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October 27, 2024 2:35 am

The atmospheric models rely on the concepts of energy illustrated below. These are from the documentation for the ERA5 reanalysis model. It’s not for prediction of future climate states, but for capturing measured properties and applying them to a computed system.

The climate system response to incremental non-condensing GHGs cannot be investigated without these basics.

I have been posting about energy conversion because the computed values illustrate how pointless it is to worry about the incremental radiative absorbing power of rising concentrations of GHGs in the atmosphere.

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Total column vertically-integrated energy conversion
Unit W m-2
Description
This parameter is one contribution to the amount of energy being converted between kinetic energy, and internal plus potential energy, for a column of air extending from the surface of the Earth to the top of the atmosphere. Negative values indicate a conversion to kinetic energy from potential plus internal energy.

This parameter can be used to study the atmospheric energy budget. The circulation of the atmosphere can also be considered in terms of energy conversions.
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Total column vertically-integrated potential + internal energy
Unit J m-2
Description
This parameter is the mass weighted vertical integral of potential and internal energy for a column of air extending from the surface of the Earth to the top of the atmosphere.

The potential energy of an air parcel is the amount of work that would have to be done, against the force of gravity, to lift the air to that location from mean sea level. Internal energy is the energy contained within a system i.e., the microscopic energy of the air molecules, rather than the macroscopic energy associated with, for example, wind, or gravitational potential energy.

This parameter can be used to study the atmospheric energy budget.

Total atmospheric energy is made up of internal, potential, kinetic and latent energy.
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This short time-lapse video I have been posting makes the point. Please read the full text description, which I will also paste in a reply below. Questions welcome.
https://youtu.be/hDurP-4gVrY

Reply to  David Dibbell
October 27, 2024 2:38 am

Are CO2 emissions a risk to the climate? No. The static “warming” effect of incremental CO2 (~4 W/m^2 for 2XCO2) disappears as kinetic energy (wind) is converted to/from internal energy (including temperature) + potential energy (altitude).

This time lapse video shows the daily minimum, median, and maximum values of the computed “vertical integral of energy conversion” hourly parameter from the ERA5 reanalysis for 2022. Values for each 1/4 degree longitude gridpoint at 45N latitude are given. The vertical scale is from -10,000 to +10,000 W/m^2. The minor incremental radiative absorbing power of non-condensing GHGs such as CO2, CH4, and N2O vanishes on the vertical scale as the rapidly changing energy conversion in both directions is tens to thousands of times greater.

So what? The assumed GHG “forcings” cannot be isolated for reliable attribution of reported surface warming. And with all the circulation and energy conversion throughout the depth of the troposphere, heat energy need not be expected to accumulate on land and in the oceans to harmful effect from incremental non-condensing GHGs. The GHGs add no energy to the land + ocean + atmosphere system. Therefore the radiative properties of CO2, CH4, and N2O, and other molecules of similar nature, should not be assumed to produce a perturbing climate “forcing.” The concept of energy conversion helps us understand the self-regulating delivery of energy to high altitude for just enough longwave radiation to be emitted to space.

References:
The ERA5 reanalysis model is a product of ECMWF, the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts. The computed parameters “vertical integral of potential + internal energy” and “vertical integral of energy conversion” are described at these links.
https://codes.ecmwf.int/grib/param-db/?id=162061
https://codes.ecmwf.int/grib/param-db/?id=162064

Further comment:
This is for just one latitude band at 45N. Similar results were observed for 45S, 10N/S, 23.5N/S, and 66N/S.

More Background:
From Edward N. Lorenz (1960) “Energy and Numerical Weather Prediction”
https://doi.org/10.3402/tellusa.v12i4.9420

“2. Energy, available potential energy, and
gross static stability
Of the various forms of energy present in
the atmosphere, kinetic energy has often
received the most attention. Often the total
kinetic energy of a weather system is regarded
as a measure of its intensity. The only other
forms of atmospheric energy which appear
to play a major role in the kinetic energy
budget of the troposphere and lower stratosphere
are potential energy, internal energy, and the
latent energy of water vapor. Potential and
internal energy may be transformed directly
into kinetic energy, while latent energy may
be transformed directly into internal energy,
which is then transformed into kinetic energy.
It is easily shown by means of the hydrostatic
approximation that the changes of the
potential energy P and the internal energy l of
the whole atmosphere are approximately proportional,
so that it is convenient to regard
potential and internal energy as constituting
a single form of energy. This form has been
called total potential energy by Margules (1903).

In the long run, there must be a net depletion
of kinetic energy by dissipative processes. It
follows that there must be an equal net
generation of kinetic energy by reversible
adiabatic processes; this generation must occur
at the expense of total potential energy. It
follows in turn that there must be an equal net
generation of total potential energy by heating
of all kinds. These three steps comprise the
basic energy cycle of the atmosphere. The
rate at which these steps proceed is a fundamental
characteristic of the general circulation.”

Reply to  David Dibbell
October 27, 2024 12:07 pm

Balloon data analysis shows that the energy gradient wrt to molecular density is absolutely linear.. altered only by H2O in the lower atmosphere.

This precludes any effect from CO2.

https://youtu.be/XfRBr7PEawY?t=1410

Reply to  David Dibbell
October 27, 2024 5:02 am

When you can replicate radiosonde time evolution over tropical ocean warm pools you will have a good grasp of the temperature regulation process that controls the amount of energy entering the climate system.

