I can understand how frustrating it must have been for Stossel at ABC, given that he’s on the other side of the global warming issue from the news department there, but moving to Fox will minimize the broader impact of what he has been saying about the subject of global warming.
It is worth a flashback though, to his report in 2007 on the issue.
I hope he’ll keep an eye on the issue.
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It’s too bad he’s moving – any Fox personality is automatically ignored by the majority of the left.
The Globe and Mail, Canada’s national newspaper is censoring comments that point out their global warming bias under the guise that some of their stalwart pro AGW poster -who is collaborating with them on some wiki globe- is offended… Anything to silence oppostion.
Did anyone ever challenge Al Gore on his statement that he was getting reports that Polar bears – noted for their swimming ability – were drowning?
Stossel’s defection to FOX was inevitable. FOX is the lone purveyor of both sides of major issues. The other networks gave up on balance years ago and their ratings have plummeted as people flock to the internet and to FOX to satisfy their need for untainted information.
but moving to Fox will minimize the broader impact of what he has been saying about the subject of global warming.
On the contrary!, just look ratings.
Although the MSM and lefty pol’s minimizes Fox. It appears that viewers do not.
They have nearly 3x the viewers as the next station MSNBC for Prime Time.
And over 300,000 more viewers than the other stations combined.
Updated: Cable News Ratings for Tuesday, September 8, 2009
Posted on 10 September 2009 by Robert Seidman
10:55AM PDT: we got updated numbers for 9/8 and have replaced what was originally posted.
Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for September 8, 2009
P2+ Total Day
FNC – 1,451,000 viewers
CNN – 549,000 viewers
MSNBC –444,000 viewers
CNBC – 192,000 viewers
HLN – 301,000 viewers
P2+ Prime Time
FNC – 3,122,000viewers
CNN— 819,000 viewers
MSNBC –1,098,000 viewers
CNBC – 202,000 viewers
HLN – 675,000viewers
25-54 Total Day
FNC –410,000 viewers
CNN –155,000 viewers
MSNBC –163,000 viewers
CNBC – 59,000 viewers
HLN- 141,000 viewers
25-54 Prime Time
FNC – 851,000 viewers
CNN – 221,000 viewers
MSNBC –367,000 viewers
CNBC – 76,000 viewers
HLN – 297,000 viewers
35-64 Total Day
FNC – 697,000 viewers
CNN – 223,000 viewers
MSNBC – 232,000 viewers
CNBC – 93,000 viewers
HLN – 173,000 viewers
35-64 Prime Time
FNC –1,494,000 viewers
CNN – 337,000 viewers
MSNBC –591,000 viewers
CNBC –98,000 viewers
HLN –381,000 viewers
Source:
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/09/10/cable-news-ratings-for-tuesday-september-8-2009/26742
Certainly though Fox is a more appropriate home for someone like Stossel. He was a fish out of water at ABC given the raving climate lunatics they are!
OT, it is interesting to see the spin NSIDC is putting on the sea ice extent this year. As per an article in the Toronto Star on “the opening of the northeast passage”:
Sep 11, 2009 01:42 PM
Matt Moore, Seth Borenstein
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
FRANKFURT, Germany – Two German ships have traversed the fabled Northeast Passage, having arrived in Siberia from South Korea by travelling around Russia’s Arctic coast line. Global warming and melting ice made the journey possible.
Now the German-owned ships are poised to complete their journey through the cold waters where icebergs abound, heading for Rotterdam in the Netherlands with 3,500 tons of construction parts.
The merchant ships MV Beluga Fraternity and MV Beluga Foresight arrived this week in Yamburg, Siberia, their owner Beluga Shipping GmbH said Friday. They travelled from Ulsan, South Korea, in late July to Siberia by way of the Northeast Passage, a sea lane that, in years past, was avoided because of its heavy ice floes.
