NOAA: FUBAR high temp/climate records from faulty sensor to remain in place at Honolulu

Honolulu ASOS looking south - click for larger image

Honolulu airport ASOS looking south - photo from NOAA, annotations added

WUWT readers will probably remember yesterdays’ story about the malfunctioning temperature sensor at the ASOS station at Honolulu airport next to an asphalt access road. Well guess what? Even though NOAA admits the sensor is in error by as much as 2 degrees, they are going to keep the data and the string of new high temperature records. “BUT” they fixed the recent record rainfall data from the same station. See below. How’s that for science? Fix one broken record due to faulty equipment but leave others?

FROM KITV-TV (hat tip to Becka)

HONOLULU — Honolulu’s run of record heat came to an end Wednesday, but it may not have been any cooler.The weather has been warm most of the month, with highs in the 90s the past nine days.However, between 11 a.m. and noon, the city’s temperature dropped from Wednesday’s high of 89 degrees to 86 degrees, the same hour a new thermometer was installed at Honolulu International Airport.

The old one had been showing a warm bias of a degree or two, officials said. The National Weather Service said that is not significant enough to throw out the data and recent records.

Here is the string of temperature records that have been set from this faulty ASOS station:



RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT HONOLULU HI

436 PM HST TUE JUN 16 2009

A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 91 DEGREES WAS SET AT HONOLULU HI TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 89 SET IN 2005. $$ HOAG


RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT HONOLULU HI

431 PM HST MON JUN 15 2009

A HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 92 DEGREES AT HONOLULU INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT TODAY BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 90 SET IN 1982. $$


RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT HONOLULU HI

627 PM HST SUN JUN 14 2009

A TEMPERATURE OF 92 DEGREES AT HONOLULU INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT TODAY BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 90 SET IN 2005. $$


RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT HONOLULU HI

456 PM HST SAT JUN 13 2009

A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 92 DEGREES WAS SET AT HONOLULU HI TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 90 SET IN 2005. $$


RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT HONOLULU

525 PM HST FRI JUN 12 2009

A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 92 DEGREES WAS SET AT HONOLULU TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 89 SET IN 1993. $$


RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE TIED AT HONOLULU HI

426 PM HST THU JUN 11 2009

A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 92 DEGREES WAS TIED AT HONOLULU HI TODAY. THIS TIES THE OLD RECORD OF 92 SET IN 1996. $$


RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT HONOLULU HI

427 PM HST WED JUN 10 2009

A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 92 DEGREES WAS SET AT HONOLULU HI TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 91 SET IN 1982. $$


RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT HONOLULU HI

430 PM HST TUE JUN 9 2009

A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 91 DEGREES AT HONOLULU INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT TODAY BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 90 SET IN 2003. $$


RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT HONOLULU HI

0426 PM HST MON JUN 08 2009

A HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 92 DEGREES HONOLULU INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT TODAY BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 90 SET IN 1997. $$


RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT HONOLULU HI

428 PM HST FRI JUN 05 2009

A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 91 DEGREES WAS SET AT HONOLULU HI TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 90 SET IN 1997. $$ WATKINS

RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT HONOLULU
445 PM HST TUE JUN 2 2009

A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 91 DEGREES WAS SET AT HONOLULU TODAY. THIS TIES THE OLD RECORD OF 91 SET IN 1996. $$


CORRECTION TO RAINFALL RECORD AT HONOLULU AIRPORT

0915 PM HST THU MAY 28 2009

DUE TO TECHNICAL PROBLEMS…THE HONOLULU AIRPORT OBSERVATION STATED A RECORD RAINFALL OF 0.14 INCHES FOR THURSDAY MAY 28…BUT THIS IS INCORRECT. ONLY 0.02 INCHES FELL AT THE AIRPORT. NO RECORD WAS BROKEN. $$ MORRISON


RECORD DAILY MAXIMUM RAINFALL SET AT HONOLULU HI

445 PM HST THU MAY 28 2009

HONOLULU INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT RECORDED RAINFALL OF 0.14 INCHES TODAY BREAKING THE OLD RECORD OF 0.11 SET IN 1963. $$


Let me say it first:  THIS IS JUST WRONG.

If they know the error, how can they possibly justify keeping the new maximum records? You can’t get away with this sort of thing in the world of professional sports records, Olympic records, or even the cheesy Guinness Book of Records.  Heck they even fix mistakes made on the TV quiz show Jeopardy and dock the contestant’s winnings!

Surely NOAA has more scruples than a TV game show?

If the record can’t be verified because the equipment is faulty, how does that make it a valid record? They can’t, it’s FUBAR!

Here is the contact email links (right off their web page, I’m not outing anymore)  for the Meteorologist in Charge and staff  at NWS Honolulu. I say we give them an earful.

James Weyman
Meteorologist in Charge
Richard Knabb
Director of Operations
Robert Ballard
Science & Operations Officer
Ray Tanabe
Warning Coordination Meteorologist
Kevin Kodama
Hydrologist
Bill Boone
Electronic System Analyst
Pam Fujiwara
Administrative Assistant

Or if you’d like to write:

National Weather Service Forecast Office
2525 Correa Road, Suite 250
Honolulu, HI 96822-2219

Tel: (808) 973-5286

UPDATE:

WUWT reader Leon Brozyna points out the temperature dropped 3 degrees at the time of the sensor change, not 2 as indicated in the original TV story admission by NWS PHNL.

I’ve recovered the hourly data from the ASOS station and that is verified. Note there do not seem to be any other meteorological conditions that occurred at that time (such as increased cloud cover or rain) that could add a cooling trend.  With solar insolation still increasing, and the high of the day likely yet to occur ( there was a second peak later) it seems that the sensor was off at least 3 degrees. Plus the temperature trend at that time of the day is usually upwards, so it may be even more than 3 degrees. Possibly 4.- Anthony

Source: http://www.weather.gov/data/obhistory/PHNL.html

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Time
(hst)
Wind
(mph)
Vis.
(mi.)
Weather Sky Cond. Temperature (ºF) Pressure Precipitation (in.)
Air Dwpt 6 hour altimeter
(in.)
sea level
(mb)
1 hr 3 hr 6 hr
Max. Min.
17 17:53 E 16 10.00 Mostly Cloudy FEW033 BKN075 83 67 30.00 1015.7
17 16:53 NE 20 G 24 10.00 Mostly Cloudy SCT028 BKN049 85 67 29.98 1015.3
17 15:53 NE 14 G 24 10.00 Mostly Cloudy SCT028 BKN070 86 66 29.98 1015.3
17 14:53 NE 18 G 25 10.00 Mostly Cloudy SCT044 BKN075 87 65 29.99 1015.6
17 13:53 NE 14 G 24 10.00 Mostly Cloudy SCT042 BKN075 88 65 89 84 30.00 1016.0
17 12:53 NE 13 G 22 10.00 Partly Cloudy FEW043 SCT075 87 65 30.02 1016.4
17 11:53 NE 20 G 25 10.00 Partly Cloudy SCT045 86 65 30.03 1016.9
17 10:53 E 15 G 23 10.00 Partly Cloudy SCT042 89 66 30.04 1017.3
17 09:53 E 15 G 24 10.00 A Few Clouds FEW042 86 65 30.05 1017.5
17 08:53 NE 16 G 24 10.00 A Few Clouds FEW040 86 67 30.05 1017.5
17 07:53 E 15 G 22 10.00 A Few Clouds FEW033 84 66 84 79 30.05 1017.5
17 06:53 E 7 10.00 A Few Clouds FEW033 82 67 30.04 1017.2
17 05:53 E 7 10.00 Partly Cloudy FEW028 SCT060 80 68 30.03 1016.8
17 04:53 NE 5 10.00 Partly Cloudy FEW033 SCT065 80 67 30.01 1016.3

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127 thoughts on “NOAA: FUBAR high temp/climate records from faulty sensor to remain in place at Honolulu

  1. The temperature data may not be scientifically correct but it is politically correct. Lying about temperature is ok because it counters the lies of the denialists with hard science…oh wait, it doesn’t does it?

