UPDATED: Better video quality in this copy on YouTube. Previous copy was low-res. Beck’s summary of the CRU email exchanges is very strong.
Transcript follows, thanks to Noel Sheppard of Newsbusters for it.
GLENN BECK, HOST: A potentially major scandal is unfolding after someone released thousands of e-mails and documents sent between prominent scientists of global warming debate. The New York Times has verified that these e-mails are legitimate which wasn’t too hard because some of them were written by and to one of their reporters. More on that here in just a second. But first let’s start with the science that has been so settled for all these years. What do these guys say behind closed doors about their so-called bullet-proof consensus? Well, Kevin Trenberth, he’s a climatologist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research. He wrote, “The fact is we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it’s a travesty that we can’t.” Incorrect data? Inadequate systems? Yeah. Travesty, pretty good word for it.
How about Phil Jones, head of of the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, “I have just completed Mike’s nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years to hide the decline.” Yes, he is talking about a trick that another scientist previously used in a peer reviewed journal to apparently hide the decline in temperatures. Incredible. But it doesn’t stop there.
How about when scientific journals published material that Jones didn’t like? Quote “I can’t see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report…Kevin and I will keep them out somehow — even if we have to redefine what the peer review literature is” end quote. Think about that next time you hear about, oh, “the consensus,” and “the science is settled,” and Al Gore is bragging about the peer reviewed journals
Now what happens to a peer reviewed paper when they disagree with what gets published? Quote “…our only choice is to ignore this paper. They have already achieved what they wanted.” But at least they are not intentionally deleting documents or hiding information, right? Oh, no, they’re doing that, too. Here is Phil Jones writing Michael Mann, the scientist that came up with that Hockey Stick graph, that one. He said, “Mike, can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re: AR4? Keith will do likewise. He’s not in at the moment – minor family crisis…Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same? I don’t have his new email address. We will get Caspar to do likewise.” Count them. There’s Jones, Mike, Keith, Gene, and Caspar, whoever they are, potentially deleting e-mails supposedly about supposed science.
So why all the secrecy? Well, we find out from another e-mail from Michael Mann about skeptic Steven McIntyre. “I’m sure you are aware that McIntyre and his ilk realize they no longer need to get their crap published in legitimate journals [you know, the one’s they’re cycling! ] but all they have to do is put it up on their blog and the contrarian noise machine kicks into gear. Pretty soon Drudge, Rush Limbaugh, and Glenn Beck and their ilk are parroting the claims.”
So you see, if McIntyre sees the data, he’ll find the tricks that are in it to hide the decline, and then crazy people like me might just let you know about it. Oh, the horror what will happen to cap and trade? That e-mail was sent from one of the scientists to a New York Times reporter. That same reporter, Andrew Revkin, thankfully did report on the story for the New York Times, but he will not post the documents because, quote “The documents appear to have been acquired illegally and contain all manner of private information and statements that were never intended for the public eye, so they won’t be posted here.” Oh, well, I know, the New York Times would never post or print anything that wasn’t intended for the public eye, like, maybe, the way we monitor terrorists or specific strategies to protect our troops in the field. No, no, the New York Times, they’re above that.
Deleting e-mails, hiding declines, incorrect data, inadequate systems, redefining scientific peer reviews for their own uses! This is what appears to be going on behind the scenes and literally trillions of dollars of policy decisions are being based on what these guys are telling us. If your gut said, “Wait a minute, this global warming thing sounds like a scam.” Well, I think you’re seeing it now. We told you this was going on, without proof, because we listened to our gut. You’d never believe me, but once again, here we are with yet another brand new reality.
Indeed.
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not a huge beck fan….but sounds great to me!
He should do a Round 2 of his indictment in a day or two, including in it such items as the peer pressure that forced resignations on the journal that published the Soon paper, and the threatening “message” that affair sent to editors of other journals that might be tempted not to toe the line.
Saw this when it aired. Pretty strong, but Glenn was obviously reading the script without a strong background knowledge.
Stossel would be a better candidate for an in depth look at this. He has some background from his “Give Me a Break” segments.
Speaking as a climate skeptic…the less we are associated with Glenn Beck, the better off we are. I note that Beck couldn’t even pronounce the e-mails he was reading and that he incorrectly interpreted at least two of them.
We don’t need Glenn Beck on Fox News telling us what’s wrong with the climate scientists…there are more capable reporters who will, sooner or later, be forced to confront this issue.
The Left is going to howl, of course, now that Beck has picked it up. Personally, I’m neutral on Beck – he’s too histrionic for me to watch, but I get a kick out of how much “outrage” he causes among the politically correct crowd. He seems to be a classic rabble rouser, and they always play a useful role in society. (I prefer the rabble to the elite, anyways)
But the MSM doesn’t seem to get it – when they see a huge story and hide from it (as the NYT did today) they are just BEGGING someone like Beck to pick up that ball and run with it! Especially since this fits perfectly into Beck’s narrative that the MSM is too cowardly and politically obsessed to bother to do their jobs anymore.
And so Beck gets to be the Upton Sinclair of the age by default and by the absolute incompetence of the Columbia School of Journalism grads who populate most newsdesks these days.
