Boehner hits the nail on the head
President Obama’s soon-to-be-revealed second-term climate change proposal is “absolutely crazy,” Speaker John Boehner said Thursday.
The Ohio Republican was incredulous when asked to react to reports that the White House plans to regulate carbon emissions from power plants as part of its climate change strategy.
“I think this is absolutely crazy,” Boehner said at his weekly press conference. “Why would you want to increase the cost of energy and kill more American jobs at a time when American people are asking, ‘Where are the jobs.’ “
From:The Hill’s E2-Wire
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Would Obama be concerned about the climate if there wasn’t a way to profit (read taxes) from it?
It’s time to take off the gloves. Say it. Speak the truth. The country is in peril.
Take a look at what is happening here in Europe. Don’t take that route.
Obama is looking for his legacy.
That rarely turns out well.
Cloward and Piven
0bama will do whatever he can to harm the USA.
Global warming and C02 issues are simply a method to create a TAX ON LIFE ITSELF . . all life forms on earth are CARBON BASED . . so if C02 is a by product of living then you have the broadest possible tax base . . life, energy, farming, travel, transportation, manufacturing, yes all of human activities and even animal behavior. Read about the history of taxes here . . see the keep trying to get more money which gives government more power over people.
http://articlevprojecttorestoreliberty.com/history-of-taxation-in-the-united-states.html
This seems relevant to this political discussion.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2004/feb/22/usnews.theobserver
Now the Pentagon tells Bush: climate change will destroy us
· Secret report warns of rioting and nuclear war
· Britain will be ‘Siberian’ in less than 20 years
· Threat to the world is greater than terrorism
Climate change over the next 20 years could result in a global catastrophe costing millions of lives in wars and natural disasters..
A secret report, suppressed by US defence chiefs and obtained by The Observer, warns that major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a ‘Siberian’ climate by 2020. Nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread rioting will erupt across the world.
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The report was commissioned by influential Pentagon defence adviser Andrew Marshall, who has held considerable sway on US military thinking over the past three decades. He was the man behind a sweeping recent review aimed at transforming the American military under Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.
Climate change ‘should be elevated beyond a scientific debate to a US national security concern’, say the authors, Peter Schwartz, CIA consultant and former head of planning at Royal Dutch/Shell Group, and Doug Randall of the California-based Global Business Network.
An imminent scenario of catastrophic climate change is ‘plausible and would challenge United States national security in ways that should be considered immediately’, they conclude. As early as next year widespread flooding by a rise in sea levels will create major upheaval for millions.
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As with all things Boehner, he simply wants to shift the conversation away from what is really important. Green energy doesn’t kill jobs, just ask Texas. Green energy creates jobs, and lots of them. What green energy DOES do is help to prevent the loss of life that is detailed in this report.
One possible bonus from this – the ensuing debate may well get the “hiatus” and model predictions onto the front pages.
LOL at linking a “secret report” that is now nearly a decade old. I think the science has advanced a little bit since then and certainly attribution (or lack thereof)
jai mitchell – I notice your report is February 22, 2004. You aren’t serious are you? We’re more than halfway to the article’s “doomsday” and none of those catastrophic events are taking place.
jai mitchell says:
June 20, 2013 at 11:18 am
This seems relevant to this political discussion.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2004/feb/22/usnews.theobserver
Now the Pentagon tells Bush: climate change will destroy us
A nice reference from eight years ago that has already been disproved. There is NO climate change – everything is continuing much as it has with oscillations back and forth droughts and floods, heatwaves and blizzards all completely precedented. The one thing that does seem to be in agreement is that it is gong to get colder. As the trigger for climate change is carbon dioxide trapping outgoing heat to the extent that evaporation increases – that is it needs to be WARMER for your climate change theories to work – this is NOT happening. It is a FRAUD. There is no tropical tropospheric hot spot. The seas are NOT warming. The Anthropogenic Global Warming parrot is DEAD even though you persist in trying to nail it to its perch and change the subject to weather occurences.
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REPLY: Jai is a tree hugger living in a California state forest, not real good with the real world – Anthony
jai mitchell says:
June 20, 2013 at 11:18 am
Horse pukey!!
That should be puckey.
“major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a ‘Siberian’ climate by 2020”
When I read statements like this I wonder at the level of sanity in the world.
Jai Mitchell is obviously a troll. Nonetheless, since half of the time specified in the doomsday report has elapsed, what has happened in that time? Has global warming started us on the road to riots, starvation, revolution and death? Where are the ice-bound gulags of Northumbria? Or has global disappeared as a phenomenon, living on only as a religious belief?
All the report proves is that senior officials at the Pentagon are just as capable of telling the boss what he wants to hear as any other flunky, perhaps more so.
Apparently, ‘stopping AGW’ is akin to a civil right, according to Jonathan Overpeck, co-director of the Institute of the Environment at the University of Arizona: “Lincoln would have tried to stop it….”
