Not sure that “sceptical fringe” would apply here, but I’ll take the press where we can get it. See my comments below. – Anthony
Twenty-year hiatus in rising temperatures has climate scientists puzzled | The Australian
DEBATE about the reality of a two-decade pause in global warming and what it means has made its way from the sceptical fringe to the mainstream.
In a lengthy article this week, The Economist magazine said if climate scientists were credit-rating agencies, then climate sensitivity – the way climate reacts to changes in carbon-dioxide levels – would be on negative watch but not yet downgraded.
Another paper published by leading climate scientist James Hansen, the head of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, says the lower than expected temperature rise between 2000 and the present could be explained by increased emissions from burning coal.
For Hansen the pause is a fact, but it’s good news that probably won’t last.
International Panel on Climate Change chairman Rajendra Pachauri recently told The Weekend Australian the hiatus would have to last 30 to 40 years “at least” to break the long-term warming trend.
But the fact that global surface temperatures have not followed the expected global warming pattern is now widely accepted.
Research by Ed Hawkins of University of Reading shows surface temperatures since 2005 are already at the low end of the range projections derived from 20 climate models and if they remain flat, they will fall outside the models’ range within a few years.
“The global temperature standstill shows that climate models are diverging from observations,” says David Whitehouse of the Global Warming Policy Foundation.
“If we have not passed it already, we are on the threshold of global observations becoming incompatible with the consensus theory of climate change,” he says.
Whitehouse argues that whatever has happened to make temperatures remain constant requires an explanation because the pause in temperature rise has occurred despite a sharp increase in global carbon emissions.
The Economist says the world has added roughly 100 billion tonnes of carbon to the atmosphere between 2000 and 2010, about one-quarter of all the carbon dioxide put there by humans since 1750. This mismatch between rising greenhouse gas emissions and not-rising temperatures is among the biggest puzzles in climate science just now, The Economist article says.
“But it does not mean global warming is a delusion.” The fact is temperatures between 2000 and 2010 are still almost 1C above their level in the first decade of the 20th century. “The mismatch might mean that for some unexplained reason there has been a temporary lag between more carbon dioxide and higher temperatures in 2000-2010.
“Or it might mean that the 1990s, when temperatures were rising fast, was the anomalous period.”
The magazine explores a range of possible explanations including higher emissions of sulphur dioxide, the little understood impact of clouds and the circulation of heat into the deep ocean.
Read it all here: http://m.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/twenty-year-hiatus-in-rising-temperatures-has-climate-scientists-puzzled/story-e6frg6z6-1226609140980
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The fact is temperatures between 2000 and 2010 are still almost 1C above their level in the first decade of the 20th century.
I think siting and adjustments, along with natural variation, account for a good part of that, as I demonstrate here:
New study shows half of the global warming in the USA is artificial
While the effect is only quantified in the USA for now, there is anecdotal evidence that it is a worldwide problem.
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Always interesting that point on the roller coaster ride when you’re at the top of the incline and then briefly almost level and then …
The ever-trumpeting equivocation between global warming (not happening now) and climate change (happening all the time), as a means of ‘cautioning’ those ready to ‘deny’ that it is ‘real’ (or state that it is a delusion). Hogwash. Hogwash. Did I mention hogwash?? Straw flying everywhere. Hansen’s statement is nonsensical (“it’s CO2, I tell ya!!!”) as is Mann’s ongoing revisitation of the Schtick, reconfirmed by more bad science.
What’s a guy to do?
“But it does not mean global warming is a delusion.”
Yes it does.
Hansen’s MO seems to be: if temperature rises, blame CO2; if temperature holds steady or declines, blame coal. No matter what happens it’s our fault and we must take drastic action now.
One wonders just when they will admit there’s even the tiniest possibility the problem is with their theory and models.
Not holding my breath.
In real science, when the model doesn’t predict reality, you know the model is WRONG.
But that doesn’t seem to work in climate science.
Must be like Keynesian economics, it’s just too politically useful to be wrong.
“The magazine explores a range of possible explanations including higher emissions of sulphur dioxide, the little understood impact of clouds and the circulation of heat into the deep ocean.”
But doesn’t mention the adjustments Anthony has covered or that big yellow nuclear furnace up in the sky… Still some way to go, but the message is getting through. Well done everybody.
It’s quite simple really.
There is no evidence of the Tropical Troposphere warming despite an eleven year watch by the Aqua Satellite and twenty years of weather balloons. Furthermore AGW “scientists” stand accused or ramping up positive feedback predictions and ignoring the negatives. On top of that the biggest blunder was to factor in CO2’s ability to create heat as linear when it is logarithmic.
Therefore theory fails the test.
The Climateers are getting nervous. Expect ever more curious and unconventional science. The Climateers (not just Warmists anymore) are at their best when explaining data that goes against the ‘consensus’.
“ the lower than expected temperature rise between 2000 and the present could be explained by” the fact that no one knew, or knows, what they’re talking about, and the “prediction” of GHG-driven temperatures was so much b*ll*cks.
