NASA on ‘the big chill’ this winter: ‘In some places temperatures were 40°F colder than average’

Blistering cold air from the Arctic plunged southward this winter, breaking U.S. temperature records. 

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A persistent pattern of winds spins high above the Arctic in winter. The winds, known as the polar vortex, typically blow in a fairly tight circular formation. But in late December 2013 and early January 2014, the winds loosened and frigid Arctic air spilled farther south than usual, deep into the continental United States.   Animated video follows.

On Jan. 6, 2014, alone, approximately 50 daily record low temperatures were set, from Colorado to Alabama to New York, according to the National Weather Service. In some places temperatures were 40 degrees Fahrenheit colder than average. Now, an animation created from NASA satellite data shows just how the Arctic air brought a deep chill to the U.S this winter.

Watch the video for a guided tour of the event.

From: NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center
Video and images courtesy of NASA/JPL

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76 thoughts on “NASA on ‘the big chill’ this winter: ‘In some places temperatures were 40°F colder than average’

  1. Record cold spells are just weather. Hot spells however are of course dangerous man-made climate change.

    But if colder weather becomes normal, then that too will be caused by human activity, somehow.

  2. One possible side-effect of the displacement of Arctic air southward this winter is a record or near-record low extent of Arctic sea ice in September. And it will be blamed on global warming that has not happened for 17 years 8 months. You heard it here first.

  3. I have been enjoying myself reminding friends in the northern midwest (US) how darned cold it has been, but I have to admit that the cold air was displaced from the north. You can see this demonstrated on the Sea Ice reference page on this site, where a chart of Arctic temperatures from the Danes is on display. The Arctic has been significantly warmer than usual.

  4. Monckton of Brenchley says:
    April 7, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    Growth in multiyear ice might help offset that tendency, but we’ll see. You can be sure that the media will certainly tout an (overdue) super El Niño as “proving catastrophic global warming & the urgent need to combat it”.

  5. Video Animation would give more complete picture if it did show polar view as here ( NASA 2009), but to be fair it did mention Hudson Bay, which simultaneous with the other usual location above the central Siberia marks for an intriguing ‘coincidence’ ,

    REPLY: Right, so run off and complain to NASA about it rather than cluttering up threads here with stuff we can’t do anything about, sheesh! -Anthony

  6. I bet if we have even a slightly warmer than normal Summer they’ll blame it on the “Solar Vortex…”

  7. In the meanwhile the catastrophic human caused global warming seems to ‘boil over’ large areas with an average population density of 0.000001 person/km^2, such as, Amazon, Sahara, Pacific ocean, Atlantic ocean, Himalayas, Mariana Trench etc. Some try to convince us that returning back to and/or staying in poverty is the solution http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBE0RKbRbl4

  8. What do you suppose James Hansen has to say about all this record cold? I presume he’ll find some excuse to open his yap concerning the same.

  9. that’s why NYT’s Thomas Friedman wants to call it “global wierding”:

