No, not that one, this one:
Full disclosure: I’m not a member of the Tea Party, and both of my parents died of tobacco related illnesses. I’ve got no use for it or the people that make money from growing and selling it. But, since Mann brings up the subject, and since its become SOP for the doomers to equate climate skeptics to tobacco issues through ugly smears, I’ll let Donna Laframboise explain. She writes today:
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On the campaign trail back in 1988, Gore couldn’t boast loudly enough about the central role tobacco has played in his life:
Throughout most of my life, I’ve raised tobacco…I want you to know that with my own hands, all of my life, I put it in the plant beds and transferred it. I’ve hoed it. I’ve chopped it. I’ve shredded it, spiked it, put it in the barn and stripped it and sold it. [bold added]
And let us not forget the World Wildlife Fund’s tobacco connections. The 2011 book, Saving the World’s Wildlife: WWF – the first 50 years was written with the cooperation of WWF officials. It says this organization extended a warm welcome to South African corporations during the apartheid era. According to page 120:
WWF-South Africa was in many ways a special branch of the [WWF]. Instead of appealing to the general public it derived its income from corporate members. Seventy-two companies joined within a year thanks to Anton Rupert’s active canvassing among the South African business community.
Rupert was one of the founders of the WWF and one of the richest men in the world. Where did his fortune come from? Tobacco. An obituary explains:
Calculating that there would always be a great demand for tobacco, regardless of what happened in the world, he developed a cigarette-making company named Voorbrand, soon to be renamed Rembrandt Ltd, whose overseas tobacco interests were eventually consolidated in Rothmans.
The WWF is the largest and wealthiest green lobby group on the planet. One of its founders was a tobacco baron.
Al Gore won the Nobel Peace Prize for his climate change activism. He has been intimately linked to tobacco for most of his life.
Will Professor Glantz be writing a paper about these facts? Will he be declaring, in a press release, that both Al Gore and the WWF have “longstanding ties to tobacco companies”?
Read her whole post here: http://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2013/02/11/about-those-tobacco-connections/
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NIce catch by Donna.
But just like the ‘Big Oil’ ties to CAGW do not expect the rank and file lemmings to believe you.
Wow. Talk about smear job…
“Will Professor Glantz be writing a paper about these facts? Will he be declaring, in a press release, that both Al Gore and the WWF have “longstanding ties to tobacco companies”?”
Hahahahahaha…breath…hahahahahaha.
Thanks for the afternoon laugh,Anthony,on a lousy Monday.
“Members of the European Parliament have paved the way for hundreds of millions of pounds of subsidies to go to Europe’s tobacco farmers — even though Brussels spends huge amounts on anti-smoking campaigns”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/9844395/MEPs-plan-tobacco-subsidies-as-Brussels-fights-smoking.html
And they wonder why us Brits have a problem with the European Union
To raise tobacco Al would have had to leave his Fairfax Hotel in DC. Apparently, he did spend some of his summers down on the farm in Tennessee, but it would come as a surprise if he ever got his hands in the soil.
DeSmog blog, get your climate science from a P.R. firm. What a joke.
Everything the alarmists label skeptics with, they do themselves. It’s right across the board. You’d think they would notice.
So, not only am I waiting for my checks from the Koch Brothers, but now I’m waiting for payouts from Phillip-Morris Tobacco, too?
If he had any integrity, there would be a new Lewpaper being express mailed to whatever ‘new publication’ wouldn’t give him a hard time.
“conspiracist ideation” and “counterfactual thinking” indeed.
It astounds me the Gore is the guru of the left. I know four things about Algore.
A) He is from tobacco money.
B) He now has $100 million in blood (oh I mean Oil) money.
C) His wife was the #1 enemy of free speech in the 1980s.
D) He cheated on said wife.
Four things you’d think the left would really.. you know.. frown upon.
He’s also now basically a Islamofascist 5th Columnist, but that wouldn’t bother em.
Sorry …. https://twitter.com/MichaelEMann (valid Feb 11th 2013 – 19:22 GMT)
Pathway says:
February 11, 2013 at 11:12 am
To raise tobacco Al would have had to leave his Fairfax Hotel in DC. Apparently, he did spend some of his summers down on the farm in Tennessee, but it would come as a surprise if he ever got his hands in the soil.
