Forbes’ False Alarm: NASA Claims on Worsening Weather Debunked by Data

Forbes posted an article, titled “What You Need To Know About Climate Change In 2025,” which claimed that global warming is causing an increase in severe weather conditions around the world, citing NASA as the source. This is false. Data do not show that severe weather is becoming worse or more common, computer models are just predicting that they may.

After a pretty mild introduction explaining that there is a need for a “new American narrative for talking about climate change,” Forbes makes this set of claims:

“Global warming has consequences for weather. According to NASA, global warming “is impacting extreme weather across the planet. Record-breaking heat waves on land and in the ocean, drenching rains, severe floods, years-long droughts, extreme wildfires, and widespread flooding during hurricanes are all becoming more frequent and more intense.” If global warming continues, these effects will be even more severe, such as rising sea levels which could put many U.S. cities underwater by 2050. The year 2050 is often cited by those who study climate change, trying to anticipate its effects and how to mitigate and adapt to global warming. The general scientific consensus is that in order to avoid the most serious consequences of global warming, the temperature rise should be kept to around 2°C or 3.6°F by 2050.”

Climate change by definition has effects on the weather; climate is a statistical construct based on weather patterns over a certain period of time, usually 30 years, but the NASA declaration that Fobes cites is not supported by data that even NASA themselves collect and make public.

This paragraph mentions six extreme weather-related threats, and sea level rise.

While 2023 and 2024 were hot, largely due to the effect of a natural El Niño in the Pacific, there is quite a bit of uncertainty as to whether or not the number and severity of heatwaves are actually increasing.

From a birds’ eye view, looking at the number of 95+ degree days in the United States, most of the country is actually seeing a decline in those very hot days, not an increase. This dataset from the National Climate Assessment indicates that much of the change in average temperatures are driven by a decline in “very cold” days, and warmer nighttime temperatures. (See figure below)

Figure 1: Graphic from Fifth National Climate Assessment report, chapter 2: https://nca2023.globalchange.gov/chapter/2/#fig-2-7

The warming nighttime temperatures are particularly interesting, because this suggests that the urban heat island effect is a factor influencing the temperature readings recorded at surface stations, as described in this Climate Realism guest post.

Regarding rains and flooding, this is again too vague and broad a claim to really drill down on, as increases in flooding could mean something different from one place to another, like an increase in urbanization and problems with local water handling. It is true that the northern hemisphere, especially the mid-latitudes, appear to be seeing higher average precipitation. However, as discussed in this Climate Realism post, the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) does not link rising precipitation to flooding, saying that no connection has emerged from the data. Also, the IPCC doesn’t forecast any flooding signal will emerge in either 2050 or 2100 under even the most extreme climate modelling scenario.

Paradoxically, Forbes also cites NASA to assert that years-long droughts are becoming more frequent and intense, but data specifically refutes this claim. There have been several different regions over the last few years that the media claims have suffered unprecedented droughts, but each time, historical data proves these claims false, showing that more severe and longer lasting droughts have occurred well before modern warming. For example, here are a few different locations Climate Realism discussed: here for the Amazon, here for the American west, and here for the horn of Africa.

Finally we get to wildfires, which is a particularly perplexing claim coming from NASA, considering their own datasets on global wildfires show a decline in global burned area since the early 2000s, as discussed in Climate Realism here. The decline in global wildfires has been recorded and reported by the European Space Agency, as well. (See the graph, below)

Figure 2. Historical and Satellite data on wildfire acreage burned. Blue curve, global wildfire area burned reconstruction. Orange curve, global wildfire area burned measured by satellites. Graph plotted by Bjorn Lomborg, Ph.D.

Concerning hurricane induced flooding, since data clearly show no increase in the number or severity of hurricanes or tropical storms amid the modest warming of the past century, it is simply a misleading to claim changes in hurricanes are resulting in more flooding. Attempts to determine whether or not recent storms have persisted longer over land than in the past are fraught with uncertainty and unanswered questions, as noted by a variety of expert scientists in the field.