    CBS: Face the Nation Transcripts April 6, 2014: … Friedman, Cullen
    (SCROLL DOWN – PAGE 2) BOB SCHIEFFER: We’ll be back in one minute to talk about one of the most serious problems facing the world today, climate change…
    The unusual seems to be the norm these days with the weather, which bring us to the best-selling author of Hot, Flat, and Crowded, our friend, New York Timescolumnist Tom Friedman and Heidi Cullen, who is the chief climatologist at Climate Central. And they are here today because they’re both involved in our partner Showtime’s new documentary on climate change. It is called Years of Living Dangerously. Tom, this is a multipart series. You take part in one of the episodes. What’s the bottom line here? What did you all find out?
    THOMAS FRIEDMAN: Well, Bob, it’s actually a nine part series. And people can watch the first one tomorrow, actually, on YouTube, YearsOfLivingDangerously.com, get it for free. For me, it’s been really the most remarkable documentary project I’ve ever been involved with. I’m looking at the environmental and climate stresses in the Middle East.
    So I actually go to Syria and show how the drought in Syria is connected to the revolution. Get to go to Yemen, look at the first city in the world that may run out of water. And then Egypt to look how climate stresses were involved in the revolution there. Participating in the series, you know, we have Arnold Schwarzenegger, Matt Damon, Harrison Ford, Don Cheadle, Mark Bittman. Lesley Stahl from CBS. Remarkable group of people. The whole idea is to bring this home to personal stories. And it does amazingly effectively…
    HEIDI CULLEN: Well, you know, I think the series meshes very nicely with the I.P.C.C. reports, which have just come out. They basically show conclusively that climate change is very real. We’re experiencing it right now. And that it is manmade, that is primarily caused by the burning of fossil fuels, oil, coal, natural gas. And we’re already feeling the pain from it, right?…
    BOB SCHIEFFER: Well, help me with this. For example, the recent storms we’ve had, the thing that hit New Jersey, with Sandy and all of that. Is that the cause of global warming, the cause of climate change?…
    THOMAS FRIEDMAN: Let me put it in personal terms. So your son or daughter has a disease. And you go to a hundred doctors. 97% of them, 97 of a 100 say, “This is the cause and this is the cure.” And 3% say, “This is the cause. This is the cure.” That’s what it is on the climate science. 97% of experts say this. 3% say that. And conservatives are saying, “I’m gonna go with the 3%.” That’s not conservative. That’s Trotskyite radical, okay? That you would go with the 3% not the 97%.
    To pick up on something that Heidi said, I actually don’t like to use the term “global warming.” Because that sounds so cuddly. To a Minnesota, Bob, that sounds like golf in February. I much prefer the term “global wierding”, okay? …
    HEIDI CULLEN: We need to really move towards making this a nonpartisan issue here in the States. And there’s a great scene, actually, in the Years project, where Bob Inglas, former Republican congressman fro South Carolina, sits down with Michael Grimm, a Republican from Staten Island, where I grew up. Grimm has been dealing with the awful impacts of Sandy. And Inglas says to him, “You know what? I’m Republican. And I believe in climate change. You’ve just been through a terrible experience, where you’ve seen your community ravaged by, in part, climate change. Maybe it’s time to rethink this. You know, the Chinese certainly didn’t treat this as a partisan issue.” And I think that’s really the direction that we need to move in….

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/face-the-nation-transcripts-april-6-2014-pfeiffer-mccaul-friedman-cullen/

  10. milodonharlani says:
    April 7, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    Record cold spells are just weather. Hot spells however are of course dangerous man-made climate change.

    But if colder weather becomes normal, then that too will be caused by human activity, somehow.
    __________________________
    Record cold is evidence of climate disruption. It’s still your fault, so pay up.
    ////////////////////////////////////////
    On the other hand, global sea ice anomaly is above .5 million square kilometers. Arctic ice extent is within 2 std devs. of average and Antarctic ice anomaly at +1.2 MKm2 is greater than 2 std. devs. above average. It doesn’t look likely that Chris Turney will make another trip South aboard the Akademik Shokalskiy any time soon.

  11. I would not pay too much attention to the DNMI polar temperatures since historically they are very unstable and only reach/exceed the lower limits on rare occasions.

  12. Anthony,

    Yes, of course it was cold in the USA this winter. But it was rather warm in Europe. This really hasn’t got much of anything to do with anything.

    REPLY: be sure to repeat that when we have a heat wave this summer and I report on that and the MSM cites it as proof of global warming/climate change/doom. – Anthony

  13. Alan Robertson says:
    April 7, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    Catastrophic anthropogenic global cooling! Back to the future! Retro ’70s scaremongering.

    Sulfate aerosols! Yeah, that’s the ticket! We still need to freeze in the dark to appease the Goddess, who is angry at the mess we are making.

    Plus of course man-made global warming from evil CO2 also causes global cooling, when needed.

  14. OMG – Do you SEE how RED the planet is? Except for that small swirly cool blue bit, we’re burning the planet to a cinder!!!

  15. Very impressive. This is what happens when the natural cycle is cooling and apparently, enough so for over the last decade now, to completely offset the warming from greenhouse gases/CO2.

    With the PDO value shifting to negative around a decade ago, we are seeing global weather patterns that are similar to when the last time the PDO was negative………the 1970’s. (It was positive during the warming in the 80’s/90’s)

    You can watch a similar month to the one depicted in this video in the frigid Winter of 1976/77/

    Go to the link below and put in a starting date of 1976-YEAR MONTH-12 and DAY-25
    Hit the + above DAY to manually advance a day at a time from Christmas, through January 1977.

    If you want to make a loop of it, you should put in the ending date when you want it to stop at the bottom. I prefer to hit the + and – buttons as it allows for a close look for however long the viewer needs to examine each frame.

    http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/ncepreanal/

    During the frigid Winter of 1976/77, California also had a severe drought.

