Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
The noted climate alarmist Andrew Dessler has written a Substack post bemoaning the Trump Administration’s decision to cut the “overhead” in Federal research grants to universities from ~ 50% to 15%. He claims that this cost-cutting measure “will determine whether breakthrough technologies emerge in American labs or Chinese ones.”

So let’s see if that scary claim about China is reasonable. For starters, what’s “overhead” when it’s at home? It’s the cost of support services for the organization as a whole. Here’s Andrew’s reasonable description:
Overhead is “the countless support systems making that research possible. Air conditioning, electricity for lighting, wifi, janitorial services, administrative support for payroll and purchasing, and a million other things that cannot be neatly assigned to a particular research project but without which research cannot be done.”
Now, I have more than a passing knowledge of this issue of overhead amounts. In my work running an NGO, I wrote grants that raised over USD$2 million over three years from donors in Australia, New Zealand, Denmark, and the US for our village-level development projects in the Solomon Islands, and guess what?
Every single one of the donors, regardless of country, limited our overhead to 15%.
And despite that crushing blow, the 15% overhead maintained the office, paid for the lighting, the air conditioning, the accountant, the janitor, and the “million other things” Andrew lists above.
So to start with, his claim that it is somehow impossible to get by on less than 50% overhead is a joke. In fact, as near as I can find out, universities are almost the only institutions that get to use an overhead which is 50% on top of their direct costs to support those things … and unlike my projects, they have a whole host of other sources of funding.
Next, he says there are three ways that the Universities could respond to that reduction in funding … but guess what?
Not one of the three ways he lists as proposed responses to the reduction in funding involves the University doing what you or I would do in that situation—reduce expenses, duh.
You can tell that Andrew is living high off the government hog when the idea of cutting costs doesn’t even occur to him. I mean, cutting costs might mean you’d need to fire a bunch of pluted bloatocrats living the good life off of government grants, can’t have that.
So I looked up the numbers. Texas A&M, which is Andrew Dessler’s employer, has a total of 13,712 faculty and staff. Of these, 4,111 are teachers, some unknown number of whom are also researchers. It’s likely not more than half, so we can say there are maybe 2,000 researchers.
And there are 9,351 staff, not including janitors and maintenance workers… so they have 2+ administrators for each teacher, which means 4+ administrators for each researcher. Are we starting to understand why they say they need 50% overheads?
Dessler’s next claim is hilarious. Discussing one of the three ways universities could respond to the cut in overheads, he says:
“Second, universities could find another source of money to cover these costs. But money needs to come from somewhere, and Texas A&M doesn’t have a pile of it sitting around waiting to be spent.”
So I looked up Texas A&M’s funding. To start with, Texas A&M has a trust fund from which it receives about $200 million per year … p;us, over the 2024 – 2025 two year period, total Texas State appropriations to the Texas A&M University System are $3.78 billion, reflecting an increase of $1.19 billion over the previous biennium.
In addition, there are a variety of other sources of money for Texas A&M. Here are the funding sources and annual income amounts for the University:
Trust Fund $200,000,000
State Grants $1,890,000,000
Tuition & Fees $1,354,000,000
Research Grants (including overheads) $845,900,000
Direct Federal Funding $704,000,000
Gifts & Donations $149,100,000
Auxiliary Enterprises $462,600,000
Investment Income $403,200,000
Other Sales/Services $29,300,000
TOTAL $6,038,100,000
Next, only about half of the Texas A&M research is funded by the Federal Government. So if Federal overhead for A&M research is cut from 50% to 15%, their total income would be reduced by a whopping … wait for it …
… 1.6%.
I’m sorry, Andrew, but on my planet a 1.6% reduction in university income is not some emergency that will drive all research to China. That’s an easily solvable problem.
They might start with the fact that 43% of their annual expenses go to salaries and that the average professor makes about $130 per hour. But there’s more. Here are the top salaries at Texas A&M:
1 Daniel Durkin Assistant Football Coach $1,425,000
2 Carl Bjork Athletic Director $1,343,750
3 Joni Taylor Head Women's Basketball Coach $1,341,667
4 James Schlossnagle Head Baseball Coach $1,198,296
5 Elijah Robinson Assistant Football Coach $1,058,333
6 James Coley Assistant Football Coach $870,833
7 Margaret Banks President $822,222
8 Robert Petrino Assistant Football Coach $806,061
9 Darrell Dickey Assistant Football Coach $753,297
10 Dameyune Craig Assistant Football Coach $618,750
11 Karen Wooley Distinguished Professor $521,247
12 Gregory Hartman COO & Senior VP $504,167
13 Tommie Robinson Assistant Football Coach $502,083
14 Trisha Ford Head Softball Coach $477,500
15 Terrall Rushing Assistant Football Coach $466,667

Yeah, they’re broke all right … so broke that an Assistant Football Coach tops their salary list at $1.4 megabucks per year and in total, they’re paying their sports-related personnel (coaches, assistant coaches, etc.) over sixteen million dollars per year…
… and Andrew is crying poverty?
