32 thoughts on “Bob Ward of the State of Confusion

  1. Love your crazy, zany mind as usual, Josh.

    I’ve long believed that only humour can crack ideological thinking because (I think) humour must reside in a different part of the brain than does logic. Humour allows breakthroughs.

  2. I’m in eastern Australia where it’s 10.45 pm on a Tuesday night so goodnight, Wyguy, and everyone else who are starting a new day.

    Zzz.

  3. A nice (unintentional) illustration that, for many people, understanding how Antarctic sea ice could grow while a portion of the Antarctic ice sheet could retreat is beyond comprehension. Throw a little real world complexity at people and an all to common reaction is to conclude that if they don’t understand it, it must be wrong.

  4. The hyperbolic story is on CNN’s front page right now. I just read the story and it ways “it may take several hundred years for this area to melt, if it does.” It also, in the first paragraph, states it’s due to “warm ocean currents and geographic peculiarities.” The article also clearly states that this is not uncommon or unprecedented. However, that didn’t stop CNN from posting a “breaking news” headline of MASSIVE ICE MELT APPEARS UNSTOPPABLE, all in red letters. A video of an animation is above the body of the article, complete with scary/ dramatic music over it. Unfortunately, for many voters, all it takes is the headline.

  5. Josh,

    The simplicity of the cartoon makes it an art form.

    A soundtrack accompanying your cartoon can be ‘It’s a Heartache’ by Bonnie Tyler.

    John

  6. @Steve

    Here is a related story…

    “Friday Cable Ratings: CNN’s 9PM Hour Hits Second-Lowest Ratings in Nearly 15 Years”

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/friday-cable-ratings-cnns-9pm-hour-hits-second-lowest-ratings-in-nearly-15-years/

    This is another good opportunity to remind folks…

    Just STOP using the left-wing, progressive media information outlets! Just STOP. Don’t watch them. Don’t link to their websites. Don’t intentionally access their links. Tell others how much (like me) you despise them. Their advertisers will eventually get the message. CNN is going down the tubes for a reason – no one trusts them any more and hence no one watches them any more. Likewise for ABCCBSNBC “news”…

    (And this includes the weather media such as the awful “Weather Underground”…just STOP using them!).

  7. JohnWho says:
    May 13, 2014 at 6:40 am

    I dunno John Witman.

    Perhaps some twiddling of the lyrics of “Ice, Ice Baby” would be appropriate.

    :)

    - – - – - -

    JohnWho,

    Might be so. : )

    John

  8. After reading the Antarctice “study” I am very encouraged. It not only worse than we thought, but unstoppable. I assume those who believe this will now turn their efforts to mitigation…..sarc
    Doug

  9. Once upon a time, in a land behind the moon, Brer Ward tripped over a cobweb and fell through his shadow to the opposite ends of the earth. “Mackie, welches war dein Preis?”

  10. [You have reset the record for "longest-link-posted-to-date" in WUWT. 8<) Mod]

    Google has a convenient URL-shortener service. Here’s how it works:

    1. Select and copy your long URL into your clipboard.

    2. Go to http://goo.gl/ (Just pasting “goo.gl” into your browser’s URL box and hitting return is sufficient.)

    3. Paste your URL into the box where the cursor is positioned.

    4. Click the Shorten URL button.

    5. Copy (Ctrl + C) the already “selected” short URL to your clipboard. (It’s formatted like this: http://goo.gl/tjzuZw)

    Google keeps all your long/short URL pairs on display on that page for you to re-use in the future. (It’s public, but you can hide any pair you want.)

  11. If one claims that the temperature in the stratosphere does not affect the climate are to a large error. Please look at Antarctica.

  12. The Antarctic ice melt is unstoppable — so what’s the point? We must stop all carbon emissions immediately, because it’s too late? Seriously, these guys are clueless.

  13. (y) ;-) Best in the early morning.

    One of the many back stories to the two almost published papers is that Eric (Rignot) has been harping on this for almost a decade in his rise to fame (mostly at AGU) and his feud with Jay Zwally.

    On another note, all glaciers have a seasonal cycle of dynamics, a combination of sliding on their (watery) bed and ice (glacier ice) deformation with some calving if terminated in water (sea or lake). The end of summer in Antarctica occurred roughly toward the spring equinox and all the glaciers were sliding at their maximum and of course the upper parts will feel to pull. By the early Antarctic winter the sliding will stop, along with pull and nothing will be noticeable until the next year’s end of summer when the sliding and calving are in full again.