  16. CodeTech says:
    April 7, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    “OMG – Do you SEE how RED the planet is? Except for that small swirly cool blue bit,…”
    ___________________
    Here in flyover country, we’re about the only holdouts left against the Global Statists and POTUS is trying his best to change that.

  17. In Jan 06, the whole State of Wyoming seems to be an anomalous spur of coldness. WUWT?

  18. “This is what happens when the natural cycle is cooling and apparently, enough so for over the last decade now, to completely offset the warming from greenhouse gases/CO2.”

    So nobody gets the wrong impression that should be “completely offset the ADDITIONAL warming that was expected during the last decade by global climate models and CAGW theory, from the continuation of greenhouse gases/CO2 going up the entire time”.

    I know its warmer now than it was 150 years ago and I would “guess” half of the beneficial warming of 1 degree C came from the increase in CO2. Many of those that label me and others as deniers, don’t realize this.

    Our local paper has been very open minded in allowing me to write articles on weather and climate going back 30 years(when I was chief meteorologist at a local tv station).

    I’m grateful for their continued willingness to publish both sides of this issue at time when some are refusing to allow skeptics to make authentic contributions on science related to this political issue.
    However, they picked the title:
    “COMMUNITY COMMENT: Carbon dioxide increase not to blame for global warming”

    The implication was probably unintentional by them.

    http://www.courierpress.com/news/2014/apr/04/carbon-dioxide-increase-not-to-blame-for-global/

  19. Much to the dismay and loud d*nials of climatists, it is a further sign that we are, in fact cooling.

  20. As long as they ignore the fact that the polar vortex is part of the magnetosphere and is a hole into space, and controls the ozone hole, they will never have a model that works…

  21. Normal? Average? How do you determine those numbers when we have been keeping records for only 150 years or so? We simply do not have the perspective to make intelligent statements about “normal” and “average” weather phenomena.

  22. RE: Monckton of Brenchley says:
    April 7, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    I doubt very much the arctic sea-ice will be at low levels. In fact my hunch is we will see the exact opposite.

    I can see why you might feel the ice could have been weakened this past winter, living as you do in a local that experienced a surge of southerly winds towards the Pole. With so much arctic air roaring down south on this side of the Pond, it had to be replaced, and the the replacements rushed north over Europe. I felt sorry for my friends in England and Scotland, as I noted the Icelandic Low might as well have been called the “Britannic Low” this past winter, it was displaced so far southeast, and so often parked rainy gales over your Isle. Due to this southerly flow Barents Sea to your north had less ice than it has ever had, in the satellite era. However this is only a microcosm.

    Another microcosm was on the Pacific side, which also saw a sympathetic inflow of mild air as winter began, and also saw less ice than normal both north and south of Being Strait, at the start.

    Between these two pulsing inflows, (at times alternating and at times united,) was a flow right across the Pole from Siberia to Canada, also pulsating, and at times strong and at times interrupted. One thing this cross-polar-flow did was interrupt the Transpolar Drift, (which flushes ice south down the east coast of Greenland,) and instead pressed a lot of sea-ice towards Canada, where the ice is thicker than it has been in recent times. A second thing it did was chill the Bering Strait to a degree where the waters north and south of Bering Strait went from below-average to above-average ice-extent, despite the inflowing pulses of milder Pacific air. However the third effect is likely to be a surprise to many, if I am correct.

    My hunch is that, (besides winds flushing all the sea-ice out, as in 2007,) the main reason sea-ice shrinks or grows is water-temperature, under the ice. Furthermore I postulate that the best way to chill the Arctic Sea is to remove the protective ice, and expose the water to frigid winter winds.

    My pet theory is now facing a test. I couldn’t ask for more open water. Barents Sea was very open all winter.

    Both north and south of Bering Strait were very open for the first half of winter.

    Thirdly, the cross-polar-flow roaring from Siberia to Canada stressed and cracked ice all winter, creating leads and exposing the Arctic Sea to temperatures as low as minus-forty. (You can see all these “healed” cracks as daylight returns to the Pole and Satellites let us use our lying eyes.)

    Lastly, because the Icelandic Low was displaced so far southeast, the Gulf Stream was not helped along by southwest winds as much, and instead was often raked by arctic winds from the northwest. While I’m unsure whether the current itself can be deflected south, I surmise the water drifting north towards the top of Norway is colder and well-mixed, and, as it arrives in the arctic over the next few years, it will be less likely to contribute to melting and to resist freezing.