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He probably would not know how deep to plant it or even which end of the plant to stick in the ground. Most tobacco farmers use migrant labor and I certainly can not see Al actually getting in close contact with the peasants unless he wanted their vote.
“Study: Tea Party Organizations Have Ties To Tobacco Industry Dating Back To 1980s.”
That’s a neat trick, seeing as the Tea Party movement didn’t exist before 2009.
For those not familiar with Stanton Glantz, he’s the anti-tobacco crusader most famous for co-authoring research which claimed that the adoption of an indoor smoking ban in Helena Montana caused an immediate 60% reduction in heart attacks. (No, that’s not a typo.)
Here’s more detail on that lovely bit of junk science: http://www.velvetgloveironfist.com/index.php?page_id=45
DeSmog Blog – champions of politically correct moral relativism, find themselves without traction and go to the expense of proving it.
Big Tobacco is a flea on the backside of Big Climate, itself the mouse that runs up the leg of Big Government, the elephant of them all.
The DeSmog Blog Tweet is a perfect example of Brownian polemics, a random juxtaposition of emotively loaded words leading nowhere. Hard to believe that someone actually funds DeSmog Blog and believes they’re getting value for money.
Mann and the truth became enemies a long time ago. While this article is sad, it is not surprising. When you hate, any lie will do.
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/01/29/al-gores-weird-explanation-for-taking-100-million-from-climate-change-villains/
News Flash: It has just come to our attention that conservatives fund conservative causes and liberals fund liberal causes. This shocking discovery will be covered in depth by our crack team from the Blatantly Obvious Broadcast Network tonight at 11:00. After that special report stay tuned for the ongoing coverage of the “PETA being funded by animal lovers” scandal.
These guys are such slow learners. They use the Internet but somehow they just do not understand the power of it to find out information and the speed that information can be spread to others.
How did Mann manage to get a PhD ??
I’m a proud member of the TEA Party because a country cannot spend itself into prosperity–it’s a contradiction in reality with catastrophic consequences.
Oh, and the acronymn “TEA” stands for “Taxed Enough Already”. It has nothing to do with tobacco or any other green plant but harkens back to the actions taken by about 700 poorly disguised “Indians” who dumped tea from three British ships into the Boston Harbor. The colonists wouldn’t stand for nefarious taxation ploys imposed by the King of England and we’re against un-budgeted spending that greatly exceeds tax revenues with no end in sight.
If we gather anything from history, it’s the fact that once a country’s debt has reached somewhere between 90 to 100% of its GDP, the economy collapses. These same people who defame and lie about the TEA Party defy reality with their CAGW meme so it isn’t surprising they are also oblivious regarding the laws of economics. Our current debt to GDP ratio is about 75% and will hit the “red zone” before 2016.
Note: Russia is currently stockpiling all the gold it can get because they see economic reality whereas the US continues to borrow, spend, and create fictitious money. I just might have to brush up on my Russian.
In the spirit of full disclosure, I have never received a cent from any TEA Party organizer or organization, although I have contributed small sums to help the cause.
@RossP
MMann received his PhD before Al Gore invented internet. 😉
Whatever they do, they think everyone does.
How’d the TEA Party get caught up in this? How does a group advocating for smaller, less intrusive government that stays within the boundaries originally laid out in the constitution (AS AMENDED) have anything to do with the climate argument. Oh, I see it now…if the government quit spending like a fleet of drunken sailors on shore leave, their grant trough would go empty. OK makes perfect sense now…never mind /sarc (No offense meant to fleets of drunken sailors…they usually quit when the cash runs out)
@RossP says: February 11, 2013 at 11:50 am
These guys are such slow learners. They use the Internet but somehow they just do not understand the power of it to find out information and the speed that information can be spread to others.
How did Mann manage to get a PhD ??
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Got a grant? ;->
Sometimes I tend to gives these guys more credit for intelligence than they deserve, but something that politicians do these days is to take stock if their vulnerabilities and then accuse the opponent of these things before they can accuse you. So Nancy Pelosi will accuse her opponent of insider dealing and explain how she will drain the swamp if elected. If her opponent then points out that her husband has made his fortune by insider dealings, it will simply look like sour grapes and won’t stick.