The discouraging part is that all these folks living on government money are doing their best to ignore the ugly reality—here in the US, we’re not only broke, we’re in debt up to our eyeballs. We need to, have to, must cut Federal spending wherever we can, including reducing ludicrous overheads for university research. And the inescapable truth is, some cuts will require universities to reduce expenses and fire people. Andrew doesn’t like it, I don’t like it, but it is the brutal reality. The good news is, surviving a cut in overheads is not some impossible task. Thousands and thousands of NGOs survive happily on grants with 15% overheads.
Finally, I would suggest that the hidden truth behind Andrew’s post is that Andrew sees the writing on the wall—his long, lucrative government-funded advocacy for the climate scam is coming to an end. I can understand his concern; he makes on the order of a quarter of a million dollars per year, and his gravy train is about to hit an immovable object in the form of the national debt.
However, I fear that’s an Andrew problem, not a US research problem or a US taxpayer problem.
Best to all,
w.
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Assistant coaches make half a mill per year !? I was assistant coach for my son’s hockey teams a couple of times….only cost me about $1000 in post practice slushies….
Half a mill? That’s peanuts. Heck, the guy at the top of the list is an assistant coach …
w.
Mike Elko, the head football coach, is paid $7,000,000 per year. Perhaps that is Desseler’s unstated leading complaint – here he is, a leading light on the “climate crisis” and he is paid about 1/30 as much as the football coach!
Why isn’t the head coach on the list?
Name, Image, Likeness money paid to buy Texas A&M University athletes ought to be included, too. That stupidity amounts to millions of dollars. Team cohesion and loyalty be damned!
NIL is ruining college football and is on the way to ruining all college sports. Really stupid.
college sports should not be a thing
These athletes have a marketable product; their bodies. Free education? Worth a pretty penny at today’s tuition rates. But, seriously, how much does it cost to out another chair in the classroom? And whose labor and risk puts bodies in the seats and motivates TV networks to pay big bucks for broadcast rights.
Yeah, but it’s a side-show and shouldn’t be associated with the mission of academics. Maybe the pure of heart academics should cut the gender studies programs first. All of them.
I recall an article from the mif-1980s. Doug Flutie accomplished the impossible, week after week as he led Boston College’s football team to win after win. Forget bodies in the seats and eyeballs on the TV – during the Flutie Era, applications for admission went through the roof at BC. So did aluni donations.
In athletics, the greatest rewards often go to the very young. Money brought in by these dumb jocks benefits both them and the schools.
NIL is here to stay. It is changing college sports. The universities have been derelict in shaping the change. If anything has hurt college sports, it’s all the conference realignments. It’s all about the $$$
Is there a head football coach who presumably makes more? Or do colleges handle their coaching differently? There’s a head women’s basketball coach and a head men’s baseball coach and a head women’s softball coach, why no head men’s football coach?
REMOVED—Please don’t post ads on WUWT threads.
Thanks.
w.
Yeah, no, I don’t think so.
Mike, you’ve put an ad in the middle of a discussion of overhead. I’ve removed it.
w.
bad link …..Mike Elko’s Salary, Contract, Net Worth, and More | College Sports Network
Thanks 🙂 Interesting he doesn’t show on the list. Probably a different list.
Coach Prime at the University of Colorado makes $10 million a year with $1 million escalation each following year.
Ryan Day at Ohio State makes $11 million. He had two coordinators who made more than $2 million.
And their NIL is around $22M if I remember correctly. Near the top but still behind Texas. Oil money helps!
Been a while since I’ve seen the list but if I remember right, in all 50 states the top paid state employee is a football or basketball coach.
It isn’t just Texas A&M. Harvard is whining the same way. And the Boston Globe says the research OH cuts threaten a Boston/Cambridge recession.
I believe Harvard’s overhead rate is 65%.
The OH is a slush fund so they do not have to justify their expenses.
For many schools, men’s football and basketball programs bring in the money that pays for most of the other sports programs.
It looks like we are talking sports universities. Hamas is into physical fitness.
Waiting for the day that the Hamas/Palestinian sympathisers interrupt a football match. 😉
Hamas fanatics interrupt football fanatics?
Not a smart move.
(But it’d make for a fun highlight reel!)