    Therefore I am willing to bet a nickle (and no more) that the ice-melt this summer will be less than many expect. I’ll furthermore risk a second nickle by betting that, (unless conditions dramatically change,) the refreeze of Barents Sea next fall will astonish many with its speed and magnitude.

    And if I am proven utterly and totally wrong, I will merely qualify myself as a genuine “Climate Scientist.”

  23. Peter White says:
    April 7, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    Anthony,

    Yes, of course it was cold in the USA this winter. But it was rather warm in Europe. This really hasn’t got much of anything to do with anything.

    REPLY: be sure to repeat that when we have a heat wave this summer and I report on that and the MSM cites it as proof of global warming/climate change/doom. – Anthony

    It was rather warm ina small part of Western Europe. Scotland had a very bad winter with record snow fall. the UK, Benelux, Germany and Northern France and Denmark didn see much of a winter but in the South of France, Spain, Italy, average temps were below normal,

    And all forgotten the incredible cold wave that delivered snow from Jerusalem to Egypt this winter and horrible conditions for the refugees living in the camps in Syria

    All we lacked was a Siberian cold wave for the reasons we didn’t have an Arctic cold wave in Europe but i tell you. A lot of heat was destroyed this winter.

    In fact we had below normal temperatures all over the planet, even on the SH .

  24. Elliott Althouse says:
    April 7, 2014 at 4:34 pm
    How can you use “blistering” as a descriptive adjective for “cold”?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    You need to spend some time outside in the cold at 20 or 30 below and you can find out about “blistering” cold. I have little feeling in my extremities from too much work and play in low temperatures.

    “Second degree Frostbite
    If freezing continues, the skin may freeze and harden, but the deep tissues are not affected and remain soft and normal. Second-degree injury usually blisters 1–2 days after becoming frozen. The blisters may become hard and blackened, but usually appear worse than they are. Most of the injuries heal in one month, but the area may become permanently insensitive to both heat and cold.”

  25. NBC News featured several “scientists” on a story about global warming Sunday night and if memory serves correctly, at least one was from NASA. Does NASA not publish the same data to everyone? Are there really experts who don’t know there hasn’t been any warming in over a decade?

    Yes, the world is warmer that an arbitrary baseline started in 1978, but that doesn’t mean it’s still getting warmer. In simple language, temps peaked years ago and haven’t increased. It’s not getting warmer.

    I don’t know how many times that can be repeated, but I’ll keep pounding my head against the wall until they get the message.

  26. THe animation also reveals why Alaska was wearing swim suits in January. Nice animation. I suspect some trees in the Canadian Northwest did not fair very well either.

  27. I thought the use of “blistering” was intentional since all weather comes from warming, hence the blistering. Forgot the (sarc). I once touched a pipe accidentally when filling a liquid nitrogen dewar. Much worse than a burn. I was not attempting to be critical of the post.

  28. Note Nasa’s brick red world outside of the polar vortex. They get it by having it go red by 55F. This is a left handed report on the cold. This is scandalous, so dishonest its worth protesting about. It hides the fact that it was also quite cool a summer in the southern hemisphere. Shame on a once great, now thoroughly corrupted agency.

  29. Re: Heidi Cullen…
    I love the “medical” analogy. We have one Earth. Medical science is built upon millions of independent trials to demonstrate safe and effective practices, and even those treatments are approved only after extensive tests on analogous systems are completed.

    Just a little thought experiment:

    I go to a doctor after experiencing a 0.5C increase in body temperature. The physician explains that it’s caused by too much oxygen, a gas that is known to create heat. The prognosis is grim. My body temperature is projected to increase dangerously and this will cause many of my essential systems to fail, so the doctor recommends the removal of one of my lungs.

    Am I wrong to be skeptical that such a radical procedure is necessary when I’m presenting such benign symptoms? When I learn that my body temperature has reached this level many times before, should I accept the doctor’s assurance that this time is different because he/she ran a simulation on a computer? If I waited a week and my body temperature remained stable, would I be a “medical denier” if I factored that into my decision not to act?

