Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
One of the arguments frequently applied to the climate debate is that the “Precautionary Principle” requires that we take action to reduce CO2. However, this is a misunderstanding of the Precautionary Principle, which means something very different from the kind of caution that makes us carry an umbrella when rain threatens. Some people are taking the Precautionary Principle way too far …
Figure 1. Umbrella Exhibiting an Excess of Precaution
The nature of the Precautionary Principle is widely misunderstood. Let me start with the birth of the Precautionary Principle (I’ll call it PP for short), which comes from the United Nations Rio de Janeiro Declaration on the Environment (1992). Here’s their original formulation:
“In order to protect the environment, the precautionary approach shall be widely applied by States according to their capability. Where there are threats of serious or irreversible damage, lack of full scientific certainty shall not be used as a reason for postponing cost-effective measures to prevent environmental degradation.”
This is an excellent statement of the PP, as it distinguishes it from such things as carrying umbrellas, denying bank loans, approving the Kyoto Protocol, invading Afghanistan, or using seat belts.
The three key parts of the PP (emphasis mine) are:
1) A threat of serious or irreversible damage.
2) A lack of full scientific certainty (in other words, the existence of partial but not conclusive scientific evidence).
3) The availability of cost-effective measures that we know will prevent the problem.
Here are some examples of how these key parts of the PP work out in practice.
We have full scientific certainty that seat belts save lives, and that using an umbrella keeps us dry. Thus, using them is not an example of the PP, it is simply acting reasonably on principles about which we are scientifically certain.
There are no scientific principles or evidence that we can apply to the question of invading Afghanistan, so we cannot apply the PP there either.
Bank loans are neither serious nor irreversible, nor is there partial scientific understanding of them, so they don’t qualify for the PP.
The Kyoto Protocol is so far from being cost-effective as to be laughable. The PP can be thought of as a kind of insurance policy. No one would pay $200,000 for an insurance policy if the payoff in case of an accident were only $20, yet this is the kind of ratio of cost to payoff that the Kyoto Protocol involves. Even its proponents say that if the states involved met their targets, it would only reduce the temperature by a tenth of a degree in fifty years … not a good risk/reward ratio.
Finally, consider CO2. The claim is that in fifty years, we’ll be sorry if we don’t stop producing CO2 now. However, we don’t know whether CO2 will cause any damage at all in fifty years, much less whether it will cause serious or irreversible damage. We have very little evidence that CO2 will cause “dangerous” warming other than fanciful forecasts from untested, unverified, unvalidated climate models which have not been subjected to software quality assurance of any kind. We have no evidence that a warmer world is a worse world, it might be a better world. The proposed remedies are estimated to cost on the order of a trillion dollars a year … hardly cost effective under any analysis. Nor do we have any certainty whether the proposed remedies will prevent the projected problem. So cutting CO2 fails to qualify for the PP under all three of the criteria.
On the other side of the equation, a good example of when we should definitely use the PP involves local extinction. We have fairly good scientific understanding that removing a top predator from a local ecosystem badly screws things up. Kill the mountain lions, and the deer go wild, then the plants are overgrazed, then the ground erodes, insect populations are unbalanced, and so on down the line.
Now, if we are looking at a novel ecosystem that has not been scientifically studied, we do not have full scientific certainty that removing the top predator will actually cause serious or irreversible damage to the ecosystem. However, if there is a cost-effective method to avoid removing the top predator, the PP says that we should do so. It fulfils the three requirements of the PP — there is a threat of serious or irreversible damage, we have partial scientific certainty, and a cost-effective solution exists, so we should act.
Because I hold these views about the inapplicability of the precautionary principle to CO2, I am often accused of not wanting to do anything about a possible threat. People say I’m ignoring something which could cause problems in the future. This is not the case. I do not advocate inaction. I advocate the use of “no-regrets” actions in response to this kind of possible danger.
The rule of the no-regrets approach is very simple — do things that will provide real, immediate, low-cost, tangible benefits whether or not the threat is real. That way you won’t regret your actions.
Here are some examples of no-regrets responses to the predicted threats of CO2. In Peru, the slums up on the hillside above Lima are very dry, which is a problem that is supposed to get worse if the world warms. In response to the problem, people are installing “fog nets“. These nets capture water from the fog, providing fresh water to the villagers.
