Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
The recent problems with the publication of the O’Donnell et al. response to the Steig et al. paper on Antarctica have focused attention on continuing problems with the current system of peer review, problems initially highlighted by the CRU emails. In addition to significant questions revealed in this particular case, I’d like to look at other general issues with peer review.
For me, the most inexplicable and interesting part of the Steig/O’Donnell affray has nothing to do with the scientific questions. It also has nothing to do with the actions of Steig or O’Donnell, actions which have much exercised discussion of scientific and personal ethics on the blogosphere. It also has nothing to do with Antarctica, or with statistics.
The inexplicable part to me was that Dr. Steig was named as a reviewer of the O’Donnell paper by the Journal Editor, Dr. Anthony Broccoli.
It was inexplicable because in the ancient tradition of adversarial science, the O’Donnell paper claimed that there were serious issues with the Steig methods. That being the case, the very last person to be given any say as to whether the paper should be published is Steig. If it were my Journal, I would have immediately called Dr. Broccoli, the Editor, on the carpet to explain such an egregious breach of both the journal policy and more importantly, common sense. Appointing Steig as a reviewer is contrary to the stated policies of the journal, which say:
A reviewer should be sensitive even to the appearance of a conflict of interest when the manuscript under review is closely related to the reviewer’s work in progress or published. If in doubt, the reviewer should indicate the potential conflict promptly to the editor.
Having Steig as a reviewer was done even though the authors of the O’Donnell paper wrote directly to the Editor (Broccoli) wrote to ask that Steig “be treated as a conflicted reviewer or that his review, at least, be sent to unconflicted reviewers for consideration before requiring us to make more major revisions.” The exact wording of the request was:
We have several concerns that we feel do not belong in the response and are more appropriately expressed in a letter. With this in mind, we would like to take a few moments of your time to discuss them. First, it is quite clear that Reviewer A is one (or more) of the authors of S09. This results in a conflict of interest for the reviewer when examining a paper that is critical of their own. This conflict of interest is apparent in the numerous misstatements of fact in the review. The most important of these were: …
This request was ignored by the Editor.
Steven Mosher had an interesting comment on this issue:
What makes this case different from any other “conflicted” reviewer case I’ve seen is this: Steig had made a public challenge to meet the author on the battlefield of peer reviewed literature. And in the case of Ryan [O’Donnell] this is an author who has no track record. That kind of challenge has no analogue that I’ve ever seen. Let’s see if I can make one
Imagine, for example, that you are a grad student with zero publications.
Imagine you make a pointed criticism or two of Judith Curry at a public forum, say an AGU Keynote. Imagine that Judy responds to you by saying, “go ahead try to get that published kid”
If you were that kid would you feel it was appropriate to have Judith review the paper? Would you have any reason to wonder if she was doing more than defending the science if as reviewer she gave you a hard time? Heck, even taking the reviewer assignment would be a sign to you that she intended to defend two things: her published paper and her public challenge/reputation.
Even beyond the special issues in this particular case highlighted by Steven Mosher, using a reviewer with such a glaring conflict of interest is also contrary to more general policies on conflicts of interest, such as the policy of the International Committee of Medical Journal Editors:
Editors should avoid selecting external peer reviewers with obvious potential conflicts of interest–for example, those who work in the same department or institution as any of the authors.
While this seems clear to me, and likely to you, Dr. Broccoli seems not to have gotten the memo.
Please be clear that I am not saying that Steig should not be offered every opportunity to respond to the issues raised by O’Donnell et al. He should indeed be offered that. The normal way that this is done would be for the Journal Editor to give space (usually in the issue where the new paper is published) for Steig to respond to the issues.
But giving Steig a say of any kind in whether the paper should be published? Where is the common sense in that? Does anyone seriously believe that in that position, some scientists would not try to prevent the publication of the new paper? Human nature roolz last time I looked …
I have seen Dr. Broccoli’s actions defended in the blogosphere, usually by saying that the Editor will use their expert judgement to determine if a reviewer is engaged in gatekeeping behavior. They also say that the most knowledgeable person about a paper is likely the author, so the Editor needs their specialized knowledge.
The problem that I have with that idea is, if the Editor is so knowledgeable about the statistical issues in question that he can distinguish Steig’s gatekeeping from true claims, then why does he need Steig as a reviewer?
And if the Editor is not knowledgeable in the statistical questions involved (Dr. Broccoli is a climate modeller, not a statistician … nor is Steig a statistician for that matter), then he won’t have the knowledge to see whether Steig is gatekeeping or not.
Also, if the Editor is that good and knowledgeable, then why do scientific journals (including Dr. Broccoli’s journal) have policies strongly discouraging reviewers with conflicts of interest?