And a hint is that most OLR leaves the tropical atmosphere via ice.

And questions. What is the meaning of the dew point temperature? If ice particles are present, are they influencing the dew point?

One certainty is the only role of added carbon in the atmosphere with regard the radiation balance is its contribution the atmospheric mass.

Reply to  RickWill
October 27, 2024 6:15 am

No disagreement with your devotion to the tropics and the “temperature regulation process.” About questions – I meant questions related more directly to what I posted.

Scissor
Reply to  RickWill
October 27, 2024 6:56 am

Yes, water weighs most heavily on all of this.

strativarius
October 27, 2024 2:42 am

Who is Donald Trump? All we hear over here is he is Adolf reincarnated etc. So, I watched Joe Rogan’s podcast and as I suspected, he was nothing like the media’s depiction. I found him quite affable. On the subject of the vibe driven media…

A new study delving the emotional and psychological impact of climate change on 16,000 young Americans provides crucial empirical evidence for what until now “we’ve been relying on our intuition to tell us,” the study’s first author says.

His new paper, “Climate emotions, thoughts, and plans among US adolescents and young adults: a cross-sectional descriptive survey and analysis by political party identification and self-reported exposure to severe weather events,” was published Oct. 17 in The Lancet Planetary Health.
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/26102024/young-americans-distraught-over-climate-change/

How you feel trumps what you know.

David Wojick
Reply to  strativarius
October 27, 2024 3:22 am

It may be normal for a lot of young people to be very concerned over the leading causes of the time.

strativarius
Reply to  David Wojick
October 27, 2024 3:32 am

No, it’s by design. And it is criminal.

David Wojick
Reply to  strativarius
October 27, 2024 7:29 am

I do not think we disagree. Except given that they are constantly taught and told that alarmism is knowledge I do not see where feelings are trumping knowledge.

strativarius
Reply to  David Wojick
October 27, 2024 7:37 am

 constantly taught…

Indoctrinated, even. The teaching profession has well and truly morphed into classroom activism; pushing political ideologies and beliefs that chime with fashionable critical theories.

Rich Davis
Reply to  strativarius
October 27, 2024 5:11 am

It’s very ironic that Trump is called a fascist, but has not implemented any fascist policies in four years in office, while his accusers have already implemented fascist policies and advocate for more.

The puppet regime has locked us in our homes, threatened us with the loss of our livelihoods if we didn’t put an experimental gene therapy into our bodies, censored our speech, banned our free assembly and right to worship. They do everything they can to undermine free and fair elections.

But, but, but…Trump sends mean tweets.

strativarius
Reply to  Rich Davis
October 27, 2024 5:30 am

I watched the whole ‘cast. He knows his martial arts and boxing, which was a surprise to me. I’m no fan, but he clearly is. It was interesting to read the Guardian’s critique of the podcast – naturally everything was taken out of context:

In an interview in which Donald Trump said that he wants to be “a whale psychologist”, made the case for replacing income tax with tariffs and praised Confederate general Robert E Lee as a “genius”, the most striking thing about the former president’s encounter with podcaster Joe Rogan wasn’t the content as much as the length.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/26/trump-joe-rogan-interview-analysis

The discussion on Whales was with regard to offshore wind and all the recent beachings..

If Trump rambles, then Harris dribbles.
I watched the whole ‘cast. He knows his martial arts and boxing, which was a surprise to me. I’m no fan, but he clearly is. It was interesting to read the Guardian’s critique of the podcast – naturally everything was taken out of context:

In an interview in which Donald Trump said that he wants to be “a whale psychologist”, made the case for replacing income tax with tariffs and praised Confederate general Robert E Lee as a “genius”, the most striking thing about the former president’s encounter with podcaster Joe Rogan wasn’t the content as much as the length.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/26/trump-joe-rogan-interview-analysis

The discussion on Whales was with regard to offshore wind and all the recent beachings..

If Trump rambles, then Harris dribbles – just like her old boss.

Reply to  strativarius
October 27, 2024 7:52 am

praised Confederate general Robert E Lee as a “genius””

Doesn’t mean Trump admires the Confederacy. But that’s the implication.

strativarius
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
October 27, 2024 8:17 am

He admired the strategist

Eric R.
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
October 27, 2024 1:35 pm

If one was to conduct “peace studies”, preferably at the US Army War College, one would find that you can learn a lot from 19th century commanders. Lee was no less masterful than Washington during the Revolution. Also, Lee was at that time the number one loved general officer of either side. Lee was both admired and feared as Commander of the Confederation’s Army of Northern Virgina.

Reply to  Eric R.
October 27, 2024 6:58 pm

Lee graduated at the top of his class at West Point.

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
October 27, 2024 2:07 pm

If Germany named a new battle tank after Erwin Rommel, it would be because of his genius on the battlefield, not because he himself was a Nazi.

Rich Davis
Reply to  strativarius
October 27, 2024 9:20 am

Trump does The Weave ™
Commie-la does the Word Salad

Derg
Reply to  Rich Davis
October 27, 2024 9:43 am

The poor woman is in over her head indeed.

Reply to  Derg
October 28, 2024 3:41 am

WAY over her head.

Of course, if she wins, it will be the same radical Left Cabal deciding our future, that is ruining our future now. Kamala, like Joe, will be just a figurehead for the Leftwing Billionaires running the country.

