Climate rent a protest?

People send me stuff. Here’s a press release from a PR firm that I really don’t understand. Why are LGBTQ activists joining in a climate protest against Google? The only reason I can think of is that based on their past performance, “Forecast the Facts” couldn’t find enough warm bodies to hold a protest. I had to laugh at the tagline.

Media Advisory For: February 18, 2014

Contact:

Anna Zuccaro, anna@fitzgibbonmedia.com, (914) 523-9145

Molly Haigh, molly@fitzgibbonmedia.com, (907) 705-1999

TUESDAY: Google Faces Protests Over ALEC Ties

Progressives to Google: Don’t Be Evil, Stop Funding Right Wing Extremists

Mountain View, CA — Today, dozens of climate and LGBTQ activists will protest outside of Google HQ to demand the tech giant cut ties with the extreme right wing American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). ALEC is one of the most notorious  and influential peddlers of climate denial in the country.

What: Rally against Google funding climate denial and right wing-extremism in the form of ALEC

Who: Dozens of climate and LGBTQ rights activists. The event and campaign are being organized by Forecast the Facts, Courage Campaign, and SierraRise.

Where: Google Headquarters, 1600 Amphitheater Parkway. Mountain View, CA 94043

When: 2:30pm Tuesday, Feb. 18, 2014

Visuals: Dozens of people with a 3’x8′ banner reading “Google: Don’t Fund Evil” and signs with the same message.

Right now, state legislatures in Arizona, Oklahoma, and Colorado are considering bills developed by ALEC to force public schools to teach children climate denial.

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Forecast the Facts is a membership organization that seeks to ensure that Americans receive accurate information about climate change from the media, politicians, and corporations.

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I had to laugh at the tagline, because as we all know, former Climate Progress writer and now “Forecast the Facts” activist in charge Brad Johnson is all about “accuracy”:

ThinkProgress discussion of the tornado outbreak – click image for the full article

My rebuttal: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/04/29/the-folly-of-linking-tornado-outbreaks-to-climate-change/

 

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91 Responses to Climate rent a protest?

  1. kim says:

    Heh, strange bedfellows.
    =========

  2. kenin says:

    rent-a-mob or sometimes even called agent provocateurs.

    Kind of like the so-called “Black Block” at the G20 meeting in Toronto- that kind of crap.

  3. Jimmy Haigh says:

    Molly is not a close relative of mine.

  4. Sweet Old Bob says:

    Maybe we should all contact our state legislatures and ask them to follow these leading states !
    I’m game.Lets go for it!

  5. Max Hugoson says:

    During the Vietnam “protests” in the late ’60’s and 70’s there was a BUS CARVAN of 100 busses, which traveled from University to University. DUPPED STUDENTS WERE ROPED IN, and planned people told the MEDIA how to report the crowds. (1000 or 3000 became 10,000 and 30,000) I know about this because of a retired FBI officer. NEVER FOUND OUT DIRECTLY who organized this, but strong suspicious on the “Stockholm Peace Institute” which was a MOSCOW front…

  6. M Courtney says:

    This is a strange affair. Perhaps, when a cause has been achieved, the campaigning organisation must adapt or die. So the LGBTQ agenda may now be complete.

    Or maybe there is a link between homosexuality and the climate. The minor British political party UKIP thinks so.

    These guys and UKIP seem to have something in common.

  7. more soylent green! says:

    Why would LGBTQ activists want to protest the climate? Because the corporate-industrial system perpetuated by the top 1% is sexist, misogynist, racist and just not any fun?

  8. Gail Combs says:

    When I was job hunting in the early 1980’s the Boston Globe was running want ads for nuclear protesters to protest the Seabrook Nuclear plant in New Hampshire. At the time the minimum wage was ~ $3.35/hour while the ad promised $10.00/hour.

    Astroturf anyone?

  9. Jimmy Haigh says:

    I thought LBGTQ was a kind of sandwich. And then I realised that there could be a double entendre there…

  10. Betapug says:

    Wonder if they will deploy their Artists brigade:
    ” By recruiting musicians, artists and celebrities to elevate progressive causes, Artist Action adds a powerful new element to advocacy and outreach efforts that, when combined with FitzGibbon Media’s earned media and digital strategies, can tip the scales, cause a campaign to stand out, and reach a wider audience. Our team of passionate organizers and activists, have more than twenty-five years of extensive experience and relationships with key musical acts and entertainment leaders.”