And even if the Editor is that knowledgeable (which Dr. Broccoli seems not to be), remember that the goal is to avoid even the “appearance of a conflict of interest” … just how did Dr. Broccoli decide that having Steig as a goalkeeper does not present the “appearance of a conflict of interest”? My grandma could see that conflict of interest from her current residence … and she’s been dead for fifty years.
This farrago shows once again, just as was shown in the CRU emails revealed by Climategate, that peer review for AGW scientists is far too often “pal review” – just a gatekeeping fiction to keep any kind of opposing views from seeing the light of day, and to give puffball reviews to AGW supporting papers. Yes, as a number of people have said, at the end of the day the system kinda sorta worked, with a crippled paper (e.g. no Chladni patterns) emerging from the process. But I can say from my own experience that sometimes it ends up with a paper going in the trash can, purely because of gatekeeping from AGW pal review.
And in any case, is that all that scientists are asking for? A system that kinda sorta works some of the time? Because that’s certainly not what the public either wants or expects.
My suggestions to make peer review a better system are:
• Double blind reviews, where neither the reviewers nor the author are aware of each others’ identities. At present this is true in some journals but not others.
• All reviews get published with the paper, with each one signed by the responsible reviewer.
This has a number of advantages over the current system:
1. Reviewers comments become part of the record. This is very important, as for example a minority review which is outvoted to get the paper published may contain interesting objections and other ideas. Or a favorable review can immediately be seen to be based on false logic.
2. Gatekeeping and conflicts of interest of the kind favored by Dr. Broccoli will be immediately apparent.
3. While it is sometimes possible for authors or reviewers to guess each others’ identities, at least it will only be a guess.
4. As the experience of the internet shows, anonymity does not encourage honesty or collegialty … it is easy to say anything you want if you know that you will never have to take responsibility for your words.
5. People could start to get a sense about the editorial judgement of the editors of the journals. If an editor frequently uses conflicted reviewers, for example, people should be aware of that.
6. There will be a permanent record of the process, so even years later we can see how bad paper slipped through or what logical mistakes led to unnecessary changes in the paper. This can only lead to improvements in the science.
People have said that if we publish reviews and reviewers’ names, people will be less willing to be reviewers, so the quality of reviews will suffer. I don’t think that’s true, for two reasons.
First, if someone wants to be an anonymous reviewer but is unwilling to sign their name to their opinion … why on earth would we pay any more attention to their opinion than that of a random anonymous blogger?
Second, if reviewing a paper offers a chance for a scientist to get his name and his ideas enshrined on the record in a scientific journal … why do people assume that scientists would not jump at the chance? I know I would … and it is true whether I might agree or disagree with the paper.
That’s what I see as broken about the system, and how I would fix it … with sunshine, the universal disinfectant. Yes, it is important during the review for the reviewers and the authors to be anonymous and the proceedings secret. But once the procedure is complete, there is nothing to lose and everything to gain by keeping the peer review process open. Keeping it secret just encourages the current abusive system of pal review.
[Addendum] A couple of posters noted that I had not addressed rejected papers, my thanks for the feedback.
Each journal should publish papers that have been rejected, in electronic form only, and allow free public access to them.
In a way, this is more important than publishing the accepted papers. Science proceeds by falsification. But we have hidden away the most important falsification in the entire process, the falsification done by the reviewers.
These provisionally falsified claims are very important. If the reviewers’ rejections hold up, it will provide the ideas and logic needed to assess future repetitions of the same claim. If an eminent statistician has convincingly refuted my argument, THAT SHOULD BE IN THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Then the next time the argument comes up, someone could just say nope, someone tried that, here’s why it doesn’t work.
It would also encourage people to be reviewers, since their eminently scientific work of falsification would not be hidden away forever … and where’s the fun in that?
Now that I think about it, the current Journal practice of hiding scientific falsifications of proposed ideas is greatly hindering the progress of science. We’re throwing good scientific data and logic and argument in the trash can, folks. And by not showing the world that some idea has been judged and found wanting (and why), the same ideas keep coming up over and over again. As George Santayana didn’t say, “Those who cannot remember the falsification are condemned to repeat it”.
Regards to everyone,
w.
