A look at the behind the scenes legal battle with the EPA over the 'social cost of carbon' and looming carbon tax

epa-logo[1]WUWT has been granted exclusive first access to this new legal document challenging the EPA’s proposed use of calculations on SCC.

While this submission to OMB from Attorney Menton may look forbiddingly legalistic document to many WUWT readers, a number of you may well have signed one or more of the Amicus Briefs and other materials cited in it.It is important to read this because it provides a window into the future of a potential carbon tax in the USA.

I consider it a “must read” for those of you who are very concerned about the EPA’s current and proposed CO2 –related regulations. EPA uses its Social Cost of Carbon estimates to justify all such regulations. And, these estimates are also being used as recommended starting points for future carbon taxes. Enough said as to why it makes sense to read and think about the submission?

If not, you will note it begins by showing that using IPCC’s own words, its estimates of Climate Sensitivity must be treated using what  the mathematics of decision theory would call “under “Complete Ignorance Uncertainty.” Therefore, EPA’s reliance on IPCC is hardly justified.

Next, it argues that, in the court room, EPA’s own Endangerment Finding was predicated on three easy to understand “Lines of Evidence,” where each has now been shown to be invalid.

The three lines of evidence used by the EPA are A. B. and C.

The hot spot has not appeared, surface temperatures are stalled, and climate models aren’t modeling reality, yet, in the arcane world of the court system, EPA presses on as if these problems don’t exist.

Finally, it points out that the methodology now being used to calculate the SCC estimates is total nonsense for EPA’s purposed use, yet they are being considered “good to go” at this stage of the game.

Attorney Francis Menton provides this introduction:

OMB is currently seeking submission of comments with regard to the report titled “Technical Update of the Social Cost of Carbon” document dated November 26, 2013. This document is the precursor for planned regulatory actions in the Administration’s ongoing war against carbon-based energy, and potentially also for legislative actions that could include a carbon tax.

I submitted a comment letter to OMB late last week, which you now have. The comment letter mainly addresses the climate sensitivity issue. It address both IPCC’s science arguments and those of EPA. The counter argument to EPA’s Endangerment Finding is based on science arguments spelled out in three Amicus briefs, one submitted to the DC Circuit and two others to the U.S. Supreme Court in connection with the so-called Greenhouse Gas case that was argued today in the Supreme Court.   I was the lawyer in the Merit Stage Supreme Court Amicus, where I represented a group of scientists and economists.

I hope your readers find this submission interesting and informative.

Here is the submission:

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Francis J. Menton, Jr.

Attorney at Law

787 Seventh Avenue

New York, New York, 10019

Ms. Mabel Echols

NEOB, Room 10202

725 17th Street, N.W.

Washington, D.C. 20503

Re: OMB request for public comments (“Request for Comments”) (https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/11/26/2013-28242/technical-support-document-technical-update-of-the-social-cost-of-carbon-for-regulatory-impact) as to Technical Update of the Social Cost of Carbon for Regulatory Impact Analysis Under Executive Order 12866, November 26, 2013

Dear Ms. Echols:

OMB’s Request for Comments states a particular interest in comments on:

The selection of the three IAMs for use in the analysis and the synthesis of the resulting SCC estimates, as outlined in the 2010 {Technical Support Document } TSD, the model inputs used to develop the SCC estimates, including economic growth, emissions trajectories, climate sensitivity and intergenerational discounting;

The present Comment focuses solely on Climate Sensitivity, which is obviously the most important parameter in the SCC analysis process as currently defined, and about which there has been much debate.

In the Request for Comments, OMB makes several statements describing how its SCC estimates were derived, and that therefore inform this Comment. Among those statements are the following:

The current estimate of the social cost of CO 2 emissions (SCC) has been developed over many years, using the best science available, and with input from the public. . . .

Recognizing that the models underlying the SCC estimates would evolve and improve over time as scientific and economic understanding increased, the Administration committed in 2010 to regular updates of these estimates. . . .