    As far as the 97% consensus, I can’t fit that into a thought experiment because it’s an absurd proposition. With no patients as a reference, no empirical data, and a series of simulations that are inconsistent with my progress so far, it would be impossible to get ANY responsible physician to perform the surgery. The medical analogy fails completely because of that field’s insistence on through research and double-blind trials before any treatment is approved. In fact, climate science has a lot more in common with the marketing of vitamins and supplements being utilized by quasi-medical therapists and nutritionists. (Magnets anyone?)

    Bad medical science gives us thalidomide babies. Bad climate science gives us ill-advised adventures in biofuels and expensive wind/solar boondoggles. A consensus is not a reason to accept either result as acceptable.

  30. THOMAS FRIEDMAN: Let me put it in personal terms. So your son or daughter has a disease. And you go to a hundred doctors. 97% of them, 97 of a 100 say, “This is the cause and this is the cure.” And 3% say, “This is the cause. This is the cure.” That’s what it is on the climate science. 97% of experts say this. 3% say that. And conservatives are saying, “I’m gonna go with the 3%.” That’s not conservative. That’s Trotskyite radical, okay? That you would go with the 3% not the 97%.

    What if those 97% had been 97% wrong?

  31. BTW the cryosphere image used in the LiveScience article shows that only definite areas are showing less Arctice sea ice, namely the Okhotsk Sea and the Barents Sea and along the eastern edge of Greenland. Thus this is hardly surprising since these areas are the corridor of advection of warm air displaced poleward by MPHs. Since we see very well the shape of the zones affected by bitter cold and their edges on http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/s4-10241.jpg there should be no surprise as to why Arctic sea ice extent in these zones is lower than average contributing to the lower winter extent in 2014. That NSIDC or Live Scinece would “discover” this is worrying about their understanding of lower atmospheric circulation dynamics and its relation to sea ice…

  32. Arctic sea ice comes and goes. Some years it is more expansive than others. I feel we should welcome a cold period,because it will ensure we will appreciate warmer weather later this year. We don’t want it to melt as the fresh water will alter the Gulf Stream. For the Northern Hemisphere of course.

  33. Monckton of Brenchley says:
    April 7, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    One possible side-effect of the displacement of Arctic air southward this winter is a record or near-record low extent of Arctic sea ice in September. And it will be blamed on global warming that has not happened for 17 years 8 months. You heard it here first.

    Moving the goalposts already? How sadly predictable.

  34. Monckton of Brenchley says:
    April 7, 2014 at 2:50 pm
    One possible side-effect of the displacement of Arctic air southward this winter is a record or near-record low extent of Arctic sea ice in September. And it will be blamed on global warming that has not happened for 17 years 8 months. You heard it here first.
    —-=======================================

    I looked at the DMI Arctic Temp records (above 80th northern parallel) and found that the winter of 2013/14 was the warmest Arctic winter since DMI records began in 1958, with the possible exception of 2012, which was a very close 2nd.

    http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php

    During the Arctic Vortex phenomena events this year, Arctic temps rose by +10C (imagine leaving your freezer door open–same effect), which obviously had a negative effect on Arctic ice thickness this year.

    I think you’re right about the possibility of seeing a low September minimum, however, the 2012 Arctic Ice record minimum was mostly attributed the record strong Arctic cyclone that pulverized the Arctic Ice sheet in August, 2012, that led to the record September minimum:

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/09/24/nasa-on-arctic-sea-ice-record-low-storm-wreaked-havoc-on-the-arctic-sea-ice-cover/

    If there is a low September minimum, which seems likely, you’re correct that the selective memory of the MSM will forget to mention the rare Arctic vortex phenomenon that caused record cold US/Canadian winter temps and subsequently record warm temps in the Arctic region.

  35. What I want to know about this is where was Big Al when all this was going on, because it does look like a major Gore effect.

    James Bull

  36. The climate shamans in Johannesburg (an ad hoc self-trained cycle-aware bunch) are again predicting a very cold winter here on the Highveld. The rains are continuing late and will do so for some time. The direct cause is the rain-drought cycle which is Metonic in origin (19 year lunar cycle). Rainfall will be above average for a couple of more years and then taper off to an ‘unprecedented drought’ in 2021. Everyone will have by then forgotten the ‘really unprecedented drought’ experienced in 1983, 2 cycles before.