  11. papiertigre says:

    It’s like any other pet goal of the democrats. To butress their amoral goal of teaching the human induced climate change in public school, making other people’s children the victim through coersive power of the state.

    They couldn’t get orphans to give testimonials, about how the weather drove mommy away, so instead they get the homo coalition.

    If you point out that tornados have shown no trend in frequency over the supposed interval that HICC has held sway, then you will be labeled a homophobe, or so the liberal activists would like it to turn out.

    Just shows that climate change, global warming, isn’t trending well in their focus group.

    Which is another way of saying, even among California liberals, people are not buying it.

  12. DirkH says:

    They seem to think that the recent [snip] media campaigns are a vehicle they can now attach the flagging Global Warming bandwagon to.
    I think they are wrong, but I like the sentence
    “Right now, state legislatures in Arizona, Oklahoma, and Colorado are considering bills developed by ALEC to force public schools to teach children climate denial.”
    for its Orwellian hilarity. Quick, act now, somebody’s threatening to teach the children logical thinking and the scientific method! Can’t have that.
    “Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.” – Vladimir Lenin
    The LGBT Warmists are showing their roots.

  13. papiertigre says:

    Forecast the Facts, Courage Campaign, and SierraRise —-

    You think any of these tax exempt political organizations were given the Lois Lerner scrutiny?

  14. Col Mosby says:

    Notice how non-existent are the calls for intellectual debate or presentation of facts. What we’re dealing with here are intellectually bankrupt folks who desperatey need a looming disaster so they can become environmental heroes. If one be not available, well, just make up a looming planetary disaster. Along with obligatory evil doers (always impersonal corporations or organizations). Anyone notice just how much alike are these folks and fundamental religious types? The are remarkably alike – except these guys substitute Mother Earth for God. I’m waiting for the witch trials to begin. Now these folks are what one calls anti-Reason, reactionary,
    superstitious loonies.

  15. DirkH says:

    M Courtney says:
    February 18, 2014 at 8:21 am
    “This is a strange affair. Perhaps, when a cause has been achieved, the campaigning organisation must adapt or die. So the LGBTQ agenda may now be complete.”

    It is not complete, M Courtney; the German Greens have just attempted to introduce a new curriculum in Baden Württemberg, which entailed that in EVERY course including maths and hard sciences, sufficient exposure is given to homosexuality and the other sexual deviations running in the “Rainbow COalition” (the rainbow going back to the “hanky code” of the 1970ies homosexuals; in which they had a colored hanky hanging out of their back pockets to signalize the kind of sex they were looking for).

    When it is complete, even persons of your political leaning will be amazed.

  16. alexwade says:

    Rent-a-mob. Keep people angry and you can keep them under control and you prevent any pesky questions like “what are you doing?” The goals of all these leftist organizations are the same goal, and they all involve me being poor and under control. The sad fact is these rent-a-mobs do not realize they are pawns. If the goals they are protesting for are achieved, they will have to give up their expensive iPhones that hardworking mommy and daddy bought them, will have to work hard themselves for little reward, and look over their shoulder all the time. But they don’t think about that because they are given fake righteous indignation, thus they are always angry and always under control.

  17. The left love to foster class division, but America has fewer class strata than most countries, and the strata that do have strong definition are permeable. Therefore, when an identifiable group emerges, they pick it up as a tool to be used against society. They don’t want to solve anything, they want to promote permanent class struggle.

  18. Psalmon says:

    Look! Chevron even sponsored that tornado!

  19. Old England says:

    To M Courtney
    Slightly misleading (sarc) to state that UKIP think there is a link between homosexuality and climate change. A longstanding conservative councillor (Henley Town Council) who very recently defected to UKIP stated he believed that the flooding was god’s vengeance on David Cameron (prime minister) for legalising gay marriage. Very clear, M Courtney, that you feel threatened by UKIP.

    Whatever you feel about UKIP , IMHO, it is completely off topic and a total irrelevance as a comment here.

  20. richard says:

    haha maybe because of this,

    “google search history for the terms “climate change” and “global warming”.
    Dropped by 80% over the past 7 years”

    http://www.google.com.au/trends/explore#q=Climate%20change%2C%20Global%20warming&cmpt=q

  21. Taphonomic says:

    At least they did manage to pick a location that is not bitterly cold or covered in snow for their protest. However, when their own press release predicts that it will be attended by “dozens”, you have to wonder if the press release is mightier than the protest. I’m sure this protest will resonate with the rest of the country that is still digging out from global warming.