The TSD (Technical Support Document: Social Cost of Carbon for Regulatory Impact Analysis Under Executive Order 12866, Interagency Working Group on Social Cost of Carbon, United States Government, February 2010), at page 4, gives information on the key assumptions from which the SCC estimates were derived. It states that:

III. Approach and Key Assumptions

. . .

It is important to recognize that a number of key uncertainties remain, and that current SCC estimates should be treated as provisional and revisable since they will evolve with improved scientific and economic understanding. The interagency group also recognizes that the existing models are imperfect and incomplete. . . .

The U.S. Government will periodically review and reconsider estimates of the SCC used for cost-benefit analyses to reflect increasing knowledge of the science and economics of climate impacts, as well as improvements in modeling. In this context, statements recognizing the limitations of the analysis and calling for further research take on exceptional significance. The interagency group offers the new SCC values with all due humility about the uncertainties embedded in them and with a sincere promise to continue work to improve them.

At page 5, the TSD then describes the methodology by which the SCC estimates were derived:

A. Integrated Assessment Models

We rely on three integrated assessment models (IAMs) commonly used to estimate the SCC: the FUND, DICE, and PAGE models (1).. . .

These models are useful because they combine climate processes, economic growth, and feedbacks between the climate and the global economy into a single modeling framework. . . . There is currently a limited amount of research linking climate impacts to economic damages, which makes this exercise even more difficult. Underlying the three IAMs selected for this exercise are a number of simplifying assumptions and judgments reflecting the various modelers’ best attempts to synthesize the available scientific and economic research characterizing these relationships. . . .

The three IAMs translate emissions into changes in atmospheric greenhouse concentrations, atmospheric concentrations into changes in temperature [emphasis added], and changes in temperature into economic damages. . . . These emissions are translated into concentrations using the carbon cycle built into each model, and concentrations are translated into warming based on each model’s simplified representation of the climate and a key parameter, climate sensitivity. Each model uses a different approach to translate warming into damages. Finally, transforming the stream of economic damages over time into a single value requires judgments about how to discount them.

From the direct quotes above, it is clear that the SCC values that are derived from this process are critically dependent on “a key parameter, climate sensitivity” the value of which in turn is completely unknown. To illustrate, uncertainty about even the expected value of this parameter was still so high that, in late 2013, no “best estimate” could even be made. In fact, the current Request for Comments states that it relies on information from the most recent IPCC Report, AR5 of October 2013:

The revised Technical Support Document that was issued in November, 2013 is based on the best available scientific information on the impacts of climate change. We will continue to refine the SCC estimates to ensure that agencies are appropriately measuring the social cost of carbon emissions as they evaluate the costs and benefits of rules. (Printed October 2013 by the IPCC, Switzerland. Electronic copies of this Summary for Policymakers are available from the IPCC website www.ipcc.ch and the IPCC WGI AR5 website www.climatechange2013.org. or http://www.climatechange2013.org/images/uploads/WGI_AR5_SPM_brochure.pdf © 2013 Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change)

However, the very IPCC Report being relied on concedes at footnote 16 on page 14 that “No best estimate for equilibrium climate sensitivity can now be given . . . .” From page 14 of Climate Change 2013, The Physical Science Basis, Working Group I Contribution to the Fifth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Summary for Policymakers:

The equilibrium climate sensitivity quantifies the response of the climate system to constant radiative forcing on multi-century time scales. . . .Equilibrium climate sensitivity is likely in the range 1.5°C to 4.5°C (high confidence), extremely unlikely less than 1°C (high confidence), and very unlikely greater than 6°C (medium confidence) 16. . . .

Footnote16: No best estimate for equilibrium climate sensitivity can now be given because of a lack of agreement on values across assessed lines of evidence and studies. (Emphasis added.)

This footnote 16 literally means that as recently as late last year, given the scientific information available, the IPCC did not deem it possible to develop a credible “best estimate for equilibrium climate sensitivity.” This statement is extremely relevant in that this climate sensitivity parameter is obviously the most important parameter to the entire SCC analysis. Mathematically speaking, what does not being able to provide a Best Estimate for the equilibrium climate sensitivity imply? First, it means that IPCC is clear that it has not been able to develop a credible subjective probability density function for the equilibrium climate sensitivity parameter. Second, it means that the IPCC admits that it does not have a credible mean, mode or median value of the equilibrium climate sensitivity parameter. In the mathematics of Decision Theory, this situation is called Complete Ignorance Uncertainty.