    The extra rain padding the beginning and end of the summer growing season during the wettest portion of the cycle brings a lot of cooling. It will be bitterly cold in July-Aug with more snow than usual in Aug-Sept. While it is often cold enough to snow, there is usually no moisture available in mid-winter at the lower altitudes (1000-2000 m). However if anyone wants to ‘Ski Africa’ this year check out the conditions at the Rhodes ski lodge from time to time.

    http://www.drakensberg-tourism.com/rhodes.html

  37. All I know is I ran out of firewood – over 6 cords. This winter in Ohio sucked big time.

    I’ll wait for the spin that this has nuthin to do with nuthin, and I’ll giggle as usual.

  38. I would bet that Caleb has the right thought on the upcoming Arctic sea ice minimum. The current trend line for the ice extent has moved sideways for the last 5 days. Today,s DMI shows the Arctic temps sitting at the long term average. This is only the 3rd time in the last 100 days where temps reached average, with no movement below average anywhere. The year 2012 did a very similar pattern to this years movement. In 2012, the trend line moved off of the -2 sd border and continued on to stay close to the median line. The DMI chart for 2012 shows the winter trend Jan/Mar was all above average, until around the 112th day. After that the sea ice stayed robust for many months.

    Meanwhile, the Antarctic sea ice is off and running close to record territory.

  39. Blocking polar vortex also occurs in the south. You can see the polar vortex shifted at a height of 30 km due to changes in the ozone.

    The reason is the high level of of the galactic radiation clustered by the Earth’s magnetic field.
    Weak vortex longer causes the block at 500 hPa.

  40. Reply to Alan Robertson says:
    April 7, 2014 at 3:27 pm
    If Chris Turney wants to make another trip South I have a canoe and some sunscreen I can lend him.

  41. Looking at that graphic, one wonders what would have happened had it been over Europe. French vineyards would have suffered (but that’s ok as their wine has long since been good!), but maybe Spanish olive groves would have been hit. It could well have hit Spain hard in other ways too. In Britain, the BBC would have said it was the coldest winter “evah”. It’s funny how weather plays politics. Had it hit Europe, we probably wouldn’t be seeing the current situation in the Ukraine!

  42. Magma says:
    April 7, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    Moving the goalposts already? How sadly predictable.
    Thats rich, coming from the side that INVENTED goalpost-moving and cherry-picking, in addition to changing the rules and even threatening to just take the ball and run home to mummy (a la Weepy McKibben).
    What’s really predictable will be the public hand-wringing and cries of doom coming from the Warmists, whilst privately they cheer and high-five one another in glee with a one-season downward tick in arctic sea ice.
    Because, I guess, if some ice melts somewhere, then the Halt in warming (let alone cooling) doesn’t exist. Or something.

  43. Peter White says: April 7, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    Anthony,
    Yes, of course it was cold in the USA this winter. But it was rather warm in Europe. This really hasn’t got much of anything to do with anything.
    *******************

    Absolutely true, considering simultaneous offsetting experience on a global scale. And those publishing repeated head posts about the bitter cold in the USofA due to vortex activity are now fretting about the MSM’s coverage of potential further down-trending of Arctic ice and potential increases in the global temperature measurement driven by ENSO events. There’s a word for that mindset and behavior.

  44. Regarding “moving the goalposts”: I was going to submit a rebuttal comment to Magma, but decided instead to adopt a new policy of no longer arguing with liberals and alarmists; they’re remarkably impervious to both logic and truth, so it’s always a complete waste of time. Yes, “always.”

    (This new policy of mine could save me upwards of 30 minutes a day, if I’m able to sustain it.)

  45. Lawrence Todd says:
    April 7, 2014 at 3:30 pm
    I would not pay too much attention to the DNMI polar temperatures since historically they are very unstable and only reach/exceed the lower limits on rare occasions.
    ————-
    In other words, the Arctic has warmed up since the ERA40 (1957-2002) average temp. Not the fault of the people taking the measurements. Stop blaming the messenger and start wondering why the Arctic is so much warmer.

  46. Rod Everson says:
    Regarding “moving the goalposts”: I was going to submit a rebuttal comment to Magma, but decided instead to adopt a new policy of no longer arguing with liberals and alarmists; they’re remarkably impervious to both logic and truth, so it’s always a complete waste of time. Yes, “always.”

    My wife shared a story from here recently on FB and a commenter replied that WUWT was “not a credible source”, quoting The Grauniad as evidence. My comment to her was “it must be nice to have other people do your thinking for you”. I learned some time ago the same thing – there is no point in debate when someone’s mind is already made up. Personally, I determine credibility of ANY source based on looking at the source and comparing what it claims with reality. I find that to be much better than relying on the opinions of others.

