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By Paul Homewood
MPs are up in arms over Miliband’s refusal to publish details of a net zero cooperation deal signed with China.
The Telegraph reports:
Ed Miliband has refused to publish details of a net zero cooperation deal signed with China.
The Energy Secretary flew to China in March for high-level meetings with ministers and businesses, as well as tours of local facilities.
While there, he pledged closer cooperation with China on green energy.
But five months later, the Government has still not revealed the text of the memorandum he signed – despite having published similar such deals with countries including Canada, Norway, South Korea, Ireland and Chile.
The lack of disclosure comes as concerns are growing over Chinese involvement in major wind farm schemes, after Ministry of Defence officials warned that they could be used for spying.
However, Chinese media reports claimed that Mr Miliband had agreed to work with Beijing on “power grids, battery storage, offshore wind power, and carbon capture, utilisation and storage, as well as clean, low-carbon and renewable hydrogen”.
‘Deeply concerning’
On Friday, the Conservatives called on the Energy Secretary to disclose the agreement in full.
Claire Coutinho, the shadow energy secretary, said: “Intelligence services have warned us about Chinese state-sponsored hackers infiltrating Western energy systems, so it is deeply concerning that Ed Miliband is refusing to publish the full text of his deal with China.
“Miliband must come clean about exactly what he signed up to, and Ofgem should be transparent about what knowledge they shared with Chinese officials.
Full story here.
I suspect the real reason is much more mundane – publishing would reveal just how one-sided the deal is.
It will inevitably lead to more imports from China of solar panels, wind turbines and all the other stuff needed for Net Zero, giving a lie to promises of green jobs here.
There will also be swapping of technology, which will benefit China much more than it does us.
Above there be no pledge from China to cut emissions.
China, in other words, have had Ed Miliband dangling on the end of a string.
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The “Deal” is likely one which causes Britain to purchase, at a premium price, Chintzy Solar Panels and questionable quality Wind Turbines from China with the guarantee that Chinese Construction Firms do the Installations and paid for with British Coal reserves while China gets to redouble their Coal Fleet and burn British Coal in the process.
Exactly how? Power companies are independent and as such can’t be forced by the government to purchase solar panels or wind turbines. Similarly the UK government doesn’t own the coal and unless the government plans to nationalise the entire UK power industry this just isn’t going to happen.
But the Government can pay huge amounts of subsidies to installers, and allow unpaid resumption of land etc etc…
.. to make sure junk China intermittent wind and solar are the only thing able to be installed.
Well, no, despite those who would love such control. But that’s your fantasy. Bryan suggests that:
Such trivial things, words, aren’t they?
Power companies are independent??? Government taxes their inputs, taxes their outputs, taxes their employees, taxes the pay before it even gets to the employees, taxes their profits, taxes their capital gains, and taxes their dividends. Some power companies get some subsidies. You think this adds up to a free market for independent players?
“Power companies are independent and as such can’t be forced by the government to purchase”
People in USA used to think their elected government could not legally require private citizens to buy things. That turned out not to be true. Since the punishment for noncompliance is still financial, the US supreme court ruled it was a form of taxation.
Voters retaliated by reelecting the officials who ratified the requirement.
Easy, the government requires that only wind and solar may be used to generate power, then they ensure that the only wind and solar sources available are their friends in China.
All it would uptake is an exemption on CBAM levies for Chinese supply, and the market would do the rest. It’s already much cheaper anyway. Most of the suppliers for Inch Cape (the most recent wind farm FID) are Chinese.
It is more likely a supply, install and operate contract for electrical assets where China gets a guaranteed return for the next 50 years. It helps China’s plan to grow wealthy while growing old.
‘It helps China’s plan to grow wealthy while growing old.’
Here in the West, the Left’s solution for the bad demographics created by their policies, is to import vast hordes of the most unskilled and least likely to assimilate aliens they can induce to illegally cross their borders.
Milliband’s cohort is going to do very well in the deal; you can take that to the bank, as they will too..
It is truly amazing that any western country could be stupid enough to bind themselves to a climate deal with China. You really have to be living in a self imposed bubble of ignorance to not notice that its windmills for us, built by them, but coal for them, with which to build windmills and the rest of their economy. They know what works.
But to sign a SECRET deal. A deal on behalf of the citizens of Britain that the citizens of Britain are not allowed to know about. That’s insane. If you’d have told me this was going to happen 10 years ago I would have said you’re insane.
Remember that this is Ed Miliband that is doing this. He is an utter imbecile who thinks that he is the smartest guy in the room. He doesn’t realise that the Chinese know that he is a fool and have taken him for a ride. We are doomed.
“But to sign a SECRET deal. A deal on behalf of the citizens of Britain that the citizens of Britain are not allowed to know about. That’s insane.“
But not unusual, look what happened with COVID … politicians & those close to government plus families & friends made fortunes from ‘commercially sensitive’ deals for substandard equipment & a few ‘deals’ where nothing was supplied, but nobody was prosecuted as they hide behind ‘data protection’.
