UPDATE: 3/5 8:30PM PST There’s a hilarious backstory on the sockpuppetry that went on yesterday from the founder of The Arctic Institute – read my comment on it here
It is that time again where attention turns to Arctic Sea Ice because it is approaching maximum extent. There’s really only two periods each year that garner intense interest, and that is the times of maximum and minimum extent. We are fast approaching maximum.
First, let’s start off with a tiff that has developed between Cleveland’s NewsNet5 meteorologist Mark Johnson and an outfit I’ve never heard of called the “Arctic Institute” which called him out a couple of days ago over his report “Ice, ice, baby: Arctic sea ice on the rebound“. They opined on his report:
Only two problems, when I queried him, Johnson stated he was referencing NORSEX SSM/I from the WUWT Sea Ice page, not NSIDC. And, since the Arctic Institute apparently doesn’t know how NSIDC graphs work, they’ve pwned themselves in the process of making their put-down counter claims. Have a look:
The NSIDC 3/3/12 chart looks well within ±2STD and pretty close to the ±1STD boundary to me. Source: http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_stddev_timeseries.png
NORSEX SSM/I extent for 3/4/12 is in fact within ±1STD:
Source: http://arctic-roos.org/observations/satellite-data/sea-ice/observation_images/ssmi1_ice_ext.png
Mark Johnson was right. You’d think an outfit that bills themselves as…
The Arctic Institute seeks to establish itself as an authoritative, interdisciplinary, and independent source for information and in-depth analysis about the developments in the High North. The Institute was founded in 2011 and currently aims to bring together scholars and researchers to build a growing stock of knowledge and expertise on the Arctic region. In contrast to existing platforms for Arctic affairs, The Arctic Institute is not affiliated with or sponsored by any of the Arctic states.
…would know that NSDIC graphs are on a five day average (and thus don’t reflect recent updates right away), and that daily graphs such as the NORSEX SSMI showed that there had been a dramatic surge in the last couple of days. I guess we know now that “authoritative” is just really their own self serving world view, and not based in actual evidence.
By itself, this peak doesn’t mean all that much. We saw a similar jump near the max in 2009 and 2010, and in 2010 the extent hugged the normal center line for several weeks. In the end though, most people are interested in the minimum in September, and since that event is so dependent on the short term vagaries of wind and weather, having a normal extent at maximum doesn’t guarantee a higher or even normal minimum in September.
One other thing I noted about the Arctic Institute is that they really didn’t show the current extent mapped out, so here it is:
I note that folks like the Arctic Institute just don’t like showing picture of reality, especially at maximum, since their entire existence is predicated on the Serreze “arctic death spiral” mentality and picture like this tend to make people wonder why there’s still ice in the Arctic when they have been told repeatedly it is disappearing at “unprecedented rates”.
So as to prevent the on cue wailing and gnashing of teeth from folks of that ilk, here is their favored presentation:
It sure would be nice if University of Illinois could learn to time stamp their images like I finally convinced NSIDC to do. That would be the scientific thing to do.
The offset right now is minus 726,000 square kilometers, an area slightly bigger than the state of Texas (695,621 sqkm). Most of that missing ice extent is in the Barentz and Greenland seas, as noted in this image from NSIDC I have annotated below:
Source: http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_bm_extent.png
And according the the Naval Research Lab, the extent loss in those areas appears to be entirely the result of wind patterns compacting the ice northward. There are strong northward drift vectors in the Barentz:
Source: http://www7320.nrlssc.navy.mil/hycomARC/navo/arcticicespddrfnowcast.gif
And the air temperature in the Arctic is well below freezing, so air temperature induced melt is likely not a factor…
…but wind driven warmer sea water incursions into the Barentz sea from more southern latitudes seems to be happening in that area and may be contributing to some edge melt:
In other news.
The Antarctic continues along happy as a clam, above normal, with a positive 30+ year trend.
I await the usual condemnations from the excitable folks that are terrified that the world will lose the ice caps soon.
UPDATE: Now the Arctic Institute has added a caveat:
*** [edit: Even the latest available ice extent chart from the NSIDC released on March 3, 2012, one day after Mr. Johnson’s article was published, shows ice extent well outside the one standard deviation area.]
I wonder what they will say tomorrow when NSIDC updates again?
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I hope that the ice caps do to recover too much as glaciation could be the next result.
trbixler says:
March 4, 2012 at 10:13 am
“I hope that the ice caps do to recover too much as glaciation could be the next result.”
Wouldn’t glaciation be the best remedy against peak water?
[snip – wildly off topic and full of biblical memes – don’t publish anything like this here again – Anthony]
“The Arctic Institute seeks to establish itself …”
It appears the key word is “seeks” and they have a great deal of looking to do.
. . . independent source for information and in-depth analysis about the developments in the High North.
When (ice) facts get in the way of being a champion for “developments” one, then, has to deny the facts. They are inconvenient!
Measuring sometime around June and Dec, makes the most sense…
Trying to get a measurement at the extremes, when the most unstable, is silly
Julienne Stroeve told me she would consider anything less than the size of Egypt – “ice free”
I’m sure the Egyptians would appreciate being told they are so inconsequential
Wouldn’t wind driven compaction be the main contributor to thick multi-year ice?
Since the wind is given so much credit for thinning the ice, it has to work both ways…………
“Now, one sobering forecast is that the Arctic Ocean will be seasonally ice free by the summer of 2013.”
David Suzuki
http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/natureofthings/2009/arcticmeltdown/
David;
If you though that you missed the CBC article about the Northwest Passage being open or Ice Free last summer, you didn’t, it wasn’t.