Although I do attribute the Afghanistan debacle solely to Joe Biden’s appeaser mentality. Even Joe’s own people, including his own military, advised him against an abrupt pullout of Afghanistan, but Joe was having none of it. He wanted out, and he wanted out now, and he’s the president and commander-in-chief, so that’s what happened.

The man is a damn fool and always has been. Unfortunately, he got in a political position where he could do some serious damage to the United States, and that’s just what he has done.

Worst president Evah!

Reply to  strativarius
October 28, 2024 3:33 am

Trump can “ramble” for minutes at a time, and does so often, but he always comes back to the original point he was trying to make. He never forgets his place, even after minutes speaking on another subject.

Neither Biden or Kamala could do such a thing.

Drake
Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 28, 2024 5:14 am

Much like Rush did for years on his radio show.

Another brilliant mind.

strativarius
Reply to  Rich Davis
October 27, 2024 5:47 am

I replied to this. And it has disappeared.

This 18th century moderation thing is the gift that keeps on silencing.

NB Links to sources are not spam, bots or any other imaginary threat…

strativarius
Reply to  strativarius
October 27, 2024 6:07 am

And, interestingly, now the post seems to have self-duplicated itself. What on Earth is going on?

Must be the Labour government.

Reply to  strativarius
October 27, 2024 2:12 pm

I suspect it had to do with the number of links you had in one comment.
More than 3 links used to mean an automatic delay while a Mod checked them. It probably still does.

Reply to  Rich Davis
October 27, 2024 6:09 am

The puppet regime has locked us in our homes, threatened us with the loss of our livelihoods if we didn’t put an experimental gene therapy into our bodies, censored our speech, banned our free assembly and right to worship. They do everything they can to undermine free and fair elections.

Source: My little fantasy world. All we can see here is the product of years of fearmongering from the right. That trumps incites violence with his speech was clear to even the last one with a braincell after J6. Declares his political opponents as vermin and threatens to use the military against them. Endangers legal immigrants with his lies.

Has strong ties to russia, and strangely his new friend musk has too. Funny how that swamp works.

Maybe you should read about schedule F.

Even most republican politicians have seen where this leads and endorse Kamala by now.

Everyone I talk to wonders how americans can be really that stupid to make this a close race. I guess that’s why trump loves the poorly educated.

strativarius
Reply to  MyUsername
October 27, 2024 6:18 am

Have you enjoyed the societal destruction – especially of the young – by the stupidity of lockdown?

The Barrington declaration was the far better way to go, but it was censored. No, we had to be locked up.

And you are one of the cheerleaders. You have a lot of guilt on your hands, my boy. Enjoy it.

Rich Davis
Reply to  strativarius
October 27, 2024 7:50 am

I ignore Lusername as a rule. He/sh/it behaves like a bot programmed to project. Every crime that the Puppet Regime has actually committed is projected onto Trump and those with enough common sense to support him regardless of whether we like his personality.

strativarius
Reply to  Rich Davis
October 27, 2024 8:18 am

It has no compassion or empathy – Malthusian at heart.

Scissor
Reply to  MyUsername
October 27, 2024 7:07 am

Many, perhaps most democrats, and all leftists are unhinged. The following is but an example that illustrates this.

https://www.tiktok.com/@dailymail/video/7430387516441709866

strativarius
Reply to  Scissor
October 27, 2024 7:18 am

“Unhinged”

They…. believe.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Scissor
October 27, 2024 10:01 am

Any idea what that ditz was yelling about?

Reply to  MyUsername
October 27, 2024 7:54 am

“Even most republican politicians have seen where this leads and endorse Kamala by now.”

You should stop taking that bad LSD.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
October 27, 2024 10:08 am

I think the Luserbot is referring to Darth Cheney and his despicable little daughter.

Reply to  Rich Davis
October 27, 2024 12:20 pm

Those two are natural buddies of the Kamal.. Disgusting human beings, both !

Reply to  bnice2000
October 28, 2024 4:12 am

No doubt, Kamala and the other radical Democrats have nothing but contempt for Dick Cheney. They have called him every name in the book at one time or another.

But, the Democrats are more than happy to accept them as “useful idiots” if it helps the Democrats win.

I imagine Kamala has about as much contempt for Liz and she does for Dick, but Liz is useful so Kamala takes advantage.

I noticed that Kamala hardly looked at Liz Cheney while they were on the stage, and Liz didn’t look too comfortable. She neversmiled. All she was up on stage for was to tell everyone how bad a person Donald Trump was, in her opinion.

Liz got voted out of office over her stance on Trump. Her and her father must be pretty bitter to sell out the country in this way by promoting a Democrat, one-party system in the United States.

If the Democrats win this time, we may never get rid of them. They are still trying to put their leading political opponent in jail using the power of the federal government, and if they win this time, then no politician who disagrees with the radical Democrat agenda will be safe.

If they can do it to Trump, they can do it to any of us. If they can do it to Trump, it will only embolden them. It’s like trying to appease a dictator. The dictator just wants more and more and more until he has it all.

You and your dad don’t see this, Liz? You don’t see the theat that faces you and all of us? Have you been blinded by personal hate for Trump? I think therapy is called for in your case.

Reply to  Rich Davis
October 28, 2024 4:02 am

“Darth Cheney”! I like it!

Any other time, the Cheney’s would be endorsing Repubicans, but since Donald Trump didn’t talk very nice about Dick, these personal criticisms apparently trumps common sense in the Cheneys, to the point that they would put their support behind the radical Leftwing Cabal controlling and ruining this country, rather than endorse Trump.