My local Welsh NHS Betsi Cadwaladr University Hospital Board had made £9.4 million worth of deliberate incorrect entries into its accounts in 2021/22, covered up until this year.
So what are they doing about it ???
Trying to find & prosecute the whistle-blower for leaking ‘sensitive data’ to … Audit Wales and NHS Counter Fraud. !!!
No surprises there then.
Wasn’t there something about an evil Trump feller and his tariffs recently?
Thousands of Aussie jobs in danger from China spending splurge
Report is from the following place…
“The McKell Institute is a progressive research institute…. blah…”
Any institute that actually calls itself “progressive”, is likely to be to the far left of Mao Zedong, Joseph Stalin, and Kim Il Sung !!!
ie.. Milibrain is going to buy more slave produced, highly pollution wind turbines and solar panels from China.
What a molecule mind.
Molecule might suggest he has multiple brain cells. Atom may be more appropriate.
Temulliband.
Miliband surely can’t be stupid – after all, he graduated from Oxford University (albeit with a degree that equips him to do precisely nothing in the real world). And that surely must mean . . . the man is an inveterate liar.
He repeatedly attempts to thrust down our throats that the UK must become energy independent, producing clean energy from wind and solar generation over which we will have complete control. In particular, he insists that our dependence upon fossil fuel deliveries from nasty countries led by despicable despots must be eliminated, him repeatedly implying that we are totally at the mercy of these horrible people.
And you know what? – I’m bloody sick of his total and utter bullsh#t.
The facts are:
In 2024, the UK’s oil consumption was 61 million tonnes (Mt). Of that, 31 Mt was produced domestically, with 70% (21Mt) of imports coming from the US and Norway . . . who are allies, I believe. Which means 9Mt, came from “nasty despotic” countries, which is 15% of our total consumption.
And looking at gas:
The UK produces 35% of its total gas consumption, with 61% being imported from the US and Norway . . . who are allies, I believe. And that leaves . . . 4% of our gas demand being provided by those horrible nasty despotic people.
Meanwhile . . .
China produces over 70% of the world’s wind turbines and solar panels. And it produces over 85% of the world’s battery cells and over 80% of the world’s polysilicon.
It also has effective control of the world’s refined production of the metals and minerals required to construct all so-called renewable equipment, as follows (percentages of world production) – graphite: 99%; manganese: 95%; rare earths: 90%; cobalt: 70%; antimony: 70%; lithium: 60%; aluminium: 60%; copper: 40%; and nickel: 40%.
And then we mustn’t forget that all of the above is produced by China’s coal-fired generation, now standing at a capacity of 1,150GW (our total capacity from all types of generation is 100GW). And we should be aware that China’s domestic production of coal increased from 4.6 billion tonnes (Bt) in 2023 to 4.8Bt in 2024, while its imports of coal in 2023 of 475Mt were increased to 543Mt in 2024.
So, what Miliband is insisting upon is we must eliminate the use of ALL fossil fuels – to make sure we are no longer dependent on 15% of our oil supply and 4% of our gas supply coming from those nasty horrible despotic people – and that all this will be replaced by wonderful independent homegrown clean wind and solar generation . . . which means our energy needs will effectively become totally dependent upon China . . . who are definitely NOT an ally, notwithstanding the danger that nation poses to the entire world.
All this MUST surely mean, either Miliband is an inveterate bloody liar, or . . . he really is bloody stupid.
Miliband takes after his father…
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The post to which this letter replies has come to our attention. In our view it falls within the scope of the Online Safety Act 2023 as being unsafe to read for anyone under 18.
It also promotes antagonism and has a threatening tone, and so falls within the category of Hate Speech as defined by that Act. It is particularly threatening in tone towards a senior Government official who it accuses of mental incompetence or dupliclty.
And finally it casts doubt on, and tends to impair, the Government’s important work with our Chinese associates to move to clean affordable and secure energy, and save the planet from the looming threat of Climate Change.
We shall shortly be in touch with the various Internet bodies who have participated in the display of this post, and will require them to restrict access to it to those who have given proof of being adult (18+) at the time of access.
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Thank **** for Toby Young
The National Internet Intelligence Investigations Unit probably holds a list of his subscribers. As Laing remarked, if you can’t talk about it, you can’t talk about the fact that you can’t talk about it.
To think that the country of John Stuart Mill and the inventor of Parliamentary Democracy has descended into this! Where the governing Labour Party wants to give votes to 16 year olds, but where one speech by an MP about grooming gangs was recently barred to anyone under 18.
I wonder how long VPNs will be legal in the UK.
Back to pen, paper, dead drops etc
I wonder how long VPNs will be legal in the UK.
They’re already telling people not to use them. “For the children”
Not a huge fan of Young myself, ever since he threw Mark Steyn under the bus:
https://www.steynonline.com/mark-steyn-show-audio/13281/these-boots-are-made-for-warring
It’s one thing being able to recite whatever you’ve read in a textbook, it’s quite another to actually understand it.