  2. Incredible. I’m dumbfounded… stupefied. Isn’t this whole “climate change” issue about a ~1 degree change over 100 years? And to boot… isn’t the new sensor in the same deplorable location (read: still over-reporting the temperature)? Wow…

  3. (Apparently the) Recorded 20th century warming is of 0.7 degrees celcius.

    The old one had been showing a warm bias of a degree or two, officials said. The National Weather Service said that is not significant enough to throw out the data and recent records.

    So the average measured temp is 0.7C +/- an error bar of 2 degrees F ??? an it’s acceptable ???

    One can only shake one’s head at such folly.

  4. “Surely NOAA has more scruples than a TV game show?” No.

    If they had a string of record low high temps, I bet they would throw out that data – it wouldn’t mesh with the program of global warming.

    Let’s try some new words and see if they recognize them:

    honesty – integrity – ethics … get the picture?

  5. Come on, look at the bright side. From now on the weather station will show a global cooling of 2 degrees – - – if they don’t throw out the new numbers.

  6. What’s really funny is that there are several other stations in the same geographical area as Honolulu that consistently report temperatures 2 – 5 degrees lower.

  7. Time out!

    Something else I noticed.

    They said that the old thermometer had “a warm bias of a degree or two…” So, at 11am the old thermometer recorded a temp of 89° and, an hour later, the new thermometer recorded a temp of 86°. I may not do too well with the new math, but with the old math I learned, it looks like the temperature dropped 3° in an hour. I’d say that that’s more than a degree or two of warm bias.

    REPLY: With solar insolation still increasing, and the high of the day likely yet to occur, chances are that may be a valid observation. Plus the temperature trend at that time of the day is usually upwards, so it may be even more than 3 degrees. Possibly 4. Here is the hourly data, the temperature is right after the sky conditions report. Note no change in sky conditions at 10-11AM. – Anthony

    17 17:53 E 16 10.00 Mostly Cloudy FEW033 BKN075 83 67 30.00 1015.7
    17 16:53 NE 20 G 24 10.00 Mostly Cloudy SCT028 BKN049 85 67 29.98 1015.3
    17 15:53 NE 14 G 24 10.00 Mostly Cloudy SCT028 BKN070 86 66 29.98 1015.3
    17 14:53 NE 18 G 25 10.00 Mostly Cloudy SCT044 BKN075 87 65 29.99 1015.6
    17 13:53 NE 14 G 24 10.00 Mostly Cloudy SCT042 BKN075 88 65 89 84 30.00 1016.0
    17 12:53 NE 13 G 22 10.00 Partly Cloudy FEW043 SCT075 87 65 30.02 1016.4
    17 11:53 NE 20 G 25 10.00 Partly Cloudy SCT045 86 65 30.03 1016.9
    17 10:53 E 15 G 23 10.00 Partly Cloudy SCT042 89 66 30.04 1017.3
    17 09:53 E 15 G 24 10.00 A Few Clouds FEW042 86 65 30.05 1017.5
    17 08:53 NE 16 G 24 10.00 A Few Clouds FEW040 86 67 30.05 1017.5
    17 07:53 E 15 G 22 10.00 A Few Clouds FEW033 84 66 84 79 30.05 1017.5
    17 06:53 E 7 10.00 A Few Clouds FEW033 82 67 30.04 1017.2

  8. “the city’s temperature dropped from Wednesday’s high of 89 degrees to 86 degrees, the same hour a new thermometer was installed at Honolulu International Airport.”

    Funny, that’s the same temp drop experienced as the WEAC1 sensor was replaced right before my very eyes. I’m guessing it’s one of those super-duper jobs made by a very special company overseas…Finland if I recall the converstation with the tech correctly.

  9. But…

    …If they declare 1-2 degrees as being “insignificant”, this has grave ramifications for the entire record.

    It would imply >=2 degree error bars for the entire historical record, which in turn renders the .7 degree warming rather meaningless.

    This is just plain silly.

    It may well be that they have taken leave of physical reality altogether and finally ascended to the higher, purer truth of the modeled reality, but I’m not so sure if this will play out well with the unwashed masses.

    Unless carbon offset trading, treadmills, more and better private jets for the nomenklatura and all the other stuff will ALSO be acted out in the higher reality rather than in the gross material world…

    I could live with that.

  10. This is insane! What’s the point of keeping data “records” if the “data” is admittedly WRONG??? Heck…might as well make ‘em up or throw darts at a picture of a thermometer!!

    Shouldn’t pressure also be put on the NWS headquarters? Perhaps someone higher up the NWS foodchain who actually CARES about scientific accuracy will pressure Honolulu to adjust their “records” accordingly?

    Another wonderful episode supporting the Surface Stations project…too bad this kind of crap is the basis for political AGW decisions!

  11. If you look at the June 2009 cf6 climate pages for Hawaii you find the following departures from normal (deg F) for 1-16 June 2009:

    Honolulu +4.6
    Lihue +1.2
    Kahului -0.2
    Hilo +0.7

    Comparing Honolulu with the other 3 Hawaiian sites suggest the error over the 1st 16 days of June has been close to +4.0 deg F at Honolulu.

    An error this large should certainly invalidate most or all of the daily records set in June 2009.

  12. I love the writing style of this post.
    You really give it to them.
    And they deserve it.
    We will not rest before they correct their data, including the records, right?

    Let’s make a row about it in Congress this week.
    It could help to railroad the planned vote on the Waxman Bill next week.
    Inhofe would love to break the story to Congress telling them why Hawai broke temperature records to proof Global Warming.

    In the process we should also check on the CO2 measurement equipment.
    Maybe one of their operators is smoking cigars near the sensor or they might have put it on top of an active volcano?

    With NOAA today everything is possible.
    Never seen such a drive and ambition with an meteorological organization.
    How they cling to their temperature records is amazing.
    It borders to real fanatism!
    The kind of fanatism we observed during the Cold War on the other side of the Iron Curtain where Comrad Officials told the people about record harvests and record industrial production output at times when the shops were empty and the people had nothing to eat.
    We won that war and now we have to win this one.
    [snip - lets not incite any further name calling ]

  13. From a UK perspective it is very surprising that NOAA think that the new Honalulu records should stand; when a significant new maximum (or minimum) record is set here the thermometer is usually tested against another before the new record becomes official. IRRC the thermometer at Alltnaharra which recorded -27.2C on 20th December 1995 was sent to London to be checked before the record (equal with Braemar in 1982 and also 1895) was accepted. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altnaharra

  14. Their recording devices are broken
    And their temperature record is hokum
    But to freely admit
    The Team’s full of [snip, implied profanity]
    Would really just completely choke ‘em

  15. it appears that there are no guidelines and standards. this is pitty, because such unprofessional work is used to spend trillions of tax payer dollars.

  16. Dena (22:05:59) :

    Come on, look at the bright side. From now on the weather station will show a global cooling of 2 degrees – – – if they don’t throw out the new numbers.

    I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they apply a correction to the new thermometer data for the sake of historical continuity.
    \they did it with the polar ice.

  17. This BBC article should be titled “How not to measure temperature in Africa”

    They are planning to deploy 5,000 automatic weather stations across the continent mounted on phone masts.

    Of course, being attached to a steel structure, probably with nearby generators, wont introduce any form of bias into the record.

  18. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they apply a correction to the new thermometer data for the sake of historical continuity.
    \they did it with the polar ice.

    Believe it, it will be “rounded up”. Or dropped as anomalous. Hello from 1984.