It should be obvious that no SCC estimates should be published until a credible climate sensitivity probability distribution is developed. This multi- agency effort has relied on the IPCC work, but IPCC’s own results imply that the U.S. government should stop publishing any estimates of SCC until such a credible distribution exists.

Furthermore, the U.S. should base its SCC on its own estimates of this critical parameter. In its finding, EPA relied on the claim by IPCC of 90-99% certainty that observed warming in the latter half of the twentieth century resulted from human activity. EPA bases its own 2009 Endangerment Finding on what it calls three “lines of evidence,” all derived from IPCC work. 74 Fed. Reg. 66518. However, each of these three lines of evidence has been shown to be invalid by empirical data cited in a recently submitted merit stage Amicus submitted to the Supreme Court in case UARG v. EPA. This Amicus can be found at

http://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/publications/supreme_court_preview/briefs-v2/12-1146_amicus_pet_scientists.authcheckdam.pdf

Three quotes from this brief regarding each of the three Lines of Evidence are in order:

There is no longer any doubt that the purported tropical “hot spot” simply does not exist. Thus, EPA’s theory as to how CO2 affects global average surface temperature—EPA’s first line of evidence—has been falsified.

Those data thus demonstrate that EPA’s second line of evidence—the claim that there has been unusual warming on a global, this is, worldwide, basis over the past several decades—is invalid.

The models EPA relied on as its third line of evidence are invalid. That is not surprising because EPA never carried out any published forecast reliability tests. And, as discussed above, EPA’s assumed Greenhouse Gas Fingerprint Theory simply does not comport with the real world. Thus, models based on that theory should never have been expected to be valuable for policy analysis involving an Endagerment Finding that so critically affects American energy, economic, and national security.

With each of EPA’s three Lines of Evidence purporting to support their Endangerment Finding shown to be invalid, EPA has no proof whatsoever that CO2 has a statistically significant impact on Global Temperatures. In fact, many scientists feel no such proof exists. A Cert Stage Amicus brief to the Supreme Court also regarding UARG v. EPA stated as follows (at pp. 20-21; http://sblog.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/GW-Amicus-2013-05-23-Br-of-Amici-Curiae-Scientists-ISO-Petitions-fo…2.pdf )

Amici believe that no scientists have devised an empirically validated theory proving that higher atmospheric CO2 levels will lead to higher GAST. Moreover, if the causal link between higher atmospheric CO2 concentrations and higher GAST is broken by invalidating each of EPA’s three lines of evidence, then EPA’s assertions that higher CO2 concentrations also cause sea-level increases and more frequent and severe storms, floods, and droughts are also disproved. Such causality assertions require a validated theory that higher atmospheric CO2 concentrations cause increases in GAST(2). Lacking such a validated theory, EPA’s conclusions cannot stand. In science, credible empirical data always trumps proposed theories, even if those theories are claimed to (or actually do) represent the current consensus.

Footnote 2: Indeed, empirical data also shows that the claim that there have been such phenomena is itself invalid. Brief of Amici Curiae Scientists in Support of Petitioners Supporting Reversal, at 22-26, Coalition for Responsible Regulation, Inc. v. Environmental Protection Agency, No. 09-1322 (CADC June 8, 2011), ECF No. 1312291.

In fact, EPA has ignored this and earlier warnings that an Endangerment Finding could be flawed. On October 7, 2009, thirty-five very well regarded scientists put a letter to EPA in its associate docket. See 74 Fed. Reg. 18886 (Apr. 24, 2009). Its recommendation was a follows:

Recommendation

We feel strongly that the EPA must not only rigorously address all four of the additional questions outlined at the outset, but also deal with at least the 18 supporting issues. As can be clearly seen by an analysis of the different fields of knowledge and academic skills required to answer the 18 detailed questions listed above, no one scientist should feel comfortable answering each and every question. And yet, without thoughtful, fully-informed judgments on all of the questions by the scientists who are expert in the particular issue area, the EPA should not feel comfortable issuing an Endangerment Finding in support of CO2 regulation. Because of the need to have only those highly qualified to provide answers to each of the questions outlined above, we strongly suggest that the EPA grant the U.S. Chamber of Commerce Petitions, and in particular, adopt its recommendation regarding the use of the an on-the-record hearing conducted pursuant to 5 U.S.C. §§ 556-57.

