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CD in Wisconsin
April 27, 2025 2:28 am

Looks as though Britain is going to finance a crazy geoengineering project…..

https://www.ctol.digital/news/uk-government-commits-50-million-controversial-solar-geoengineering-field-trials/

“In a controversial move that positions Britain at the vanguard of experimental climate intervention, the UK government is to commit £50 million to field trials of solar radiation modification (SRM) technologies. The initiative, spearheaded by the Advanced Research and Invention Agency (ARIA), marks a significant escalation in the global conversation about geoengineering as a potential tool against climate change—even as critics warn of environmental risks and ethical hazards.”

“We’re entering uncharted territory with profound implications for global markets, environmental governance, and the future of climate adaptation,” remarked a senior climate economist who advises institutional investors. “This isn’t just about science—it’s about who controls the planetary thermostat.”

The funding package will support controlled outdoor experiments of multiple SRM techniques, including stratospheric aerosol injection and marine cloud brightening. Projects are expected to receive formal approval within weeks, operating under strict safety protocols and reversibility guidelines. Oxford University researchers are preparing what may be the flagship initiative: a high-altitude balloon deployment that will release and monitor aerosols in the stratosphere.

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Is it me, or does it seem counterintuitive to do this while putting solar panels on one’s roof and building solar farms to generate electricity from the Sun? Isn’t the solar geoengineering project (to restrict some of the Sun from reaching Earth) undermining the effort to generate solar electricity?

According to Grok AI, Britain gets about 1403 hours of sunshine a year which averages out to about 3.8 hours per day. The Sahara Desert it isn’t with fifty million pounds slated to do this. Are the inmates running the asylum here?

strativarius
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
April 27, 2025 2:52 am

It all makes net zero sense.

Idle Eric
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
April 27, 2025 3:26 am

Could lead to some useful tools to have in the box, just in case, and would certainly help the arguments against net-zero and CAGW.

Who cares about £50m for research that could be deployed worldwide, when we’re wasting tens of billions each year on subsidising renewables?

strativarius
Reply to  Idle Eric
April 27, 2025 3:28 am

Tesco…

Every little helps

Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
April 27, 2025 8:58 am

We’re entering uncharted territory

Indeed, including international diplomacy. I could easily see another country seeing such actions as an imminent threat.

Rick C
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
April 27, 2025 5:29 pm

And just how would they measure whether or not its working? Since anything they pollute the upper atmosphere with cannot be kept from wandering off to some other country’s sky, don’t they need permission from the rest of the world? Could France sue them if their grape harvest shrinks? What if Norway doesn’t want to be cooler?

I’d love the see their “strict protocol and reversibility guidelines.” Should be good for a laugh.

April 27, 2025 2:30 am

NASA, from a web article published January 14, 2009:

“At an altitude of roughly 5-6 kilometers, the concentration of greenhouse gases in the overlying atmosphere is so small that heat can radiate freely to space.”

If you connect the dots, there was never any good reason to think incremental CO2 would be capable of de-rating the planet’s longwave emitter. That is the essence of the AGW claim – i.e. that it would require a higher temperature substrate (the surface) to maintain the longwave output of the emitter device. It was a misconception to have ever thought that direct radiative emission from the surface to space was critical to maintaining earth’s composite output. The valid null hypothesis is that there is no de-rating as an end result, when the circulation is properly considered. That null hypothesis has not been falsified.

More here about what #NASA_Knew. This is important background, I suggest, as the December 2009 “Endangerment Finding” is being reconsidered at the EPA.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/05/16/wuwt-contest-runner-up-professional-nasa-knew-better-nasa_knew/

Reply to  David Dibbell
April 27, 2025 8:51 am

re “altitude of roughly 5-6 kilometers”* etc.

Upon re-reading your prize-winning essay (‘NASA knew better’ from 2022 A.D.), it reminds me to ask:

First, have you had any luck with the challenge of deriving the empirical Eschenbach Constant (1.654), or its fourth-root (1.134)? There must be a way, from your starting point! [ Keyword: ‘Global Greenhouse Efficiency‘]

Second, what is the status of your criticism of the reported CERES (radiant energy fluxes), i.e. that the satellite instruments seem to have no direct way to account for (changes in) the Specular Reflection of incoming solar (shortwave) radiation, as that is annoyingly omitted from the formal definition of ‘Albedo‘?