I just hope #15 is in fact the running backs coach.
Texans take their football seriously
This is nothing, believe me
If you want to see true piss taking, look at the UK full economic costing (FEC) model
You’re talking about 60 to 70% of the total funding being overheads
Yes, that’s right, you bring in 3x, the university steals 2x
There is virtually no accountability for that 2x. They are free to spend it however they please
I think at least one of the reasons that the government introduced this system was to squeeze as much money out of the EU funding stream as possible. Eventually, they EU started capping the overheads at 50% because the Brits were just taking the piss
This is another reason that industry was reluctant to work with universities. It was a struggle to get the university to lower the overhead rate to any significant extent
Companies could not understand why it cost 90 to 100k to hire a research assistant
They would say wow, you pay your guys a lot
No no, we would say, the guy only gets 30k, the rest is overheads
End of conversation
When I ran a university research lab in engineering I used to have to bring in about $500,000 a year. About half of that was from industry and the rest from Industry like Ford,GM, Honda and Yamaha. As I recall our overhead was about 35%, when applied to salaries that you had to include benefits such as SS, Health insurance etc., when that sum was multiplied by the overhead the amount charged was about double the salary.
It’s shocking how universities game the system
Basically they turn us into glorified fund raisers, the funds being for them and not us
It’s all a game, from funding to publications, with journals behaving exactly the same as universities and the quality of scholarship and critical review in the toilet
It’s been a long time — 35 years or so — since I worked in the Military Industrial Complex, but as I recall our home burden rate — the expense of keeping the lights on, the water running, paying the phone bill, patching the parking lot, etc, etc,etc. was about 30-35%.
That’s pretty much in line with the +/- 250 person engineering company I used to run before I retired… in Canada, mostly engineering design of natural gas processing plants but pipelines, compressor stations and miscellaneous from cold storage plants to pool reactor cooling, even CO2 sequestration…the desire to implement stupid solutions is strong with an inordinately high percentage of financial types and it is important to society that engineering companies charge them lots for studying options until their stupidity becomes apparent to them….just telling them it’s a stupid idea gets you fired immediately…and replaced by someone who tells them it’s a good idea.
“… his long, lucrative government-funded advocacy for the climate scam is coming to an end.”
Let’s hope the entire climate scam comes crashing to the ground in the flames of affordable energy from the funding source that powers Texas universities, the Texas oil and gas funds.
It is called the Permanent University Fund (PUF).
Read about how it works here.
https://www.utsystem.edu/puf
Carnival Barker and climate hustler clown Andy D can rest well at night knowing his climate scam paycheck is backstopped by all the hardworking men and women of Texas oil and gas industry in developing, drilling and sending oil and gas to market.
When I was a grad student at UT Arlington, we noticed that the majority of the money went to “The University” (The University of Texas at Austin), with very little left over for the other UT campuses.
“the idea of cutting costs doesn’t even occur to him”. Ivy League alumni have their way of thinking.
That’s exactly how liberals view government. Money left in the private sector is being wasted because the hoi polloi don’t know how to spend it correctly. That’s why they want more and more taxes.
We are dealing with folks who have never had to make a payroll.
So Dressler is either incompetent or a liar…or both.
He’s a climate alarmist so nothing he says has any credibility.
Nice one Willis. I’d love to see a similar analysis done for Harvard 🙂
Harvard does not pay their assistant coaches like A&M.
What does H pay its men’s and women’s rowing teams, including heavyweight and lightweight categories.
What does A&M pay the coaches of its rowing teams?
Very nice Willis, Money is only part of the problem but since we’re talking about our money it is really important. Another problem is the quality of the research. Some studies highlighted here at WUWT aren’t worth spit. It would seem to me an audit of the research we are paying for would be appropriate.
Aren’t compliance costs the largest overhead cost of everything? Reduce compliance costs and delete the tort bar and you have basically fixed America.
“Texas A&M, which is Andrew Dessler’s employer, has a total of 13,712 faculty and staff.”
They only have about 58000 students. So they need 1 staff member for 4 students. They have 1 teacher for 14 students. It’s been a long time but I don’t think I had one class with only 14 students.