  19. I think it is called desperation. Your analogy with TV quiz shows is well chosen, except we seem to be dealing with less mature people here, who cannot entertain the idea of their “winnings” being taken back.

    They cannot understand the difference between fraud and petulant disappointment.

    • Interesting conundrum these scientists find themselves in.

      They know the decision is absurd, and yet, no quarter, no victory, no matter how small, can be delivered to those who deny the orthodoxy.

      The question is really not when they will change their minds, because they can’t politically unless pressured from above, but instead, how guilty do they feel? And for how long? I pity them.

  20. Email Hawaii’s Dept of Tourism and notify them that you’ll be vacationing in Tahiti this year because of the record temperatures in Hawaii.

  21. Perhaps the Honolulu station is too important as a generator of nice neat virtual grid nodes out in the wide blue Pacific. Do these people measure the CO2 up that volcano as well?

  22. “Let me say it first: THIS IS JUST WRONG.” Thank you, Anthony, for saying it first and so clearly. A faulty sensor off at least 3 degrees and they are going to keep the records and verify the raw data gathered as scientific???

    I join Ron de Haan in “loving the writing style of this post” (as well as all the others, Anthony) and I will join other WUWTers in writing in protest re shameless subversion of science.

    In my usual “clean out those dirty stables style”, I think: Whoever approved this should lose their job(s). Of course, James Weyman, Meterologist in Charge, couldn’t possibly be responsible. I wonder, does he feel guilt (jeez)? How about the rest of the meterology staff — Richard Knabb, Robert Ballard, Ray Tanabe, Kevin Kodama, Bill Boone, Pam Fujiwara? (Sorry, Pam, Admin Assistant, but you are on this list — maybe you can give your bosses an earful?) Do they know that we live in a representative democracy, not an authoritarian state? And What’s Up With NOAA? Are “they” playing God?

    [snip -policy - political and off topic]

  23. dearieme (02:51:06) :

    “This thermometer is dead.”
    “No it’s pining for the fjords.”

    “It’s on it’s back, It’s joined the choir invisible”
    “Naaah, it’s just got a touch of heatstroke, that’s all”

  24. The Hawaian with immaculate scruples
    Checked the temp with dilating pupils
    “Cor blimey!” he cried
    “The thermometer’s fried”
    “We’ll just tell ‘em the anomaly quadruples”

    Clean enough for you? :-)

  25. Hey does that mean that we can now say there has been a pronounced cooling over the past week in Honolulu?
    I wonder if we will see stories about how the temp next winter is a few degrees lower than last year…..

  26. Really wierd how all the erroros, fubars and otherwise screwed up data always seems to skew one way. Just weird how random the errors are. I am sure it’s just an error.

    And you wonder why people know a hoax when they see one.

  27. Every error in the warm direction not so important. Its warmer and confirms the models. No need to look as suspicious data:

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/11/10/giss-releases-october-2008-data/

    But an error in the CO2 record that shows a drop. Fixed within 12 hours:

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/08/04/one-day-later-mauna-loa-co2-graph-changes-data-doesnt/

    A new record cold temperature for Maine needs a month of forensic study to confirm it and to make sure the record is left in doubt until it is no longer news:

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/02/10/50%C2%B0f-new-all-time-record-low-confirmed-in-maine/

    Don’t bother calling me for jury duty. I do not believe a singe word any government employee says.

  28. examine this quote from the BBC article:

    “The previous report – UKCIP2002 – is now seven years old, and included projections from just one computer model. By contrast, UKCP09 has collated data from 400 variations of the model developed by the Hadley Centre, part of the Met Office. Each variant has been checked to see how well it predicted the climate of past decades; and the numbers have been compared with projections of other computer models.”

    This author doesn’t even realize they still are using JUST ONE MODEL! 400 slightly altered parameters are NOT 400 models! If the underlying model has a basic conceptual flaw, then every variation of that model is affected by the same flaw. (that should be common sense, but not to the Met Office or the BBC, obviously)

    So, they have repeated all original errors 400 times, and they are calling the incessant repetition of the errors their “confidence factor”.

    And then they throw in the bit about backtesting. How are those backtested models working out for you on the financial markets, guys?

  29. Texas Aggie (04:46:15) :

    > As a Marine, I think FUBAR means FUBAR and it was the perfect choice of terms.

    Let’s hope it doesn’t become standard operating procedure at other sites in which case we’ll have to use SNAFU.

  30. OT but I’m sure of interest, the UK Met Office and BBC are in hysterical overdrive today. The Met Office has introduced a new interactive local climate predictor for regions across the UK.

    The BBC article covering this is here:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/sci_nat/04/climate_change/html/greenhouse.stm

    It has now been amplified on TV News this lunchtime, with that balanced reporter Shukman covering it. The world will be relieved to know that no less than Gordon Brown has put on a hard hat and stood on the Thames Barrier to highlight how serious the threat of London being inundated is.

    The Beeb also has a wonderful grahic explaining how global warming works. See if you can spot what’s missing . You can find it here:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8107014.stm

    Finally there is the interactive Britain gimmick. I’ve only had a quick peep at my region – NW England – but I was appalled at the graphs comparing e.g. winter rainfall now and 41 years hence. Now it’s 322mm and in 2050 it will be possibly 365mm (+ 40 or – 30), approx 10% difference but shown as a bar of twice the height.

    But on a brighter note, the news item on BBC did end by saying it is only a possibility

    http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climatechange/guide/ukcp/

    On a less bright note they also claimed that severe floods in UK 2 years ago (you remember, the year the met office pedicted a long hot summer) were clear evidence of global warming.

    Resigned sigh!

  31. PaulHClark (01:53:08) :

    FUBAR in this instance means F Useless But Alright Really.

    That’s close enough to the U.S. military acronym ["F'd Up Beyond All Repair"]. In this instance, SNAFU would work just as well for the NOAA [Situation Normal; All F'd Up].

    [For the moderators, "All F'd Up = All 'Fouled' Up. ;^) ]

  32. Here’s an idea.

    I haven’t followed the debate closely, but people have suggested flagging steroid-tainted baseball records with a footnote or S for Steroids.

    Perhaps the NWS can do the same, but in this case S can stand for Sensor, or stupid, or snafu, or….

  33. Further to OT comment above, you cna find even more UK climate projections here:

    http://ukcp09.defra.gov.uk/

    You need to register and then log-in but can then play with the data to your heart’s content. It’s geographical resolution is I think 15x15km square.

    You will be glad to know it is all based on “Sound Science” -
    “The science underlying UKCP09 has been the subject of peer review within the scientific literature (see references within the sciences reports). In addition, to checking and verifying the methodology and outputs throughout their development, a peer review panel examined the methodologies used to produce the climate projections and the marine and coastal projections, as well as those to develop the weather generator tool, and found that they are credible using state-of-the-art science and methodologies. The team of reviewers also noted that the work carried out was of high standard and represented a large step beyond UKCIP02.

    The scientific reports and user guidance have benefited from recommendations to improve the description and communications of the methodologies and assumptions, including the implications for use. “

  34. While we sit here discussing the absurdity of this situation, the AGW cult is spreading. It isn’t funny anymore. I’m with Vaclav Klaus: This cult may be the greatest threat to freedom and peace since the Nazis. And now its members are running this country. We all need to do our part to deprogram as many people as we can.

  35. Off topic, but I wonder if anyone is interested in the June issue of this report by a government climate change cabal

    http://www.globalchange.gov/publications/reports/scientific-assessments/us-impacts

    I have only scanned this but it seeems to be more of the same old propaganda except they report that the discrepancy between teperature data and the computer models in the troposphere vs surface temperatures have been resolved. The temperature data is corrected via the saussage machine!

  36. Ric Werme:

    I haven’t followed the debate closely, but people have suggested flagging steroid-tainted baseball records with a footnote or S for Steroids.

