Fox News Glenn Beck on Climategate

UPDATED: Better video quality in this copy on YouTube. Previous copy was low-res. Beck’s summary of the CRU email exchanges is very strong.

Transcript follows, thanks to Noel Sheppard of Newsbusters for it.

GLENN BECK, HOST: A potentially major scandal is unfolding after someone released thousands of e-mails and documents sent between prominent scientists of global warming debate. The New York Times has verified that these e-mails are legitimate which wasn’t too hard because some of them were written by and to one of their reporters. More on that here in just a second. But first let’s start with the science that has been so settled for all these years. What do these guys say behind closed doors about their so-called bullet-proof consensus? Well, Kevin Trenberth, he’s a climatologist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research. He wrote, “The fact is we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it’s a travesty that we can’t.” Incorrect data? Inadequate systems? Yeah. Travesty, pretty good word for it.

How about Phil Jones, head of of the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, “I have just completed Mike’s nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years to hide the decline.” Yes, he is talking about a trick that another scientist previously used in a peer reviewed journal to apparently hide the decline in temperatures. Incredible. But it doesn’t stop there.

How about when scientific journals published material that Jones didn’t like? Quote “I can’t see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report…Kevin and I will keep them out somehow — even if we have to redefine what the peer review literature is” end quote. Think about that next time you hear about, oh, “the consensus,” and “the science is settled,” and Al Gore is bragging about the peer reviewed journals

Now what happens to a peer reviewed paper when they disagree with what gets published? Quote “…our only choice is to ignore this paper. They have already achieved what they wanted.” But at least they are not intentionally deleting documents or hiding information, right? Oh, no, they’re doing that, too. Here is Phil Jones writing Michael Mann, the scientist that came up with that Hockey Stick graph, that one. He said, “Mike, can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re: AR4? Keith will do likewise. He’s not in at the moment – minor family crisis…Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same? I don’t have his new email address. We will get Caspar to do likewise.” Count them. There’s Jones, Mike, Keith, Gene, and Caspar, whoever they are, potentially deleting e-mails supposedly about supposed science.

So why all the secrecy? Well, we find out from another e-mail from Michael Mann about skeptic Steven McIntyre. “I’m sure you are aware that McIntyre and his ilk realize they no longer need to get their crap published in legitimate journals [you know, the one’s they’re cycling! ] but all they have to do is put it up on their blog and the contrarian noise machine kicks into gear. Pretty soon Drudge, Rush Limbaugh, and Glenn Beck and their ilk are parroting the claims.”

So you see, if McIntyre sees the data, he’ll find the tricks that are in it to hide the decline, and then crazy people like me might just let you know about it. Oh, the horror what will happen to cap and trade? That e-mail was sent from one of the scientists to a New York Times reporter. That same reporter, Andrew Revkin, thankfully did report on the story for the New York Times, but he will not post the documents because, quote “The documents appear to have been acquired illegally and contain all manner of private information and statements that were never intended for the public eye, so they won’t be posted here.” Oh, well, I know, the New York Times would never post or print anything that wasn’t intended for the public eye, like, maybe, the way we monitor terrorists or specific strategies to protect our troops in the field. No, no, the New York Times, they’re above that.

Deleting e-mails, hiding declines, incorrect data, inadequate systems, redefining scientific peer reviews for their own uses! This is what appears to be going on behind the scenes and literally trillions of dollars of policy decisions are being based on what these guys are telling us. If your gut said, “Wait a minute, this global warming thing sounds like a scam.” Well, I think you’re seeing it now. We told you this was going on, without proof, because we listened to our gut. You’d never believe me, but once again, here we are with yet another brand new reality.

Indeed.

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mark in austin

not a huge beck fan….but sounds great to me!

Roger Knights

He should do a Round 2 of his indictment in a day or two, including in it such items as the peer pressure that forced resignations on the journal that published the Soon paper, and the threatening “message” that affair sent to editors of other journals that might be tempted not to toe the line.