Floods are exacerbated by human habitation and landscape alterations, yes, primarily as a result of infrastructure and land use changes. Poor water management, displaced wetlands, increased subsurface water withdrawal, and increasing amounts of impervious surfaces result in flooding from rainfall amounts that in the past would not have resulted in flooding. Attribution to climate change is unwarranted, with such claims often relying entirely upon climate modelling based on many questionable built-in assumptions, rather than real world data and trends. On the question of flooding, once again the IPCC finds no changes in pluvial (surface water) flooding related to precipitation.

Climate Realism has covered the complex issues concerning rising sea levels on multiple occasions, herehere, and here, as a few samples. Seas are rising, but not at historically unusual rates. Any increase in coastal flooding is, once again, due to land compaction and subsidence, ground water withdrawal, and increased development being put in harms way.

Late in the Forbes article, its author admits that the climate issue is “an extremely complex one and it has become highly politicized in the U.S.,” and that there is “substantial variance in opinion about how serious of a problem it is now and will be in the future, what and how much should be done about it, who is responsible for dealing with it, and what costs should be incurred and by whom to address it.” Gone is the certainty portrayed earlier in the article, and rightly so. That there is an active debate concerning the causes and consequences of climate change is true and the author is right that each person will have to decide for themselves how seriously to take the threat and what the appropriate response might be.

All in all, the Forbes piece is pretty vague and innocuous outside of the false confidence projected of increasing severe weather based on some claims made by NASA that the author cites as authoritative. The conditions that they say are getting more frequent and severe are not in fact doing so, at least if one believes the available historical and modern data. While Forbes’ writers and editors may feel unqualified to disagree with claims the cite from NASA, they should at least have the journalistic integrity to ask the right questions and check the available data for themselves.

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KevinM
May 31, 2025 6:04 pm

“rising sea levels which could put many U.S. cities underwater by 2050.” Going to click link and see if it says which ones…

KevinM
Reply to  KevinM
May 31, 2025 6:08 pm

Okay, the link picked almost all coastal cities starting with: “Rising sea levels on the Pacific Northwest coast are likely to significantly affect major cities such as Everett, Seattle, and Tacoma in Washington and possibly Portland, Oregon.”

(Edit: Google lists Portland Oregon as elevation 161 feet. The article seems to imply 161ft/25 years = 6.4 feet per year. Ummm)

Though “put many U.S. cities underwater” is a bit more aggressive than “significantly affect major cities”.

John Hultquist
Reply to  KevinM
May 31, 2025 7:00 pm

Seattle’s famous Public Market on Pike Place is 110 feet. Alaska Way, the street along the waterfront, is 16 feet. Beach Drive SW is ~18 feet.
The sea level rise that concerns this area will occur when the Cascadia Subduction Zone releases and a 9.0+ earthquake bounces the coast up and down by 10 feet. 

ResourceGuy
Reply to  John Hultquist
June 1, 2025 4:40 pm

Except Washington academics will claim a climate emergency connection as a leverage point for Olympia Dems to pile on with extra stimulus claims, Jerry Brown style.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  KevinM
May 31, 2025 7:47 pm

I live on Whidbey Island, WA. The island has many very low-lying area. Whidbey Naval Air Station is at very low elevation. If there had been any significant sea level rise in the area, Whidbey would be 3 islands.

Scissor
Reply to  KevinM
May 31, 2025 6:23 pm

Where I’m at in Colorado, it was much warmer in the 1930s and first half of the 1950s.

As far as sea level rise is concerned, it’ll take almost a million years to get here at its present rate. I live near where there was an inland sea when dinosaurs roamed about.

Reply to  KevinM
June 1, 2025 12:08 am

According to NASA, the East Coast is sinking 2 mm per annum.

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May 31, 2025 6:13 pm

There is nothing about the CO2 molecule that could possibly cause major climate change.
https://app.screencast.com/YqI3ycZtgujCS

The biggest problem is CO2 backradiation won’t warm water.
https://app.screencast.com/hQSOZQaptm6XY

If 15 micron won’t warm water, it can’t and won’t cause the effects they claim

Tom Halla
May 31, 2025 6:18 pm

And the parts of NASA associated with climate change wonder why their budgets are getting cut?