    I think they used an asterisk [*] in the record book, indicating that the record-setting was done while using steroids.

    That would be OK with me. Use an asterisk next to the dodgy climate record claims. Then we know which numbers are legit… and which aren’t.

  37. If we could correct the record for poorly placed sites and faulty equipment, what happens to all the warming? And what is the margin of error for the temperature anomaly?

  38. Some medical acronyms that may apply to the NOAA [I especially like FOS] :

    SFRDKWHTSF – Some Farking Retard -
    Don’t Know Why He Talks So Funny.
    GOMER – Get Out of My Emergency Room
    FTF – Failure To Fly (jumper)
    CC – Crispy Critter
    ETOH – Either Tipsy Or High
    DSTO (veterinary) – Dog Smarter Than Owner
    TF BUNDY (veterinary) – Totally Farked But
    Unfortunately Not Dead Yet
    FOS – Constipated [Full Of Sh__]
    TwoCC – Two Carbon Chained [Drunk]
    T2T Ratio – Tattoo To Tooth Ratio
    DBI – Dirt Bag Index ( T x T = Number of Unbathed Days)
    Summer Teeth – “some are here and some are not”
    FLK – Funny Looking Kid
    ICBINS – I Can’t Believe It’s Not Smegma
    HOP – Hang Over Poo
    CRAFT – Can’t Remember A Farking Thing
    TEETH – Tried Everything Else, Try Homeopathy
    FITH – Farked In The Head
    NQRITH – Not Quite Right In The Head
    GOK – God Only Knows
    LGFTC – Looks Good From The Corridor
    LGFD – Looks Good From Doorway
    KBSB – Kicked Bed, Still Breathing
    DILLIGAF – Do I Look Like I Give A Fark?
    90/10 Rule – 90% of assaults are deserved.
    10 minutes after arrival, you want to
    smack them yourself.
    BMT – Bowel Movement Taco (don’t ask)
    TNWTLSITM – There is No Way That Little Shiat Is
    Touching Me
    SFRDKWHTSF – So Farking Retarded, Doesn’t Know Which
    Hole To Shiat FromTTFO – “To Take Fluid Orally” (Told To Fark Off)
    BOHICA – Bend Over, Here It Comes Again
    UPOS – Useless Piece Of Shiat
    Plumbum oscillans – (lat.) “Swinging the Lead” (malingering)
    SHS – Sullen/Hostile/Stupid (Inner City)
    PBKAC (administrative) – Problem Between Keyboard
    And Chair [universally applicable]
    CC TOTDN – Cancel Christmas, This One is Taking a Dirt Nap
    GSWP – Gun Shot Wound/Penis
    FDGB – Fall Down Go Boom
    URTI – “Upper Respiratory Tract Infection” (Also: You Are Too Idle)
    SRI – Something Rong Inside
    SVRI – Something Very Rong Inside
    GORK – God Only Really Knows
    WC – Walking Corpse
    BUSOA – Blood Unpredictably Spurting Out Arse (Brit.)
    DOT – Dead On Toilet
    DIB – Dead In Bed (literally)
    CRUMP – Patient who is permanently crumpled
    TMB – Too Many Birthdays (old age)
    LUBL – Liquored Up but Legal
    LURTS – Liquored Up, Return To Sender (police)
    DFKDFC – Don’t Farking Know, Don’t Farking Care
    TSTOM – Too Stupid To Operate Machines
    FIG – Found In Gutter
    ACIDEC “the whole shootin’ match” – Abdominal drains, Colostomy, Ileostomy, Duodenostomy, Esophagostomy, Chest tubes
    Rule of 5 – Any five of the above list; usually fatal
    PITA – Pain In The Ass
    NTD – Needs To Die
    TSTL – Too Stupid To Live
    TWSAM – Trash Will Survive And Multiply
    BWCOD – Baby Won’t Come Out, Dammit (said prior to
    C-Section)
    Oligoneuronic – (Lat.) “Few brain cells”
    Azooneuronic – (Lat.) “No brain cells”
    LART – Loser Attitude Readjustment Tool (any medical
    instrument used to discipline and/or punish an obnoxious patient.)
    BGFH – Bastard Goner From Hell (trying violently and
    messily to die while using maximum emergency
    room resources and creating great disruption)
    DNTMA – Do not Transfer Me Again (patient shuffled about
    until chief surgeon intervenes to stop it)
    Neeper – onomatopoeic – Chronic whiner making sound
    described as “neep neep nop…”
    Starfish – No brain
    STC – Spoke To Child (child more coherent than parent)
    Zorched – Human, machine or electronic part damaged
    beyond repair
    Urban Legend – Bigfoot victim
    Spewmaster – Punter with large volume of vomit (Brit.)
    DRTFM – Didn’t Read The Farking Manual (parents
    who stupidly injure their child) (also Lat.:
    enchiriordum futuentum lege, “Read the tech
    manual”)
    TGMRAAFU – This Guy’s Medical Records Are All
    Farked Up
    AIDY – Am I Dead Yet? (patient who doesn’t believe they
    are still alive
    HIBGIA – Had It Before, Got It Again
    CCFCCP – Coo Coo For Cocoa Puffs
    Glow Worms – HAZMAT personnel
    Pharmaceutically gifted – drugged out
    Trans-occipital implant – gunshot to head
    Urban outdoorsmen – homeless
    PVC Challenge – endotracheal intubation
    NLPR – No Longer Playing Records (deceased)
    CTD – Circling the drain – Terminal
    GFPO – Good For Parts Only (terminal)
    UBI – Unexplained Beer Injury
    PAFO – Pissed And Fell Over
    AMTFO – Asked me To Fark Off
    Code Brown – fecal incontinence emergency
    O-Sign – unconscious with mouth open
    Q-Sign – unconscious with mouth open, tongue
    hanging out
    LOBNH – Lights On But Nobody Home
    Pumpkin Positive – Light shown through mouth will
    illuminate head, brainless
    PIMBA – (Port.) “swollen footed run-over drunk”
    Rice Krispies – subcutaneous air
    PID – Pink In Dere (Pelvic Inflammatory Disease)
    KSS – Kidney Stone Shuffle
    Band-Aid Bunnies – female EMS
    IWTSFI – I Wish They’d Stop Faking It
    HHPTBY – Has He Paid The Bill Yet?
    FA11 – Film At 11 (important pending X-Ray)
    SCFC – Search Crack(s) For Crack

  39. This reading is just in time for AGW Cap and Trade solutions. I am starting to think that Washington is going to destroy the US dollar and the world is going to a standard currency, that’s the plan. I can add as to what will follow this, if your interested.

    The USSA cannot afford GM, AIG and Bank bailouts, Cap and Trade, Government Health care that cost $1 trillon to cover 1/3rd of those without insurance.

    It’s going beyond what is normal, don’t you think?
    I enjoyed my first 50 years as an American, I don’t think I am going to enjoy the next 20+ years though. If I am blessed enough to live that long. Maybe it will be better if I don’t?

  40. Per the statement from the “official” link below, not just Hawaii is getting warmer.

    The combined average global land and ocean surface temperatures for May 2009 ranked fourth warmest since worldwide records began in 1880, according to an analysis by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C.

    http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090617_globalmay.html

    My favorite doublespeak on artic ice coverage is below.
    May 2009 is 1.6% less than 1979-2000 average, but should be “on the average” down 7.5% (per the decade average decrease)

    Arctic sea ice covered an average of 5.17 million square miles during May. This is 1.6 percent less than the 1979-2000 average extent. By contrast, Antarctic sea ice extent in May was 6.6 percent above the 1979-2000 average. Since 1979, May Arctic sea ice extent has decreased by 2.5 percent per decade, while May Antarctic sea ice extent has increased by 2.1 percent per decade during the same period.