Arn Riewe

Saw this when it aired. Pretty strong, but Glenn was obviously reading the script without a strong background knowledge.
Stossel would be a better candidate for an in depth look at this. He has some background from his “Give Me a Break” segments.

SABR Matt

Speaking as a climate skeptic…the less we are associated with Glenn Beck, the better off we are. I note that Beck couldn’t even pronounce the e-mails he was reading and that he incorrectly interpreted at least two of them.
We don’t need Glenn Beck on Fox News telling us what’s wrong with the climate scientists…there are more capable reporters who will, sooner or later, be forced to confront this issue.

wws

The Left is going to howl, of course, now that Beck has picked it up. Personally, I’m neutral on Beck – he’s too histrionic for me to watch, but I get a kick out of how much “outrage” he causes among the politically correct crowd. He seems to be a classic rabble rouser, and they always play a useful role in society. (I prefer the rabble to the elite, anyways)
But the MSM doesn’t seem to get it – when they see a huge story and hide from it (as the NYT did today) they are just BEGGING someone like Beck to pick up that ball and run with it! Especially since this fits perfectly into Beck’s narrative that the MSM is too cowardly and politically obsessed to bother to do their jobs anymore.
And so Beck gets to be the Upton Sinclair of the age by default and by the absolute incompetence of the Columbia School of Journalism grads who populate most newsdesks these days.

Marc

Frankly, anything he says is immediately dismissed by most rational people; with friends like him, …

I had been wondering whose document request prompted the string of emails asking members of the Team to delete emails. Apparently, it was David Holland’s request. See this post at Power Line:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/11/024996.php
Commentators like Glenn Beck and others need some help in pulling this together. The folks at Power Line are doing their part in sorting through the efforts to avoid disclosing public records.

Brazil Tony

East AnGILa? Beck is one worldly guy

Hosco

Beck definitely presents only his side of the argument – but he’s the only one covering so much of what I care about that I find I have to watch him. I just make sure I do research on what he’s putting out.
There have been times that further research made me feel he deceived me but most of the time not. And since I feel both parties here in the US care more about making sure they get reelected rather then doing what is good for the country – and most of the media have picked their horse in the race and supports only them – I feel he is one of the few that is actually puts country before political party – I can’t not watch him.

TurkeyLurkey

I like it.
Thanks for the link.
TL

Mufcdiver

The whole ‘leak’ is fake!
It’s a ‘piss take’ from the warmist to coincide with Sweden!
Don’t touch it!!!!

ClimateScallop

Haha…Beck really cracks me up with his histrionics.

Adam Soereg

Climategate appeared first in the Hungarian MSM 2 days ago. Most of the reports were based on the articles published by the Guardian and BBC, so they heavily defended the ‘consensus view’. I think that only a very small minority know anything about the real importance of these events in my country.

Steve Huntwork

Marc:
Drive-by postings are not highly respected around here. If you have specific data to support your statement, then we are more than happy to listen to it.
Listenting….

paul revere

CUR has also cleared/removed the data for 2009 from there files.
see http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/hadcrut3vgl.txt

Histrionic and rough around the edges? Sure, but Beck has a HUGE following and he’s just assured us that this issue is not going away. Maybe some of you elite sophisticates should keep in mind that Beck is usually right and has a very good research staff. You’d dismiss the message because the messenger can’t pronounce “AN-GLEE-AH”? That’s the sort of argument that allows the Team to dismiss McIntyre and Watts because they aren’t peer-reviewed. Snobs.