    Much better is the (rare) case when you find someone actually willing to entertain facts that may differ from their preconceptions. We know a college student like this – and she has come to realize that much of her prior knowledge is questionable at best. THAT’S when someone starts learning to think for themselves.

  47. David vun Kannon says:
    April 8, 2014 at 8:48 am (replying to Lawrence Todd)
    ————-
    In other words, the Arctic has warmed up since the ERA40 (1957-2002) average temp. Not the fault of the people taking the measurements. Stop blaming the messenger and start wondering why the Arctic is so much warmer.

    Hmmmn. OK, so the Arctic has warmed the past years.

    1) I presume you means according to some “annual average”, right? After all, those DMI 80 north average daily temperatures since 1959 for the summer months have NOT changed even 1/10 of one degree since 1959! Further, those DMI 80 north air temperatures – up where the Arctic ocean actually is located – have been decreasing since early 2000 at ever-increasing rates.

    Now, you are correct, the DMI 80 north winter temperatures – those when average air temperatures are below 0.0 C – and when the sun is below the horizon for most of every day – are unstable and fluctuate very widely. They are higher than the average, and their do have a large standard deviation of daily temperatures. But, when the sun is shining?

    The high northern arctic air is NOT increasing!

    2) So what? Does a loss of Arctic ocean sea ice extents trouble you? It does me: Every square millions kilometers of lost sea ice between late August and the first of April each winter means that the planet loses even more heat than the exposed arctic ocean absorbs through increased long wave radiation losses, increased convective and conduction losses, and increased evaporation losses. But, every square kilometer of “excess” antarctic sea ice DOES reflect much more energy from the planet than the exposed arctic ocean can absorb – reducing the global heat budget even more.

    3. By the way. Today, with an Antarctic sea ice area anomaly of 1.28 Mkm^2, that little bit of “excess” Antarctic sea ice you are busily ignoring at 60 south latitude is now larger than the entire Hudson’s Bay up at latitude 60 north. Don’t like that comparison?

    That “excess” Antarctic sea ice area is now slightly larger than half of Greenland!

  48. “This investigation showed that Forbush decreases of GCR and solar proton events may influence the duration of elementary synoptic processes by changing the intensity of cyclonic and anticyclonic activity over the North Atlantic, Europe and Scandinavia. The results obtained are in good agreement with the variations of zonal pressure at middle and subpolar latitudes [Pudovkin and Babushkina, 1992] as well as with the variations of zonal circulation intensity during Forbush decreases and solar proton events [Veretenenko and Pudovkin, 1993].
    It should be noted that cyclonic and anticyclonic activity at middle latitudes, i.e., formation,
    development and movement of extratropical baric systems (cyclones and anticyclones) are closely related to the structure of the thermo-baric field of the troposphere (divergence or convergence of isohypses) and the temperature contrasts in the frontal zones [Matveev, 2005]. Thus, an intensification of cyclonic/anticyclonic activity suggests changes of these factors associated with cosmic ray variations under study and these changes, in turn, create more favorable conditions for the development of cyclones/anticyclones in the North Atlantic region. A possible mechanism of the effects observed in the evolution of mid-latitudinal baric systems may involve radiative forcing of cloudiness changes as well as latent heat release [Tinsley, 2008] with the consequent effects in the troposphere temperature field and, then, in the atmospheric circulation.
    Conclusions
    Investigation of durations of elementary synoptic processes according to the classification by
    Vangengeim was carried out taking into account an influence of solar proton events and Forbush decreases of galactic cosmic rays on the baric system dynamics at high and middle latitudes. An increase in the ESP duration for the western and meridional circulation forms were detected on the days following the onsets of solar proton events with energy of particles Ep > 90 MeV. During Forbush decreases of GCR with the amplitude δN/N > 2,5 % an increase in the ESP duration for the meridional form and a reduction in the ESP duration for the western and eastern circulation forms were detected. It was shown that the detected changes in the ESP durations are caused by the influence of cosmic ray variations under study on the development of North-Atlantic baric systems. These changes of ESPs result from an intensification of stationary blocking anticyclones over the East Atlantic, Europe and Scandinavia during Forbush decreases of GCR and of cyclone regeneration near Greenland after solar proton events. The results obtained seem to be of importance for meteorological forecasts based on the analysis of the type and duration of elementary synoptic processes.”

    http://geo.phys.spbu.ru/materials_of_a_conference_2010/STP2010/Artamonova_2010.pdf

  49. David vun Kannon says:
    April 8, 2014 at 8:48 am
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    There is no mystery as to why the Arctic has warmed.