  41. Yes it is wrong. Is it worth fixing or worrying about – of course not.

    NOBODY needed to waste time, money and effort to worry about this kind of long term accuracy and precision of sensors in the days before mass AGW hysteria. After all, in the past it is simply about the weather…now it is life and death of our dear precious Gaia…..what piffle.

  42. Soylent Green is People! I’m afraid we’re screwed. Now the government is ignoring facts. It’s not going to change until the there is ice crossing the Canadian Border all the way to Texas.

  43. This story is simply amazing. Honolulu has a faulty thermometer but all the records set there are kept. Meanwhile as soon as Illinois and Maine set all-time temperature records this past winter they were called into question the day it happened. In fact, so rigorous was the process in trying to ‘debunk’ these records the Illinois one was rescinded that very day. Meanwhile the Maine record took nearly a MONTH to verify and was buried in the news with quotes from alarmists “This does not prove global warming does not exist!”

    PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
    NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO IL
    432 PM CST FRI JAN 16 2009

    …REGARDING ROCHELLE`S LOW TEMPERATURE THIS MORNING…
    THE AUTOMATED WEATHER OBSERVING SYSTEM (AWOS) AT THE ROCHELLE
    AIRPORT RECORDED A TEMPERATURE OF -36F AT 745 AM THIS MORNING.
    WHILE THE THERMOMETER ON THE AWOS WAS RE-CALIBRATED YESTERDAY
    AND MAY INDEED BE ACCURATE…AWOS OBSERVATIONS ARE NOT QUALITY
    CONTROLLED OR CALIBRATED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AND
    ARE ALSO NOT DESIGNED FOR CLIMATE PURPOSES.
    THEREFORE…THE STATE CLIMATOLOGIST DOES NOT CONSIDER THIS
    TEMPERATURE AN OFFICIAL MEASUREMENT FOR THE PURPOSE OF
    DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT AN ALL TIME RECORD LOW FOR THE
    STATE WAS REACHED. FOR THE PURPOSE OF DETERMINING RECORD
    TEMPERATURES FOR THE STATE…ONLY ASOS AND
    COOPERATIVE OBSERVER OBSERVATIONS WILL BE USED SINCE BOTH OF
    THESE OBSERVATIONS ARE QUALITY CONTROLLED BY THE
    NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE.

    So, I ask, where’s the quality control here for Honolulu?? The quality was found to be bad, but the control is lax.

    The Honolulu ‘heat wave’ has already been picked up by media outlets but I seriously doubt a follow-up story will find its way through the editor’s office explaining how far off the temperature recording equipment was or that there may have been no records set once these errors were taken into account.

    Here’s some articles written recently, with excerpts.

    It’s Hot!

    In the first fifteen days of the month the temperature at Honolulu International Airport has either tied or broken a previous record high. The 92 degrees registered at the airport Monday was yet another record, breaking the previous one of 90 degrees all the way back in 1982.

    “We’re only a couple of degrees over the record highs but certainly that’s all it takes,” said National Weather Service forecaster Derek Wroe. Monday’s high temperature at the airport was the eighth day in a row a record has been tied or broken.

    Oahu Swelters Through Record Heat Wave

    Forecasters Say All Time Heat Reaches Eighth Day

    HONOLULU — Honolulu has been experiencing unusually hot weather for this time of year, weather officials said.

    It is the eighth day that temperatures have reached as high as 92 degrees. It is an all-time record for June — 5 degrees above average.

    Early sizzle fries Oahu

    Shave ice sales and AC unit rentals heat up as summer moves in

    Honolulu has burned up records for eight days with sizzling temperatures.

    “As far as the records go, it’s just a single digit that’s sending it to the record category consecutively,” said Vic Dejesus of the National Weather Service. “It’s still exceeding 90s or above most days.”

    From June 8 through yesterday, the record for high temperature was broken on seven days, and tied on one. Temperatures consistently reached 91 to 92 degrees last week and will continue to be in the low 90s this week, according to the National Weather Service’s Web site.

    All is not bad, however. There has been one met over there on Hawaii that seems to get it.

    I Don’t Think You’re That Hot

    We’ve done it again.

    For the eighth day in a row, Honolulu has busted or tied a temperature record. Today, we melted the 1985 record. And I’m starting to think something is wrong.

    No, not the global warming kind of wrong.

    But perhaps there’s something amiss with the equipment taking these readings.

    Have you noticed that Honolulu’s temperature has been about 8-10 degrees warmer than the rest of the state each day?

    But 10 degrees warmer? It doesn’t add up.

    Or perhaps the most compelling evidence of all: 91 in Honolulu, but 84 just seven miles away at Kalaeloa? Something’s up.

    It’s time for someone from the National Weather Service to take a trip down to the Honolulu International Airport, and do a little check-up on the temperature machine.

    Because there’s nothing cool about breaking records with broken equipment.

  44. Headline?

    Honolulu… NWS Blamed For Huge Drop in Tourism Dollars

    A city counselman anonymously asked, “With the shaky economy here, this bogus attack on Honolulu is the last thing we needed. Isn’t there anyone in charge at the weather service?”

  45. Accuracy is always important, but temperature sensors need to be particularly accurate (and precise) in tropical areas, where interannual variation is very slight. In temperate continental areas, the frequency with which a sensor error of 1-4 degrees F would cause a new record to be set would be relatively low, because of the greater inherent variability in day-to-day and interannual temperature. In the middle of the Pacific, every sunny day at a given time of year has pretty much the same temperature. If the sensor is off, you will break records very frequently. They obviously need to delete those records. I’m not sure if they’re trying to support global warming, or whether they just want to cover their behind after the media made a big deal about the heat.

  46. ‘Peter Plail (05:37:28) :

    The Beeb also has a wonderful grahic explaining how global warming works. See if you can spot what’s missing . You can find it here:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8107014.stm

    Is the quote from this article a record? I’ve only seen 11 degrees before! :-)

    “But if greenhouse gas emissions rise quickly, that figure could be as high as 12C, Mr Benn said. ”

    cheers David

  47. Tom Woods (07:16:35) :

    Tom – to be fair, I checked out one of the stories in your post, and they do appear to allude to the FUBAR (see below). Growing up in SC, I do have to laugh about 90 F being “sizzling” hot for the islanders!

    PS
    Note the line below about the record breaking temperatures “could be inaccurate” – wow, really??? Maybe because of an inaccurate thermometer?

    Early sizzle fries Oahu

    Shave ice sales and AC unit rentals heat up as summer moves in

    By Kaylee Noborikawa

    POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Jun 16, 2009
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    Honolulu has burned up records for eight days with sizzling temperatures.

    “As far as the records go, it’s just a single digit that’s sending it to the record category consecutively,” said Vic Dejesus of the National Weather Service. “It’s still exceeding 90s or above most days.”

    From June 8 through yesterday, the record for high temperature was broken on seven days, and tied on one. Temperatures consistently reached 91 to 92 degrees last week and will continue to be in the low 90s this week, according to the National Weather Service’s Web site.

    Temperatures for Honolulu are recorded at Honolulu Airport, and technicians have found that the thermometer shows a warm bias — elevated readings perhaps due to airplane engines or reflected heat from concrete.

    Dejesus noted that the record-breaking temperatures could be inaccurate, but the weather has been hot nonetheless.

    “I’ve been seeing Honolulu exceed the warmer areas by quite a bit, but it could be because of the warm bias,” said Dejesus.

    He said tradewinds have been light to moderate, but are expected to increase at the end of this week, so Honolulu will feel slightly cooler.

    Until then, residents will just have to sweat it out.

  48. “TerryS (01:50:29) :

    This BBC article should be titled “How not to measure temperature in Africa”

    They are planning to deploy 5,000 automatic weather stations across the continent mounted on phone masts.

    Of course, being attached to a steel structure, probably with nearby generators, wont introduce any form of bias into the record.”