[I recall that you were treated badly for questioning its completeness, but now it seems ‘the worm has turned’ on this, thanks to Clauser et al.’s criticism of the Loeb et al. procedures (underlying EEI).]

Thanks in advance for your effort to address these pesky questions,
cheers — RLW

*… controlled outdoor experiments of multiple SRM techniques, including stratospheric aerosol injection and marine cloud brightening. Projects are expected to receive formal approval within weeks, operating under strict safety protocols and reversibility guidelines. Oxford University researchers are preparing what may be the flagship initiative: a high-altitude balloon deployment that will release and monitor aerosols in the stratosphere.

Reply to  Whetten Robert L
April 27, 2025 9:22 pm

… the satellite instruments seem to have no direct way to account for (changes in) the Specular Reflection of incoming solar (shortwave) radiation, as that is annoyingly omitted from the formal definition of ‘Albedo‘?

Actually, the formal definition of “albedo,” developed by astronomers to characterize the apparent brightness of celestial bodies, which do not have water or vegetation, does not consider specular reflectance: “Albedo is the fraction of sunlight that is diffusely reflected by a body. It is measured on a scale from 0 to 1.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albedo

If you haven’t read it, please consider reading the following:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/09/12/why-albedo-is-the-wrong-measure-of-reflectivity-for-modeling-climate/

Reply to  Clyde Spencer
April 28, 2025 4:13 am

Thanks for that link to your 2016 article. No doubt I read it when it was posted, but this is a great reminder. Another good reason to consider the “EEI” claims to be pure fiction.

Reply to  David Dibbell
April 27, 2025 9:12 am

Ah, consider the circulation, as well? I thought that that was what General Circulation Models were supposed to do.

Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
April 27, 2025 9:37 am

surely you jest
GCMs without clouds etc

Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
April 27, 2025 2:00 pm

Supposedly, yes, but they are misapplied in circular fashion beginning with the “forcing” + “feedback” framing of the investigation of incremental CO2. “Properly” such models do inform us that energy conversion in the general circulation overwhelms any tendency for sensible heat to accumulate as a result of rising concentration. That’s why I like the ERA5 reanalysis and keep posting this time-lapse video.
https://youtu.be/hDurP-4gVrY

strativarius
April 27, 2025 3:07 am

The UK and the International Energy Agency gathered ministers and high-level officials from 60 countries to Lancaster House in London for two days of talks on the future of energy security this week. The EU was out in force, the US sent a top official, but China stayed away. 
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/apr/25/five-things-we-learned-about-the-future-of-energy-security-at-uk-summit

Trump official rips climate policy at London energy summit Acting Assistant Secretary Tommy Joyce also took aim at Joe Biden’s climate legacy.
https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-official-tommy-joyce-rip-climate-policy-london-energy-summit/

Rachel Reeves suggests UK-EU trade more important than US deal ahead of Washington talks – MSN

Starmer slaps down Rachel Reeves over claim EU trade more important than US deal – MSN

And they say Trump is chaotic.

Reply to  strativarius
April 27, 2025 9:57 am

Re the “London Energy Summit” (from the politico.eu article)
Mightily amused by this one —
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French Minister for Industry and Energy Marc Ferracci … said:
“As long as we remain massively dependent on fossil fuels, there will be no energy security for Europe.”
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A safe counter-wager is that, when the real test of Europe’s energy security arrives, they will be fueling their engines on domestic liquefied coal, just like in the 1940s.

Reply to  strativarius
April 28, 2025 3:53 am

The “interpretation” of Trump’s policies by the Government-owned/subsidized Corporate Media are

1) almost always, purposely chaotic to make Trump look bad,
2) rarely mention the many positive effects,
3) rarely make suggestions to make Trump’s policies even better.

Ron Long
April 27, 2025 3:18 am

I’m furious at this. At the funeral of Pope Francisco CNN’s Anderson Cooper interviewed John Ketchup Kerry. Kerry insulted climate change (anthropogenic) non-believers, encouraged on by Cooper (maybe there’s something about the two?), and identified the Pope as a Net Zero, Save The World, advocate. I’m furious enough, so if anyone knows Kerry’s address, don’t tell me.

strativarius
Reply to  Ron Long
April 27, 2025 3:22 am

Cooper… ah yes…

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Derg
Reply to  strativarius
April 27, 2025 6:37 am

That one pic never fails to make me laugh. Honest reporting 😉

Reply to  strativarius
April 27, 2025 9:11 am

The land slopes off quickly, right?

Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
April 27, 2025 9:26 pm

It looks like cattails behind him, suggesting that he might be standing in a pond or creek.

Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
April 28, 2025 5:17 am

He is on his knees to “increase” the flooding

Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
April 28, 2025 8:08 am

He was standing in a drainage ditch.
On TV, the audience didn’t see the TV crew member seen in the photo standing in water that looks like only midcalf deep.

Reply to  Ron Long
April 27, 2025 6:14 am

John “$700 haircuts” Kerry.

Mr.
Reply to  Ron Long
April 27, 2025 7:12 am

I wish the CAGW chiefs would make Kerry the global “Face Of The Fight Against Climate Change”.

Constantly presenting this gormless numpty to the world as our savior would put paid to the AGW religion in short time.

Reply to  Ron Long
April 27, 2025 8:12 am

Re “maybe there’s something about the two?
How’s this?:
Nepo [Heinz Heiress] Hubby meets Nepo [Vanderbilt Heiress] Baby ?

Idle Eric
April 27, 2025 3:22 am

Reading David Turver’s analysis of the UK CCC’s latest Carbon budget https://davidturver.substack.com/p/the-ccc-clams-up-goes-insane, the following jumps out at me:

I would contend that their scant analysis, particularly not taking account of the high actual cost of renewables, falls short of the statutory requirements, but a proper KC would need to confirm. It would be interesting to see if anyone thinks there is a basis for Judicial Review of the Seventh Carbon Budget.

Although I am no more a barrister than DT is, it seems to me that there is in fact a very strong case for a judicial review, and good reason to think that such a review might in fact succeed.

I wonder if it would be possible to crowd source the funding for a judicial review, kind of like a reverse “Good Law Project”, I wonder if Jim Ratcliffe (INEOS) or other wealthy individuals would be interested in supporting such a review?

strativarius
Reply to  Idle Eric
April 27, 2025 3:31 am

a proper KC would need to confirm.

A proper KC told us trans women are women and that is the law

And then it wasn’t the law.

Idle Eric
Reply to  strativarius
April 27, 2025 5:59 am

You are talking about TTK Starmer of course.

I’d suggest someone a little less besotted with the fashionable Islington left.

strativarius
Reply to  Idle Eric
April 27, 2025 6:58 am

Such as?

Idle Eric
Reply to  strativarius
April 27, 2025 10:05 am

BlackBeltBarrister off of YouTube perhaps?

April 27, 2025 3:41 am

positions Britain at the vanguard of experimental climate” as I remember them Vanguards were crap – looked terrible, lost their paint, rusted, fell apart .. no science .. indeed experimental ..

Like the Leyland P76 bomber (do you want a 44-gallon drum in the boot with that?), Not to mention darkening their reputation with the Morris Minor .. Major, 1800 and arse scraping Morris 850.

Nothing to do with the climate.

Before fussing about the climate, and they sold-off to China, them British invented how expensive stuff fell apart in front of your very eyes – long live their Empire!

Or not.

Cheers,
Dr Bill Johnston
http://www.bomwatch.com.au

Idle Eric
Reply to  Bill Johnston
April 27, 2025 4:11 am

Not to mention darkening their reputation with the Morris Minor .. Major, 1800 and arse scraping Morris 850.

You might not like them, but there are a couple of all-time greats in there, a good one of which will set you back about £15,000.

Reply to  Bill Johnston
April 27, 2025 6:08 am

Jaguar owners needed a captive auto electrician to keep them on the road.

1800s were not known for longevity but the idea of a wheel on each corner gave them stunning handling for their time and were more luxurious than the Mini. The Mini came second to the Model T in the Car of the Century vote in 1999. Design an engineering marvel and materials efficient but not quite up there with the Model T.

The UK has been in industrial decline since the 1960s – as Japan’s manufacturing found quality. I believe China will set the new benchmark. They lead in EV technology.

Mr.
Reply to  Bill Johnston
April 27, 2025 7:31 am

I had a Morris Oxford 1953 model as my first street legal car in 1965.
Cost me £40, and I had it for a year, and sold it for £45 just before rego was due again, and all I spent on it in that year was petrol and a bit of oil occasionally.