We lose all our freedoms to these radical Democrats, but at least the Cheney’s can feel good about themselves hitting back at Trump.

Liz, you’re helping the enemies. Trump is not the enemy. The Democrats are the enemy. The enemy of the truth. You are helping enemies of the truth.

Trump speaks the truth. That’s why the radical Democrats and under-performing Republicans hate him. He exposes their weaknesses and lies to the world, and they don’t like being exposed.

Too Bad. Trump is going to tell it like it is.

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
October 27, 2024 2:27 pm

most republican politicians”?!?
He must be using “Climate Math”.

Reply to  MyUsername
October 27, 2024 8:23 am

Idiot.

Reply to  karlomonte
October 27, 2024 7:45 pm

No, a reprehensible propagandist with no scruples.

Reply to  Clyde Spencer
October 27, 2024 8:33 pm

I can’t argue against this.

Reply to  MyUsername
October 27, 2024 10:36 am

You clearly believe what they tell you to believe.

Hello, McFly, anybody in there?

Reply to  MyUsername
October 27, 2024 12:19 pm

Poor luser…Have you been taking lesson in Kamal-speak.

What is not just downright LIES and MISREPRESENTATION..

… is total gibberish word-salad.

—–

trump loves the poorly educated.”

You would be very high on that list !!

endorsements ??,
You mean democrats like Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jnr, Ruben Diaz Sr, and Rod Blagojevich ?

Reply to  bnice2000
October 27, 2024 12:31 pm

And of course another ex-Democrat who endorses Donald Trump… is Donald Trump.

He was once a democrat.. then he grew up and entered the real world and saw just how much DAMAGE the far-left, woke, deranged, depraved Democrats were doing to the world.

There are some truly disgusting people, like luser, that need and want to live in a 15 minute ghetto that is part of this the far-left, woke, deranged, depraved society…

… being controlled ever day of its pathetic life by a pack of similarly far-left, woke, deranged, depraved rulers.

The desperate need to be part of a collective, the more woke, deranged and depraved, the better.

Reply to  MyUsername
October 27, 2024 2:18 pm

Please remind us of just what Bill Clinton did to get paid $500,000 for a one hour speech in Moscow?
(Or maybe it was something Hillary did as Secretary of State before the speech?)

Rich Davis
Reply to  Gunga Din
October 27, 2024 6:00 pm

Be careful Gunga Din! Comments like that have been known to cause suicidal ideation (as with Vince Foster and Jeffrey Epstein).

Reply to  Gunga Din
October 28, 2024 4:18 am

I think it had something to do with uranium.

Reply to  MyUsername
October 27, 2024 6:35 pm

Everyone I talk to wonders how americans can be really that stupid to make this a close race. I guess that’s why trump loves the poorly educated.

Only a complete and utter moron equates education with intelligence.
All hail the great moron king!

Reply to  MyUsername
October 27, 2024 7:42 pm

Even most republican politicians have seen where this leads and endorse Kamala by now.

If that was true, then Harris should win with more than 75% of the popular vote. The polls say that is improbable. Even if Harris should win by one or two percent, then your statement is false. Do you have the intellectual integrity to acknowledge after the election that you are stating a falsehood if Harris does not win by at least a 25% margin?

Denis
Reply to  Rich Davis
October 27, 2024 8:31 am

Perhaps those who accuse him simply do not know what a fascist is. Most don’t.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Denis
October 27, 2024 9:13 am

Very much correct. As George Orwell said:

The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies ‘something not desirable’.

Mr.
Reply to  Denis
October 27, 2024 9:15 am

There is no clearer example of classic fascism than governments who collude with industrialists to forcefully control essential services and supplies at the expense and detriment of taxpayers.

Guess what I’m referring to?

I'm not a robot
Reply to  Mr.
October 27, 2024 11:08 am

Auto Industry. I hope your oblique reference was to the forced EV “transition”.

If not, that there is a good example regardless.

Mr.
Reply to  I'm not a robot
October 27, 2024 11:26 am

That’s one blatant example.
Then there’s “renewables”, mandatory ‘vaccines’, and the legacy msm in general.

Reply to  Rich Davis
October 27, 2024 10:33 am

The smartest thing American fascists ever did was to convince everyone the other guy is the fascist. They rebranded fascism from progressive into right-wing. They memory-holed their praises for Mussolini. They pretended they never admire Hitler’s command economy.

Richard Greene
Reply to  Rich Davis
October 27, 2024 1:11 pm

You are living in a conservative fantasyland

2020 was the worst year for US fascism Trump was president in 2020

Covid scaremongering
Censorship of Covid policy debate
Lockdowns
Closed schools
Travel restrictions
Trump financed drug rushed to market
Huge election fraud
Hunter Biden laptop censorship

Not all of these were directly cause by Trump, but presidents always get blamed for everything bad that happened when they were president.

The Covid bailouts financed by huge federal budget deficits in 2020 and 2021 were signed off by Trump, NOT Biden. Biden did not cause the high inflation rate in 2021 and 2022, but takes the blame.

Vaccinations in the United States began on December 14, 2020 while Trump was president. They were not mandatory at first but Covid propaganda by Fauci and Birx scared people into taking them. Fauci and Birx were Trump employees.