Can I vote for “Both of the above”?
Most colleges reward blind adherence to whatever dogma the professor is pushing. Actually thinking for yourself is punished.
“either Miliband is an inveterate bloody liar, or . . . he really is bloody stupid.”
He multitasks … does both simultaneously.
China saw a useful idiot coming, took full advantage, and are now laughing all the way to the bank.
But at least now we know what the zero in net zero stands for. Brains.
Come on Ed out with it-
Global carbon emissions continue to accelerate despite renewable transition | Watch
The Commies are playing you or you’re in bed with them.
I’ve believed the latter explanation for some time. Got my suspicions about Starmer, too.
The reason that “carbon emissions’ (sic) continue to rise is that we aren’t transitioning enough, fast enough.
(Is a /sarc necessary?)
My condolences to all the Brits here on the passing of the historical UK. I thought our establishment academia and media were as bad as it could get. I clearly underestimated the toxicity of Starmer and company. Sure glad we have the 2nd Amendment.
Chinese interests own Australia’s power grid. Surely they deserve at least a share of the UK’s grid.
Sounds like a Belt and Road deal that China has going with the third world countries that do not have their own industry. Victoria (Australia) was in the process of setting up a deal when the Federal LNP government ruled it out. But now Federal Labour has the whole country signed on to China’s Belt and Road.
My bet is that the AUKUS deal is in deep poo because Trump does not want to be giving military technology to the Chinese ands he knows that will happen if Australia gets it.
Is the “net zero cooperation deal signed with China” considered a treaty in the UK? If so, doesn’t it have to be approved by Parliament?
Seems the climate changers want a more orderly transition with their Chinese coal fired fickles and incendiaries-
Experts urge rethink on renewable energy and its hidden environmental impact
PS: Speaking of incendiaries you’ll get the latest here but don’t miss the absolute madness of the climate cult at the 8:20 minute mark-
Experts urge rethink on renewable energy and its hidden environmental impact
What could possibly go wrong?
How much of the secret deal will be made in the secret detention camps in western China? You know, those secret camps with the high fences and guard towers that the UN staffers have gone to great links not to inspect and report on.
It is hard to imagine that Minister Miliband has any valuable future part to play in the time-honoured and long-respected British government, the nucleus for exceptional progress by many other countries in the last 300 years of global history. The Brits designed and executed the best system in that time, but the Miliband framework seems to have no design to advance and continue purposeful policies towards better national wellbeing.
We in Australia have a rather similar problem with our Minister Bowen in a similar role to Minister Miliband. Australia, since significant recorded history commenced about year 1788, followed Britain’s evolving moves of governance to its enormous benefit.
I was born in 1941, so I have seen the best times of the last 80 years. In the 1960-80 era, Australians enjoyed the best standard of living on the globe by almost any guidelines. We also had the cheapest and most reliable electricity supplied from coal. Increasing wealth spread to all Australians from excellent newly discovered mineral deposits, in which I am proud to have played a modest part. The taste of champagne was sweet back then.
The policies of the Milibands and Bowens of the era after 2000 fail to continue the demonstrated, easy record for success to continue towards the best global standards of living, which are very much more important than the best global standards of paths to the near-elimination of hydrocarbon fuels.
In a make-believe scenario, I would be quite confident that I could describe and institute national policies to put us back on these paths to excellence. Discounting extraordinary opposition and perverse voting patterns, I believe I could break the back of the current problems in under 6 months from a standing start. It really is a simple task. The biggest hurdles are public apathy, ignorance, laziness, poor education, poor knowledge of our past and widespread personal greed to prosper through dishonesty. A high personal standard of ethics and morals is not hard to achieve.
Geoff S
Without details of the deal, there can be no accountability.
In a press release in April 2025 entitled ‘New collaborations to ensure cybersecurity of wind turbines’
Wind Europe wrote
“Physical and cyber attacks on European critical energy are a reality”
“Wind turbines are packed with electronics and sensors which gather a wealth of operational data. This makes wind turbines potential targets for cyber attacks. To ensure energy system reliance it is critical governments apply cybersecurity and data protection as pre-qualification in wind energy auctions and public procurement strategies”
We know from events earlier this year regarding Chinese solar panels delivered to the US that kill switches and other technology were found in the panels. Wind turbines are infinitely more complex and who knows what the Chinese might have put in them?
Mad Ed has to be forced to publish the details of the deal with China. I am sure the UK defence and intelligence services will be unhappy about his stance.
Mini Brain is a Public SERVANT. He MUST tell us what good he thinks Net Zero does. He must answer this publicly for everybody to hear. He will have to admit that “De-carbonisation” what ever that means does no good at all and costs a fortune. Carbon dioxide is a good gas and essential to life. It does no harm at all. For information, by far and away the most prolific green house gases are clouds and water vapour. Let the government try to tackle them if they want.
You guys need to boot him out of office.