Severian

I found this analysis of the LA Times coverage of this to be quite interesting:
http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?autocom=blog&blogid=7&showentry=4118
This blogger seems to have decomposed the LA Times piece pretty well. No wonder the Left wants control of the media and wails so about Fox News and conservative bloggers…this is a perfect example of how he who controls the press controls the message.
There’s enough spin in that LA Times piece to power all of California if they could just attach a generator to it.

mkurbo

Wow, I’m a bit taken back by the nose up attitude towards Glenn Beck.
I thought most of the people here were about finding the truth and he has been a great proponent on that front. His style might offend some, but his message is basically about asking questions that provide for public discourse on numerous subjects.
In particular, Glenn has been an advocate against political corruption. In case some of you missed it (like it or not), this battle has been largely won by the natural cycle deniers in the political arena and we could use some help on that side !

player

Beck is a sensationalist – but that being said, if anyone is waiting for the sensible, objective MSM to break this story in an unbiased way, that’s waiting for Godot. Controversial as Beck is, his audience is is in the 10’s of millions. This is news that the general public has to see. About time!
I believe this is an internal whistle blower, not a hacker. If this was a real breach, CRU would have locked down the site when it occured, not 3-4 days later, when the files became public on tAV. So I see no illegality in discussion the emails – all we have is CRUs statement that these were hacked, and I certainly do not expect they would say anything otherwise, and I definitely will not believe that unless they can produce evidence to that effect.
With the years of suppression of data and debate and foiling of FOIA attempts behind us, the ends here justify the means. I am happy Beck reported on this – this information would never get out of the blogs without it.
I am a scientist by training – and am revolted by the contents of zip file. Enough of playing nice and fair with crooks like this. They have destroyed the fundamentals of ethics in science.

Alvin

I listened to his radio show and he said that this story was important enough to bump some of the other items on his schedule today. I am sure if he choose to maintain focus on this matter, he will bring in appropriate specialists to address the issue. The idea of John Stossel is a grand idea with his background in investigative reporting. I remember his special on Health Care that ABC kept bumping and cutting his show to 10 minutes on a Friday night.

doug

I wouls rather not be associated with the like of Glen Beck, but it is a start. Like most Canadians, Steve McIntyre included apparently, my political views are closer to the other party’s. But what the heck, it took the left to get the truth out on Viet Nam, it will be the right to come through on this issue.

Michael

Thanks WUWT, sorry I couldn’t put up a better quality video on Youtube, but it’s the content that matters.
Here are some blog comments I read from a Climate Depot article;
(A US blogger retorted yesterday: “If the emails are out of context, CRU should release the rest to prove the point.
Another, Tom Nelson, “If this crushes the whole climate (fraud) industry, there are going to be a whole lot of kids out there with degrees that are worthless. Not to mention all the little businesses that were set up to cash in on the scam.”)
Too the second comment I say; Oh Boo Hoo let them sue.

kmye

Ooph, Beck…is it actually a good thing to be drawing attention to him when he’s one’s side of an issue? Or anyone who doesn’t actually know what they’re talking about?

jmt

I like Beck and he is the only main stream presenter calling out this fraud. He reaches millions of spectators. I’m sure that there are lots of place names in the States or England that peoplewould mispronounce if they had never come across them before. I’m on the side of anyone who fights for the truth.

R Dunn

Inhofe Says He Will Call for Investigation on “Climategate”

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH6_hmEgfCs&hl=en_US&fs=1&]

Harry

You may not like Beck, but you will die of asphyxia before you see anyone else cover this story.

John M

What strikes me about the “MSM” here is that this is normally the type of thing that would have the investigative reporters salivating.
Although I’ve read a few relatively even-handed accounts, I haven’t seen any real digging yet, and many of those reporting on this are shocked, shocked I tell you, that someone would have the audacity to hack into a large and powerful organizations IT system and extract embarassing information.
I wonder what they teach these guys in journalism school these days.

CodeTech

Oh please… the usual “if Fox has it that’s bad”…
Well, Beck is specifically named… he has every right to be furious at these guys, and report on it.
Also, you can’t fault his observation that Revkin’s NYT position is utter crap. The NYT will expose anything they can if it furthers their agenda… this doesn’t, so they won’t.

chip

I have an old account sign-in over at Little Green Footballs, which is Charles Johnson’s site. I used it a couple of times in recent days to (mildly) refute some of the claims there.
Incredibly, he has blocked my account. This is Charles Johnson, the guy who helped bring down Dan Rather with his great work on the word docs.
What is it about this subject that causes people to become so close-minded?
And of course there is the irony of Johnson fulminating about the “ranting and fuming” by “right-wing” bloggers, while in essence putting fingers in his ears and shouting “I can’t hear you”.