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/20/prof-compares-climate-change-to-slavery-says-lincoln-would-have-tried-to-stop-it/
The over heated bloviating has reached new depths, yet it supplies the rhetoric that Our Dear Leader needs to justify his economy crippling regulations and taxation in the name of the fraud that is Anthropogenic Global Warming.
jai mitchell says:
“Green energy creates jobs, and lots of them.”
No, jai. Those are government jobs that were ‘created’ at the expense of the private sector. For every government green job ‘created’, more than one private sector jobs was lost.
I would suggest that jai educate himself here. But in a tree-hugger like jai mitchell it would cause this.
jai mitchell says:
June 20, 2013 at 11:18 am
“This seems relevant to this political discussion.
[…]
Climate change ‘should be elevated beyond a scientific debate to a US national security concern’, say the authors, Peter Schwartz, CIA consultant and former head of planning at Royal Dutch/Shell Group, and Doug Randall of the California-based Global Business Network. ”
Ah, Global Business Network, that incredible pool of talent with members such as Peter Gabriel or Laurie Anderson. Now don’t get me wrong, I really love Laurie Anderson playing the violin. But advising the Pentagon about the climate in the UK?
California is such a deeply, deeply crazy state.
Jai, the problem with reports like that is that they need to create a sense of jeopardy to motivate people to get something done. A century won’t do that. Maybe the U.K. will be more like Siberia by 2104. Maybe sea level rise will start threatening European cities in 87 years. But that’s a long way off and there’s no sense of jeopardy, so the authors shrink the time scales.
Sea levels are rising at the same pace they have been for 150 years. The temperatures haven’t changed that much in almost seventeen years. Do you really, honestly believe Britain will be like Siberia in only six and a half years? That coastal European cities will be drowning? And as for famine, I invite you to research the illustrious career and predictions of Paul Ehrlich … full-time prognosticator of doom. And always wrong. Just as Robert Malthus and scores of other doom-mongers have been before and since.
Eventually, you’ll reach a point where you start to see the common features of Chicken Littles every time they chirp up. You look back and recall the similar warnings and lamentations of every single one of them that preceded them. Malthus, Ehrlich, the authors of your report … are no different than Jim Jones or Marshall Applewhite.
And, ultimately, every bit as dangerous.
I fondly remember joking about the government taxing air……..now being reminded the best humor always has a basis in reality.
In support of Speaker John Boehner’s comment and question.
I think this is absolutely crazy,” Boehner said at his weekly press conference. “Why would you want to increase the cost of energy and kill more American jobs at a time when American people are asking, ‘Where are the jobs.’ “
What is the plan? Provide specific estimate of costs and benefits.
The massive investment in ‘green’ energy in Germany has resulted in a 50% increase in electrical costs to German citizens which is a type of indirect taxation. German CO2 emissions have gone down due to the massive loss of industry in East Germany. The German electrical grid is becoming unstable due a lack of connection power lines and due to the intermittent nature of wind and solar. The cost of electric power is expected to double to install additional single cycle natural gas power plants and new power lines.
EU CO2 emissions have increased if the carbon dioxide emissions due to goods manufactured in Asia and imported into the EU are included.
As Green energy (wind and solar) is intermittent power there must either be a massive investment in energy storage (no economic solution available to store energy) or there must be a change from combined cycle natural gas power (60% efficient) that cannot be cycled on/off/on/off to single cycle natural gas plants (38% efficient). The CO2 emission savings do not include the loss of efficiency for back up power.
In addition as the regions where the wind blows are different than power is required a massive investment in DC power lines is required to transport power.
As China is starting up two coal fired power plants per week and India one per week, the minor reduction in US and EU emissions will not significantly reduce the rise in world CO2 emissions.
In Berlin, Obame said “
global warmingclimate change is the global threat of our time.” No. The hockey stick has been shown to be false, fabricated by a leftist activist “scientist” (Michael Mann). In the hockey stick graph Mann manipulated the data to eliminate the Medieval Warm Period (warmer than today!), he eliminated the Little Ice Age (which we have been recovering from), and Mann grossly exaggerated the mild / barely noticeable warming of the 20th century. With the hockey stick debunked that means there’s nothing unusual about current temperatures, so the climate is not broken, the climate is fine!!In addition, there is actually no evidence (only a questionable theoretical model) that CO2 causes the climate temperature to change: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK_WyvfcJyg&info=GGWarmingSwindle_CO2Lag
But the real problem with AGW theory is the evidence of the rate of temperature change going back at least two centuries. See what I’m talking about in this C3 piece: http://www.c3headlines.com/2013/06/ipccs-gold-standard-hadcrut-confirms-co2s-impact-on-global-temps-statistically-immaterial-insignific.html, with an outstanding reusable graphic here: http://c3headlines.typepad.com/.a/6a010536b58035970c01901d26f85e970b-pi
We’ve had many ups and downs in temperature. But you see the slopes of temp change look identical in recent (high CO2) and past times (low CO2). CO2 has done… nothing. This doesn’t fit the supposed “established physics” on CO2. Back to the drawing board on CO2.
Ohio was useful during the re-election effort. Who cares at this point?
While we laugh idiots like Jai are in power. While we laugh our taxes go up.