  50. Rod Everson says:
    April 8, 2014 at 7:50 am
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    I started doing similar about 18 months ago. I will rebut a climate related thought, but I will no longer respond to their meaningless drivel.

  51. vukcevic says:

    April 7, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    Video Animation would give more complete picture if it did show polar view as here ( NASA 2009), but to be fair it did mention Hudson Bay, which simultaneous with the other usual location above the central Siberia marks for an intriguing ‘coincidence’ ,
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    Yes, polar views Vuks. Have you used the Earth Wind Map http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-68.21,86.17,177 ? Click and hold left mouse key on map and pull the polar regions into view, then zoom, so cool to watch the vortex and temp this winter, at the different heights available with that tool.
    Thanks for the link, http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/Arctic.htm to the geomagnetic link in the climate mess. Null points in the Earth’s field Vuks. Neutral points on the dayside..coupled with our nightside reconnection regime. There’s got to be horizontal components in here somewhere.
    X marks the null (neutral) points..

    As for neutral points in the solar field, that looks messy we need an expert for that interpretation..

    Seems the missing heat in the Northern Atlantic and Pacific couldn’t bust that vortex up this past winter, though it appeared as though they had a good squeeze at it.

  52. They’re still skiing Rib Mt. Wausau, WI until this weekend.. whoa..

    Granite Peak Snow Report
    REOPENING FOR OUR FINAL WEEKEND: April 11th – April 13th
    Friday: 9-9 Saturday: 9-9 Sunday: 9-4

    We have abundant snow and with several feet of base on the entire mountain!! The weather is perfect for spring skiing! We have so much snow that we will reopen for the weekend, Friday – Sunday, April 11th – 13th.

    http://www.skigranitepeak.com/mountain/index.cfm?sub=liftStatus

  53. Alarmists seem to be more interested in arguing for the sake of arguing. This blog contains some very informed people who have knowledge, degrees and experience, and don’t find Al Gore or the UNIPCC weak AGW hypothesis correct or anyone who supports their fruitless UNCCF. I spend hours on this blog, every day, and thank goodness Anthony closed comments to shut up Poptech et al, arguing about petty things such as putting ‘or’ in the text. Actually at my university and/or placed in text was frowned on as it was indecisive. Double dipping.
    Anyway, enjoy your skiing season America.

  54. RACookPE1978 says:
    April 8, 2014 at 9:53 am
    Hmmmn. OK, so the Arctic has warmed the past years.

    1) I presume you means according to some “annual average”, right?

    No, not right. I was referring to the same thing that Lawrence Todd was in his original comment. This year, the T1279 line has been above the ERA40 line for the first 100 days of the year. I agree that summer air temps above 80N are flat. The reason is that all the heat goes into raising the temperature of the ice or perhaps melting it. I would expect that we will only start to see significant rises in summer air temps after we see significant ice loss above 80N.

    2) So what? Does a loss of Arctic ocean sea ice extents trouble you? It does me:

    Well, I’m glad we agree on that!

    3. By the way. Today, with an Antarctic sea ice area anomaly of 1.28 Mkm^2, that little bit of “excess” Antarctic sea ice you are busily ignoring at 60 south latitude is now larger than the entire Hudson’s Bay up at latitude 60 north. Don’t like that comparison?

    Why wouldn’t I like that comparison? If it is cooling the planet, it is a good thing.

  55. @ren says:
    April 7, 2014 at 11:06 pm: Ren, would you please tell us what effects this has on weather around the Antarctic and southern temperate seas and lands? Also, what drives these effects, such as changes in cloudiness? Thanks, Brett Keane, NZ

  56. Further to the above, Ren: So, are we Southerners looking at further multiple frigid bursts for a long time? I note the very rapid sea ice growth here. And the Arctic sea ice seems to have grown over the last 3 days – interesting, and not unexpected I thought? Brett Keane

  57. The Antarctic sea ice set an all time record high for the 98th day of the year. The extent was 100K+ larger than in 2008, which was the previous record holder. The current sea ice anomaly is sitting in 5th place as of now, despite the fact that the minimum only ended 1 month ago. How high can it go?

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