M Yoxon

‘Anjeela’? That’s not particularly bright of him.
Other than that, it was fun – I’m no fan of Beck though.

Privet Ein

The only guy on TV that really has picked up the story and you guys are upset. You people should be cheering this guy because the other stations will not give you the time of day.
The fact is that FOX represents are very rare but extremely important position on US TV as just about all of the alternative major media outlets are left leaning.
Anyhow, still waiting on CNN to do its piece 🙂

Iren

That’s O.K. He just needs to get his old friend Lord Monckton on to explain it. Monckton has already called the perpetrators criminals. Its up in blaring headlines at Climate Depot.

Frank K.

Like him or not, at least 2.5 million or more people now know about CRU-gate:
From the Drudge Report:
CABLE NEWS RACE
NOV. 18, 2009
FOXNEWS HANNITY/PALIN 4,200,000…
FOXNEWS O’REILLY 3,868,000
FOXNEWS BECK 2,512,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 2,383,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 2,235,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 1,980,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,041,000
CNNHN GRACE 1,036,000
MSNBC MADDOW 957,000
CNN KING 835,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 625,000
CNN COOPER 611,000

Magnus A

This is also good, Russia Today, with an interview with former MP Peter Lilley:

He don’t think it’s a conspiracy (which I think is good) but he also don’t think that this will really stop the largerly invested fat AGW-bastard. :/

chip

Oh, and I see he deleted my previous posts discussing the CRU programmer’s comments found in the hacked code.
Can’t have such outrageous commentary disturb the echo chamber, I guess.
It’s truly bizarre behaviour from someone who used to trumpet the ability of the Internet to unearth information.

Michael

Thanks WUWT, I’m sorry I couldn’t upload a higher quality video, but it’s the content that matters. The writer of that piece did a pretty good job on it but alas, they had to throw in something mentioning terrorists. Makes me wonder who the real terrorists are though.

Roger Knights

If Beck wants to focus on scandalous material, there’s the story of that guy in a college near Albany who’s being sued for fiddling with some climate data.

Boom. Over two million people have now heard the story. Not a single talking heads debate about this will ever be the same. Finally. Finally. Finally. I really expected the followers of The Hockey Stick Team to be gnashing their teeth over this. I guess I haven’t been reading blogs long enough to have realized that they would in fact act like textbook cult members act when the apocalypse has been called off, which is quite literally indeed what now has the media finally calling into question. The cognitive dissidence between this scandal and the usual supply of alarmist articles that sprinkle every week’s headlines will be interesting to see played out. Suddenly nobody on their side can really have a fair debate about the actual science. Hopefully they will better understand what the skeptics have been going through, namely demonization, slur and slander.
Over at RC is a growing string of literally religious adoration for the noble climate scientists involved. As yourself if *this* is how alarmists behave when faced with the worst possible disgrace, how much of a chance did skeptics have to pry open their closed minds prior to the disgrace?

Bob_L

Y’all are right, Beck is not the guy for us, not erudite enough. Let’s call Fox and tell them we will never watch until he is gone. We will make Fox delete him! /snark off.
I don’t care if you like him or not. He has 2 million viewers and over 8 million radio listeners. That is more then have ever seen WUWT and CA combined. (No offense intended). It is also more viewers than watch any show on CNN, more than watch MSNBC all together.
The whole point now is spreading the word as far and wide as possible. Let’s not get worried about who picks up the story. “Strike while the iron is hot” And his viewers are watching his show.
I first discovered Glenn Beck on the radio. More On Trivia is very funny.
By the way, Inhofe is going to call for Congressional investigation.