Frankly, anything he says is immediately dismissed by most rational people; with friends like him, …
I had been wondering whose document request prompted the string of emails asking members of the Team to delete emails. Apparently, it was David Holland’s request. See this post at Power Line:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/11/024996.php
Commentators like Glenn Beck and others need some help in pulling this together. The folks at Power Line are doing their part in sorting through the efforts to avoid disclosing public records.
East AnGILa? Beck is one worldly guy
Beck definitely presents only his side of the argument – but he’s the only one covering so much of what I care about that I find I have to watch him. I just make sure I do research on what he’s putting out.
There have been times that further research made me feel he deceived me but most of the time not. And since I feel both parties here in the US care more about making sure they get reelected rather then doing what is good for the country – and most of the media have picked their horse in the race and supports only them – I feel he is one of the few that is actually puts country before political party – I can’t not watch him.
I like it.
Thanks for the link.
TL
The whole ‘leak’ is fake!
It’s a ‘piss take’ from the warmist to coincide with Sweden!
Don’t touch it!!!!
Haha…Beck really cracks me up with his histrionics.
Climategate appeared first in the Hungarian MSM 2 days ago. Most of the reports were based on the articles published by the Guardian and BBC, so they heavily defended the ‘consensus view’. I think that only a very small minority know anything about the real importance of these events in my country.
Marc:
Drive-by postings are not highly respected around here. If you have specific data to support your statement, then we are more than happy to listen to it.
Listenting….
CUR has also cleared/removed the data for 2009 from there files.
see http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/hadcrut3vgl.txt
Histrionic and rough around the edges? Sure, but Beck has a HUGE following and he’s just assured us that this issue is not going away. Maybe some of you elite sophisticates should keep in mind that Beck is usually right and has a very good research staff. You’d dismiss the message because the messenger can’t pronounce “AN-GLEE-AH”? That’s the sort of argument that allows the Team to dismiss McIntyre and Watts because they aren’t peer-reviewed. Snobs.
I found this analysis of the LA Times coverage of this to be quite interesting:
http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?autocom=blog&blogid=7&showentry=4118
This blogger seems to have decomposed the LA Times piece pretty well. No wonder the Left wants control of the media and wails so about Fox News and conservative bloggers…this is a perfect example of how he who controls the press controls the message.
There’s enough spin in that LA Times piece to power all of California if they could just attach a generator to it.
Wow, I’m a bit taken back by the nose up attitude towards Glenn Beck.
I thought most of the people here were about finding the truth and he has been a great proponent on that front. His style might offend some, but his message is basically about asking questions that provide for public discourse on numerous subjects.
In particular, Glenn has been an advocate against political corruption. In case some of you missed it (like it or not), this battle has been largely won by the natural cycle deniers in the political arena and we could use some help on that side !
Beck is a sensationalist – but that being said, if anyone is waiting for the sensible, objective MSM to break this story in an unbiased way, that’s waiting for Godot. Controversial as Beck is, his audience is is in the 10’s of millions. This is news that the general public has to see. About time!
I believe this is an internal whistle blower, not a hacker. If this was a real breach, CRU would have locked down the site when it occured, not 3-4 days later, when the files became public on tAV. So I see no illegality in discussion the emails – all we have is CRUs statement that these were hacked, and I certainly do not expect they would say anything otherwise, and I definitely will not believe that unless they can produce evidence to that effect.
With the years of suppression of data and debate and foiling of FOIA attempts behind us, the ends here justify the means. I am happy Beck reported on this – this information would never get out of the blogs without it.
I am a scientist by training – and am revolted by the contents of zip file. Enough of playing nice and fair with crooks like this. They have destroyed the fundamentals of ethics in science.
I listened to his radio show and he said that this story was important enough to bump some of the other items on his schedule today. I am sure if he choose to maintain focus on this matter, he will bring in appropriate specialists to address the issue. The idea of John Stossel is a grand idea with his background in investigative reporting. I remember his special on Health Care that ABC kept bumping and cutting his show to 10 minutes on a Friday night.
I wouls rather not be associated with the like of Glen Beck, but it is a start. Like most Canadians, Steve McIntyre included apparently, my political views are closer to the other party’s. But what the heck, it took the left to get the truth out on Viet Nam, it will be the right to come through on this issue.
Thanks WUWT, sorry I couldn’t put up a better quality video on Youtube, but it’s the content that matters.
Here are some blog comments I read from a Climate Depot article;
(A US blogger retorted yesterday: “If the emails are out of context, CRU should release the rest to prove the point.
Another, Tom Nelson, “If this crushes the whole climate (fraud) industry, there are going to be a whole lot of kids out there with degrees that are worthless. Not to mention all the little businesses that were set up to cash in on the scam.”)
Too the second comment I say; Oh Boo Hoo let them sue.
Ooph, Beck…is it actually a good thing to be drawing attention to him when he’s one’s side of an issue? Or anyone who doesn’t actually know what they’re talking about?
I like Beck and he is the only main stream presenter calling out this fraud. He reaches millions of spectators. I’m sure that there are lots of place names in the States or England that peoplewould mispronounce if they had never come across them before. I’m on the side of anyone who fights for the truth.
Inhofe Says He Will Call for Investigation on “Climategate”
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