[Addendum 2] Gotta love the instant feedback of the web. Andrew Guenthner says in the comments below:
I would agree with Leif that requiring journals to publish rejected papers is a bad idea, for many reasons. For one thing, getting science published is not difficult. Sure, getting it published in a top-tier journal can be tough, but there are plenty of places where the level of competition is low. In reality, most rejected papers with good science do not end up in the “trash can”; they end up in more specialized publications where there is less competition. And in most places, it is easy (and getting easier) to self-publish. The real issues in most cases involve prestige and attention, not actual publication, and putting rejected papers online won’t make people pay attention to them, especially if (as would be likely) most scientific indexing services ignore them. Even now, a lot of technical papers get self-published online and appear in Google searches, and the purpose of many search tools is changing from simply finding out about work to filtering out the bad or irrelevant work. Making journals publish rejected papers just shifts part of the burdens and costs from the authors to the journals. Besides all this, journals generally require authors to give them the copyrights to work that they publish, and many journals will not publish material if it has appeared in some form already. As a scientific author, you are much better off retaining control of the distribution of your rejected paper, trying to improve its quality before it gets in front of a large audience, and looking for a more suitable venue than simply forcing someone to put it “out there” for you.
Good points all, Andrew, I can’t gainsay any of that. I stand corrected. I’d still like to find a system whereby when a high-powered statistician shows that my idea is 100% wrong, it is in the public record so we don’t have to do it again and again. I’m taking ideas on this one …

Spot on as usual Willis.
I agree that sunshine is badly needed in the whole review process – the more the better. It’s the dirty work at the crossroads that’s done in the dark and that’s more than half the problem in that the ‘team’ has been allowed to maneuver without any kind of accoountability.
Willis said- “People have said that if we publish reviews and reviewers’ names, people will be less willing to be reviewers, so the quality of reviews will suffer.”
This potential issue is easy to resolve. Simply make each review a referenced publication that partially counts towards tenure and promotion. After all, it is published. It may not be peer-reviewed, but many/most conference presentations are not peer-reviewed either.
Faculty will line up in droves to review papers, and the quality of reviews will dramatically improve.
All reviews get published with the paper, with each one signed by the responsible reviewer
I agree. There is small problem not addressed: what if the paper is rejected by a conflicted reviewer?
I need to add to my previous comment. Sunshine will only h ighlight problems that we see with published works, but what about good studies that are NOT published due to undue influence. For instance, if Stein had managed to get the article rejected would we even have known about it other than a plaintive or inflamed blog? How do we keep the gatekeepers honest?
Willis, the problem with peer review is that it is what it is….
It’s a method of getting other people to agree with you….
..Most of the time, it’s almost impossible
Brilliant post. I said the same thing at ClimateAudit. This is what stuck out the most for me. Serious conflict of interest. Basically judge, jury and one of the parties all rolled into one. I like your suggestion to publish the reviews. I think it’d be cool to make available the reviews online or something, but to publish only the reviewers final thoughts. This happens in the legal system where there is more than one judge. Both dissenting and supporting opinions are available.
Willis Eschenbach’s points are totally on target. They’ve been made before by others, but the current peer-review system has become a kind of locked-in-cement paradigm that will take time to fix. Fortunately, the web will speed up the inevitable, and it’s likely we’ll eventually arrive at a review system that will closely resemble what Willis and others have proposed. For the record, I’ve reviewed a fair number of papers and books, and I usually tell the editor to leave my name on the review.
listening to: Talking Heads- “Stop Making Sense”
Long ago in my publishing days, Nature and Science were not considered true peer review journals. How things have changed.
“This one we call Crossing the Desert.” *whackwhackwhackwhackwhack* “And this is the Unblinking Eye” *whackwhackwhackwhackwhackwhack*
“Hey did anyone notice that unblinking eye was just like crossing the desert?”
“And now for the paddling of the swollen ass. With paddles!” *whackwhackwhackwhackwhack*
Uh, the paper got published.
Very good Willis, except that haven’t you (inadvertently) got the last sentence backwards, when you say :-
“But once the procedure is complete, there is nothing to lose and everything to gain by keeping the peer review process hidden. Keeping it secret just encourages the current abusive system of pal review.” ?
Leif Svalgaard says:
February 17, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Thanks for pointing that out, Leif and others, I had forgotten to address that.
Each journal should publish papers that have been rejected, in electronic form only, and allow free public access to them.
In a way, this is more important than publishing the accepted papers. Science proceeds by falsification. But we have hidden away the most important falsification in the entire process, the falsification done by the reviewers.
These provisionally falsified claims are very important. If the reviewers’ rejections hold up, it will provide the ideas and logic needed to assess future repetitions of the same claim. If an eminent statistician has convincingly refuted my argument, THAT SHOULD BE IN THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Then the next time the argument comes up, someone could just say nope, someone tried that, here’s why it doesn’t work.
It would also encourage people to be reviewers, since their eminently scientific work of falsification would not be hidden away forever … where’s the fun in that.