  14. richard says:
    May 13, 2014 at 6:44 am
    CNN and this paper separated at birth….

    The B-52 Stratofortress as a WW2 bomber? The Eighth Air Force could have bombed the Nazis back to the stone age in a week with just one of those.

    But I suppose if a B-52 can be transported to the moon, at can go back in space and time to 1943 as well.

  15. If melting of the Antarctic will cause [sea] level rise, where was all the water when it was a lush green continent millions of years ago.

  16. Yes, one could shorten that long link above, but then no one would realize there are
    at least three short stories in that one link alone!
    By short stories, I mean six word ones like:

    We went solar; sun went nova.
    - Ken MacLeod

  17. “Published online in Nature Geoscience, research has found that temperatures along the Antarctic coast 15-20 million years ago were about 11 degrees warmer than what they are today”

    so with expansion of the water the seas should have been really high.

  18. Ward’s antics remind me of the child who is going to hold his breath until he gets his way.

    I wonder if everyone ignores him, will he pass out eventually?

  19. Rignot is just trying to ‘pull a Zwally out of the interferograms.’ A.g. Zwally’s comment about the Arctic Ocean without sea ice in 2010.

    Ha ha

  20. richard says:
    May 13, 2014 at 8:32 am

    The water was on the land as epicontinental seas & higher coasts. Sea level was high during the Eocene, before the onset of Antarctic glaciation, but even more so during the Cretaceous, when seaways covered North America from the Gulf to the Arctic.

    http://www.stromboidea.de/?n=People.RonBlakey

  21. Thanks Josh, but I just have to go into sarcasm here: Oh that EVIL reality, it never follows our wise and true computer simulations !!!!

  22. 8-)
    The only addition I could suggest would be to have “The Ship of Fools” stuck in the alarmism iceberg.

  23. New York Times front page article: Western Antarctic Ice shelf breaking up and going to sea, goes on to say a study shows global warming is the cause… Wow

  24. These questions are designed to provide examples of how empty the hype about sea level change really is and how empty all other facets of the Climate Change hysteria which are of a similar non factual or misleading basis such as found at http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs2-00/

    Q1. How much sea level change do you expect world wide should the arctic ice melt completely?

    Note this refers to ARCTIC ice which is floating ice. Therefore the answer to question 1. is ZERO as floating ice displaces its own weight in water, making no difference in any level change.

    The picture refers to Antarctic ice which rests on land and therefore would have a effect on sea level should it melt. Note your reference does NOT give a figure for sea level change for the Arctic.
    Although it appears to represent fact, on careful read. one realises that the reference (bove) is simply hypothesising that “should the Antarctic Ice cap etc. melt, and omits to mention as far as I can see, that total Antarctic ice has been and is INCREASING in volume.

    “The Antarctic Ice Sheet is projected to remain too cold for widespread surface melting, and to receive increased snowfall, leading to a gain of ice. Loss of ice from the ice sheet could occur through increased ice discharge into the ocean following weakening of ice shelves by melting at the base or on the surface. In current models, the net projected contribution to sea level rise is negative for coming centuries, but it is possible that acceleration of ice discharge could become dominant, causing a net positive contribution. Owing to limited understanding of the relevant ice flow processes, there is presently no consensus on the long-term future of the ice sheet or its contribution to sea level rise.”
    (b)(Climate Change 2007: Working Group I: The Physical Science Basis AR4)

    Q2. There is no doubt that should the Greenland ice cap melt completely there will be up to approx. 6 meters of sea level rise. What is the time period given by the IPCC in which the Greenland icecap is expected to completely melt?

    The period ascribed to this event in AR4 is “millennia”, (Being the plural of “millennium”) which means at least two thousand years. (Climate Change 2007: Synthesis Report)

    “Except for remnant glaciers in the mountains, the Greenland Ice Sheet would largely be eliminated, raising sea level by about 7 m, if a sufficiently warm climate were maintained for millennia” (Climate Change 2007: Working Group I: The Physical Science Basis AR4)

    In AR5 I see they have quietly changed this to “over a millennium or more ” (AR5 Summary for policy makers P 27)

    Interesting that they have almost knocked a thousand years off the melting time with some clever wording although they do not appear to be forecasting any increased rate as a result of any recent “scientific” research.

    Still think there is a prob from Antarctica?

    Cheers

    Roger

    http://www.thedemiseofchristchurch.com

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