak quotes. I’ve heard that he is a more, shall we say, rational being than your quotes would indicate.

  30. @Winston says:
    August 4, 2014 at 3:29 pm

    I’m no special admirer of Sajak but below is a quote I found which would indicate that he is a bit more informed than one might suppose.

    Quote here http://www.businessinsider.com/pat-sajak-global-warming-racist-tweets-2014-5:
    ““Wheel of Fortune” host Pat Sajak ignited a Twitter frenzy Tuesday when he tweeted this controversial statement to his nearly 53,000 followers:
    I now believe global warming alarmists are unpatriotic racists knowingly misleading for their own ends. Good night.
    — Pat Sajak (@patsajak) May 20, 2014

  31. PS: 4. A chart of emissions of the developed vs. the developing world under two scenarios.

    Caption: If it’s affordable, it’s ineffective; if it’s effective, it’s unaffordable.
    ===========

    Ric Werme says:
    August 4, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    Anthony and mods – I posted a second comment (twice) that has either evaporated or wound up in the spam bin. Not sure what WP found tasty about it….

    Four links.

  32. Only 89 degrees in Death Valley.

    Someone’s AC might get a bit of rest. How will they survive?

  33. Caleb says:
    August 4, 2014 at 7:11 pm

    Caleb, I can identify with your comments, and really, had it not been for the intense debates that have been raging in Australia over many years as to the validity of the Inigo Jones long term weather predictions, and few other influences, I would have willingly adopted a similar likely outcome as the basis of a solid prediction.

    The other influences were a close relationship with weathermen of the day and contact with farmers who dealt with the everyday effects of the weather that ruled their lives, the curse of predictions that failed to live up, the crops that were planted but lost because of the seemingly unpredictable changes that have dogged our climate in Australia, bountiful, disaster, fire, floods, drought. We lived by the grace of the climate and the impact of weather. and that was the easy part, what we were unprepared for was the age of computerisation that should have made weather prediction easier and more accurate.

    What we were not prepared for was the rampant fudging of data, slight of hands bias and the competition for funding that corrupted rather than improved the process. Though, when one reads the 100 year History of the Australian Bureau of Meteorology, (The Weather Watchers) several chapters depict the increasing apprehension of the professional meteorologists at the leaps of faith and wild predictions being promoted to leverage monies from politicians for faster, bigger, best, ie, huge computers versus the human experienced weather expert interpretation.

    What we have seen is a verification of those early concerns, weather is now subject to political goals, massaged through the media for political effect. Perhaps we should thank Nature (weather and climate) for refusing the play the political games, is that the true Gore effect, weather and climate continuing to educate without bias and without computer fudging?

  34. F. Ross says:
    August 4, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    @Winston says:
    August 4, 2014 at 3:29 pm

    I’d be interested to know where you got the Sajak quotes. I’ve heard that he is a more, shall we say, rational being than your quotes would indicate.

    I believe those quotes were spoken sarcastically.

  35. rogerknights says:
    August 4, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    You may be right. I cannot tell for sure either way.

  36. Pat – all that means is the PR Copmpanies have invested in a whole lot of preset promotional material based on using the Fear of Global Warming/Climate Change to drive their business and they can’t be bothered with Naysayers on the other side. It’s purely a business case and they see where the MONEY is. It’s just business. Heck, CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) used the same ploy to drive listeners to their site yesterday: Come listen to our program at 0:00CXM, on CO2 DRIVEN CLIMATE CHANGE, the most important issue for mankind today!!!!

    Note, nots Syria, Lybia, Ukraine, ISIS, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Potential world wide spread of Ebola, Nations Economies crumbling, stock market crashing, unbelievable unemployment and poverty …
    nope – a few molecules of CO2 bumping into each other are the most serious problem the world has today.

    Wow. Have they gotten out of touch in those Ivory Towers. Time they were sold to the LOWEST bidder.

    pat says:
    August 4, 2014 at 4:35 pm
    is WUWT denying “climate”??? the alarmist side is getting uglier by the minute:

    4 July: Guardian: World’s top PR companies rule out working with climate deniers
    Ten firms say they will not represent clients that deny man-made climate change or seek to block emisson-reducing regulations
    Suzanne Goldenberg and Nishad Karim
    Public relations firms have played a critical role over the years in framing the debate on climate change and its solutions – as well as the extensive disinformation campaigns launched to block those initiatives.
    Now a number of the top 25 global PR firms have told the Guardian they will not represent clients who deny man-made climate change, or take campaigns seeking to block regulations limiting carbon pollution. Companies include WPP, Waggener Edstrom (WE) Worldwide, Weber Shandwick, Text100, and Finn Partners.
    “We would not knowingly partner with a client who denies the existence of climate change,” said Rhian Rotz, spokesman for WE,,.

    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/aug/04/worlds-top-pr-companies-rule-out-working-with-climate-deniers

  37. “Interesting, almost the same scenario of our past three summers in Australia. Summers that were observationally cool to inhabitants, and rather comfortable considering our experience of past sizzling summers in the drought era years!”

    Second that. Sydney was cool and wet last summer, almost never reaching 30. It had 2 hot days – a 40 and a 45, which was very unpleasant (for 8 hours till the tropical downpour).

    Can’t say I was shocked to see “hottest evah” from BoM but personally I rated it “coldest evah.”