Reply to  Richard Greene
October 27, 2024 2:14 pm

Richard; you ignorant slut…

Richard Greene
Reply to  Fraizer
October 27, 2024 3:04 pm

Brilliant comment
Print it
Have it framed
Send it to your mother.

Reply to  Richard Greene
October 27, 2024 4:15 pm

But at least half true.

You are definitely a VERY IGNORANT little person.

Reply to  Richard Greene
October 27, 2024 2:36 pm

Fauci:
5th Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
In office
November 2, 1984 – December 31, 2022

Birx:
United States Special Representative for Global Health Diplomacy
In office
January 20, 2015[a] – January 20, 2021

Richard Greene
Reply to  Gunga Din
October 27, 2024 3:05 pm

Tell us who gave Fauci and Birx a huge amount of face time on TV to spout non science guesses about Covid designed to create fear. It was Trump.

Reply to  Richard Greene
October 27, 2024 4:10 pm

I was once aghast at Trump’s apparent disdain for the ‘expert’ Fauci, but as time gradually revealed the depth of Fauci’s deceit and lies, I came to marvel at the fact that Trump had him sussed from a very early stage.

Reply to  Richard Greene
October 28, 2024 4:39 am

And what would you have done under the circumstances, Richard?

How many pandemics have you been through?

Why should we give credence to your criticisms?

What did you know about anyone in the medical community before the pandemic hit? Who do you trust? How do you know? You seem to have all the answers. Let’s have some.

What should Trump have done differently?

Hindsight is 20/20. It’s the Foresight that is hard.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Richard Greene
October 27, 2024 5:50 pm

You are deranged Richard. The Deep State orchestrated all of that to steal the 2020 election. The worst you can accuse Trump of is not having enough information in time to circumvent the concerted effort of the vested interests hell-bent on getting rid of him.

Reply to  Richard Greene
October 28, 2024 4:29 am

“The Covid bailouts financed by huge federal budget deficits in 2020 and 2021 were signed off by Trump, NOT Biden. Biden did not cause the high inflation rate in 2021 and 2022, but takes the blame.”

Trump did do a lot of spending. Trump was spending money to keep businesses from going under and to give paychecks to people who were temporarily out of a job because of covid.

Trump’s spending probably amounts to about 25 percent of the inflation we currently see. Biden did sign off on huge spending bills after he got into office and is certainly responsible for the majority of the inflation we see.

On top of that, Biden has increased energy costs to all Americans with his stupid Net Zero climate change policies, so include this inflation on Biden’s watch, too.

Trump’s plan to lower inflation centers on lowering the cost of energy. The energy that affects the price of just about everything.

I think Biden should get most of the blame for inflation and our current economic situation.

If Trump had not spent the money he spent, the U.S. economy would have been in much worse shape. As it was, when Trump left office, the Stock Market was higher than before the covid pandemic hit and 500,000 jobs were reported in Trump’s last quarter in office. Biden promptly took credit for the 500,000 jobs number after he took office in Jan. 2021, even though he wasn’t even in office at the time. That’s how blatatant a liar, Joe Biden is.

Rick C
Reply to  Rich Davis
October 27, 2024 4:17 pm

And now he’s also Mussolini, Stalin, Mao, Pol-pot, Genius Kahn and Attila the Hun. I guess Hitler alone just isn’t evil enough to compare to Trump. Meanwhile back at the extreme green headquarters their trying to figure out how they can reduce the human global population by ~ 7.5 billion by 2100.

Reply to  Rich Davis
October 28, 2024 3:28 am

“It’s very ironic that Trump is called a fascist, but has not implemented any fascist policies in four years in office, while his accusers have already implemented fascist policies and advocate for more.”

This is called hypocrisy.

The Democrats practice authoritarianism and to distract everyone, they claim it is the Republicans who are the authoritarians.

It other words, the Democrats are Liars and you can’t believe a word they say. They lie when the truth would sound better.

Yes, if Trump had an inclination to be a dictator, he had the perfect opportunity to be one during his first term. Instead, Trump transferred his political power to the Democrats as is called for by the U.S. Constitution.

It’s not dictatorial if all you do is complain about how the 2020 election was handled. If Trump had been a real dictator, there would have been no 2020 election. Trump would have initiated Marial Law after the Covid Pandemic hit, and we would still be under Martial Law now.

But we are not under Martial Law, now are we.

The Democrats are Liars. Don’t vote for Liars.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 28, 2024 6:49 am

1986 was the last time I voted for any Democrat (county DA, the guy turned out to be a disaster) — I don’t vote for them as a matter of policy, doesn’t matter who they are.

Reply to  karlomonte
October 30, 2024 2:29 am

Yeah, even if you get a reasonable Democrat running for office, if they win, then that helps the radical Democrats who control Washington DC, and wish to control all our lives.

So electing any Democrat to a national office is a danger to everyone’s personal freedoms, even the Democrat voter. Oh! You thought you would get a break because you are a Democrat? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Fooled you, didn’t they!

Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 30, 2024 8:09 am

Here in deep-purple Jefferson County CO, there is just about zero enthusiasm for Kackles & Co., very few signs out. One exception is a house a half-mile down the street where they just erected a giant Kackles flag on the lawn. The style is stolen from Trump 2024 flags, same typeface, but instead of blue or red, the background is this disgusting lavender. Instead of “MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN”, the bottom line is “SAVE DEMOCRACY”.

This from the bunch that puts their political opponents in prison, absolutely sickening.