  22. hunter says:

    Once again we see the pattern played out: self proclaimed progressives seek to silence those who dare to disagree with them.

  23. Steve from Rockwood says:

    My gentle suggestion to the LGBTQ crowd is to focus on their own causes for which we are sympathetic and not go protesting haywire.

    Watching the Olympics I’m getting tired of the anti-Putin LGBTQ crap. It’s too much. I don’t like Putin but last time I looked the Olympics was about sports.

    If you make everything political, everyone tunes out.

  24. John Boles says:

    And then after the protest they got in their SUVs and drove home and used electricity.

  25. fadingfool says:

    In response to M Courtney and Old England – mayhap the Councillor was correct (in a way). The head of the Environment Agency spent the flood defence money on Gay rights causes (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2560300/Why-did-floods-agency-spend-hundreds-equali-tea-gay-awareness-mugs-30-000-gay-pride-marches-As-Britain-counts-cost-shoddy-defences-reveal-bizarre-spending-quango-bosses.html)

  26. Reg Nelson says:

    [snip]

  27. bubbagyro says:

    [snip]

  28. Stephen Richards says:

    kim says:

    February 18, 2014 at 8:10 am
    Heh, strange bedfellows.
    =========
    KIM, Please, don’t. That image will stick with me for years now.

  29. Sean.fr says:

    So exactly how much is google giving and to whom? Thier search result have a reputation of being warning. I have tried “Climate change” today and not found “deniers” on the first three pages.

  30. john robertson says:

    Standard progressive tactic.
    Paid performers, tame media and no independent witnesses.
    The fake crowd theme has been a standard of the MSM “News” for years, careful camera shots and strategic editing to make 30 people look like hundreds, same clothes and faces a dozen times.
    Exaggerated crowd numbers and deliberate failure to cover real events.
    The mass produced signs, same faces at these performance art sessions.

    Some of the best canadian TV of late has been Sun TV talking head, Ezra Levant, actually interviewing protesters.
    What an eye-opener.
    Clueless, useless and stunned do not cover it.
    Yet our MSM give these zeros a platform, repeat their talking points, never even ask the obvious.
    We have persons who turn up, on camera, at protests across Canada days apart.
    None of our Presstitutes ask; How can you afford to be here?
    It is not cheap, flying city to city, staying in 5 star hotels, yet these professional protesters do it all year.

  31. CaligulaJones says:

    For the past few years in Toronto, the Gay Pride parade has had in issue with a group that wants to march in protest against Israel. No, I don’t get the connection either, and yes, it is pointed out to them that in all of the Middle East, there is precisely one Gay Pride parade, and it is held in Israel..

  32. Malc says:

    On this page

    http://forecastthefacts.org/press/releases/2013/12/6/dont-fund-evil-225000-americans-tell-google-quit-a/

    It says they delivered more than 225,000 petition signatures to Google’s representatives. But if you click on the link to the petition

    http://act.forecastthefacts.org/sign/google_stop_funding_alec/

    it says 35,290 have signed and their goal is 40,000. Some cool math going on there

  33. TomRude says:

    Not so strange bedfellows: genre and climate theories are the pillars of the UN agenda 21 totalitarian power grab.

  34. Mike from Carson Valley a particularly cold place that could benefit from some warming says:

    Is there a regressive political group one can join in protest to the existence of progressives ?

  35. Anthony Watts says:

    Note to the three commenters who have had their comments snipped and others who might be considering similar comments.

    I won’t tolerate such ugly comments, they will be immediately be snipped without explanation.

  36. Dave Wendt says:

    “American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). ALEC is one of the most notorious and influential peddlers of climate denial in the country.”

    Really??

    Anyone else even heard of these “EVIL” folks?

  37. OK S. says:

    kim says @ 8:10 am:

    Heh, strange bedfellows.
    =========

    :)

  38. DirkH says:

    Dave Wendt says:
    February 18, 2014 at 9:53 am
    “Anyone else even heard of these “EVIL” folks?”

    Breitbart mentioned them in the past, they are a constant target of the left.