While following such an analysis process may well be more arduous than planned, the implications of ill-founded CO2 regulation could be truly catastrophic. Hardly a day goes by without another prominent scientist joining the ranks of those who reject the conclusion of the IPCC that the primary driver of the Earth’s climate system is CO2 emissions from human use of fossil fuels rather than other natural forces.

The EPA has the authority to hold on-the-record hearings under the Clean Air Act using procedures based on 5 U.S.C. §§ 556-57. As the Administrative Conference of the United States said, such authority should be exercised whenever (a) the scientific, technical, or other data relevant to the proposed rule are complex, (b) the problem posed is so open-ended that diverse views should be heard, and (c) the costs that errors may impose are significant. See 1 C.F.R. § 305.76-3(1) (1993). The Chamber noted in its petition that “it is hard to imagine a situation where each part of this test is more easily met.” We concur and urge the EPA to hold a formal, on-the-record hearing before proceeding with any proposed Endangerment Finding.

EPA never responded to this letter. One can only hope that this multi-agency effort steps back from its current approach of reliance on IPCC and other clearly biased parties and takes a hard look at whether there is truly any proof that, in the real world, rising atmospheric CO2 concentrations impact global temperatures to a measurable degree. At this point, there would appear to be no such proof. This implies that the SCC project should either be cancelled or at the least put on hold until this matter is resolved.

Regarding the importance of using unbiased parties, the September 26, 2011 EPA Inspector General’s Procedural Review of EPA’s Greenhouse Gases Endangerment Finding Data Quality Processes, which was also filed in Coalition for Responsible Regulation v. EPA, No. 09-1322, is highly relevant. This document catalogues the procedural deficiencies found by the EPA Inspector General regarding the EPA’s peer review and data review methodologies used in promulgating EPA’s December 15, 2009 Endangerment Finding on greenhouse gases including CO2 emissions. Like the October 7, 2009 scientists’ letter quoted above, this review suggested that the EPA could have used a Science Advisory Board mechanism to avoid such deficiencies. Specifically, it stated that:

EPA did not conduct a peer review of the TSD that met all recommended steps in the Peer Review Handbook for peer reviews of influential scientific information or highly influential scientific assessments. EPA’s peer review policy states that ‘for influential scientific information intended to support important decisions, or for work products that have special importance in their own right, external peer review is the approach of choice’ and that ‘for highly influential scientific assessments, external peer review is the expected procedure.’ According to the policy, external peer review involves reviewers who are ‘independent experts from outside EPA.’ The handbook provides examples of ‘independent experts from outside EPA,’ that include NAS, an established Federal Advisory Committee Act mechanism (e.g., Science Advisory Board), and an ad hoc panel of independent experts outside the Agency. The handbook lays out a number of procedural steps involved in an external peer review. Id. at 44.

It would certainly seem that this multi-agency effort should not proceed without delving into the facts involving climate sensitivity estimates and EPA’s Endangerment Finding. Over-reliance on the IPCC analysis must stop due to obvious inherent bias in keeping this wealth transfer mechanism alive.

To illustrate at Climate Day at the recent World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, an annual policy-themed gathering of the global elite, a highlight was a panel focused on the link between climate change, economic growth and poverty reduction, featuring former Vice-President Al Gore, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, World Bank President Jim Yong Kim, Microsoft founder Bill Gates, Unilever CEO Paul Polman, Nigerian Finance Minister Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala and Norwegian Prime Minister Erna Solberg.