Of course, water was free, and just as well for me, because that clunker lost all its radiator water every 25 miles or so.

I could have really used one of those P76 boots that took a 44-gallon drum.

Reply to  Mr.
April 27, 2025 11:52 am

44 gallons of water is a lot of weight to drag around.

Mr.
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
April 27, 2025 12:25 pm

Yeah but my Morris Oxford would have emptied about half of it every 50 miles or so.

Wish I would have thought of it at the time, but I could have rented that clunker to the City as a dust-suppressing water sprayer vehicle.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
April 27, 2025 12:32 pm

Especially when you realize that he’s talking imperial gallons. (53 real gallons) 😝

Reply to  Bill Johnston
April 27, 2025 1:14 pm

Hey, don’t knock the Morris cars from the 60s and 70s. My dad had a Clubman we both were very fond of. Yes, they rusted, moulded but were fun to drive and the wee engine hummed nicely.
The mistake they made w ( i think) the Mini is that they had to compete w the VW Beetle. So they priced it a bit lower..but they couldnt actually produce one that was cheaper so they lost money on every mini sold. However, i much prefer them to the frankly awful Beetle.

April 27, 2025 4:12 am

Crimea will stay with Russia.

That’s the quote from Trump about a ceasefire in Ukraine.

Most people are saying this means Trump wants to give Crimea to Russia as part of the deal.

I say you should listen carefully to Trump. He is just stating the obvious. He is not saying Crimea is not Ukrainian territory, he is saying that at the present time Crimea will stay with Russia because Russia is occupying Crimea right now, and there is no way at the present time to force them out, and a ceasefire should not be predicated on doing so.

Ukraine has said they will never give up Crimea. Trump knows this. He is not trying to get them to give it up.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 27, 2025 6:18 am

If Ukraine could blow up the Kerch bridge- it would greatly weaken Russia’s hold on Crimea. I’m betting it’ll happen too- and that’ll change the course of the war.

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
April 27, 2025 6:31 am

They have had since 2014 to blow it up. What has kept them?

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  mkelly
April 27, 2025 12:31 pm

The bridge was opened in 2018.

Reply to  mkelly
April 28, 2025 4:43 am

Obviously, it’s a difficult target. They’ve been trying and will continue to try.

Derg
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
April 27, 2025 6:38 am

The CIA’s war continues.

Reply to  Derg
April 28, 2025 4:44 am

Try reading a history book on Russia.

Simon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 27, 2025 1:30 pm

And I see Trump has finally woken up to the fact that Putin has been lying to him and that he has no intention of finishing the war.

“It makes me think that maybe he doesn’t want to stop the war, he’s just tapping me along, and has to be dealt with differently, through “Banking” or “Secondary Sanctions?” Too many people are dying!!!”

I agree with you Donald on this one….. It has taken you a while, but better late than never. As Churchill once said…

“Americans can always be trusted to do the right thing, once all other possibilities have been exhausted.”

Putin is a murderous dictator and deserves to be treated as such….. Get in there Donald and “do the right thing.” You know, support the invaded not the invader.

Derg
Reply to  Simon
April 27, 2025 3:30 pm

Did you find your pee pee tape

Reply to  Simon
April 27, 2025 4:21 pm

Trump is the only one trying to stop this war.

Putin, Zelensky, EU, NATO all seem to want it to continue

Seem like you want it to continue and to escalate…. warmonger !!

Simon
Reply to  bnice2000
April 27, 2025 5:22 pm

Ah the Russian bot is back. What part of “Get in there Donald and do the right thing. You know, support the invaded not the invader” did you not get?
Everyone wants this war finished. I want it finished with Ukraine keeping it’s country, you seem to want the tyrant Putin to get as much of Ukraine as he can

Reply to  Simon
April 27, 2025 5:50 pm

Trump is the only one trying to stop this war..

I’m not siding with anyone, you poor petty little warmonger…

You say “Get in there…..blah, blah…”

You are saying to keep the fighting going.. maybe WWIII is what you want ??

If you think Putin and Zelensky are any different.. you are delusional.

Do you also side with Hamas, like most leftist loons do ?

Denying the Azov attacks on Russians living in Donbass and Luhansk that led partly to this war, as well as NATO expansionism is just ignorance.