Sure would be nice to see a corresponding graph of the 1922 sea ice extent along with the terribly limited (in full sea ice context) 1979-2000 extents.
REPLY: One doesn’t exist AFAIK – Anthony
Pawns? Do you mean pwns? As in pwned?
I mean seriously, this is a classic case of old guys tryin’ to be hep cats or sumthun.
REPLY: I tried the “hep cat” spelling in the title, and I figured I’d be criticized for a spelling mistake. Damned if I do, damned if I don’t. I’ll change it to “pwns” and see what happens. – Anthony
[snip – Günther please do take your predictable snark and [self snip], if you have something factual to add to the discussion, please say it, otherwise it’s back to the Neven cave for you. Post Gleick, I have less tolerance for people using methods like yours, so I’m not going to allow you to threadjack anymore with snark. – Anthony]
trbixler says:
March 4, 2012 at 10:13 am
I hope that the ice caps do to recover too much as glaciation could be the next result.
oops
not
I hope that the ice caps do not recover too much as glaciation could be the next result.
General old age and feebleness.
Well, if they pawned themselves, who’s the broker? How much did they borrow, and what good will it do them so long as they remain in hock?
Straining too hard too be clever is a form of self abuse.
As we all get older we no longer give our age in months. And as we get much older we manage to remember what decade we are in because the years don’t matter. But we appear intolerant of descrepancies smaller than a gnat’s ass in climate science. This odd behavior is true of CO2 and solar forcing camps to the same degree. Ice alarmists seem to have the same mindset. Proper sceptical research looks for robust results and ignores the hair on the gnat’s ass.
The sun’s almost up around Novaja Zemlija …is there any satellite picture actually showing open sea on its western shores?
nutso fasst says: March 4, 2012 at 11:00 am
[Well, if they pawned themselves, who’s the broker?] – The government, by proxy, on your behalf.
[How much did they borrow] – Check your pockets.
[ and what good will it do them so long as they remain in hock?] – It does not matter, they can always borrow more next year, unless November goes poorly for socialism in which case they will move to Europe and soak you through the UN. This is assuming that you are not already a comrade of BEST (Bankrupt European Socialist Team); if you are then you have my condolences.
It’s too bad our satellite records don’t go back to the days when hurricanes were ravishing wind-powered Spanish galleons full of plundered Central American gold. Oh the irony.
Good article as far as it goes. Would have possibly helped to point out AO shifted in November so more ice was near enough certain. Only concern I have is seems to be a reduction of multi year ice according to multiple reports and as you properly caveated this is no guarantee of return to mean in September.
By the way I’m a convinced warmista but not a scientist.
Was the Denmark Strait ever completely frozen (between Greenland and Iceland)? Is there any historical evidence? Of course I mean during this interglacial.
Maurizio: LANCE-MODIS
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[snip – Günther please do take your predictable snark and [self snip], if you have something factual to add to the discussion, please say it, otherwise it’s back to the Neven cave for you. Post Gleick, I have less tolerance for people using methods like you, so I’m not going to allow you to threadjack anymore with snark. – Anthony]
That’s fine, Anthony. You just snip and ban. As long as you read it. We both know the truth.
REPLY: Except that your version of truth always comes with some personal derision while ignoring everything else in this post, and that’s the issue. I get it, I got it from your very first few comments ever made here; you don’t like me or this website, take it elsewhere then – Anthony
Andrew30: LOL. It is amazing what all sort of “buggy” bright treehugger types will do to scare folks. I am still waiting for at least one history professor in the world to tell me that there was no MWP or LIA. Seems to me they are awfully quiet in this slowly fading debate. Perhaps history professors have not figured out on how to jump on the gravy train?
“Hep cat”? That goes way back to when “hot” was “cool”… Daddy-o!
Off topic: I see the “widget” finally updated to January CO2 – Thanks to whoever does that!
Back on topic: Not being a statistician, I rely on naive observations. Every year, about “this much” (holds fingers apart) ice melts and re-freezes. Since the beginning of time (1979) about “this much” extra ice has melted. It would take about “this much” more ice to melt before the Arctic becomes ice-free. I don’t see it happening!
If the Arctic became ice-free, and I didn’t “read about it in the papers” (figuratively speaking), how would I know? According to the recent Liu/Curry et al. paper, it would get really cold in the winter. I’ll watch for that… (perhaps “hot” has become “cool” again!)
Thanks to Julienne Stroeve and Walt Meier for being willing to talk to us and answer our questions!
Best,
Frank
jeez says:
March 4, 2012 at 10:41 am
“Pawns? Do you mean pwns? As in pwned?”
Check definition #4 on the page you linked to.
I’d asked about the sea ice extent for 1922 as a curiosity, not believing one actually existed…..
Anthony responded that it did not, to his knowledge exist.
Looks like it might!
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seasonal.extent.1900-2010.png
The 1922 satellites were no doubt crude, but apparently functional.
Barrow Sea Ice Mass Balance Site 2012
The latest measurements available are of Day 61 – Mar 04, 2012, 10:00 AM AKST:
Air temperature:
-33 °C, -27 °F
Ice thickness:
1.38 m, 4 ft 6″
Last year it was Day 91 before the ice thickness was 1.38m.
http://seaice.alaska.edu/gi/observatories/barrow_sealevel
http://seaice.alaska.edu/gi/data/barrow_massbalance/BRW_MBS_2011.txt
Just reviewed their staff listing and it appears there is not a single legit scientist of any type in the group. They’re all government or management trained.