    Reply:Mobile phone base stations produce heat and have air conditioning to cool them. Also you are correct in Africa because the power grid is unreliable most sites use generators to power them. Question is will they sue the data for weather or climate

  49. More computer model based nonsense

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8107014.stm

    “The government hopes UKCP09 will allow citizens, local authorities and businesses to plan for future decades.
    It uses computer models of the world’s climate to make projections of parameters such as temperature, rainfall and wind.”

    Yes, you read correctly. They said their computer model can predict the behaviour of wind and rain decades from now.

  50. From the same list as the Honolulu record high:

    RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE TIED AT LIHUE HI
    434 PM HST THU MAY 21 2009

    A RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE OF 61 DEGREES WAS TIED AT LIHUE HI TODAY. THIS TIES THE OLD RECORD OF 61 SET IN 1985. $$

    RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE SET AT LIHUE HI
    428 PM HST WED MAY 20 2009

    A RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE OF 61 DEGREES WAS SET AT LIHUE HI TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 62 SET IN 1985. $$

    RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE SET AT LIHUE HI
    430 PM HST TUE MAY 19 2009

    A RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE OF 61 DEGREES SET AT LIHUE HI TODAY BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 63 SET IN 1985. $$

    Let’s see how long it takes them to ‘correct’ that.

  51. Something similar occurred at SeaTac Airport from Dec 2005 – Feb 2006 where the ASOS temperature sensor was off by +2 to +3 deg F over a period of about 2 months. It would have gone on longer except some of us diligent temperature watchers brought it to the attention of the NWS who then diagnosed and fixed the problem. It makes you wonder if an overall warm bias may have developed in the ASOS temperature reporting. There also are some serious quality control issues with ASOS precipitation data. There are now many bogus reports of measurable precipitation where none occurred. For instance, take a look at the 0.01″ reported from Tucson today (18 Jun 2009).

  52. Referring to something Peter Plail wrote – I’ve often wondered, how does one peer review the results of a flawed computer model? And then expect to get away with it…?

  53. OT: The Sarychev eruption is the greatest SO2 injection(to 50,000 feet) of the year, via Volcanism, Eruptions and Seablogger blogs.

  54. @Jason Salit (21:59:45) : “the new sensor in the same deplorable location”

    Think about it for a moment. That’s NOT a deplorable location… for the primary purpose of the temperature sensor! Pilots really REALLY need to know the density-altitude of the runway. And the temperature RIGHT AT THE RUNWAY is a key input to that calculation.

    That said, I certainly agree that the “right at the runway” temperature is of questionable value for climate data. From a climate data PoV, that thermometer is in a pretty lousy location — that just happens to be the PERFECT location for its primary use.

  55. Offtopic, but an excellent post-mortem on the economics of ethanol –

    http://energyoutlook.blogspot.com/

    The money quote:
    “…this is an industry that has raised food prices, destroyed billions of dollars in shareholder value, and according to the CBO reduced US greenhouse gas emissions by only about 0.2%, even if we ignore offsetting global land-use changes.”

    Saving the planet for fun and profit…..errr…..

  56. Wow, pretty amazing result. Nearly every day for a week a record was set, and always either 91 or 92 degrees. That is incredibly stable.

  57. Also off topic, there’s a big report out today here in the UK with “predictions” for 2080. Needless to say it’s raising the level of alarmism considerably at the BBC (and the nationals tomorrow no doubt), as if that were possible:

    More BBC alarmism

    Richard Bacon is hosting a phone-in about it on his show on 5-live this evening (11pm). Are there any articulate sceptics among us who will give his show a call I wonder?

  58. British summers could soon be like those in the drought-ridden Mediterranean, and the winters characterized by severe flooding, according to a new report on climate change.

    U.K. Climate Impacts Report predicts extremes of temperature will hit the U.K. if global temperatures continue to rise.

    The report is the Met Office’s most comprehensive assessment yet of what might happen by the middle to end of the century.

    “Certainly we would expect much warmer wetter winters to be part of the story and also a risk of drier summers,” James Murphy, the head of climate predictions at the Met Office, told Sky News Online:

    The Met Office climate experts used their software to run 400 different computer models.

    They wanted to understand the range of future climate changes the U.K. might have to deal with over the next 100 years.

    The Met Office came up with three scenarios – low, medium and high – depending on how much carbon we emit over the next century.

  59. Steven Hill (06:36:44) :

    It’s going beyond what is normal, don’t you think?
    I enjoyed my first 50 years as an American, I don’t think I am going to enjoy the next 20+ years though. If I am blessed enough to live that long. Maybe it will be better if I don’t?

    You need a demotivational poster from http://www.despair.com. I suggest “It’s always darkest just before it’s pitch black.” Buy one for your Congresscritter too, “If you think the problems we create are bad, just wait until you see our solutions.”

  60. Eric Anderson (09:28:32) :

    > Wow, pretty amazing result. Nearly every day for a week a record was set, and always either 91 or 92 degrees. That is incredibly stable.

    Hawaii’s low latitude and island status give it a very limited range of weather. Their coldest month, January, has an average high of 80.1; the warmest month, August, is 88.7. That’s a range of only 8.6 degrees, so that 1-2 (or was it 3?) degree error is something like 1/3 of the annual range, or it would read July temeperatures in May.

    I live near Concord New Hampshire. Our coldest month, January, has an average high of 29.8; the warmest month, July, is 82.4, a difference of 52.6 degrees. The error in Honolulu’s thermometer scaled thusly would be 17 degrees! Like reading July temperatures in May.

    http://www.climate-zone.com/climate/united-states/hawaii/honolulu/

    http://www.climate-zone.com/climate/united-states/new-hampshire/concord/

  61. Anyone remember how fast NWS discounted the record cold registered in Rochelle, Illinois this January due to “calibration” problems?

    The Great Climate Information Ratchet only cranks in one direction.

  62. don’t tarp me bro

    Maybe I’m missing something, but surely taking rectal temperatures would increase the fudge, at least on the thermometer?

  63. Ron de Haan.

    [snip - and previous comments snipped]

    I usually enjoy Ron’s comments but this debate is polarised enough already and the above comment borders on the fanaticism it decries. That said, I am as shocked as all of you at FUBAR’s lack of rigour along with the cooking of the books.

    REPLY: I agree, let’s not incite any further name calling or labeling. The issue is data. – Anthony

  64. Hopefully NOAA are still taking temperature readings with the faulty temperature sensor and comparing them with the newly installed (presumably more accurate) sensor. If there is a clear bias, then all of the data using the faulty sensor should be thrown out. Better to have no data for a period than bad data.

  65. Adolfo Giurfa (11:55:15) :
    John Wright: “..the above comment borders on the fanaticism it decries..”
    Ron was just referring to their favorite inkjet color: the red.

    Yeeeah, Pull the other it’s got bells on…

  66. [snip - that's it, you are done, I've warned you about stupid comments and yet you keep posting them, such as the "reds" comment earlier. We may be on the same side of the argument - but you are no longer welcome to post here, I don't need the liability of your outlandish and off-color comments, you live to pile on. - Anthony]

  67. Uk Met Office say their new UK Climate Projections 2009 can give details of likely climate change in 25km gridded squares. Are they lying or just disingenuous?

  68. While we don’t know how long the volcano will keep blowing I did check the latest SST and wind readings in the Nino regions with TAO’s colorful temperature image, the 30C pool has been getting a bit smaller in the past 2 days and quite a few of the arrows in that same image representing wind have been getting longer, so the warm pool in the west hasn’t been building up very good and lends credence to what some here say El Nino may not form.

    Then some of you say a La Nina may pop up sometime around next winter which if so it could form not long after that major eruption that would cool the Earth even further O.O!