It does not matter who is in charge of Russia, they will never give up their access to Crimea and Sevastopol. Sevastopol is Russia’s only warm water port with access to the Atlantic. Also, Sevastopol is the best port for Russian wheat exports.

NATO promised not to expand after the fall of the Soviet Union.
Since then, 10 countries have been added.

Who is the aggressor ?

Now Russia has to sail through or between NATO countries to access the Atlantic, whether sailing from St Petersburg or Sevastopol. 

NATO and Zelensky poked the bear… stupidity. !

Simon
Reply to  bnice2000
April 27, 2025 6:33 pm

“If you think Putin and Zelensky are any different.. you are delusional.”

Please tell me how many countries Z has invaded? Or how many people he has thrown out of windows? Of how many political opponents he has had murdered after he locked them up? Or how many of his soldiers he has had shot out of the sky killing others on the plane? I’ll look forward to your response Mr Russian Bot.

“NATO promised not to expand after the fall of the Soviet Union.
Since then, 10 countries have been added.”

And Russia promised not to invade Ukraine when they gave up their nukes. How did that go?

Further to…..”NATO promised not to expand after the fall of the Soviet Union.
Since then, 10 countries have been added.”
More gold plated Kremlin garbage. You really are a troll for the Russians aren’t you. What a sick man you are spreading this misinformation. Read all about the lies here….

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm

Reply to  bnice2000
April 28, 2025 4:45 am

Should we have stopped WWII while Germany still occupied other nations- and while Japan still occupied much of China and SE Asia?

Rich Davis
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 27, 2025 1:36 pm

Turkey has a better claim on Crimea than does Ukraine. In its long history, Crimea was only associated with Ukraine for 60 years, more than half of that in-name-only as a part of the Soviet empire dominated by Russia.

There are about as many Crimean Tartars and other minorities as there are ethnic Ukrainians. Probably at least two thirds are ethnic Russians (Russia says three quarters).

There are quite a few people who post here regularly who were alive when Crimea was first transferred to the Ukrainian SSR in 1954. That was the first time it was ever part of Ukraine. Sacred territory it is not.

If territorial integrity is the be-all end-all then why has roughly a quarter of Germany been handed over to Poland and Russia?

The other argument of self-determination would strike even harder when considering German territorial losses. At least 80% of the inhabitants of the Polish Administration Zone were German in 1937, and many areas 95%.

Similarly, and ironically, large parts of Ukraine today were part of Poland in 1918.

With probably a quarter million or more deaths resulting from this war, the time has come for common sense to rule. That is not even to consider the > $100 billion of US taxpayer funds poured into this senseless slaughter.

Reply to  Rich Davis
April 27, 2025 5:52 pm

“There are quite a few people who post here regularly who were alive when Crimea was first transferred to the Ukrainian SSR in 1954. That was the first time it was ever part of Ukraine. Sacred territory it is not.”

Apparently, you and Trump are on the same page because he is saying something similar today.

Trump says Ukraine should give Russia the Crimea, and used an argument such as yours.

I guess we are going to find out just how precious Crimea is to Ukraine.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 28, 2025 4:17 am

Peace Would be a Blessing for Ukraine
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/peace-would-be-a-blessing-for-ukraine

The Central Committee of the USSR was the sovereign entity of the USSR.
It determined the borders of all 15 SSRs, as needed.
It transferred Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR in 1954, but also could take it away.
The Crimean Tartar Khanate was ceded by the Ottoman Empire to the Russian Empire in 1783, after losing a few wars.

Unknown-2
Reply to  Rich Davis
April 28, 2025 4:07 am

Peace Would be a Blessing for Ukraine
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/peace-would-be-a-blessing-for-ukraine

The Ottoman Empire
In 1600, the Ottoman Empire, OE, included almost all borderlands of the Black Sea.
The Crimean Tartar Khanate, CTK, was a vassal state of the OE.
It controlled the Black Sea border lands from present-day Moldova to past Rostov, and bordered in the north to Russia. See below image
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For hundreds of years, Tartars rounded up ZCH and Russian peasants, and sold them as slaves to the OE.
The local Russians/Cossacks appealed to Russia for relief.
After several Russian-OE wars lost by the OE, most of the Black Sea borderlands became part of the Russia in 1783, except for 1) Rumania, 2) Bulgaria, and 3) present-day Turkey.
The Ottoman Empire, by treaty, ceded the Crimean Tatar Khanate to Russia in 1783, more than 240 years ago, which put an end to the slave raiding business.
Odessa was founded by the Katherine the Great in 1794 on the site of the OE fortress town of Khadzhibei.
.
Annexing the Crimean Tartar Khanate ultimately gave Russia access to the Black Sea, a continuous arc from the Caucasus to Rumania.
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/7118

Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 27, 2025 5:44 pm

Well, it looks like I was mistaken. Trump is suggesting Ukraine give up the Crimea to Russia.