You nailed it about the costs. From what I’ve read most universities lose money on athletics, A & M probably not. I have two degrees from there when it was just a college, including a minor in oceanography before meteorology was split off. Just this morning I happened to get this from Sigma Xi’s ‘Smart Brief’ from their Department of Ocean Engineering where the authors modeled Atlantic islands that I know quite a bit about. We were taught along with homework that you had to be there, didn’t read like they knew such. Been on lots of barrier islands and known numerous geologists who have studied this for decades. Also learned that barriers were basically uninhabitable in the long run as two of their studied islands proved, and require large subsidies which can degrade them. I wonder if geologists rumble louder when they roll in their graves?
https://www.earth.com/news/healthy-dune-systems-on-barrier-islands-protect-coastal-cities/ “Future research could include advanced computer models….”
https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-024-01611-4
From Dressler “First, university departments could explicitly include these costs in grant proposals. Imagine future research proposals where we must specify line items for “fraction of janitorial expenses,” “fraction of elevator maintenance,” or “fraction of wifi” used by a particular project.” We didn’t have departments of ocean engineering, use elevators or wi-fi, aggies had to walk, climb, sail or run and didn’t know about “control knobs.” Did have a great statistics course, among others.
How much overhead did Albert Einstein require?
Please help me understand your accounting. Suppose I have an employee working 2080 hours a year, 52 weeks x 40 hrs/week. I allow them ten holidays and ten days (or two weeks) vacation. That’s 160 hours leaving 1920 of actual work I can bill to the government. That’s 8.33% extra I have to charge. Plus, I have to pay 7.5% as the employer contribution to Social Security taxes. That’s 15.8% already, and I haven’t paid for health insurance for my employee, facilities, management overhead, or anything else. 50% is a very reasonable overhead cost when all those things are added in. In fact, when I was a Principal Investigator working Small Business Innovative Resarch contracts, NSF was limited to 50% overhead, and we could only do work for them if we reallocated the 7% fee we were allowed to cover other expenses. Could you explain the financial breakdown of how a 15% overhead rate is supposed to cover reasonable expenses? Are you rolling fringe in as a direct expense or something like that?
no one person is working on one single grant … spread your math over half a dozen grants/projects … all of these “researchers” are also teachers …
The amount you get in the grant covers all of those direct salary items already – the overhead is on top of that. It is also on top of the money you get for consumables and equipment. For example, say you want a new $500,000 next generation sequencer – you get the grant to cover this and then the federal government tops this up with the overhead. Then you apply for a research project to employ a post doc and two PhD students to use the machine for research into something that uses the sequencer. Their salaries and stipends (plus direct overheads) and consumables to actually do the research are covered in the grant – which then has the overhead applied. You see where this goes?
Maybe it is hard for a man to understand something, if his employment depends …
Auto [who is not at all original].
All of those expenses are already included in the base. They are not considered overhead.
I’m with W.M. Briggs on this:
The Case For Ending Government Funding of Science
I don’t understand why we need to fund climate research at all. The science is settled. There is nothing more to be learned about it. Why do research when we know everything already?
The science is far less settled than the ecoactivists would like you to believe, whether we should be funding it is another matter.
I can substantiate this from personal experience. Over the 80’s and 90’s I got a similar amount to Willis in grants from the Pentagon at Rutgers U to develop supercomputer architectures. Standard overhead charge: 50%. Value added by the bureaucracy: approximately doubled the cost of any equipment we bought.
I assume that most if not all of the sports coaches salries are paid for out of sports revenue … football being the largest … usually the football team funds ALL of the other sports as well …
Why downvote this? It’s true.
When I worked at Yale 35 years ago they were charging (IIRC) 68% overhead on federal research grants. There was an action by the federal government at the time to review the overhead rates at Yale and other universities. No wrongdoing was alleged but I believe the rate was cut down somewhat (maybe to only 60%?).
Research was (and is) a money-maker for universities. Researchers are expected to fully support themselves from their grants, with the university taking its cut off the top.
I assume universities provide some kind of detailed accounting to support their negotiated rates, but I have never seen one and I suspect these are not audited very closely.
I got my BS and MS in mechanical engineering at Purdue, in the late 1970s and early 1980s. One of my favorite professors was disgusted with the place, and among his chief complaints was the research overhead. It was, even then, 63%. I can’t imagine what it is now. (I still love the university.)
They’re climatologists (like ‘scientologists’ but with less ‘science’), they shouldn’t be using air conditioning anyway! Are they trying to destroy the planet?
Posted a link on X, but I don’t have any followers.
Thanks, Jeff, appreciated. I can only encourage folks to post about my unjust censorship by some devout Muslim.
w.
Why wouldn’t university research be limited to the same requirements and financial management and overhead as any other government contractor?
Nine out of the top ten paid people at Texas A&M are sports coaches? Are American universities places of learning or just a big joke of some kind?
American universities are leftwing indoctrination centers now. It’s not a joke, unfortunately.
This focus is too narrow. People “pick-on” sports because it’s so visible. Because so many people have an interest in it. All kinds of people make ridiculous amounts of money for doing useless things but no one notices. How many people in the USA, do you think make more than the President?