  39. kim says:

    Yup, Tom Rude, @ 9:38, these sad sacks apparently fail to realize that Google is hugely into global warming alarmism. They’ve gone internecine, and are acting like excited cats stuck in a sack together.
    ====================

  40. D.J. Hawkins says:

    Malc says:
    February 18, 2014 at 9:36 am
    On this page

    http://forecastthefacts.org/press/releases/2013/12/6/dont-fund-evil-225000-americans-tell-google-quit-a/

    It says they delivered more than 225,000 petition signatures to Google’s representatives. But if you click on the link to the petition

    http://act.forecastthefacts.org/sign/google_stop_funding_alec/

    it says 35,290 have signed and their goal is 40,000. Some cool math going on there

    Probably the same math that takes the approximate 1C or so direct increase in global temps from a doubling of CO2 and turns it into catastrophic 3C, 5C, 7C, etc. The usual multiplier effect. I didn’t realize it was applicable outside climastrology.

  41. From the looks of it, ALEC is a standard Right Wing group. By Evil, the protesters mean that ALEC doesn’t support the Progressive agenda. From what I can see, Google’s “Support” of ALEC is limited to using ALEC to try to get laws that will better support Google’s buisness (like all companies do).

  42. Michael says:

    Speaking of rent-a-activist in the SF bay area…

    https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/npo/4333355486.html

    I found this a few weeks back after a colleague was complaining about greenpeace in and around San Jose being useful idiots.
    If you have a weak constitution don’t look at the link.

    Regards,
    Michael

  43. sadbutmadlad says:

    When the organisation which handles the publicity for a news item becomes the news item itself then they have failed and tend to disappear pretty soon after.

  44. Gail Combs says:

    john robertson says: @ February 18, 2014 at 9:30 am

    Standard progressive tactic.
    Paid performers, tame media and no independent witnesses.
    The fake crowd theme has been a standard of the MSM “News” for years, careful camera shots and strategic editing to make 30 people look like hundreds, same clothes and faces a dozen times….
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
    Tell me about it.

    I got a frantic call from my mother when I was in college right after the Kent State Riots. National Television (except in the state my Univ was in ) had “Film Coverage” of the “Massive Riots” at my school. Only one problem. I was on campus from 7:30 am till 5:30 pm criss crossing the location of the supposed riot and never saw a thing. The entire riot was made up out of whole cloth.

    What is really hysterical is it was an Ag/Eng university and very very very conservative. About the only ruckus I ever saw was when some ROTC jocks caught a hippy and gave him a haircut.

    I never believed the MSM after that and soon stopped watching TV for good shortly there after.

  45. Kent Clizbe says:

    This is not surprising, if you understand our opponents.

    This is not a “science” problem or issue.

    This is a cultural/political issue.

    Our opponents in the AGW fight are Politically Correct Progressives.

    “Political Correctness” is a belief system based on the fundamental tenet: “America is a racist, sexist, foreigner-hating, imperialist, capitalist hell-hole. And it must be changed.”

    That is what our opponents believe. In short, PC-Progs are “anti-Traditional-America.”

    They are only “for” something if it is against traditional American values, beliefs, or laws.

    For clarification, and references to research and analysis, here’s a short video:

    http://my.brainshark.com/Willing-Accomplices-Why-do-Progressives-Hate-America-121281394

    Once you understand this, we won’t waste time wondering why gays would support AGW protests.

    They are both interest groups in the PC-Progs’ war on Normal-America.

    Hope that helps.

    Kent

  46. CrossBorder says:

    Speaking of padding the numbers (I may have told this story here before), my dad had to run an errand on his lunch hour. He crossed in front of an anti-Vietnam war march, and crossed back behind it. He calculated that had they really had the 10,000 marchers reported, he would have been well over an hour late back to work, instead of being easily on time.

  47. phodges says:

    Rent a mobs…now you know how the “color”revolutions get started…in Libya it was literally 25 people in front of the camera with banners…in English!

  48. Gail Combs says:

    Greenpeace is funded by some surprising foundations.

    http://www.activistcash.com/organizations/131-greenpeace/#collapseThree

    Note that the New York Times Foundations is one of the donors as is the Joyce Foundation. Remember the Joyce foundation, Obama and Al Gore were all connected to the Chicago Carbon Exchange. Three of the Rockefeller foundations are donors too. aka as dirty Standard Oil Money.

