The Gore-a-thon on WUWT

Scientist Milen
PDaddy is that rapper isn’t he?!?!
You fail to mention that there are significantly more of those molecule thingys bumping into each other in Venus’ atmosphere. Also the temperature on Venus is nearly the same on the dark and lighted side…just like Earth right? Last I checked temperature on the Blue Marble goes down when the Sun sets. And Venus’ oceans are just like Earth’s…oh wait…no oceans. So other than relative size, I see no comparison to Earth. I’m the same relative size as a jelly fish (and some would say of the same intellect). Does that sound like a fair comparison?

These comics are just fantastic and just what we need: to laugh at some real non-sense.
I wish I knew why the alarmists never point out that when CO2 levels were 5 to 20 times higher than today the earth was covered with lush vegetation from pole-to-pole. It doesn’t get much greener than that. What we have right now is a CO2 deficit.

To Milen from Sam.
You can’t concieve of how bad your models fail to account for reality. Your CO2 cross-sections are all wrong. Atmospheric modeling fails to account for the fact that, although the sun is a black body radiator, the emission spectrum of the various constituents of the atmosphere do not re-emit energy as a black body source. In addition, the models fail to account for biological sequestration which naturally occurs in atmospheres with increased CO2. Also, failure to account for solar maxima and minima in your models is a fatal flaw. If you look at a graph of solar maxima and solar minima against CO2 concentrations and temperatures, you will see that the solar maxima and minima tail the CO2 and temperature increases. In other words, the effect of the solar seasons creates temperature variations orders of magnitude greater than any ‘human’ caused CO2 contribution. Your soft science should be thrown out for not being based on REAL science.
– A physicist.

Milen:
Sunspots are NOT the equivalent of the radiant flux of the sun on earth, and they are particularly meaningless if they are not directly facing earth. That is the problem with you “soft science” followers. You don’t look at the hard numbers, don’t care about the details, don’t actually do any analysis – you effectively cherry pick data to fit your hypothesis. You have to ‘read up’ on the new advances in modeling, because you don’t even understand the assumptions that go into the model.
Case and point: the temperature part of that chart is based on the fake University of East Anglia numbers, which were discredited by a whistleblower. Click the link, it takes you right to their site. Effectively, your chart compares false temperature data to meaningless sunspot data.
As opposed to ‘soft science’ models, where you plug in 1000 assumptions and manipulate the variables to get the ‘model’ you want, hard science asks the question, how do we analyze data that we have obtained to determine whether there are any correlations and to determine whether the data disproves a hypothesis. The very fact that there are ‘new models’ to predict the future in your soft science betrays the fact that there is not a solid theoretical basis for your conclusions. The equivalent in hard science would be to ‘predict’ the orbit of the moon based on a new ‘model’ of gravity. Effectively, you are telling us that the moon is going to fly away. Except, every ‘new model’ you come up with gives a slightly different answer. Try again.
There used to be a nice (real) graph on wikipedia that showed CO2, temperature and solar flux, all appropriately fit to size on the same graph, but the global warming advocates took it down (it even had the treasured Vostok ice data on it). The only problem – if you took a straight edge on the graph and looked at what preceded what on the chart, it was clear that solar flux increases always preceded temperature increase, which slightly preceded CO2 increase. When I find the graph again, I’ll post it.
Sam

For Josh and interested onlookers, My ‘Algorpoem’:
Pinwheels and Mirrors
A long time ago, in the 80’s or so,
Al Gore warned that warming would soon be alarming;
“Our children won’t know what it’s like to see snow!
If our atmosphere we don’t quit harming.”
He’d studied in college and loved Hansen’s knowledge
Then over the years, through successful careers
He pondered the notion; the air and the ocean
Are useful to raise public fears.
He made presentations to all the world’s nations.
His film (sci-fi trash) was a box office smash!
Folks bought with elation, renewable sensations.
This raised a good bundle of cash.
So grew the meme of anthropogenic extreme.
While insiders profited highly,
Those who objected were openly subjected
To ridicule and treated quite vilely.
Now pinwheels and mirrors litter the lands…
Power lines, mile after mile.
On high plains, mesas and desert sands
Our vistas, they now beguile.
The folks getting subsidies, making a profit
Thought them a beautiful sight,
These mechanical statues… awaiting a breeze
Or a sunbeam to make things right.
Now, in the next years, comes the worst of his fears;
As cycles, in tandem, start waning.
Winters ceasing to warm have cancelled alarm,
But Al never ceases campaigning:
“We humans are bad with our fossil fuel fad,
It’s building a carbon disaster!
And now it’s two-fold! It’s causing the cold
And the hotness to come so much faster!”
Hope he’s thought out, while jetting about,
The messages of his actions
By far outweigh the words he might say
To all of the wiser factions.