Caddy-corner across the street is an old rainbow BLM sign, people still push this hoax. Like wearing a sign on the forehead that says: “I AM STUPID”.

The Colorado democrats just enacted another legislative success—a ban on selling eggs that are not “cage-free”. The instant overnight result? Supermarkets lost 2/3 of their supply of chicken eggs, instant shortage.

Democrats — Making the World Safe for Chickens

Sickening.

Reply to  strativarius
October 27, 2024 6:18 am

The Donald is actually rather ordinary when not engaging in all our bare knuckle brawls with the lamestream media or insane libtards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwQil7tcImI (“Manhood Is Under ATTACK!” Why Donald Trump Keeps Fighting For America | Maintaining with Tyrus)
Tyrus really drills down to Trump’s giving, charity and his real persona which he does not like to talk about. Then there is this amazing video, by Bryson Dechambeau, playing a round of golf with Trump to try to break 50, and raising money for charity. The amazing thing is you get to see the real Donald in the mundane chatter and his rather good game of golf for being rather old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rb9b8rYhII (Can I Break 50 With President Donald Trump?)

strativarius
Reply to  D Boss
October 27, 2024 7:06 am

He’s a bloke you can talk with

Reply to  strativarius
October 27, 2024 12:23 pm

If you learnt how to cackle inanely, you could possibly converse with the Kamal.

strativarius
Reply to  bnice2000
October 27, 2024 1:14 pm

I think I’ll pass on that, thanks

Reply to  strativarius
October 27, 2024 4:16 pm

RG would be in his element, though.

Scissor
Reply to  strativarius
October 27, 2024 7:02 am

The name Hitler has such a negative connotation. If Trump really were Hitler, major newspapers like LA Times, Washington Post, major unions, like teamsters, etc., would disavow him. He’s not Hitler and dem lies to the contrary point to who are the real fascist wannabes.

strativarius
Reply to  Scissor
October 27, 2024 7:07 am

All these wars began with senile Joe

Scissor
Reply to  strativarius
October 27, 2024 7:12 am

I admire RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard for coming around to recognize our greatest threats. The the healthcare and climate industrial complexes have joined to military industrial complex in milking and plundering us to death.

abolition man
Reply to  strativarius
October 27, 2024 7:24 am

The best modern comparison to Hitler might well be Ancel Keys; the main promoter of the diet/heart hypothesis, that has NEVER been proven in the scientific studies yet somehow was enthusiastically adopted by the NIH, the AMA, and the American Heart Association!
This hypothesis; that dietary fat was the main culprit in the development of CHD, has never been adequately demonstrated in experiments; but it’s acceptance by the American medical establishment directly proceeded the rapid rise of obesity and diabetes that have reached epidemic proportions in the US, and are spreading like wildfire around the globe!
Keys; or Health Hitler, as I like to think of him, employed ad hominem attacks against his critics and anyone who dared to question the dangers of saturated fat, or voiced concerns about highly refined carbohydrates being a danger! Now, over 50 years later, the evidence is becoming irrefutable that carbohydrates are the main culprit in development of the metabolic syndrome that leads to obesity, diabetes and numerous other chronic diseases! Millions of patients have been maimed, tortured and killed by the medical industrial complex, while a simple dietary change to a low carb/ketogenic diet could have alleviated or CURED their illnesses!
Medical and nutritional science are so evil and destructive that they almost make CAGW alarmist science look lily-white by comparison, and that is almost impossible!

David Goeden
Reply to  abolition man
October 27, 2024 10:43 am

In 1972 John Yudkin’s book Pure, White and Deadly raised sound scientific reasons why sucrose was the real dietary problem causer. Yudkin’s scientific peers, the sugar industry and governments, aka the establishment consensus, fought against this. The harm to millions of people is still ongoing today as evidenced by the developed world type 2 diabetes epidemic.

Reply to  strativarius
October 27, 2024 8:29 am
Reply to  strativarius
October 27, 2024 8:32 am

Democrat NYC mayor Eric Adams has had enough of the “Trump is Adolf H.” propaganda:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/embattled-democratic-mayor-eric-adams-defends-trump-refutes/

He dared to leave the reservation so the gestapo DoJ indicted him.

Reply to  karlomonte
October 28, 2024 4:48 am

Mayor Adams spoke out against Biden’s immigration policy publicly and next thing you know, the Biden Department of “Justice” is raiding Adams and taking his phones and raiding his associates and is indicting him.

See what you get when you speak out again the Democrats.

Now, who is acting like Hitler?

Reply to  strativarius
October 28, 2024 3:16 am

“Who is Donald Trump? All we hear over here is he is Adolf reincarnated etc.”

For decades, every Republican leader has been called Hitler or a Facist. As an aside: Does Kamala even know what a Facists is?

The Left called Goldwater a Nazi. They called Reagan a nazi. They called Bush 41 and 43 nazis. And they call Donald Trump a nazi. Do you see the trend here? The radical Left tries to make every Republican leader out to be a Nazi. If Ron DeSantis had won the Republican nomination, the radical Left would be calling him a nazi right now.

But Donald Trump is in a different category. The radical Left has spent all their efforts over the years since Trump came down the escalator in 2015 in demonizing Trump and creating a False Reality around him that completely distorts the truth (their aim) and they present this caracature as the real Donald Trump.

The difference between Trump and previous Republican leaders is Trump is going up against a News Media that is 90 percent radical Left, and the radical Left has all the money in the world, thanks to radical Leftwing Billionaires, so they have turned the demonization of Trump up to 11.