    Luckily if that means an extremely cold Winter we lost two sizable cottonwood limbs from storms recently that means we partially rebuilt our stock of firewood :-)

  69. It is outrageous that a .7 C increase in the earth’s temperature over 100 years is considered very significant but that a 2 degree error in a USHCN thermometer is not significant enough to disregard the historical data obtained from that thermometer. You don’t have to be a conspiracy theorist to believe there is skulduggery afoot here.

  70. NOTE: Folks I know this issue is maddening, but let’s please try to stick the data issues and lose the labeling of people and organizations. – Anthony

  71. Well no wonder they get wrong readings; I don’t see any barbecue out there anyway.

    It’s nice that they have that anemometer up there high enough so it can collect those wing tip vortices from the landing planes; or better yet from the taking off planes.

    George

  72. Do we have any other instances of “failed on the high side” temp sensors other than Honolulu HI and WEAC1?
    Looking back over the record (and please do check it out) for Aug 2007 it seemed to me that the hotter the actual day, the greater the error when compared to nearby stations. That’s what it looked like to me, anyways.
    Honolulu is a place where the daytime max doesn’t change all that much, not like the Sacramento Valley where you can get 20 degree swings in a matter of a few days.

  73. Anthony, there’s no need to throw out these records. The temperatures have no doubt been adjusted by those of Darwin, which have been adjusted by the records of Bombay which are homogenised with those of Cairo which in turn are adjusted by the Miami temps which are checked with reference to the LA numbers which have been verified by asking a Bristlecone Pine in California.

    So that’s all right then.

  74. Britannic no-see-um (03:58:20) :

    Perhaps the Honolulu station is too important as a generator of nice neat virtual grid nodes out in the wide blue Pacific. Do these people measure the CO2 up that volcano as well?

    There are no active volcanoes on that island. Among the Hawaiian Islands, only the ‘Big Island’ has any active volcanoes.

  75. “A warm bias of a degree or two” How very scientific of them. After all, whats a “degree or two” between friends?

    Lets remember, the way Global Average Temperature (whatever that is) is calculated in the GISS and similar algorithms is by way of gridding. That one thermometer in Hawaii could represent a heckuva big chunk of the surface record in the Pacific!

    The once respected scientific establishments of the National Weather Service, NOAA and NASA have become nothing more than a clown show.

    You’d see more attention to detail at a tea party for baboons.

    Farcical…

    Tea anyone?

  76. Only two-three degrees over actual, with the Surface Station Project in mind this could be one of the more accurate stations. :)

    Am I recalling correctly that during the early part of last winter when a low temperature was recorded at an Illinois based station the response from the requisite agency was that the weather station would need to be checked for accuracy before the recording could be recognised as a low temperature record? With the above account it does seem to be one rule for the lows and another for the highs or am I just being cynical…

  77. Thursday, June 18, 2009
    Reasons to Distrust Your Government

    By Alan Caruba

    In the normal course of events, when voters no longer have confidence in the President, their Senators and their Representatives, they vote them out of office, but there are whole agencies of government that continue on no matter who is in office and, since their budgets and existence depend on the politics of whoever holds power, they bend to serve their policies.

    A democracy is most in peril when citizens conclude they can no longer trust their government and there is no better example of that than a recent report, “Global Climate Change Impacts in the United States”, issued by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. It is sheer rubbish.

    It is typical of the deliberate distortions and outright lies that have been put forth to an increasingly doubting public regarding “global warming.” It is part and parcel of the deceptions perpetrated for decades now by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, all of which feature tortured data of dubious quality and, since 1998, have ignored the Earth’s cooling trend.

    The increasing reports from around the nation of “freaky” weather, of snow in June, and other anomalies are, in fact, a reflection of this cooling trend and it is likely to last at least thirty years or more.

    John P. Holdren, Assistant to the President on Science and Technology, and a man who holds some of the most outlandish and baseless views on climate change, said “This new report integrates the most up-to-date scientific findings into a comprehensive picture of ongoing as well as expected future impacts of heat-trapping pollution on the climate experience of Americans, region by region and sector by sector.”

    No it doesn’t. For one thing, the “heat-trapping pollution” to which he obliquely refers is mostly carbon dioxide, a gas vital to all life on Earth and a gas which, in the days when the dinosaurs roamed the Earth, could be found in concentrations five times or more higher than today. If CO2 was the great Earth destroyer that Holden, Gore, and others insist, there should be no Earth at all as we know it today.

    To call CO2 “pollution” is to immediately invalidate the entire report, but to further insist, as the report does, that it is “primarily human-induced” is not just quite wrong, but a great big LIE. Human activity plays virtually no role whatever in the production of CO2.

    This product of the interagency U.S. Global Change Research Program is a 190-page piece of loathsome propaganda that predicts more frequent heat waves, more flooding and waterborne diseases, rising water temperatures, more insect infestations and wildfires, and that old standby, rising sea levels with coastal flooding that will no doubt drown Manhattan and other coastal cities.

    Hollywood does a better job with such fantasy than the minions of Washington, D.C.

    Meteorologist Joe D’Aleo, the first Director of Meteorology at The Weather Channel and former chairman of the American Meteorological Society’s Committee on Weather Analysis and Forecasting, said of the NOAA report “This is not a work of science, but an embarrassing episode for the authors and NOAA.”

    This report and the hours of effort that went into is pure science fiction, predicting outcomes, as all such “global warming” does (now called “climate change”), fifty to a hundred years from now.

    Global warming propagandists always focus on a distant and unknowable far horizon, safe in the knowledge that only a future generation will discover their lies. By then, the horrid “environmental” legislation they wish to impose on America will have destroyed its economy and ruined our lives.

    It is no accident this report has arrived just in time for a debate on the “Cap-and-Trade” legislation that is nothing more than a huge TAX on all energy use and one that will increase the cost of all energy to everyone by thousands of dollars individually. It will drive industries dependent on large quantities of energy to foreign nations. It is a huge job-killer.

    Duke Energy of North Carolina, based on the spurious science of global warming, has asked the regulators of that State for permission to raise electricity prices 12.6 percent. The requested price hike would cost North Carolina ratepayers $496 million. They should change their name to Enron. It’s not being used any more.

    Utilities required to include a mix of solar and wind energy, the least efficient and most impractical producers of energy because of Renewable Energy Mandates will be forced to ask for similar increases. America is the Saudi Arabia of coal. It is the most affordable way of generating energy. More coal-fired and nuclear plants would ensure that rates would remain stable for many decades to come.

    Naturally “Crazy Eyes” Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House, was quick to weigh in on news of the NOAA report. “The impact of the climate crisis on the United states and around the world is becoming increasingly severe.” Nonsense! More lies from the Speaker.

    The climate is always in a state of change and that change is determine primarily by the Sun, as well as other natural factures such as the oceans, volcanic activity, and the greatest meteorological mystery of all, why clouds behave the way clouds do.

    The NOAA report has already been torn to shreds by many of the leading meteorologists and climatologists throughout the nation. It is pure scaremongering and it is intended to further an environmental agenda that is determined to deprive Americans of the energy sources we will need to power our way out of this government-induced Recession and meet the needs of an expanding population.

    It is yet another Obama-driven “crisis” and Americans have good and grave reasons to reject the massive global warming deception, “Cap-and-Trade”, and all those seeking to drive us like lemmings over the cliff of an insolvent, bankrupt nation.

    http://factsnotfantasy.blogspot.com/

  78. From iceagenow.com:
    “593 NEW record low max temps for the month of June –
    and we’re only half way through the month
    17 Jun 09 – Here we sit, with our fearless leaders in Washington DC trying to shove ever more global warming taxes down our throats while low-temperature records are being broken across the country. Where is the outrage?”

    I think it is a legitimate question to ask!