In India’s Ladakh region, they have the same problem, lack of water. So they have started building “artificial glaciers“.These are low-cost shallow ponds where they divert the water during the winter. The water freezes, and is slowly released as the “glacier” melts over the course of the following growing season.
These are the best type of response to a possible threat from CO2. They are inexpensive, they solve a real problem today rather than a half century from now, and they are aimed at the poor of the world.
These responses also reveal what I call the “dirty secret” of the “we’re all gonna die in fifty years from CO2” crowd. The dirty secret of their forecasts of massive impending doom is that all of the threatened catastrophes they warn us about are here already.
All the different types of climate-related destruction that people are so worried will happen in fifty years are happening today. Droughts? We got ’em. Floods? There’s plenty. Rising sea levels? Check. Insect borne diseases? Which ones would you like? Tornados and extreme storms? We get them all the time. People dying of starvation? How many do you want? All the Biblical Plagues of Egypt? Would you like flies with that?
Forget about what will happen in fifty years. Every possible climate catastrophe is happening now, and has been for centuries.
So if you are truly interested in those problems, do something about them today. Contribute to organizations developing salt resistant crops. Put money into teaching traditional drought resisting measures in Africa. Support the use of micro-hydroelectric plants for village energy. The possibilities are endless.
That way, whether or not the doomsayers are right about what will happen in fifty years, both then and now people will be better prepared and more able to confront the problems caused by the unpleasant vagaries of climate. Fighting to reduce CO2 is hugely expensive, has been totally unsuccessful to date, will be very damaging to the lives of the poorest people, and has no certainty of bringing the promised results. This is a very bad combination.
Me, I don’t think CO2 will cause those doomsday scenarios. But that’s just me, I’ve been wrong before. If you do care about CO2 and think it is teh eeeevil, you should be out promoting your favorite no-regrets option. Because whether or not CO2 is a danger as people claim, if you do that you can be sure that you are not just pouring money down a bottomless hole with very poor odds of success. That’s the real Precautionary Principle.
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Not even close to reading this. In fact I just wanted to say that the +4 Umbrella of Caution can only be wielded by those who are lawful neutral…
These responses also reveal what I call the “dirty secret” of the “we’re all gonna die in fifty years from CO2″ crowd. The dirty secret of their forecasts of massive impending doom is that all of the threatened catastrophes they warn us about are here already.
I eagerly await the response to this. I’ve found that the adaptability of the human race is actually quite astonishing. I live in the are of Ohio between Dayton and Cincinnati. One of the more prominent events here, which I though of immediately following the North Dakota floods of last year, is the flood of Dayton in the early 1900s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Dayton_Flood
Read about it and the response to it, and the capability of man to overcome nature becomes apparent. I especially like the “false” glacier ideas and fog nets outlined above. These three events show that the local population will adapt to the local conditions to survive.
in a nutshell: The precautionary principle is Pascal’s wager repackaged.
For some people, society pouring money down a bottomless hole is a desirable outcome. I’m talking about Al Gore, the Carbon Exchange, Goldman Sachs and others who are at the bottom of the hole scooping up that money.
Bjorn Lomborg is is a proponent of this way of thinking. Even if you do buy into the idea of AGW, it’s a common sense way of dealing with the issue, and perhaps actually accomplishing some good along the way. It’s a free market, freedom enabling mindset. Which is exactly why the powers that be will never go along with it.
Anthony, a Happy New Year to you and yours, and many thanks for your great work! Thanks also to the many learned commenters here, I learn much from scrolling through the back and forth in this section.
Many thanks, Willis. An excellent and creative article that extends our ability to look at the situation rationally. Hopefully some of those in the alarmist camp will eventually allow themselves to be exposed to these kinds of ideas.
Precautionary principle= don’t act without determining consequences.
Idiot principle= act without determining consequences.
Which principle are people following?
Another great post Willis! Happy New Year sir and may logic and reason prevail more this year than the last.
I know it’s OT for this post but I would be curious to hear your thoughts on CO2 IR wavelength absorption saturation as a limiting factor. It seems to pop up on occasion and the one serious article I’ve read on it used GISS as the reference for its calculated sensitivity.
Also, a crazy idea to start the New Year: Subsurface (but still near surface of the 1-6 foot variety) temperatures are essentially naturally smoothed averages for the surface temperature. I’d be curious if a measurement of this type could be used… for example, as a QC check for surface station instrument measurements.