But even that much effort doesn’t seem to harm Trump with the People.

The Democrats are going to have to cheat real effectively if they are to win this time around.

I just heard my U.S. Senator, Mark Wayne Mullin, say that he thought there was a 100 percent chance that Republicans will control the U.S. Senate after the election, and may get as many as 54 or 55 seats in the 100 member body.

October 27, 2024 4:11 am

story tip

      World Bank ‘Misplaces’ $41 Billion in Climate Change Funds –
      Oxfam Investigation finds: ‘No clear public record showing
      where this money went or how it was used’

Climate Depot

Scissor
Reply to  Steve Case
October 27, 2024 7:20 am

Eight billion people in the world for want of an honest auditor.

E. Schaffer
October 27, 2024 5:29 am

It is amazing how the “critical side” is totally asleep, not realizing how bad “consensus science” actually is. Here is another exhibit: CO2 forcing.

He have for instance Schmidt et al 2010 giving the CO2 at 339ppm.

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https://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2010/2010_Schmidt_sc05400j.pdf

To read this properly: it means 14% (net) and 24.6% (gross) contribution to a GHE of 155W/m2. This translates to 21.7W/m2 and 38.1W/m2 respectively. What actually counts here is the net figure btw.

This is perfectly fine and the estimate can be reproduced in modtran for instance. You can play it through with different concentrations of CO2 and check what the respective forcing is. That procedure has given us lots of not-so-smart charts like the one below, emphasizing the (undisputed) “saturation” effect..

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One could do this a lot smarter, by simply using a logarithmic scale. Since CO2 forcing is in itself a largely logarithmic function, that should give a straight line. Moreover, as it turns into a straight line, any data point on that line will also define its slope.

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At 339ppm the CO2 forcing here is 20.5W/m2, a little less than the 21.7W/m2 in S2010, because of slightly different model parameters. Still, it is totally consistent. The problem is about the slope. Doubling CO2 will only yield a forcing 2.15W/m2 in this instance, or 2.28W/m2 with the exact S2010 estimate. In no way you could argue some 3.7W/m2, or more, because that is producing a “hockey stick”.

It turns out some of the most elite “climate scientists” have not realized the implicit contradiction in their CO2 forcing theory..

https://greenhousedefect.com/unboxing-the-black-box

Robert Cutler
Reply to  E. Schaffer
October 27, 2024 8:15 am

It’s a good thing that CO2 forcing is saturated because when when you compute the frequency response between CO2 concentrations and temperature you find that [CO2] lags temperature by six months (except at 0.75 and 1 year^-1), and that over 10-year periods the sensitivity is 4.9 ppm/°C. For seasonal variations the CO2 lags temperature by a little over 0.1 year.

A positive phase slope would have indicated that CO2 forcing dominated temperature increases.

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E. Schaffer
Reply to  Robert Cutler
October 27, 2024 1:52 pm

It is not about “saturation”

CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  E. Schaffer
October 27, 2024 8:27 am

I am not a scientist. However, if I understand the saturation effect correctly, it should be damaging enough (all by itself) to all but close down and end the climate alarmist narrative. I find it not at all surprising that it seems to have been suppressed and ignored in the alarmist camp (including the IPCC?) considering how damaging it is to the narrative. I say this even if much of the CO2 rise actually does come from us humans.

This climate scare has to be one of most massive frauds committed on the world’s people in human history. That the world’s governments are part of it (if indeed they all are) makes it all the worse. To me, this is inconsistent with the way democratic governments should behave and relate to the people who put them in office.

E. Schaffer
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
October 27, 2024 1:53 pm

It is not about “saturation”

Mr Ed
October 27, 2024 9:34 am

I got a link to this piece on Kamala Harris and her background=============>

https://www.frontpagemag.com/kamala-was-raised-in-hate/

Lots of things I was not aware of. Such as her fathers involvement with
the creation of the Black Panthers, and the Watts riots. The activities
I was personally involved with when very young shaped who I became. I
was blessed to have spent time on my grandparents farm learning about
nature, being shown how to fish and ride a pony. Later doing field work
such as picking and stacking hay bales, raising calves and such. Kamala’s
background shown in this article I found alarming and am not surprised to
see how the media has not reported this at all.

Reply to  Mr Ed
October 27, 2024 12:33 pm

She grew up in Canada.

Mr Ed
Reply to  doonman
October 27, 2024 1:49 pm

From the article—-“Kamala has recalled coming “down the stairs of her childhood house in Berkeley to see FREE BOBBY carved in wet cement, after the Black Panther leader Bobby Seale was arrested.”

Reply to  Mr Ed
October 28, 2024 7:00 pm

She was a child in Berkeley. She grew up in Canada.

Mr Ed
Reply to  doonman
October 28, 2024 8:32 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_and_career_of_Kamala_Harris

Kamala Devi Harris was born in Oakland, California, 1964 to biologist Shyamala Gopalan and economist Donald J. Harris. The Harris family moved to various locations in the Midwestern United States from 1966 to 1970, when she moved back to California. At the age of twelve, she moved to MontrealQuebec, where she attended school through her first year of college. She then attended Howard University and the University of California College of the Law, San Francisco.