I think this is a big mistake by Trump.

The Ukrainians are not going to voluntarily hand over Crimea to Russia. Making that part of the deal is a mistake, unless I’m missing a very subtle part of the Art of the Deal.

This will open Trump to a barrage of criticism from the Democrats and the Europeans.

When the Soviet Union overran many European nations after World War II, even though they were occupied by Russian troops, the West never agreed that they were part of the Soviet Union. And after the Soviet Union fell, these nations became independent again.

I’m surprised at the muddled thinking of Trump on this issue. Maybe he will show me I am wrong, but I don’t see this Crimea move as helping him or the situation, at all. In fact, it undermines confidence in Trump, certainly with the Ukrainians and the majority of the American people who say we should be helping Ukraine to remain free.

If Putin insists on continuing the war, the only good option is for Trump to put economic restrictions on his economy that will really hurt, and will up-arm Ukraine with all the weapons it needs to defend itself. Any other choice puts the West and the United States in great danger.

Yes, there is an ocean between the U.S. and Europe, but that won’t slow things down much if murderous dictators are allowed to run rampant.

Where do you stop the murderous Putin? If not Ukraine, then where? You do plan on stopping him don’t you? You won’t stop him by giving away captured land. That will just make him more greedy.

We’ll see if this Crimea mistake is detrimental to the Republican Party. If so, then it is detrimental to the rest of us if it gives Democrats enough of a talking point to put themselves back in power. Then, we are in trouble.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 27, 2025 6:10 pm

Crimea was Russian far longer than it was ever Ukrainian. Before that it was Turkish (Ottoman) and before that Byzantine. Between 2/3 and 3/4 of the people are ethnically Russian. Only 1/8 Ukrainian. They voted to rejoin Russia.

Trump is just using common sense.

If Putin can’t defeat Ukraine in two years, they sure as hell can’t take over Europe. Even if there were some rational explanation for doing that. Maybe Europe’s only hope would be for Putin to go into the EU and evict the invading horde. But unfortunately they’re not up to that task.

Reply to  Rich Davis
April 28, 2025 4:33 am

Peace Would be a Blessing for Ukraine
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/peace-would-be-a-blessing-for-ukraine

Russia, with hypersonic missiles could turn Europe into a pole of ashes in the few hours, but then the US would turn Russia and China into a pile of ashes?
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Trump wants to end the killing so he can concentrate on and devote more resources to MAGA
Russia wants to end the killing as well, but also wants 1) no NATO in Ukraine, 2) no “Erase-Everything-Russian Program, 3) no re-arming of Ukraine, 4) normal relations with Ukraine, etc.
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In typical demagogue fashion, Zelinsky said: “Ukraine will not give up any territory to the invaders. It belongs to the Ukraine people”.
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He surely knows, but does not mention, the entire territory of Ukraine was created with Russian lands by the USSR Central Committee, led by Lenin in 1922.
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Trump responded: “If Ukraine fights another three years, it will lose the entire country”.
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https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/the-plot-is-thickening-with-germany-and-france-no-longer-in
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/there-are-at-least-8-provocations-that-led-to-the-ukraine-russian

Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 28, 2025 4:01 am

Peace Would be a Blessing for Ukraine
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/peace-would-be-a-blessing-for-ukraine