Scientists report that the Arctic Ocean ice cap has been shrinking to unprecedented levels in recent summers, because of global warming, opening up many passages that were ice-choked in earlier times.
In July, new NASA satellite measurements showed that sea ice in the Arctic was not just shrinking in area, but thinning dramatically.
Niels Stolberg, the president of Beluga, which is based in the German city of Bremen, called it the first time a Western shipping company successfully transited the Northeast Passage.
“To transit the Northeast Passage so well and professionally without incident on the premiere is the result of our extremely accurate preparation as well as the outstanding team work between our attentive captains, our reliable meteorologists and our engaged crew,” Stolberg said.
He said the shipping company was planning more voyages through the area in coming months. Traditionally, shippers travelling from Asia to Europe have to go through the Gulf of Aden and through the Suez Canal into the Mediterranean Sea and, pending their destination, into the Atlantic Ocean.
A journey from South Korean to the Netherlands, for example, is about 11,000 nautical miles (12,658 miles). By going northward and using the Northeast Passage, approximately 3,000 nautical miles (3,452 miles) and 10 days can be shaved off. That means lower fuel costs.
Researchers said the ability to navigate the route showed climate change.
“We are seeing an expression of climate change here,” said Mark Serreze, director of the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colo. “The Arctic is warming; we’re losing the sea ice cover. The more frequent opening of that Northeast Passage is part of the process we’re seeing.”
“The Arctic is becoming a blue ocean,” Serreze told The Associated Press.
For the last few years, including this year, navigator Roald Amundsen’s famous Northwest Passage has been navigable. Then in 2007, the more crucial deep water channel called McClure Strait opened up and now the Northeast Passage, Serreze said. The passage “is the traditional choke point,” Serreze said.
That northern route “is going to become more and more open on a seasonal basis,” Serreze said. But it won’t be consistently open because of local weather patterns that could still freeze it up for long time periods.
This year is shaping up to have the third lowest amount of Arctic sea ice on record, just behind the worst year set in 2007 and in 2008. But just because 2009 is slightly up from the past two years, it is not an upward trend or a recovery, Serreze said. It reflects a change in local weather patterns that occurred in August, he said.
“It’s certainly part of the overall decline of sea ice that we’ve been seeing,” Serreze said.
Sheesh! It’s the old up is down, cold is warm newspeak! What year is it again? 1984?
Antonio: “The Globe and Mail, Canada’s national newspaper is censoring comments that point out their global warming bias under the guise that some of their stalwart pro AGW poster -who is collaborating with them on some wiki globe- is offended… Anything to silence oppostion.”
Hey Antonio, I’m “Eyes” from the G&M comments! I noticed something amiss too although I’m not sure it’s as sinister as you make out (although I wouldn’t put it past the G&M). All the commentary is down, not just on climate related issues. The whole comment function on the G&M has been sucking wind ever since they made the format changes several months ago! Maybe the whole system just gave up the ghost!
Hey Antonio I did notice that the Toronto (Red) Star is now not allowing any comments on climate-related articles (like the one I posted above). Certainly they don’t want anyone speaking against their lies!
John Stossel always gave a clear and even report in his 20/20 pieces rather than alarmist hype. It’s a wonder he lasted as long as he did. Maybe with more freedom at Fox his reports won’t be as infrequent as they were at ABC.
This is the first time I seen the Stossel’s 20/20 piece. It was very good. I thought the piece with the young children was very effective – scary, but effective. (It also illustrates why we should be concerned about what teachers and politicians are saying to schoolkids.) Let’s hope that Fox can provide him with the resources to do a series on these issue and not just a segment.
Good for him. He probably has a better future there. ABC ratings steadily fall and FOX continues to rise. I hope he gets more air time there.
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Captain Obviousness (10:46:40) :
It’s too bad he’s moving – any Fox personality is automatically ignored by the majority of the left.