  79. Ok, somebody sneak in and chill down the sensor with some ice. Set a new low record. Then the claim that AWG creates more volatile temperature records can be supported with evidence. [/snark]

  80. Man you guys really need to get a life. The temperature at Honolulu isn’t affecting the climate change debate, those records and the models used to develop climate research are totally unrelated.

    The temperature sensors are managed by the FAA anyway. This isn’t a new problem either, nor one that NWS Honolulu can do anything about. All the sensors that were part of this lineup read hot, they always have. “Wow! Could that be why all this globa….oh wait.

    If you still believe climate change is man-made then go to meteorology school and get an education, then you’ll see that its all a bunch of bunk that weak minded people that operate outside their disciplines or from pseudosciences created. Since people watch too many movies where all kinds of horrible things happen and there is one hero that speaks out from the “evil tyrants” controlling their temperature sensors, everyone thinks its a good idea.

    People are starving on Oahu, maybe solve that problem, then if you get that one and all the other problems fixed, we can fix the temperature sensor.

  81. The XO on my first ship once told his junior officers, “The only thing worse than making a bad decision is changing it.” This comment, from an otherwise excellent officer, left everyone scratching his head trying to figure out what it meant…looks like NOAA has a similar leadership philosophy.

  82. As per Anthony’s earlier request, I sent this e-mail to Hawaii. Got back a bunch of “out-of-the-office” replies.

    Gentlemen and Ms. Fujiwara:

    I have just read on Anthony Watts’ blog WUWT

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/17/noaa-fubar-high-tempclimate-records-from-faulty-sensor-to-remain-in-place-at-honolulu/#more-8608

    that the temperature sensor at Honolulu has been exhibiting a significant warm bias for some time and has now been replaced, but that the records will not be adjusted to compensate for the bias. If this is in fact correctly reported, I find this course of action absolutely intolerable. Measures are even now being seriously proposed to mitigate the problem of “global warming” , measures that will cost trillions and result in significant reductions in standards of living and personal liberty. Your data is part of the scientific evidence for this global warming problem and the erroneously reported “record temperatures” in Honolulu are being widely reported in the popular media as further evidence of the urgency in solving this problem. Failure to correct this data is dishonest and brings into disrepute both your organization and yourselves, not to mention the reputation and prestige of science in general.

    If you care to make a clarification on this matter, I will be happy to consider it and I am sure Anthony would be happy to entertain your comment on his blog. If the clarification should simply be restatement of the “a degree or two doesn’t matter” variety, then be forewarned that it will not be acceptable. Accuracy of measurement is important in both science and the battle of public relations.

    I look forward to your response.

    Sincerely,

    All that being said, it is worth pointing out that we have been relying on a variety of articles and have not heard what NWS Honolulu has to say for themselves. The decision on the records may not have been theirs to make. They may be defering the decision. They may be running side-by-side measurements. We don’t know. As reported, the issue certainly looks bad, but on this site, Anthony’s site, let’s gather the facts before rushing to talk about dark, smelly conspiracies. Conspiracy, somewhere, there may be, but evidence, proof, documentation…. I need good, solid evidence before going to man the barricades….

  83. Since this is about NOAA temperatures and they just came out with their report about USA warming. Lets look at the USA 48 temperatures. Since Anthony has done all the work and we can pretty much say that the NOAA temperature data for the USA is dubious, lets use the UAH and RSS satellite temperatures for the USA 48.

    Bob Tisdale has pretty much convinced me that the 1998 El Nino had an anomalous effect on temperatures, so what I do is look at the RSS and UAH charts for the period Jan 1979 – Oct 1997 and Nov 1998 – Present for RSS and UAH. Basically cutting out the bump caused by the El Nino. (The effect has still not worn off according to Bob, but I’ll ignore that)

    The results are for the USA 48:

    RSS 1.68 Deg C per Century 1979 – 1997 (linear trend)
    -4.2 Deg C per Century 1998 to Present (linear trend)

    UAH 2.54 Deg C per Century 1979 to 1997 (linear trend)
    -3.24 Deg C per Century 1998 to Present (linear trend)

    Seems to me the USA 48 could use all the CO2 it can get!! NOAA better make darn sure it’s temperature data is better that the satellite data.

  84. OT but maybe worth a millisecond of attention.

    I posted this comment about PETA’s response to POTUS swatting of a fly on

    http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/06/18/update-peta-explains-criticism-over-obama-fly-swat/comment-page-1/#comment-324698

    When I was 14, I asked my father. “Dad, can I join PETA? He went silent and then answered. “Son, you’re too young to join PETA”.
    When I was 15, I asked him the same question. He answered thus. “Son, you’re too old to join PETA”. Thanks Dad, you were right

    It’s in moderation as I scribble. Place your bets Ladies and Gents – pass or fail?

  85. My PC is playing up just now. I tried to post this earlier but the tea-leaves said that it didn’t get through. Here goes.
    Got to admit, however much you may deplore the ‘delusionalists’ for their repudiation of the scientific method, you have to praise them for their loyalty.

    Not for them a curt dismissal into forced retirement and un-thanked obscurity, for an elderly and once-respected sensor-servant brought low by the wearage and tearage of life into disrespected and premature senility.
    When you have right on your side, inconvenient facts are but, insignificant, vermin fully deserving of being ridden down.

    I salute your chivalry, Viscount NOAA and wish you well for the remainder of your Crusade. Droit de seigneur – Alive and Kicking once more!

  86. Anthony, may I ask you something? Have you been in the weather business for >= three decades? If so, does that make you both a weatherologist and a climatologist?
    Just wondering!

    REPLY: Why would I want either title? – A

  87. 3 degree hotter temperature sensors readings due to component failure are to be averaged into the system, irregardless of the known failure.
    And I personally witnessed a more serious error.
    How many more are there escaping notice?
    The issue and the question are valid.
    There are aspects and side issues too, but our Forum host has requested rightly that we stick to the business at hand.
    How many +1 degree and +2 degree errors are out there polluting the record as we talk?
    Errors that are never to be removed??

  88. Anthony:
    Is the ASOS temp sensor failure (my judgment, not NOAAs) a relatively slow process, or a sudden jump (up, obviously)? Slow upward drift of these neat little sensors could explain a lot of things.

  89. ‘Peter Plail (05:37:28) :
    The Beeb also has a wonderful
    grahic explaining how global warming works. See if you can spot what’s missing .

    p ?

    .
    I just finished the “Global Climate Change Impacts in the United States” pdf. Depressing. I cut and pasted it into WordPerfect so I could highlight the distortions/misrepresentations/liesmisstatements/omissions/etc., but I ran out of highlighter. Found a few typos, too.

    I did like the photo of weeds growing better with increased CO2. Didn’t mention the huge increase in crop productivity we have already seen. Didn’t mention a lot of stuff, come to think of it. Pointed out that if the whole Antarctic melted it would raise the sea level a bunch. Didn’t mention that if we were hit by an asteroid we’d be in even worse shape; both equally likely.

    Arrrgh.

  90. Maybe we should organize a protest rally to shut down the weather station. It surely warrants the widest possible publicity. Even the radio station got the joke!

  91. Mike (16:09:39) Let me apologize if I have misinterpreted your post. There are people starving on Oahu. There are people starving on the continental U.S. These are issues that are more important than Global Warming. My question to you is; How many more people are going to suffer if cap-trade is implemented? Cap-trade is based on Co2 being a “pollutant”. The claim is that Co2 will increase earth’s temperature. This idea will cripple an already weak economy. How many people are going to starve then? All based on an idea that you agree is false. What if the earth cools and crops fail when we have not prepared for this because we were preparing for catastrophic warming? Perhaps you can see the importance of breaking down this false premise. Water is also an extremely important issue that needs to be looked at as well. In a resourceful country like the U.S., you have the ability to address all these issue at the same time. The powers that be seem to want to focus on Global Warming only. They have made it the priority, not WUWT.

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