    J. P. Morgan Charitable Trust is another eyebrow raiser.
    ALSO:
    The Packard Foundation (half of Hewlett-Packard)
    Educational Foundation of America (co-founder of textbook publisher Prentice-Hall)
    Energy Foundation “…a “project” of the Trust For Public Land. Its original $20 million endowment (in 1991) came from the Pew Charitable Trusts, the Rockefeller Foundation, and the John D. & Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation.”
    Liberty Hill Foundation “… founded in 1976 by Larry Janss, Anne Mendel, Win McCormack and Sarah Pillsbury. The foundation’s stated purpose involves social engineering and leveling “class inequality.”
    John Merck Fund (f Merck Pharmaceuticals )

    Quite a bit of amusing reading in that list considering Greenpeace is ‘Against” mega-corporations. snicker.

  49. Tommy Malthus would be covertly pleased. He necessarily (being an anglican minister) saw “vice” as a bad thing, but definitely saw it as a factor in limiting population.

  50. Tom J says:

    Hate to say it but I wouldn’t be quite so complacent about this – as many commenters seem to be. Think Progress is an offshoot of the Center for American Progress. The CFAP was founded by none other than John Podesta who was brought into the Whitehouse recently as Barack Obama’s chief advisor. Following the 2010 midterms, where the Democrats took a “shellacking” in the House, John Podesta authored a 47 page instruction manual as to how the POTUS could use the bureaucracy, tricky legal maneuvers, and the presidential pen to bypass Congress. And now he’s on board. And Obama does not face reelection.

    There’s one other issue to raise in which I may sound silly but I don’t intend to. When human beings set up exclusionary cliques or tribes they begin to develop an apparent visibly identifying similarity with its other members. We see this all the time and sometimes it’s downright humorous, but sometimes, when they’re seeking a devious control, it can be downright ominous. Check out Podesta and Obama’s hairstyles.

  51. Bryan A says:

    If I lived in that area, I would visit the demon-stration with signage in Support of Google

  52. Alan Robertson says:

    Jimmy Haigh says:
    February 18, 2014 at 8:13 am

    Molly is not a close relative of mine.
    _______________________
    Sure… you say that now.

    (ducks)

  53. Mike S. says:

    “Why are LGBTQ activists joining in a climate protest against Google?”

    Because they are loyal foot-soldiers in leftist extortion rackets.

  54. Steve Oregon says:

    I presume the local media will give coverage if only 5 people show up.
    That’s how it is in the Portland arena.

    Any few people can gather to chant left wing nonsense and get coverage but an entire room full of people making sense about climate isn’t news worthy.

  55. Gail Combs says:

    Steve Oregon says: @ February 18, 2014 at 12:37 pm….
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
    JP Morgan helps fund Greenpeace as I showed above. JP Morgan controls a lot of the MSM link (see first comment)

    JP Morgan hired Ex-prime Minster Tony Blair. (You can do the search)

    Reuters, 7/05/2013 – TABLE-JPMorgan’s U.S. power plants and energy trading deals

    Following the money tells you where the string-pullers are.

  56. CaligulaJones says:

    Any Canadians (or those interested in Canadian protestors…zzzzz..zzzz) should go to a new(ish) blog that very clearly (and bravely) shows the interconnection between the various protest groups here, including the most recent recruits to Malthusian economics:

    http://www.genuinewitty.com/

    When you drill down to the actual numbers of participants in some of these groups, you get the idea that Monty Python, as usual was there first when it was truly satire, not pathetic reality:

    “The only people we hate more than the Romans are the $^$#^ Judean People’s Front.
    P.F.J.: Yeah…
    JUDITH: Splitters.
    P.F.J.: Splitters…
    FRANCIS: And the Judean Popular People’s Front.
    P.F.J.: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Splitters. Splitters…
    LORETTA: And the People’s Front of Judea.
    P.F.J.: Yeah. Splitters. Splitters…
    REG: What?
    LORETTA: The People’s Front of Judea. Splitters.
    REG: We’re the People’s Front of Judea!
    LORETTA: Oh. I thought we were the Popular Front.
    REG: People’s Front! C-huh.
    FRANCIS: Whatever happened to the Popular Front, Reg?
    REG: He’s over there.”

  57. Malc says:

    Mike S. says:
    February 18, 2014 at 12:24 pm

    “Why are LGBTQ activists joining in a climate protest against Google?”

    Because they are loyal foot-soldiers in leftist extortion rackets.