  38. Adam in KS summarized us on the Great Plains perfectly.
    Us Texans *hate* that high-pressure bubble. I’ve more than once joked that we should cut a shipping channel the size of the Mississippi from Corpus to Uvalde to pop it.

  39. pat says:
    August 4, 2014 at 4:35 pm
    is WUWT denying “climate”??? the alarmist side is getting uglier by the minute:

    4 July: Guardian: World’s top PR companies rule out working with climate deniers
    Ten firms say they will not represent clients that deny man-made climate change or seek to block emisson-reducing regulations
    Suzanne Goldenberg and Nishad Karim
    Public relations firms have played a critical role over the years in framing the debate on climate change and its solutions – as well as the extensive disinformation campaigns launched to block those initiatives.

    PR firms like Saatchi provide the perfect type definition to “Spiv” and “Shyster”. They deal only in pure fraud and are incapable of relating to reality. Theirs is the industry of illusion. They would probably suffer an anaphylactic allergic reaction to honesty and truth that would make them puff up and discolour and probably due in a hugely entertaining manner.

    It is thus totally fitting and appropriate that they should be completely in bed with the CAGW community and hostile towards climate realists, skeptics and honest climate scientists. We dont need criminals on our side but the CAGW side do. What is the PR industry for? Why hire someone like Max Clifford (number 1 UK PR publicist, supporter of global warming and convicted pedophile). Only to promote lies. The CAGW side need Max Cliffords but we do not.

  40. That locale in Death Valley obviously needs some UHI enhancement. Parcel it out and call Century 21 Realty.

  41. Couple of questions
    One, is this record cool max temp a date record or month of August record like the rest of the world compare records?
    If so how long has this site been recording data?
    I suspect it is a date record which means it has little statistical significance if it were record cold or record warm and therefore jumping all over it as an example of cooling is pointless. Same goes if it were a warm record.
    If using a month record for 100 data years then beating 3100 recordings is far more convincing than beating just 100 date records.

  42. There may be a La Nina in the next few months. Already there is an Atlantic “La Nina”. When the Pacific one follows then global temperatures could head south.

  43. Dave Legeno should have postponed his Death Valley a month. Brave soul, but they didn’t name it Death Valley for nothing.

  44. Berkley Earth Station pages:
    “Greenland Ranch”
    36.4625 ± 0.0125 N 116.8684 ± 0.0075 W Elevation: -55.15 ± 4.00 m

    http://berkeleyearth.lbl.gov/stations/31318

    1911-2013, 3 Station Moves, 2 since 1990, 8 Empirical Break points. (2 since 1980))
    DegC / Century: 1.18 Raw, 1.29 after QC, 0.94 after Breakpoint.
    Regional Consistency “R value”: 0.60 Raw, 0.67 QC, 0.67 Breakpoint.

    “Death Valley”
    36.5000 ± 0.0500 N 116.9000 ± 0.0500 W Elevation: -59.00 ± 0.50 m
    (is this an artificial location? the evenness of the lat long is odd.)

    http://berkeleyearth.lbl.gov/stations/31347

    1911-1990 (why did it stop?)
    No station moves, 7 Breakpoints, 3 between 1960-1980, none 1980-1990.
    DegC / Century: 1.65 Raw, 1.76 after QC, 0.63 after Breakpoint.
    Regional Consistency “R value”: 0.67 Raw, 0.66 QC, 0.68 Breakpoint.

    Is “R value” really R or R^2. If R, then the R^2 are 0.36 to 0.44.

    I did not find any station labeled “Furnace Creek”

  45. forecast.weather.gov gives for Furnace Creek, CA: 36.45°N 116.87°W
    Berkeley Earth lists
    Greenland Ranch as 1.39 km from this Lat/Long
    “Death Valley” as 6.17 km away.

    USCRN SITE NEAR STOVEPIPE WELLS 1SW, CA (ISWC1)
    Elev: 80 ft; Latitude: 36.60194; Longitude: -117.14500

    http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=vef&sid=ISWC1&num=72&raw=0

    Aug. 4 Hi of 97 deg. Lo 78 deg F
    which is 24.6 km from “Death Valley” and 29.2 km from “Greenland Ranch”
    Berkeley Earth station record:

    http://berkeleyearth.lbl.gov/stations/31424

    June 2004 – Oct 2013.
    No station moves, No Break points,
    but there are 3 months with Quality Control issues; one in late 2006!
    There is a seasonal +2.2 to -3.5 deg C difference to the “regional trend”

    Another nearby station: COW CREEK
    36.5333 ± 0.0001 N 116.8833 ± 0.0001 W Elevation: -46.00 ± 0.05 m

    http://berkeleyearth.lbl.gov/stations/31364

    1934 – 1961
    one Empirical Break point, about 0.4 deg C about late 1957. And this is odd, look at the difference to regional expectation which is a seasonal +2 to -3.5 deg C.
    DegC / Century: 3.12 Raw, 2.63 after QC (3 months) , 1.18 after Breakpoint.
    Regional Consistency “R value”: 0.70 Raw, 0.68 QC, 0.66 Breakpoint. (it went down!)

  46. FWIW,

    The National Weather Service reports Reno, NV, only reached a high temperature of 66 degrees on Tuesday 5 August. The previous record for lowest high temperature was 73 set in 1891,

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