October 27, 2024 9:50 am

Posted this on my Facebook page:

California Senate Bill No. 1174
Approved by Governor & Filed with Secretary of State September 29, 2024

SEC. 2. Section 10005 is added to the Elections Code, to read:
10005. A local government shall not enact or enforce any charter provision, ordinance, or regulation requiring a person to present identification for the purpose of voting or submitting a ballot at any polling place, vote center, or other location where ballots are cast or submitted, unless required by state or federal law. For the purpose of this section, “local government” means any charter or general law city, charter or general law county, or any city and county.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240SB1174

Reply to  Steve Case
October 27, 2024 12:31 pm

Badges? Wee done need no steeking badges.

Reply to  doonman
October 27, 2024 8:37 pm

“Vote early, vote often!”

Westfieldmike
October 27, 2024 10:00 am

This has been going on for years, God it’s boring.

October 27, 2024 11:27 am

Kamala Harris changes her mind a lot. Here are some of Harris’ flip flops on national issues.

Fracking

What she said then: “There’s no question I’m in favor of banning fracking.” (in 2019)

What she says now: “I will not ban fracking. I have not banned fracking as vice president of the United States.” (in 2024)

Border security

What she said then: “An undocumented immigrant is not a criminal.” (in 2017)

What she says now: “We have laws that have to be followed and enforced that address and deal with people who cross our border illegally. And there should be a consequence.” (in 2024)

Health care

What she said then: “In America, health care should be a right, not a privilege only for those who can afford it. It’s why we need ‘Medicare for All.’ ” (in 2017)

What she says now: “I absolutely support … private health care options. But what we need to do is maintain and grow the Affordable Care Act.” (in 2024)

Defunding the police

What she said then: “This whole movement is about rightly saying we need to take a look at these budgets and figure out whether it reflects the right priorities.” (in 2020)

What she says now: “The only candidate running for president who has ever advocated for defunding the police or proposed cutting funding for law enforcement is convicted felon Donald Trump.” (in 2024)

Mandatory gun buybacks

What she said then: “I support a mandatory buyback program. It’s got to be smart; we have to do it the right way.” (in 2019)

What she says now: “We’re not taking anybody’s guns away.” (in 2024)

Rich Davis
Reply to  doonman
October 27, 2024 11:42 am

Kamala Harris changes her mind STORY a lot.

Fixed it

Reply to  Rich Davis
October 27, 2024 2:16 pm

Kamala Harris changes has her mind STORY changed for her a lot.

Reply to  doonman
October 27, 2024 12:26 pm

When you only have two brain cells, It is easy to be binary.

Then just flip back whenever you want.

David Wojick
October 27, 2024 12:30 pm

Trump’s 3 hour interview with Rogan is making waves. For example:
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/whale-psychiatry-life-on-mars-and-survival-trump-sits-for-wide-ranging-three-hour-interview-with-podcast-king-joe-rogan/

Trump often says things that seem odd but turn out to mean a lot. Whale harassment is the issue and being harassed is an adverse mental condition, which like many such can induce deadly behavior. The pro-wind folks keep talking about autopsy results which misses the mental point entirely, possibly purposefully. But then refusing to understand is also a mental condition.

Mental health and psychiatry are exactly right for whales. It is all about stress.

Reply to  David Wojick
October 28, 2024 4:55 am

I guess the Democrats don’t care how the whales feel. They probably mistreat their dogs, too.

If I try to figure out what my dogs are thinking, does that make me a dog psychologist?

Russell Cook
October 27, 2024 12:37 pm

As the old WWII saying goes (or variations thereof), “When you are getting close to the target, you will get exponentially more flak.” I thought the headline article below by the CAGW believers at E&ENews was rather amusing in that regard. Somebody sure is getting worked up about some entity sniffing around on how the Oregon County of Multnomah v Exxon lawsuit was assembled. If E&ENews was an honest journalism site instead of being a CAGW propaganda site, they’d turn their concern around 180° and ask why there are so many fundamental political accusation faults found within that lawsuit.

GOP-linked firm gathers info on people suing the oil industry. It won’t say why.

Reply to  Russell Cook
October 27, 2024 4:21 pm

Yep, keep a list of them..

… then out them for their totally hypocrisy as they continue to use oil derived products.

If they are state based, get the judge to deny them the use of oil derived products…

… and pay recompense for all the oil they have used over the last X years.

October 27, 2024 5:53 pm

We need a Billboard showing there is no Climate Crisis. 0.07 F/yr warming and the 0.1 inch/yr sea level rise along with some facts: Earth is getting greener, it was warmer in the Middle Ages, and the Roman Period, Cold Kills, Glaciers started melting 450 years ago after the little ice age, etc.

October 28, 2024 5:05 am

I see a lot of rebuilt cars, mainly 1950’s models, sporting fender skirts and continental kits (tires strapped to the rear bumper) and sunvisors mounted on the outside of the windshield.

I’m not sure when or why these things became popular to put on rebuilt cars nowadays, but I lived during the 1950’s, and in my neck of the woods, very few people had these accessories on their cars. If a person got a car with fender skirts on it, they were removed immediately.

This was not a fad during the 1950’s. Somehow it has become a fad today. I don’t like the look of any of the three of them. And I really don’t like the low-riders that drag the ground. I don’t know why people think that’s cool. It looks like an accident waiting to happen to me.

I do like those 1950’s cars, though. That’s what I grew up on. I guess that’s why.

October 30, 2024 4:47 am

Jeez Louise, I just saw an ad, “Upgrade to the refrigerator with four types of ice”