royfomr

Forget the warmist wailings from this video. They will be small beer compared to the hottist howlings that this link will father!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cif-green/2009/nov/23/global-warming-leaked-email-climate-scientists
Early on, in the comments, George Monbiot apologies for having been too trusting of the integrity of certain climate scientists. His faithful congregation don’t seem too happy with his Damascus Moment- some even admit to being confused.
This is Huge and breathtaking- he’ll get slaughtered for his apostacy.
He needs our help. Get on to the blog before someone pulls the plug and click the support link to the right of his name.
When I left the site, 108 had agreed/ recommended his comment.
Let’s give him a boost folks.

P Walker

While Beck can be over the top at times, at other times he can be spot on . I’m not really defending the guy , but obviously some of you have never watched his show . If you can get past the histrionics , simply listen to what he has to say .

Doug in Seattle

As an environmental scientist I am not at all surprised by the behavior of Jones et al. I work with these kind of bozos and these are the elite of their ilk.
I too can’t stomach more than few minutes of Beck, but he is going to get a lot more traction on this issue than the blogs. If Beck is our only conduit to get this scandal covered by the MSM, then we just have to let it happen and hope it doesn’t get too mangled in the process.

New Brunswick Barry

Kudos to Beck for giving some additional prominence to the story, but Holy Cow, the man is ignorant! If the warmists are to be put out to pasture, it’s going to have to be done by people a lot more serious than this clown.

Glenn

Frank K. (17:46:20) :
Like him or not, at least 2.5 million or more people now know about CRU-gate:
From the Drudge Report:
CABLE NEWS RACE
NOV. 18, 2009
FOXNEWS HANNITY/PALIN 4,200,000…
FOXNEWS O’REILLY 3,868,000
FOXNEWS BECK 2,512,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 2,383,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 2,235,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 1,980,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,041,000
CNNHN GRACE 1,036,000
MSNBC MADDOW 957,000
CNN KING 835,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 625,000
CNN COOPER 611,000
************
Olbermann is first, like he keeps claiming! Hannity/Palin don’t count together, and MSNBC’s number is further to the right than anyone else. /Liberal off

Steve S.

Excuse me but there’s nothing wrong with Beck, Oreilly or FOX.
Their popularity is a strong signal that millions more repect their work that that of MSNBC etc.
That said, people should recognize that the people propogandizing and advocating the AGW movement while depsparaging Watts, McIntyre, Pielke, Singer Ball etc. are the same people dumping on FOX,and FOR THE SAME REASONS.
I think it’s fantastic that Beck and FOX cover the CRUhack and the AGW scandal.
The more the better for all the right reasons.

fred

chip (17:43:22) :
You’re not alone, check out grouchyconservativepundits.com

actuator

What some here refer to as “histrionics” I call a passion for applying logic and common sense in how we manage our human relations and how we expend our limited resources. That AGW/Climate Change is being used without scientific proof to disrupt and inappropriately human activity needs to be shouted from the rooftops. Beck may wave his arms, make faces and produce wild props to get his points across, but at least he is entertaining and successful based on audience ratings. BTW, entertaining messages are more likely to stick with audiences.

royfomr

He needs that boost for his CV. Who knows, if we put enough tips into the WUWT honey pot, he may soon be joining the over-worked, genuine 21st Century Hockey-Stick Team of Mr Watts’ moderators!

mkurbo

John M (17:39:38) :
Good point ! This is normally the kind of story that even the reporters who have sold out would eat their young to investigate and paste their name all over, yet you can hear a pin drop…
Where is CNN ???

Charles Johnson is just one guy who has decided in favor in AGW. I decided it was useless to discuss AGW on his blog, mainly because he ignored the facts in my postings and responded to others using “consensus” as his main argument, as if science was decided by a vote.
Being a scientist, I would rather be on a science blog, then on a blog worried about birthers, and creationists. Neither subject interests me, but it was amazing what you were labelled with if you were anti-AGW.