    As a member of the LGBT community I slightly take exception to the idea that we can be relied upon to support a radical leftist agenda irrespective of its merits. I am at a loss as to why they need to graft the credentials of a noble cause (which LGBT rights is – being to do with human rights) onto one which isn’t (CAGW). Desperation I suppose. Most of my gay and transgender friends aren’t radical at all. Or if they are it’s out of necessity, not choice. They just want to lead normal lives. Doesn’t seem too much to ask. We have achieved a lot in the last 30-some years in terms of acceptance and equality. The anthropogenic global warming “cause” seems to be faltering. Maybe it lacks merit.

  58. Or if they are it’s out of necessity, not choice.

    Yeah, that sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

  59. Martin 457 says:

    I have found Google to be rather annoying. To have the LGBT click protest them, is (there isn’t a word for this) weird. This has to be some kind of plot by Google to get realists back on their side again…………

  60. Martin 457 says:

    LGBTG, not Q at the end. Unless something changed again and I missed it.

  61. Keith Sketchley says:

    “Why are LGBTQ activists joining in a climate protest against Google?”

    Because the activists share an underlying ideology with environmentalists – the negative view of humans that comes from Marxism and related belief systems like Post-Modernism.

    They blame freedom including capitalism for discrimination.

    In contrast, the homosexuals in my network of objective friends are individuals known for their content of character.

    More broadly, there are homosexuals among supporters of libertarian and serious conservative political efforts, because they recognize that what prevents a substantive economic effect of discrimiantion is individual freedom supported by defense and justice systems. (Yes, Libertarians do not believe in those, and many conservatives are against homosexuals for religious reasons, but individuals are trying to vote for the least bad.)

    (You’ll also see the garbage appearance promoted in art by Post-Modernists, in the “Gay Pride” parades (aside from those who are simply looking for an excuse to flaunt).

  62. jaffa says:

    Am I a ‘Climate Pollution Denier’ now? I can’t keep up with what it is I’m denying.

  63. henrythethird says:

    “…Forecast the Facts is a membership organization that seeks to ensure that Americans receive accurate information about climate change from the media, politicians, and corporations…”

    …just don’t ask the climate scientists for accurate information. They’ll sue you if you do…

  64. _Jim says:

    Col Mosby says February 18, 2014 at 8:38 am

    I’m waiting for the witch trials to begin.

    You nailed it; I was going to ask when the ‘witch trials’ were going to start …

    .

  65. Walter Dnes says:

    This isn’t the only time. The GLBTQ crowd seem willing to rent their lobbying services to anybody…

    1) GLAAD sent a letter to the FCC supporting AT&T’s acquisition bid for T-Mobile in 2011. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eddie-geller/att-t-mobile_b_877766.html And Huffington Post is pretty left wing, so it’s not like Fox News is reporting this.

    2) Or the National Gay & Lesbian Task Force weighing in on gambling in Maryland http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/08/what_does_being_lgbt_gambling.php Again, Village Voice is generally sympathetic to GLBTQ

  66. Dirk Pitt says:

    We are living in the age of activism. It’s an attempt to circumvent democracy and common sense, for whatever agendas some groups may want to push.

  67. Pamela Gray says:

    Who the hell are YUTRD%CNLPJUN&BFQQE$IOYTEEW EI EI O? I hate acronyms that are not spelled out in the beginning of articles.

    [Dunno, but it sounds like the end of a nursery rhyme any farmer should know by heart. 8<) Mod]

  68. Pamela Gray says:

    Are they anything like the St. Francis N.E.S.B.F. A. of C. group?

  69. Ossqss says:

    So,,,,,,,, what is at the heart, core, bottomline, of activism of this sort?

    Think about it,,,,,,,

    No really, try that!

  70. Steve says:

    The weather has been a bit queer this year…

  71. Gail Combs says:

    Ossqss says: @ February 18, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    So,,,,,,,, what is at the heart, core, bottomline, of activism of this sort?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Maurice Strong.

    No I am not kidding. Strong came up with the idea of NGOs because he first worked for YMCA international. NGOs corral activists and the dissatisfied and put them to work. The key of course is the NGOs are NOT DEMOCRATIC.….Strong’s realization that NGOs (non-government organizations) provide an excellent way to use NGOs to couple the money from philanthropists and business with the objectives of government.”

    Very few of even the larger international NGOs are operationally democratic, in the sense that members elect officers or direct policy on particular issues,” notes Peter Spiro. “Arguably it is more often money than membership that determines influence, and money more often represents the support of centralized elites, such as major foundations, than of the grass roots.” The CGG has benefited substantially from the largesse of the MacArthur, Carnegie, and Ford Foundations. http://www.afn.org/~govern/strong.html

    As I said Astroturf although the ardent young activist do not realize they are being used.