Not a single panelist noted that attempts at climate change mitigation through governments’ forcing curtailed use of fossil fuels could conflict with their poverty reduction efforts. To quote from the merit stage Amicus brief mentioned above:

Meanwhile the United States is on the cusp of an energy revolution of hydrocarbons from unconventional oil and natural gas sources that is having the effect of rapidly increasing the supply and decreasing the price of carbon-based energy. See, e.g., IHS, American’s New Energy Future: The Unconventional Oil and Gas Revolution and the U.S. Economy, Volumes I, II, and III, September 2013. IHS sees the energy revolution as adding millions of jobs and hundreds of billions of dollars annually to the U.S. economy, all based on burning carbon fuels and emitting CO2 into the atmosphere. EPA looks upon this prospect with horror, and the stationary source PSD permitting program is precisely the means it sees available to stop it before it can get too far.

Artificially raising the price of energy is the same thing as impoverishing the American people. It is shocking and disgusting that our government would intentionally pursue such a goal, particularly without any scientific basis whatsoever to do so . . . .

Finally, the currently calculated SCC estimates are being used to justify proposed EPA regulations, and also as input regarding proper carbon tax levels should a future Congress elect to move in this direction. Even assuming that the proposed climate sensitivity estimates were scientifically validated — which has been shown above not to be the case – an appropriate U.S. carbon tax trajectory should not be based solely on what economists call externalities, even while ignoring direct effects on jobs and wealth generation. And, these SCC externality estimates are for the entire world, not just the U.S.

Clearly, America’s initial conditions in terms of its fossil fuel resources, its economic growth prospects, its debt levels, and so forth, matter, if the government is going to arbitrarily increase U.S. energy prices via such carbon taxes. And, it matters a great deal what other key countries are assumed to do as well in this regard. In short, for many reasons, the current SCC estimates are not only worthless; they are extremely dangerous to put forward by this task force as credible input to U.S. energy, economic and national security-related policy analyses.

Thank you for your consideration.

Very truly yours,

Francis J. Menton, Jr.

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This letter is also available in PDF form here: EF_OMB_Menton_Letter022014Final

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jdgalt
February 24, 2014 4:54 pm

The question boils down to politics. Will the Supreme Court once again just handwave the facts away and say we have to defer to EPA’s determinations? If so, it’s time to start impeaching justices.

Bill H
February 24, 2014 5:07 pm

“EPA uses its Social Cost of Carbon estimates to justify all such regulations.”
In non-liberal speak this means that they will be the judge and how they feel is right, evidence be dammed. Makes me feel like were looking down the barrel of gun… just waiting for it to go off because of how some one feels….
Social justice is no form of justice.. It deprives one of their rights and trods upon them as door mats. The “perceived wrong” is all they need to proclaim you need to have it done to you.

george e. smith
February 24, 2014 5:08 pm

Well, one wonders, whether such efforts will ever get a fair hearing, but it is encouraging that there are those familiar with the system, who are willing to make the effort.
I would be happy, if the powers that be would simply acknowledge that earth rotates on its axis, once in 24 hours, and thus can never reach any thermodynamic equilibrium condition. None of the seventeen or so models seem to take note of this simple fact. The climate, does NOT average, the daily weather events.

tango
February 24, 2014 5:17 pm

WARNING don’t go down the path that Australia has done our carbon tax is destroying our way of life because most of our manufacturing base is moving to china please read what is happening to us

Brian H
February 24, 2014 5:19 pm

The court case exists because the EPA simply ignores input, however framed, and pursues the goal of increasing the cost of producing CO2. Will it also ignore any adverse court ruling?

albertalad
February 24, 2014 5:23 pm

This argument before the courts boils down to matters of law – as I understand this reading the sole argument is whether or not the EPA has the authority to enact this law, nothing more. What this law is based on is not in question. Therefore, EPA will win this case.

hswiseman
February 24, 2014 5:26 pm

No reason to be optimistic. Standard of review for administrative action is tipped heavily towards the regulators. EPA can be dead wrong on the facts as long as the regulations are not arbitrary or capricious. The thinnest thread of justification for the regulation is usually sufficient to satisfy this requirement. When the EPA wins, steel yourself for the inevitable chorus of warmists calling for the imprisonment of ‘deniers’.