Now that I think about it, the current Journal practice of hiding scientific falsifications of proposed ideas is greatly hindering the progress of science. We’re throwing good scientific data and logic and argument in the trash can, folks. And by not showing the world that some idea has been judged and found wanting (and why), the same ideas keep coming up over and over again. As George Santayana didn’t say, “Those who cannot remember the falsification are condemned to repeat it”.
I’ll add this to the head post.
w.
Steig was the best possible choice for a reviewer. He knows the material well, he would be motivated to do a thorough review, and his potential conflict of interest is well known, so his review could easily be discounted if necessary.
Most journals use only two reviewers. AMS used four.
If you want an easy review, stick to E&E.
” First, if someone wants to be an anonymous reviewer but is unwilling to sign their name to their opinion … why on earth would we pay any more attention to their opinion than that of a random anonymous blogger?”
Because the reviewer is not anonymous to the editor who is making the decision!
“The inexplicable part to me was that Dr. Steig was named as a reviewer of the O’Donnell paper by the Journal Editor, Dr. Anthony Broccoli.
It was inexplicable because in the ancient tradition of adversarial science, the O’Donnell paper claimed that there were serious issues with the Steig methods. That being the case, the very last person to be given any say as to whether the paper should be published is Steig. ”
No. The editor was absolutely correct in picking Steig as a referee. He then had the paper go through two complete rewrites, which Steig attacked and ignored his final recommendations, bringing in a forth unbiased referee.
The one person who comes out really well in the whole saga is Dr. Anthony Broccoli.
I only wish I had such a clear-sighted and ethical editor to handle my papers.
Hats off to Anthony Broccoli, a true professional.
Typo? Isn’t that the opposite of what you meant to say? Apart from that, I think you’ve got it right.
[Fixed, thanx. ~dbs]
As an engineer I am indoctrinated with the desire of failsafe systems. Life hazard is my mantra. Every single calc I ever carried out was third party checked, and at least one of the checks was “longhand”.
This “peer review” (academic theatrical performance) does not give me a feeling of well being. As a “peer view” suggesting that there might be something in this paper, then OK. But as an “absolute review” upon which to base the recommendation that the whole of mankind change the way they live? Scary, very, very scary and quite frankly, if you give it just a little thought it is absolutely daft!
Silly people! Well-meaning Gaian scientists really have no peers. They are nonpareils!
Willis Eschenbach says:
February 17, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Each journal should publish papers that have been rejected, in electronic form only, and allow free public access to them.
Some journals reject more than 90% of papers submitted, so that ‘borehole’ will be enormous and probably have a lot of genuine junk in it. Some journals reject ‘obvious’ junk directly by the editor [or his assistant] before the paper even goes to review. There are the issues of proper formatting and procedures and civility that must be met. So, I’m not so sure your idea is workable unless one steps on the slippery slope of defining categories of rejection.
If a reviewer spends a lot of effort to debunk a junky ‘paper’ [and there are some that ‘are not even wrong’ and can’t be meaningfully debunked] that often is not enough to deter the author or others to give up their silly ideas – we have seen many examples of that on this very blog. The authors might even take solace and even pride from the fact that a serious scientist spent time showing that the paper is junk: “there must be something to my idea since you so vehemently rejects it”. This very blog is replete with such examples too. Whole subculture might grow up around the boreholes.
If this entire incident does not open some eyes to WTF is REALLY going on, then frankly, nothing will. This is beyond “hand in the cookie jar”. This is “elected public official caught naked with a hooker in a closet with a pile of coke on the coffee table….”
It’s THAT obvious….
I suspect that the O’Donnell paper was published in spite of Steig, not because of him as some have alleged.
For a similar example of someone trying to publish a correction to a bigwig professor, see Prof Rick Trebino’s endless hassles here.
But once the procedure is complete, there is nothing to lose and everything to gain by keeping the peer review process hidden. Keeping it secret just encourages the current abusive system of pal review.
Assume you meant keeping the peer review process open rather than hidden.
“The price of Liberty is eternal vigilance.”
How are we to be vigilant if we don’t know the facts, don’t hear all the arguments, and allow things to occur “behind the scenes?”
Yes, even the logic behind not-publishing-a-paper should be part of the public record. And this is especially true if even a penny of public, taxpayer-provided money is involved.
Willis Eschenbach says:
February 17, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Now that I think about it, the current Journal practice of hiding scientific falsifications of proposed ideas is greatly hindering the progress of science
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Lat said: “It’s a method of getting other people to agree with you….”
You only see the papers that the peers agree with, or papers that agree with the peers.
Not only makes it real hard to get anything published that they don’t agree with, but also stops any contrary ideas and new ideas.
But it does make it easier to get funding and keep control over the ‘science’…………