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We don’t need the left. Very roughly, the US voters are divided equally between conservative, liberal, and moderate. It is the moderates we need to win over. More and more people are watching Fox news because the NY Times, the major TV networks, and other mainstream media outlets don’t report on Comrade Obamas true beliefs and screwups. If you used only main stream media for news, you wouldn’t even have known who Van Jones is. Because MSM are in the tank for Obama, people are turning to Fox and talk radio. Probably a lot of these are moderates who want to know the truth about what’s going on.
John Stossel speaking at the New York conference on global warming, in part of which he tries to instruct the “skeptical” scientists who to relay their side :
His days were numbered on ABC when he did his first ambush interview of multiple chemical sensitivity patients.
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It is tough swimming agin the tide – it makes some more determined.
Over here we have Sky News (Fox news sister) – same lot and definitely not as blind biased as the Beeb, I care not about the current vogue of AGW, (imho) its such guff!- and Mr. Stossel is correct to make a move and the best of luck to him!
Gene:
Many thanks for the video from Heartland. Acquiring Stossel is clearly Fox’s gain and ABC’s loss. It will also benefit Fox because he is no noisesome bs’er and they do have a few there. Perhaps they can benefit from seeing the power of solid background research cleverly and wittily positioned without the histrionics.
The editor of the Victoria, BC, Times Colonist has laid down an explicit policy that she will not allow skeptical climate stories to appear–they cause too much fuss with green readers and consensus climatologists. I also know this is true from personal experience. For eight years I wrote editorials and columns for the TC (I now teach), so obviously I am a professional writer by journalistic standards, but my last four skeptical freelance opeds on climate change were rejected, as are anyone else’s. Stossel could change networks, but where does someone in Victoria go to get the other side? It’s a one-newspaper town.
It looks like Fox is getting the ratings. Just share the news. If the media wants to shape my opinion, I can smell that from a mile away.
I like this web site because it shares new information. It helps us see other theories like solar winds and solar radiation. People that don’t want to learn can enjoy sites like climate progress.
Captain Obviousness (10:46:40) : any Fox personality is automatically ignored by the majority of the left.
I don’t think it’s important to exclusively please those on the far left of politics. FOX has higher ratings than ABC. More people will be seeing him now, more of the average population.
Hi Mark, thanks for letting me know about the Globe. Alan Burke threatened me with going to Matthew Ingram to bar my posts… nice to meet you outside the G&M arena!
Oh Reilly; FOX News “fair balanced”, sureeee…. *sigh*
The old fox who owns Fox news has a simple, and very effective method.
He does not care so much about “Fair and Balanced” as he cares about “Both Sides and Controversy”. As long as both sides are presented, you get an argument, and everybody loves to watch an argument.
The “Old Media” (since Fox now dominates the ratings, I find it hard to not call them the true main stream…, so…) the Old Media think if they just present THEIR “spin” on things, they will influence public opinion. They completely miss the point that only one side, any side, is BORING!
And that, btw, is part of Anthony’s secret… We get the trolls, and The Team, and the AGW True Believers; and along with them, we get the “juice” that makes it interesting. After all, how can you have a “slam dunk” worth watching if their is no opposition at the net (getting slammed, btw 😉
The moderators here and the “stars” on Fox act to keep the game civil and keep the topics “in play”, but are not there to feed you propaganda. The main story on any Fox show will reflect the point of view of the host (as do Anthony’s posts), but then they will bring in the other side for some energy.
It is that mastery of the strain between the two forces that makes it all interesting. It is the complete failure to understand that which makes the “warmer” sites pointless. (It is also why the Loony Left has failure after failure, like Air America, when they try to present propaganda as news. No “juice”… and why the dull network news loses to Fox too, only a single thread of pre-digested starch; no hot sauce…)
BTW, no new postings on http://chiefio.wordpress.com/ but I added a bunch of pictures at the tops of topics. Yeah, I ought to have done it at the time of first publication, but that “juice” thing is hard to do…
excellent film