  72. p.g.sharrow says:

    The “Q” is for people that want to be in the LGBT but are unsure of what they are. Just very confused people among confused people trying to fit in. As the loons lose support they are banding together to make up for their declining numbers and loss of power. “Dozens” of protesters where thousands used to gather. They yearn for the good old days of massive protest numbers and excitement. When they were important people. Now they are just a few old want to be s. pg.

  73. deklein says:

    Fenton connection.

    http://www.fitzgibbonmedia.com/team/doug-gordon/

    Prior to joining FitzGibbon Media, Doug was a Senior Vice President at Fenton Communications where he led the firm’s political advocacy practice area and managed the Washington office. Doug also worked for years on Capitol Hill and in Democratic politics including working on House, Senate and Presidential campaigns.

  74. Harry Passfield says:

    Pamela Gray: With you on the acronyms. I’m still struggling with what the ‘Q’ means….’Que….’ (don’t want to be snipped)

  75. Lars P. says:

    M Courtney says:
    February 18, 2014 at 8:21 am

    This is a strange affair. Perhaps, when a cause has been achieved, the campaigning organisation must adapt or die. So the LGBTQ agenda may now be complete.

    Or maybe there is a link between homosexuality and the climate. The minor British political party UKIP thinks so.

    These guys and UKIP seem to have something in common.

    Is the bbc impartially showing you a general view shared by the UKIP party?
    Or do they want you to think that this is the shared UKIP view?

    I have nothing to do with neither, bbc, UKIP or Englad what so ever, but who is that councillor who “defected from the Tories to UKIP” and why is his view representative for the UKIP?

    What does a UKIP spokeperson say?
    “A UKIP spokeswoman said: “It is quite evident that this is not the party’s belief but the councillor’s own and he is more than entitled to express independent thought despite whether or not other people may deem it standard or correct.””

    So it is obvious BS, question is if you cannot see it? Or you don’t want?

  76. TheLastDemocrat says:

    Malc- you had better begin bringing this issue up amongst your associates. The Marxists do not like our current society; they believe that a variety of oppressive power relationships are the tool of societal control by the evil capitalists.

    They look for any possibly identifiable group in society with a claim of injustice, get involved in the group, and begin to hijack the group’s otherwise legitimate grievances.

    This has been going on with the same-sex community for decades. The Marxists have this in their writings going back nearly 100 years. Along with seeking to foment division in society between “gay” and “straight,” they long ago identified big business versus the environment the rest of us must rely on, Big Business versus workers, those evil Jews versus the manufactured ethnicity known as the Palestinians, Black versus white issues, feminism, etc.

    The Marxists paint a picture of a monolithic “bad guy.” Everyone else in society is supposedly oppressed. It reminds me of the various constituencies in the Lord of the Rings stories banding together against the evil forces. This is how the Marxists want us all to think.

    Each of these issues is a legitimate societal issue. Each person ought to have the right to live a life of full opportunity, etc., etc.

    The Marxists don’t care about that. They want to foment division in society so that the eventual Communist Revolution will come more quickly. Wherever they have gained control, they have turned on their coalition and cut down all but the true believers. In Russia, the Bolsheviks even did this to the Mensheviks. We often hear the term “Bolsheviks” thrown around, but knowledge of this early conflict in Russia’s revolution is not that well-known. You can google or Wikipedia this.

    Frankly, this really weakens the sympathy for any genuine LGBT concerns among the general populace. Most of us are fine with a same-sex person being able to carry on with a personal love life, and participate normally in society. An open, accepting society is fine. This is not good enough for the Marxists. Each of us “heteronormative” “breeders” is an “oppressor.” Hearing that we are all “oppressively heterosexist” and full of hate is not winning any points; the opportunity to have legitimate grievances heard, and have real solutions happen, wanes.

    Why are the Marxists trying to hijack LGBT political action? That is what they do.

    Marxists. Making useful idiots out of people with legitimate grievances for over 100 years.

  77. Mike M says:

    Like Rush Limbaugh always says, coming from the radical left, it is NEVER the veracity of evidence (if any at all) … it’s seriousness of the charge.