Willie Soon let me know that Al Gore is coming to speak on climate at Stanford, by the way. Sponsored by the Woods Institute. In an event to honor Stephen Schneider. Stanford includes a hotbed of sustainability consciousness and Al will probably leave with the skin of his major midlevel muscle group chapped from all the kisses.
I know that natural variation will likely bring us into higher temperatures in the next few years, but MAN i hope they don’t just to see all the articles desperately trying to explain it away!
It all depends on how you torture the data
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/mar/27/climate-change-model-global-warming
“The paper, published on Wednesday in the journal Nature Geoscience, explores the performance of a climate forecast based on data up to 1996 by comparing it with the actual temperatures observed since. The results show that scientists accurately predicted the warming experienced in the past decade, relative to the decade to 1996, to within a few hundredths of a degree”
“The climate forecast published in 1999 is showed by the dashed black line. Actual temperatures are shown by the red line (as a 10-year mean) and yellow diamonds (for individual years). The graph shows that temperatures rose somewhat faster than predicted in the early 2000s before returning to the forecasted trend in the last few years. Photograph: Nature Geoscience “
Turning the tables on their labeling, it’s about time the overwhelming majority caught up with the minority of rational thinkers in observing the growing climate model errors compared to actuals. The next step will be for the laggard overwhelming majority to look at the taxpayer-funded climate monitoring systems for themselves and see the very real potential or outright global surface temperature declines in place of flat lines or return to upward momentum. The head-in-the sand approach of the laggard, overwhelming majority continues.
‘I think siting and adjustments, along with natural variation, account for a good part of that, as I demonstrate here:”
Except that CRN stations match the existing record (USHCNV2) over the period in question.
That is, if you look at USHCNv2 and compute the area average using the most precise methods we have, and if you compare that to the area average using the most precise method and best data ( CRN ), the two curves are statistically indistinguishable.
REPLY: Sorry, but that’s not what is being examined, and the premise still holds, but you’ll have to wait for the paper to see why – Anthony
Clearly, this planet needs to start burning MORE coal, 24/7!
It is weird that for such obvious results there is so little specific reaction.
Note the specific, not general places where the Arctic ice is lost, and the timing. For “more open water” to be a source of more cold/more snow, the areas of more open water than long-term average are just the eastern “seas”, and during only a portion of the year. Another global result from averaging regional effects?
A lag between CO2 and warming? Imagine that…….
Puzzle? The puzzle is how 16 years has become 20 within 2 months.
But there’s no puzzle over why the fringe dwellers are able to deceive. They have cherry picked a period of a very strong El Niño warming event followed by a very strong La Nina cooling event.
Meanwhile the heat content of the oceans continues to grow, the seas are rising, the Arctic is melting, weather has gone haywire and WUWT shows why it remains at the fringe and happy to use a deception to “get their press”.
Isn’t the definition of a climate scientist being one who thinks that temperatures are rising? Thus, of course they’re puzzled.
Does anyone know what year the models in the Economist article made their prediction. It looks like it might be 2005 or 2000. Is there anyway to see the IPCC model from 1990? This model should have 23 years of forecasting history. If that model has done a good job, CAGW has a strong empirical base to stand on. I’m guessing that since I’ve been trying for years to get the data w/o success that the actual temp increase is well below forecast. That’s why no one is talking about it. Anyone know where I can get the data. Thanks.
It’s a good thing the science was settled years ago and none of this matters.
/snark
tallbloke says:
March 29, 2013 at 11:13 am
But doesn’t mention […] that big yellow nuclear furnace up in the sky…
And for a good reason, as the Sun has very little to do with this. Of course, every ’cause’ has its own holy grail, so dream on…
The BBC’s Paul Hudson thinks it might be the sun!
Looks like there might be a few irate emails winging Richard Black’s way again from the Team!
http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2013/03/29/has-paul-hudson-put-his-foot-in-it-again/
I will hazard a guess that the reason global temperatures haven’t risen while CO2 levels have, is very simply because CO2 never caused the warming in the first place. I am applying logic rather than a belief to reach this conclusion.
As for the unexplained temporary lag in temperature increase; what planet are these people on?
CO2 has either caused GW or it hasn’t. It is incapable of having a hissy fit, to confound “scientists” and make global temperatures remain static. Physics does not work like that.
Trillions of £/$ spent dealing with this “problem”, economies threatened with disaster due to energy costs, my flights and petrol costs are through the roof and the best these clowns can come up with is this??
It really beggars belief!!
“…if we had included….”, “A slower growth rate of the net climate forcing may have contributed to the standstill of global temperature in the past decade,” “…the new climate dice…” When they start listing as many possibilities they can think to explain this we have then showing their colors: they would rather be world saviors and prophets than objective scientists studying it all with an open mind.
James Hansen, the head of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, says the lower than expected temperature rise between 2000 and the present could be explained by increased emissions from burning coal.
If the temps had continued to rise it would have been due to burning coal. Amazing stuff that burning coal.