February 24, 2014 5:29 pm

I hope SCOTUS asks a few simple questions;
Is there a difference between Carbon and Carbon Dioxide. please explain?
Why always say Carbon when you mean to say Carbon Dioxide that is just as easy to say?
Isn’t Carbon Dioxide plant food?
How long has the climate of the Earth been changing and do you really think you can stop it from changing?
Easy questions like that.

Bill H
February 24, 2014 5:31 pm

The EPA must use scientific parameters according to its own rules, the same rules they failed to follow in declaring the endangerment finding. this will be the question the court must answer. if they followed the rules and backed them up with facts as their rules demand they should win. But as we know, they did not and they were warned..
This will be a coin toss.. As I posted above this will come down to feelings, and that is wrong. How far our judicial system has fallen since the inception of our Constitution is sickening..

M. Hastings
February 24, 2014 5:31 pm

albertalad says:
February 24, 2014 at 5:23 pm
This argument before the courts boils down to matters of law – as I understand this reading the sole argument is whether or not the EPA has the authority to enact this law, nothing more. What this law is based on is not in question. Therefore, EPA will win this case.
That would be totalitarian and sad. I hope you [are] not right.

PaulH
February 24, 2014 5:39 pm

There is no “social cost of carbon” – it is all nonsense, and yet look at all the wasted words.

ossqss
February 24, 2014 5:41 pm

I truly hope folks recognize the significance of this action. Your futures/life as you know it, could very well depend on it.
Just sayin, the UN has obvious influence. Those of you that think that Agenda 21 stuff is fiction, need to wake up. It’s not, and it’s right in your face, right here from the EPA.

Sean
February 24, 2014 5:42 pm

Why worry about this tax? In 10-15 years the US is going to look like Venezuela after the exodus of jobs and people seeking to escapes the spiraling tax costs of servicing all the new debt Obama piled up and the decline in individual liberty… America is a dead man walking, thanks to Obama. You just don’t know it yet, like a chicken with no head.

February 24, 2014 5:49 pm

SCOTUS should ask about CO2 fire extinguishers and CO2 propellant used in paintball guns, and should they be regulated and banned?

albertalad
February 24, 2014 5:52 pm

M. Hastings says: That would be totalitarian and sad. I hope your not right.
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Unfortunately this reading is about matters of law and not the details.

February 24, 2014 6:21 pm

What is then this “Carbon Pollution”?
A sinister, evil collusion?
CO2, it is clean,
Makes it grow, makes it green,
A transfer of wealth, a solution.
CO2 concentration has increased from about 280 ppm in pre-industrial times to nearly 400 ppm today, and is increasing at a rate of 2 ppm per year. We are way past the point of no return, 350 ppm which would lead to a temperature catastrophe. But instead, something rather interesting is occurring. The earth is getting greener! This 40 % increase in CO2 the last 250 years has led to a more than 30 % increase in agricultural production all by itself without adding fertilizer or using higher yielding seeds. Thanks to this we can now feed an additional two billion people on earth without starvation. The news are so good, that the per capita food production is increasing, even as the population is increasing.
Look at it this way. The value of basic agricultural products is more than 1.5 trillion dollars worldwide. 30% of that is due to increased CO2. That means that the CO2 emitted id worth 450 billion dollars, spread out over all farmers and ranchers worldwide. This wealth transfer is occurring right now, and knows no national boundary. It is a gift from the developed countries to the rest of the world. Who could be against that?
It turns out that this wealth transfer occurs without global governance. The leaders of the world will not get their say in who gets the wealth transfer, the U.N. bureaucrats will not get their cut, and politicians cannot get a campaign issue since it occurs without their involvement.
The complete explanation to this limerick is at:
http://lenbilen.com/2014/02/22/co2-the-life-giving-gas-not-carbon-pollution-a-limerick-and-explanation/

February 24, 2014 6:27 pm

Reblogged this on Power To The People and commented:
The EPA Social Cost Of Carbon criterea is not based on reality

February 24, 2014 6:27 pm

I am crossing my fingers… we still have hope right? Oh darn, that’s half of Obama’s slogan… [sans and change].