  78. Two things jump out at me – the use of “evil” and and the term “polluting the climate.” This has truly become a religious matter, stepping up “denial-ism” to “demon-ism.” As far as “polluting the climate,” that doesn’t make a lick of sense…unless “climate pollution” is the next “term de jour” to be properly used when referring to what used to be called weather…..

  79. PS – And what’s a protest without a few Raging Grannies…or is that Trannies? (No offence meant…but given the wide participation the rhyming is just too comedic under the circumstances) http://inagist.com/all/435827163795693569/

  80. MarkF says:

    Geez, Eric, they’re international? Funded by Tides maybe?

  81. mrmethane says:

    Geez, Eric, the grannies are international? Funded by Tides?

  82. Rick says:

    http://www.fitzgibbonmedia.com/clients/

    When I read the names of some of the groups I thought it must be satire but I guess not.
    Brave New Films
    The Internet Must Go
    Thoughtworks
    All Out, equality everywhere
    My favorite: Artists and Their Causes

  83. _Jim says:

    Gail Combs says February 18, 2014 at 10:12 pm

    Ossqss says: @ February 18, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    So,,,,,,,, what is at the heart, core, bottomline, of activism of this sort?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Maurice Strong.

    It looks to me as if the question being asked was ‘what (not “who”) is at the heart, core … of activism of this sort’.

    The answer might (odds-on favorite) should have been more along the lines of “… the yearning in man’s heart and soul to make a difference, as opposed to being just another nameless, faceless, innocuous, powerless bus rider in this life”.

    .

  84. _Jim says:

    Walter Dnes says:
    February 18, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    And Huffington Post is pretty left wing, so it’s not like Fox News is reporting this.

    Oh c’mon, say it like you mean it! “so it’s not like Fox News is MAKING THIS UP!” (as if it’s better that HuffPo makes it up?) The fist time ANY news org flat-out ‘makes it up’ and puts it on the air/on their site ought to be the last time that outlet is ever relied upon for any story!

    No, wait …

    .

  85. _Jim says:

    john robertson says February 18, 2014 at 9:30 am
    ..
    Some of the best canadian TV of late has been Sun TV talking head, Ezra Levant, actually interviewing protesters.
    What an eye-opener.

    Wow! Ezra is fearless *and* funny! He had ‘ol David Suzuki and his org recently literally ‘tied up in knots’ by just asking a few innocent questions … coverage and video here:

    http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/straighttalk/archives/2014/02/20140209-074950.html

    .

  86. Gunga Din says:

    Why are LGBTQ activists joining in a climate protest against Google?

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    They needed them to make an even “dozens”?

  87. Jan Smit says:

    @ Malc February 18, 2014 at 1:44 pm
    and Keith Sketchley February 18, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    I too belong to the LBGT community, apparently, and am often incensed at the tendency among more conservative types to tar us all with the same brush. The LBGT community is as broad a ‘church’ as any other random subset of humans singled out using a specific identifier (in this case ‘sexual orientation’).

    As a libertarian enjoying a natural affinity with the Rothbardian school, I have developed a very jaundiced view of the entire political spectrum – whether left, right or centre – and see the coopting of my peers to such a non-cause as CAGW as highly divisive. As divisive, in fact, as when I see powerful religious organisations coopting their members to promote the universal enforcement of a particular moral code by bullying policymakers…

    That said, there may well be a predominance among my peers that leans to the left. But there is good reason for that tendency. When you have lived from a young age with the strong sense that the conservative – and chiefly religious – environment you find yourself in hates you, it’s not entirely surprising that you develop a greater propensity to wend your way towards the more socially ‘enlightened’ and ‘accepting’ end of the political spectrum.

    The more the majority pushes against a given minority, the more the individuals that make up that minority enjoy mutual solidarity and the harder they push back as a cohesive entity (if you’ll forgive my phraseology in this context!). Every force has an equal and opposite force, and all that…

  88. babygrandparents says:

    Teaching climate denial??? What does that mean. Denying the climate? Denying that climate exists? I would love to see the course outline for that.

  89. Gunga Din says:

    OK S. says:
    February 18, 2014 at 9:56 am

    kim says @ 8:10 am:

    Heh, strange bedfellows.
    =========

    :)

    =======================================================
    I was just about to make an almost identical comment.
    (I was going to say, “8-)”)

  90. Brian H says:

    Photography vs. the reduction of frequency and intensity. Turkeys everywhere will Goebbel it up.

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