Early Christmas gift from Lisa Jackson: power plant greenhouse gas limits

EPA Agrees to Limit Emissions From Power Plants, Refineries

From the NY Times:  the headline would make it sound like there was some sort of debate going on inside the EPA…

First paragraph:  “Threatened with lawsuits from environmental groups, the Obama administration has agreed to issue another round of greenhouse gas limits for both power plants and refineries — this time through a provision of the Clean Air Act that allows U.S. EPA to require pollution controls at both new and existing facilities.”

I’m sure the Obama administration was quaking in its boots under the unrelenting pressure of environmentalists who threatened to rain down lawsuits.  At least we know now that the polar bear will not longer be a political pawn in this “power grab”.

You can read the story and get worked up, but, on second thought, why ruin your Christmas.

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RSweeney
December 23, 2010 11:19 am

This is the best news for the Chinese economy since union work rules.

December 23, 2010 11:29 am

Two more years of high unemployment and low economic activity and Obama is stuffed.

December 23, 2010 11:31 am

Who needs laws when you can simply and arbitrarily regulate?

John from CA
December 23, 2010 11:35 am

“The rules for power plants (pdf) would need to be proposed by July 26, 2011, and finalized by May 26, 2012. Proposed standards for refineries (pdf) would need to be released by Dec. 10, 2011, with a final rule due on Nov. 10, 2012.”
The game is likely to change before they get to the finalized versions.

PJP
December 23, 2010 11:37 am

Beginning of the end of the EPA?

Sandy
December 23, 2010 11:39 am

So this is Cap without Trade, by-passing the legislature?

INGSOC
December 23, 2010 11:39 am

I would suggest all my American friends call their GOP representatives and senators and scream blue murder unless they wake up and stop this undemocratic “lame duck” attempt to cram the whole agenda in before they leave in January.

Lloyd
December 23, 2010 11:39 am

On a week where much of the US is experiencing fierce winter weather this is insanity. I cannot imagine what they are trying to accomplish. Electric rates are going to go through the roof.

bubbagyro
December 23, 2010 11:41 am

They should shut them all down: I have wood for my stoves and am well defended here in New Hampshire. The US population is due for a shake-out of the weak hands, so we can restart at 1786 levels.

INGSOC
December 23, 2010 11:42 am

Why are the Republicans NOT stopping this agenda? Because they may well be a part of it after all! It hasn’t taken long for old leopards to show their spots. Just wait until they pass cap and tax next.

DirkH
December 23, 2010 11:43 am

Say hello to skyrocketing energy costs, America.

Honest ABE
December 23, 2010 11:45 am

They’ve been pushing a lot of crap through the Christmas holidays so less people will notice.
Thieves in the night.

Curiousgeorge
December 23, 2010 12:00 pm

Here’s a Climate Change Litigation Chart from Lexisnexis that shows all the litigation underway over the past few years. It’s about evenly split between the enviro’s and the rational people. Click on the link given to the PDF. It’s very informative. http://www.lexisnexis.com/COMMUNITY/ENVIRONMENTAL-CLIMATECHANGELAW/blogs/environmentallawandclimatechangeblog/archive/2010/09/27/Climate-Change-Litigation-Chart.aspx
Also, here’s some additional info regarding the immediate rule; also from LexisNexis: http://www.lexisnexis.com/Community/environmental-climatechangelaw/blogs/globalclimatechangespecialpamphletseriespoweredbylexisnexis/archive/2009/12/18/EPA_2700_s-Mandatory-Greenhouse-Gas-Reporting-Rule.aspx .

December 23, 2010 12:01 pm

Hi,
This is getting way out of hand. I don’t think the powers that be will be happy until they have us all sitting in the dark, and for those that are experiencing really cold weather at the moment, freezing to death.

crosspatch
December 23, 2010 12:04 pm

How about some nuclear plants? NO GHG emissions, and they emit less radiation than a coal plant (if a nuclear plant emitted the radiation that a coal plant does due to natural uranium in the coal, it would be shut down).

kramer
December 23, 2010 12:05 pm

The EPA is doing its part to put brakes on our economy in order to help the developing economies of the world catch up.
Gotta love it when our government is infested with politicians who have foreign interests over ours…

Mark W
December 23, 2010 12:05 pm

Can’t wait for Ms. Jackson’s appearances at the GOP controlled congressional hearings…the EPA’s explanation of how CO2 became a pollutant should be entertaining- are they selling tickets?

December 23, 2010 12:06 pm

If the ~ 120 ppm of carbon dioxide placed in the atmosphere as the result of human activity is a “pollutant”, then surely the ~270 ppm of carbon dioxide placed in the atmosphere by Gaia is also a pollutant. If CO2 in the atmosphere is a “nuisance”, surely that must include all of the CO2. If not, how do we determine how much of the CO2 is a nuisance?
Shall we then expect the US Department of Justice file Holder vs. Gaia?
What is BACT for Gaia? How much change in Gaia would trigger NSPS?
Enquiring minds want to know.

kramer
December 23, 2010 12:09 pm

“The existence of an artificially cheap energy system leads to an economy which grows to rapidly relative to what it would be if we had efficient pricing and a full cost ”
~1:50 in the following video:

I found the video from this site:
http://www.pricingcarbon.org/speakers.html

R. de Haan
December 23, 2010 12:23 pm

I wish them good luck.
Fortunately the solution is at hand!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12051167

Elizabeth
December 23, 2010 12:24 pm

Another reason costs for consumers will rise. Maybe Environmentalists will finally understand our concerns when their children can no longer afford electricity. As we are 100% off the electric grid and don’t use natural gas, it is reassuring to know that our family will always have a place to come and stay warm, not freeze in the dark.

Fitzy
December 23, 2010 12:27 pm

We have similar,…lets be gracious, ‘Individuals’ in New Zealand. Whose solution to Human suffering, …is eliminating Humans so they don’t suffer.
I can imagine the powerhouse of the Worlds economy, continuing simply tickety-boo using recycled tofu, soyabean oil and hemp as an industrial fuel source, while China and India buy up our cheap New Zealand Coal to run their 100% particulate emission power plants.
I suggest Ms. Jackson be investigated from premeditated genocide of the US of A and its former economy, throw congress in there too.
Just a Christmas wish….
Might happen,…
…you never know….

Louis
December 23, 2010 12:30 pm

I predict that next year the EPA will ban CO2 from all soda pop and carbonated drinks. But if Pepsi and Coke are willing to bow down at Lisa Jackson’s feet and donate enough to the democratic party, she will grant them a waiver from the ban and allow them to stay in business. For saving the soft drink industry Jackson will then become known as the “Queen of Pop”.

December 23, 2010 12:30 pm

They will have to buy CARBON SHARES……

John from CA
December 23, 2010 12:31 pm

Anyone interested in leaving a comment for the GOP:
America Speaking Out:
http://www.americaspeakingout.com/
The concept is pretty good, a Reference Page to fix AB32 on WUWT is something I’d be willing to help with.

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