Robert of Ott awa
February 24, 2014 6:42 pm

I am afraid that the court will rule on the EPA having the judicial right to regulate CO2 not on the rectitude of those rulings. V

February 24, 2014 6:47 pm

If SCOTUS wants to speak to real experts in the CO2 industry, they should talk to these guys;
Airgas Liquid CO2
“Liquid CO2 is a simple, yet versatile gas used in a growing number of applications and in a wide range of industries. Airgas is the nation’s second largest distributor of Liquid CO2. Our Star Mississippi plant is the largest CO2 production facility in the world. Select Airgas Carbonics as your supplier and benefit from our distribution network, our food grade quality product and our product application knowledge”
“Carbon dioxide is inert, colorless, odorless and tasteless. In can be easily and safely liquefied, solidified, handled, and stored. In its liquid form, is readily interacts with water to form carbonic acid, or carbonated water, the beginning point for the worldwide beverage industry. Come see why most of the leaders in the industry and even our competitors purchase much of their Liquid CO2 from Airgas.”
http://airgasdryice.net/lco2.htm

pat
February 24, 2014 6:55 pm

24 Feb: Reuters: Update 1: Shell secures funding for Scottish carbon capture project
*Government is giving a total 100 mln stg for two CCS projects
Ed Davey, Britain’s Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change…”If built, the project could save one million tonnes of CO2 each year”…
The British government wants to develop CCS to help it meet both national and international targets to reduce environmentally-damaging greenhouse gas emissions.
By 2050, CCS could save more than 30 billion pounds ($50 billion) a year in fighting climate change, it said…
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/02/24/shell-ccs-idUKL6N0LT1K520140224
EU ministers adopt fast-track CO2 backloading: official
LONDON, Feb 24 (Reuters) – EU ministers on Monday adopted a fast-track plan to prop up European Union carbon prices, an EU official said, in time to allow the withdrawal of a maximum of 400 million permits from auction schedules this year…
https://www.pointcarbon.com/news/reutersnews/1.4264702
24 Feb: London South-East: EU member states give green light to CO2 emissions-trading deal
At present, the cost of permits allowing companies in the EU to produce a set volume of carbon dioxide is considered too low, reducing the incentive for them to invest in modern filter technologies or similar means of reducing their emissions…
Industry representatives had opposed the initiative, fearing it would drive up their costs…
http://www.lse.co.uk/AllNews.asp?code=unuyveo8&headline=EU_member_states_give_green_light_to_CO2_emissionstrading_deal

February 24, 2014 7:17 pm

Mr. Merton could have added that:
* There is no reason to believe in the existence in nature of “the equilibrium climate sensitivity” (TECS).
* When a numerical value is assigned to TECS, this assignment is not empirically falsifiable thus lying outside science.
* When a numerical value is assigned to TECS, this assignment conveys no information to the EPA about the outcomes from its policy decisions.
* In the assignment of a numerical value to TECS through Bayesian parameter estimation, the selection of the prior probability density function is arbitrary.
* The projections of the general circulation models are not falsifiable, thus lying outside science.
* The projections of the general circulation models supply EPA policy makers with no information about the outcomes from their policy decisions.
* The appearance that there is a logical or scientific basis for past or prospective EPA policy decisions has been created through applications of the equivocation fallacy by climatologists.

Chuck L
February 24, 2014 7:19 pm

The science is secondary in this case IMO. The question is whether the EPA has the power to change or reinterpret laws passed by Congress and/or ignore the will of Congress which has not passed carbon tax or cap and trade legislation. That being said, I hope the science or lack thereof, is considered by the justices as they rule on this case. The implications of the Court’s decision are far-reaching because if they rule in favor of the EPA and the Administration, other agencies of the Federal Government will be able to use the Court’s decision as the basis for their efforts to circumvent Congress, whether the FCC, NLRB, HHS, or any of the other myriad (unelected) Federal agencies. Constitution-loving Americans have much riding on this case.

February 24, 2014 7:28 pm

A great fog of scientific madness is engulfing the Western World which will lead to economic decline and social fragmentation. Ironically, Russia and China are immune to this suicidal group think and will rapidly improve their standing with rational scientific work. Who would have gussed this in 1992.

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