Good article.
I will ensure my (Australian) PP-advocating politicians are sent a copy.
Well said. If humans followed the precautionary principle the way it is interpreted by AGwarmers we should never lle in our bed: over 90% of people die in a bed.
As for the ingenuity of humans to get water where needed, have a look at the ancient Qanats of Persia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qanat
Dave F (22:56:25) :
Not even close to reading this. In fact I just wanted to say that the +4 Umbrella of Caution can only be wielded by those who are lawful neutral…
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Dave, most people will not understand this line, but it is a travesty that I do … 🙂
Anywho… great piece Willis, and echoes my feelings about the misuse of the precautionary pinciple in AGW debates. Lomborg is spot on, and we have an opposition party leader in Australia that could get a lot of mileage selling this way of thinking.
Money would be more wisely spent on the PP to avoid possible large extinction should Apophis decide to pay earth a close visit in 26 years… at least that would be an appropriate measure to combat the known possible threat.
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John Trigge:
Beat me to it… do you wish to write the Abbott or shall I? 🙂 Maybe we should chip in and send him a copy of Lomborg’s book.
The Precautionary principle requires one essential ingredient: a solution that has at least a fair chance of working to solve the possible problem. The solution in this issue is to reduce CO2 emission by at least 50% now, not in 10, 20, 50 years time. They couldn’t even agree to a 1% reduction in 50 years at the Copenhagen summit. So, what’s the point of talking about the Precautionary principle if they are not prepared to believe their own nonsense and act accordingly? It’s all one big con.
Ok, let’s think about this for one tick. Let’s assume the man-made global warming alarmist crap is actually true. The only way to avert it is to reduce CO2 emmission now, not by introducing a new tax that only makes the rich get richer and the rest of us poorer, but to start building nuclear, solar and other forms of power generation systems. At the same time there must be a complete ban on building any more coal fired power stations. Now tell that to countries like India and China. They will tell you where to go quick smart. SO, either we are all doomed or the AGW is a hoax and we’ll be OK. Take your pick.
Happy New Year!
Yes: Bjorn Lomborg is simple, makes sense, doesn’t make Goldman Sachs
rich trading carbon credits…. Help people, today.
(I think I have just been banned, hopelessly, from Tamino’s Open Mind site for asking too many silly questions….
(In my mind, the PP is much worse with Big Banks: We need to break ’em up,
stomp on ’em, re-introduce Glass-Stegall….)
The mindset you introduce, however, is valuable in either case: truth, simple right.
Did I say: Happy New Year. It’s the only one we have.
Yes, it is a Dirty Little Secret.
I think the umbrella is an excellent example of the PP, especially in some parts of town. Notice how the knuckles are protected from abrasion in case you should accidentally brush them against something. And it may rain.
I’m afraid of sharks, so I never swim in the Mississippi river. PP and low cost.
And I don’t recall anyone other than the Soviets invading Afghanistan. We just sent some advisers in riding horses to help something called the Northern Alliance chase the thugs out. And bombed a little bit. 🙂
Bulldust and John Trigge
Yes, write to the Abbott. He needs all the help he can get. I have spent all Christmas on it.
Great starting position for 2010 Willis
There is a big difference between “pure” and “applied” science. Pure science often deals with controlled experimental exnvironment whereas applied science deals with all the uncertainties and vagaries of the real world. Applied science has been dealing with the precautionary principle since the dawn of history. Engineers and applied scientist use mundane term called ” factor of safety” and as a joke “factor of ignorance”. The factor of safety could be unrealistically high especially if the impacts on human health is unknown. Toxicology tests are made on animals and projected to humans and divided by the factor of safety. For example the allowable level of impurities in drinking water could be equivalent to a person drinking a truckload every day. However, the factor of safety has a specific numerical value that is adjusted as more information is available. If the particular chemical is later found to less toxic, the factor of safety is reduced. If its is found more toxic then a complete ban may be imposed. The PP just like any UN coined terminology is high sounding, highly political, very irrational and vague to a point of being meaningless. To put PP into practice, the proponent has to result to accepted political propaganda or demagoguery techniques such as those use in the CRU and the IPCC. That is bully out opposing views, silence criticism, create an atmosphere of panic, and transform the cause to political belief. Cost effectiveness together with the rational discourse are eliminated.