Denis
Reply to  Tom Halla
June 1, 2025 6:10 am

One wonders why the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) in involved in climate at all. Why don’t they stay with aeronautics and space, get their space rockets working which they haven’t lately, and leave climate to the National Ocean and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)? At least that should decrease NASA’s money burn pile a bit.

KevinM
Reply to  Denis
June 1, 2025 8:58 am

Not much up there to visit – if my GPS watch works then no need to go. The moon and stars are just sky decorations.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Tom Halla
June 1, 2025 4:44 pm

It is vital that the climate con offices in many agencies are totally uprooted or they will bud out again and get supercharged with the next stimulus excuse industrial complex of Dem spending in the name of ‘budget responsibility’.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  ResourceGuy
June 2, 2025 11:01 am

While I agree and I understood what you said, I had a laugh as I compared it to a Harris word salad. 🙂

May 31, 2025 6:24 pm

A lot of data questions to A.I. have the same answers …AI lies!

NotChickenLittle
May 31, 2025 6:34 pm

It’s lies all the way down. Lies work, at least for those of the leftist inclination. They aren’t going to stop lying anytime soon, I wot…

John Hultquist
May 31, 2025 6:47 pm

Forbes just sent an email offer for a subscription, only $49.99. 🤣

May 31, 2025 7:52 pm

“Climate change by definition has effects on the weather; climate is a statistical construct based on weather patterns over a certain period of time, usually 30 years.”

Isn’t there a logical inconsistency in the above statement from the article?

If climate is a ‘statistical construct’ based on weather patterns, then that statistical construct can have no effect on the weather.

It is changes in weather patterns that affects the climate, or has effects on the climate.

I guess I’ll be accused of nitpicking here. However, precision of expression is important when discussing scientific issues.

Reply to  Vincent
May 31, 2025 9:51 pm

No, you are not nit-picking. This is a standard argument used in the Climate Change scare, and it is a totally circular argument. How come the General Public doesn’t catch on to it?

Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
June 1, 2025 10:47 am

What makes you think they haven’t?

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Nansar07
June 2, 2025 11:02 am

The torches and pitchforks have not taken out any Dems in Congress, CA, IPCC, anywhere.

KevinM
Reply to  Vincent
June 1, 2025 9:01 am

Thanks Vincent for recognizing that words have meanings if their intent is to communicate ideas. It is a shame the writer of the original article missed that one.

Mr.
Reply to  Vincent
June 1, 2025 9:55 am

Yes, and forecasting of weather behaviors beyond ~ 4 days is about as accurate as forecasting wind turbines’ output for the next 4 days.

Or vice versa.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Mr.
June 2, 2025 11:03 am

It’s about ass accurate ass forecasting wind output after a plate of beans.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Vincent
June 2, 2025 11:02 am

+10

May 31, 2025 9:11 pm

Is this the same Forbes that printed an article noting that hurricanes, droughts, floods and wildfires (which it dubbed the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse) are unchanged on a global basis?

Why yes it is. Is this atonement for stepping out of line?

I once had subscriptions to Forbes, The Economist, Scientific American… they’ve all lost their ability to be objective. Now I only know what they are banging on about when someone writes a rebuttal.

Reply to  davidmhoffer
June 1, 2025 2:49 am

I used to read the Economist from time to time because i come from a left leaning working class background with an interest in critical thinking. So i wanted to find out how the ‘other side’ was thinking.Although i sometimes or often did not agree with the articles’ conclusion i thought they were on average very well written. My admiration has turned into repulsion by the blatant propagandist stance the publication took over the last 7-10 years in which their ‘analyses’ were simply forced narratives instead of their usual bird’s eye view.
Something or someone moved it into that direction. Sad..

KevinM
Reply to  ballynally
June 1, 2025 9:14 am

I could write similarly. I remember the exact moment when I recognized Economist had finalized its move. It was a long article in the middle of one issue that made way too much effort singing praise for John Kerry while trashing George Bush. I was not a big GWB fan but JK’s unhidden disdain for others had rubbed me the wrong way for a long time before he ran for president. It also fell back on the “GWB is a big dummy” theme used too lazily against him by writers.
(where did that attitude go during the JB years?)