The Ottoman Empire
In 1600, the Ottoman Empire, OE, included almost all borderlands of the Black Sea.
The Crimean Tartar Khanate, CTK, was a vassal state of the OE.
It controlled the Black Sea border lands from present-day Moldova to past Rostov, and bordered in the north to Russia. See below image
.
For hundreds of years, Tartars rounded up ZCH and Russian peasants, and sold them as slaves to the OE.
The local Russians/Cossacks appealed to Russia for relief.
After several Russian-OE wars lost by the OE, most of the Black Sea borderlands became part of the Russia in 1783, except for 1) Rumania, 2) Bulgaria, and 3) present-day Turkey.
The Ottoman Empire, by treaty, ceded the Crimean Tatar Khanate to Russia in 1783, more than 240 years ago, which put an end to the slave raiding business.
Odessa was founded by the Katherine the Great in 1794 on the site of the OE fortress town of Khadzhibei.
.
Annexing the Crimean Tartar Khanate ultimately gave Russia access to the Black Sea, a continuous arc from the Caucasus to Rumania.
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/7118

Creating Ukrainian SSR Borders in 1922
The Central Committee of the USSR established the borders of the Ukraine SSR in 1922
It transferred lands (formerly the Crimean Tartar Khanate) to give the Ukrainian SSR access to the Black Sea
It placed the Azov Sea area under joint control with the Ukrainian SSR
It added Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR in 1954, as part of the 300-y celebration of the Pereyaslav Treaty of January 1654.
The USSR lasted from 1922 to December 26, 1991
The Ukrainian SSR declared independence on August 24, 1991, which was affirmed by a referendum on December 1, 1991, where 90% of voters supported independence.
Ukraine finally became a sovereign country at the end of 1991
 
NOTE:
The 90% was likely due to Ukrainians thinking the Soviet Union, aka Russia, would be similar to the USSR, which turned out not to be the case, especially after Putin became President in 2000.
If an election were held in Ukraine in the near future, Ukraine and Brussels likely would have many voting stations in west Europe, but allow only a few stations in Russia, as was done to “win” the recent Moldova presidential election.
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Land Additions to Western Ukraine
Western Ukraine is mostly made up of lands ceded by various countries to the USSR:
1) Poland ceded Eastern Galicia and Volhynia to the USSR, by treaty, in 1939
The USSR added them to the Ukrainian SSR in 1939
2) Czechoslovak ceded Transcarpathia to the USSR, by treaty, in 1945.
The USSR added it as Zakarpattia Oblast to the Ukrainian SSR in 1946
3) Rumania ceded Bessarabia and northern Bukovina to the USSR, by treaty, in 1940.
The USSR added them to the Ukrainian SSR in 1940 and 1948

strativarius
April 27, 2025 4:24 am

Scunthorpe news

Coal delivery arrives to keep Scunthorpe steel plant working for months – The Guardian

Nope, it didn’t come from Cumbria – roughly 150 miles away…

The blast furnace coke that arrived on Sunday was imported from Bluescope Steel’s plant in Australia. 

Alan Welch
April 27, 2025 5:27 am

At the end of May 1946 three astronomers, Ĺudmila Pajdušảkovả (Slovakia), Rotbart (USA) and Anton Weber (Germany) independently discovered comet C/1946 K1 (Pajdušảkovả- Rotbart-Weber). Weber made his discovery whilst sitting on a war damaged toilet (who thinks men can’t multitask!).   Seeing only a small portion of the sky may have helped in seeing a diffuse object at about magnitude 6 or did he take his binoculars into the toilet? Ask no more.
Over centuries comets have been harbingers of bad and good. Death of Kings or birth of Princes, start of wars or beginning of peace, etc. Two weeks later 14th June 1946 Donald J Trump was born.
Bad or good? !!

Scarecrow Repair
April 27, 2025 6:02 am

I asked this once before, but didn’t write it as a question and got no answers. Funny how that works ….

Are there publicly available / accessible climate models which could do things like:

  • Compare climate with and without the Panama isthmus separating the Pacific and Atlantic oceans
  • Input Tolkien’s Middle Earth and other fictional worlds to see how continental shapes change climate

I absolutely do not want to model climates in any “realistic” sense. It’s all to compare changes, to see where rainfall increases or changes to snow, in a very general sense.

I have no idea how you’d even enter the continental shapes, if mountain ranges matter, etc.

A pure toy, so to speak. I don’t care if it’s on a server with a web interface or something needing installation on my computer. If it costs money, price matters, but I don’t insist on free.

Reply to  Scarecrow Repair
April 27, 2025 11:59 am

’If it costs money, price matters, but I don’t insist on free.’

You might be able to get a deal on a used model from GISS – I understand they’re moving.