Thanks for another thought provoking article, Willis.
There are many example of how mankind has had massive negative effects on the environment by taking precautionary measures to cure one problem, only to find that the remedy has caused a worse problem in another direction.
This is due to a fundamental lack of understanding about how the total system operates and until we the wisdom to fully understand the complexity, no action must be taken.
I get very concerned when I hear about the true CAGW believers who are think that engineering the climate will become the only way to ‘save the Earth’.
Megalomania is a very dangerous psychosis.
Very sensible, and well argued article Willis.
The ‘no regrets’ definition reminds me of the early sixties, when as a young engineering surveyor volunteer, I found myself in central Africa, working on highway schemes, infrastructure, mapping, hydroelectric projects, you name it. Was it worth it? Well to me it was, the experience was rewarding, and maybe there are a few folk, who can now trade more easily, who have electricity and better communications and health, just maybe. But on balance, I suspect that most of the wealth created by me and others now lies in a Swiss Bank.
Quote: “These responses also reveal what I call the “dirty secret” of the “we’re all gonna die in fifty years from CO2″ crowd. The dirty secret of their forecasts of massive impending doom is that all of the threatened catastrophes they warn us about are here already.”
Not quite. The oceans haven’t yet risen by 20 ft, as predicted by the Reverend Al Gore. 🙂
The warming doom wasn’t true in the 30’s, and it certainly isn’t true now.
The cooling trend wasn’t irreversible in the 1890’s and 1950’s, and it probably won’t be this time either.
One of these trends, we will get one that goes a step beyond. Wouldn’t it be great if we had already been adapting, practicing precaution, instead of singing The Sky is Falling Kumbayas?
Here’s another perspective on the PP. I have no qualifications on this topic, so fill in your own likelihoods of each of the following statements being true.
1. The “globe” is warming p=?
2. The warming is caused by human activity p=?
3. Humans now or will soon have the capability of reversing the warming p=?
4. The cost of reversing it will be less than those of not doing so p=?
Note that the values of p for 1 and 2 are irrelevant, even though probably over 90% of the discussions focus on them. The only things that matter are the p values for 3 and 4. Not being a climatologist, my opinion is irrelevant, but I suspect that no one can produce a defensible estimate of p for 3 at this time. If we don’t know whether we can reverse the warming, the p for 4 is also irrelevant. If we do know that it is reversible, then it does comes into play. However that p value might still indicate that coping with the warming is a better approach (much to some people’s chagrin).
Note that the above is not really complete. We should also factor in the possibility that intervening might cause more damage than the coping alternative.
Where can I get a good price on a fog net? Does it come with a 10-year warranty?
“The rule of the no-regrets approach is very simple — do things that will provide real, immediate, low-cost, tangible benefits whether or not the threat is real. That way you won’t regret your actions.”
Indeed! I mean, we were going to have to maintain and raise living standards ANYWAY, and who knows…
Maybe some other catastrophic event will take place, in which case we’d be caught with our pants down in “retooling” civilization.
Maybe, despite any real problem that might materialize, our current sources of energy are the only cost-effective way that would save as many human lives as possible.
Maybe any real problem would turn out to not be C02, but rather something else!
But these points and many others that I’ve argued with various greens over the years are wasted time and wasted breath. They want themselves and others to be afraid, to “atone”, and they want that massive ego-trip of self-righteousness that comes from being “the good shepherd”.
Oh well. Human nature will over-run there plans. They may think that in promoting all this greenery that they are changing human nature, but when all is said and done…
…nothing has changed about human nature! They’re damming something that cannot be dammed up! They are not in controll of anything!
About a year before Climategate was “household” word, I predicted that something big was going to happen (in terms of AGW issue) in 2009, and probably late in the year as the growing economic hardships set in. That was my prediction for 2009 in the year 2008. My prediction for 2010 is that the whole plan will be all but forgotten. Human nature can do some amazing turn-arounds in such a short time.
Oh, and… Happy new year, all !!!
@NickB
“I know it’s OT for this post but I would be curious to hear your thoughts on CO2 IR wavelength absorption saturation as a limiting factor. It seems to pop up on occasion and the one serious article I’ve read on it used GISS as the reference for its calculated sensitivity”
Can you give a reference to this article ? This is something I have puzzled over as well but I can’t find any relevant information.