May 31, 2025 9:48 pm

Since climate is a long-term average of weather conditions, climate cannot affect the weather – weather defines climate.

Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
June 1, 2025 2:58 am

‘Climate’ is whatever someone says it is. It is a flexible concept. That is why there were never ‘climate scientists’ until recently. Climate was always seen as long, really long periods of time (10.000 to millions of years) in which the differences ( in whatever one looked at, say temperature) were clearly stark and thus could be differentiated.
I dont care what the official definition is. All i know is that is being abused and weaponised by the linear thinking anti Co2/ human alarmistas.

IAMPCBOB
Reply to  ballynally
June 2, 2025 11:31 am

We are, in fact, being blatantly LIED to, about many things, climate included. Anyone with half a brain, who has lived on this planet more than a couple dozen years, knows that the weather/climate hasn’t changed much! The older one lives, the more certain one becomes of this basic truth!

June 1, 2025 6:34 am

The blogger cites a NASA claim that climate changes cause an increase in wildfires, then shows a NASA graph sowing a decrease in wildfires. But fails to examine WHERE and how wildfires are changing. If she had done so, she would have discovered that wildfires in the southern hemisphere are decreasing because of changes in agricultural practices, whereas wildfires in the northern hemisphere are increasing due to climate change. In other words, the discrepancy is not due to NASA contradicting its own data, but rather is due to scientific reporting errors by Heartland.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Warren Beeton
June 1, 2025 7:11 am

It is well documented in many parts of the world that most so called “wildfires” are actually started by humans and also that land management practices, such as regularly clearing scrub and controlled burns, have been neglected.

This is why from 2020 to 2022 insurance companies in California declined to renew 2.8m households insurance policies in the state

Reply to  Warren Beeton
June 1, 2025 7:41 am

There is no evidence to support the claims that climate change is increasing wildfires anywhere. The factors associated with wildfire activity are far more complex than such simplistic claims insist. The data clearly show that far more acres were burned prior to 1930 in the US than in any period since.
Slightly elevated temperatures do not increase wildfire risk. There have been no increases in drought in general.

Increased human ignition potential coupled with vegetation changes, as well as changing policies regarding firefighting and fuel load accumulation, easily account for local and regional risk variations over the modern period.

Mr.
Reply to  Warren Beeton
June 1, 2025 10:19 am

Wazza, thanks for your tacit admission here that there are different climates all around the world.

Hundreds if not thousands of the buggers really, all with their own unique behaviors & patterns, some showing fairly recent minor changes detectable only by precision instruments rather than by direct observation or senses, many showing no detectable changes since homo sapiens first recognized himself from his reflection in a pond. Or even earlier.

And then, in spite of such remarkable stability in most of the climates, we get some buffoons ranting about a “climate crisis”.

The gods must be truly amused by the antics of some of their creations brain-farts.

IAMPCBOB
Reply to  Mr.
June 2, 2025 11:37 am

I couldn’t have said it better!

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Warren Beeton
June 2, 2025 11:06 am

Wildfires in the north are more due to forest mismanagement than anything climate related.

IAMPCBOB
Reply to  Warren Beeton
June 2, 2025 11:35 am

Once you said, ‘whereas wildfires in the northern hemisphere are increasing due to climate change.’ I KNEW you didn’t have a clue what you were talking about!

ResourceGuy
June 1, 2025 4:36 pm

Why can’t journalism majors do something useful like research and highlight the massive overbuild of parking lots in America in the urban heat islands. Remember to take swipes at the ‘good planning’ self pronouncements of the planner profession.

Sparta Nova 4
June 2, 2025 10:58 am

This is misstated:
“Climate change by definition has effects on the weather; climate is a statistical construct based on weather patterns over a certain period of time, usually 30 years”

Climate change by definition has NO affect on the weather. Climate change by definition is the change of a 30 year running average of weather.

Climate and climate change are statistical constructs. Calculations do not affect weather.