Ireneusz
April 27, 2025 6:29 am

This is already another thunderstorms front in Texas. There are floods in the north and heavy losses.
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Scissor
Reply to  Ireneusz
April 27, 2025 6:53 am

In reference to Stevie Ray Vaughn, are all the telephone lines down? We had some nice rain from this in Colorado. Fog is just burning off this AM.

What’s going on with SST in tropical Pacific?

Ireneusz
Reply to  Scissor
April 27, 2025 8:11 am

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Ireneusz
Reply to  Scissor
April 27, 2025 8:17 am

A spot of cold over California will draw moisture from the Gulf of Mexico.
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Reply to  Ireneusz
April 27, 2025 9:36 am

i see the cold spot over ca. but having trouble locating the gulf of mexico in your map?

Ireneusz
Reply to  joe x
April 27, 2025 10:02 am

I try to be consistent with the world’s geographical names.
I don’t have a big problem with it.

Reply to  joe x
April 27, 2025 10:03 am

Try ‘Gulf of America’ next time

Ireneusz
Reply to  Whetten Robert L
April 27, 2025 10:56 am

This name is now valid only in the US.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Ireneusz
April 27, 2025 1:52 pm

If we don’t go by what countries choose to call their regions, then I guess I’m back to saying Burma and Ceylon—much more sensible names anyway.

Also Danzig, Breslau, Stettin, and Karlsbad, for that matter.

Ireneusz
Reply to  Rich Davis
April 27, 2025 11:21 pm

Since you are “rich,” you can call anything you want, and the Gulf of Mexico is not US property.

hdhoese
Reply to  Whetten Robert L
April 27, 2025 3:12 pm

Don’t think it matters in this case, but if you’ve ever had to trace names you could understand. Also makes it worse when they either give no reason or one that lacks homework or logic, which seems to be on the rise with all the other nonsense. Maybe would help if they made a song out of it.

Kit P
April 27, 2025 4:06 pm

Is there an annual award for chlerry picking data and ignoring the obvious? ‘Story tip’

It was hard to stomach this video but I watched the whole thing,

US Coal is DEAD. How Trump’s energy policy is evaporating before his eyes!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=242pqLSFzh4

What is obvious is the role of natural gas, a fossil fuel, in the production of US electricity. Cherry picking data from 2024 ignores that Trump was not POTUS in 2024.

A little history. My job in new reactors, went away when POTUS Clinton announced nuclear was dead. He also tried to kill coal. Did some work in renewable energy but soon found out that it was a scam.

Who can forget the 2000 rolling b lockouts in California. Some blamed POTUS Bush. At the time, he was governor of Texas. He got new fossil power plants built by having a small renewable energy portfolio stand. Texas built wind farms in the part of Texas where few live.

A few years later I am backing working on new reactors. There were 36 reactors on the NRC docket. We were also building LNG terminals to import natural gas.

Now the US is the leading exporter of LNG and we are building more terminals to export. The paper work for new reactor sites and the sites are prepared. Just waiting for when they are needed.

The most expensive and environmentally damaging MWh of power is the one not available when needed. We are going to need more coal power.

ThurstonBT
April 27, 2025 5:00 pm

Would someone please provide a URL(s) for a well-sourced graph that shows measured/proxy-inferred temperatures from 1A.D. to present?

observa
April 27, 2025 7:35 pm

It’s hard to keep up with all the settled science rolling in nowadays-
Big Bang Theory Debunked? A Physicist Presents An Alternative

Ireneusz
April 27, 2025 11:46 pm

Do you really not see changes on the Sun?
http://wso.stanford.edu/gifs/Polar.gif

April 28, 2025 6:08 pm

https://x.com/marian_nok/status/1916247083197022701

HIGH COURT, GET LOST! THE SUPREME COURT’S DECISION IS ABSOLUTELY NULL! ALEXANDRU VASILE, THE HERO OF ROMANIA!

Judge Alexandru Vasile from the Ploiești Court of Appeal annulled Decision no. 32 of the Constitutional Court (CCR) which had annulled the presidential elections, and ordered the suspension of its enforcement. The reasoning of the ruling is exceptional, both in law and in fact, with the utmost clarity, worthy of the highest judiciary! With a comprehensive description of the constitutional and legal framework and concrete references to the Venice Commission Report, ratified by the General Assembly of the Council of Europe.