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strativarius
October 20, 2024 2:14 am

Kindness, tolerance and respect. In actuality, malice, bigotry and contempt.

The latest big idea in academia

Black academics told being ‘nice’ perpetuates ‘white supremacy’
Study says they adopt behaviours ‘palatable to white groups’ rather than using their position to challenge racism

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/19/black-academics-told-nice-perpetuates-white-supremacy/

Just when you think they can’t get any more absurd they do.

James Snook
Reply to  strativarius
October 20, 2024 2:36 am

Interesting that the author of the piece appears to dye her hair blond.

strativarius
Reply to  James Snook
October 20, 2024 2:48 am

A clear cut case of cultural appropriation…

Reply to  strativarius
October 20, 2024 4:49 am

So, if I stop being nice and start being nasty, I may identify as an ethnic minority for the handouts and the race card?

Got it.

Reply to  Redge
October 20, 2024 12:25 pm

It is a extremely racist suggestion isn’t it !.

Putting down her own race, while pretending she is white… disgusting.

Scissor
Reply to  strativarius
October 20, 2024 6:17 am

It could be that the West is being intentionally set up for racial strife. In the U.S., conflicts in black communities from “migrants” are growing. There is no way that a protective government would allow this to occur, along with all of the human and drug trafficking that is happening.

The number of drug overdose deaths per year in the U.S. are equivalent to about 2 Vietnam wars.

Reply to  Scissor
October 20, 2024 7:12 am

It could be that the West is being intentionally set up for racial strife.’

With all due respect, there’s nothing conditional about what the Left is up to, and their arsenal includes many more weapons than ‘race’, whatever that is.

Scissor
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
October 20, 2024 8:06 am

Reality tends to stomp out the optimist in us all.

Reply to  Frank from NoVA
October 20, 2024 10:44 am

“Race” is an archaic 19th century concept. Modern DNA science shows there is one race, the human race.

Differences in the amount of melanin in a human’s skin is the result of natural selection, how close your ancestors were living to the equator.

Only race hustlers who exploit tribalism care about the amount of melanin that any human has.

Reply to  doonman
October 21, 2024 7:33 am

There is DNA difference between an Irish ginger and a native American, your DNA can even be analysed to map your original roots.

Reply to  doonman
October 21, 2024 7:40 pm

Now do dogs. Do they share more than they have differences?

Reply to  niceguy12345
October 22, 2024 9:02 am

Well yes they are all one single species: Canis lupus familiaris, yet there are hundreds of dog races.

0perator
Reply to  strativarius
October 20, 2024 8:57 am

What do they say about replacing batteries in smoke detectors?

observa
Reply to  strativarius
October 20, 2024 7:44 pm

Look we know Kamala is a stupid unelected Dem puppet and can’t string two logical thoughts together but Trump could be batshit crazy folks-
‘How sane is he?’ Larry Sabato casts doubt on ‘unhinged’ Trump’s election hopes (msn.com)
Obviously thinking folks in universities have to vote against white supremacy here as Kamala is being too nice to call it unlike noted political scientist Larry.

observa
Reply to  observa
October 20, 2024 7:59 pm

PS: As you were folks as it seems Kamala has seen the light and is casting off white supremacy-
Kamala Harris abandons Joe Biden as presidential election nears (msn.com)

Reply to  observa
October 21, 2024 7:41 pm

https://x.com/duty2warn is a gem

“The evidence for dementia in Donald Trump has become overwhelming.

Coeur de Lion
October 20, 2024 2:35 am

Michael Mann has been elected to the Royal Society. Some years ago the RS issued a collective statement about ‘climate change’ thus defeating the 1660 ‘nullius in verba’. 43 members objected and it was withdrawn. Now, given the transcript of the Steyn court case, Steyn’s book A Disgrace to the Profession and Andrew Montford’s The Hockey Stick Illusion plus innumerable nasties on line, where are the objectors today? I’m afraid we have lost the battle and the RS and UK will sink giggling below the waves.

Coeur de Lion
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
October 20, 2024 5:48 am

So the President of the Royal Society believes there has been a sharp rise in global temperature since the Industrial Revolution. There you go. What happened to the LIA? Oh, Mann got rid of that, also the MWP.

Reply to  Coeur de Lion
October 20, 2024 4:55 am

Prince Charles was elected to the Magic Circle for performing a trick and Michael Mann was elected to the Royal Society for performing a trick, but Devine Brown missed out on the Hall of Fame for performing her trick on Hugh Grant.

Is that because Charlie and Mickey are white males and Devine is a black female?

billev
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
October 20, 2024 1:20 pm

The notion that Atmospheric CO2 at 1/25th of one percent of atmosphere is driving the Earth’s temperature and climate supplants the flat Earth theory as the stupidest scientific notion ever proposed.

Reply to  billev
October 20, 2024 3:24 pm

Hard to understand (as least for me), there has beeb a resurgence in subscribers to the flat Earth nonsense in recent years.

Reply to  billev
October 21, 2024 7:51 pm

“But it has an amplifying effect on other gases” say every clown who doesn’t realize that it would make the climate fundamentally hot-instable: any temporary warming of the atmosphere would be a runaway phenomenon.

David Wojick
October 20, 2024 3:11 am

My latest on making AI useful.

AI’s key role in science education — grade level search
By David Wojick
https://www.cfact.org/2024/10/15/ais-key-role-in-science-education-grade-level-search/

Major highlights: 
“A fundamental change in K-12 science education has created a huge opportunity for large language models. Not today’s models but reasonable adaptations of them. Students now mostly do research investigations so they need to look a lot of stuff up, stuff they can understand. This is hard because today’s search engine cannot do grade level search, but LLM’s should be able to if properly designed.

First a bit of background. What is taught in American public school science education from kindergarten through high school (K-12) is specified by what are called science standards. The standards say what topics will be taught at each grade level, as it is called. These levels are typically kindergarten, grades 1 through 5, plus middle and high school, making 8 levels. 

Standards used to be knowledge based, specifying in detail what basic scientific facts the student should learn. But over the last 10 years a new set of standards have taken over called the Next Generation Science Standards (NGSS). These standards are activity based so they instead specify investigations that the student must undertake. What they learn depends on what they find.”

“Each of these tasks typically involves looking up a lot of stuff. But how does, say, a third grader find information on static electricity that is written at their grade level? Pretty much everything that a regular search on static electricity will return will assume a lot more knowledge than a typical third grader has. Here is where AI large language models could be a great help because each grade level is also a language level. AI can be trained to recognize and deliver material written at a given grade level.”

“Grade levels are specific technical language communities. Students know the technical terms they have been taught but not the ones they have yet to be taught. Mind you we would like to do without political bias in searches and that is something the States might be able to insist on, as they have done pretty well with textbooks. There are roughly 50 million K-12 students in America which is a lot of potential users for an AI grade level search system. It would sure help them out under NGSS.”

Lots more in the article including NGSS samples. Please share it.

We need to make AI useful.

Reply to  David Wojick
October 20, 2024 1:55 pm

I don’t think a third grader is going to get much beyond the idea that in a cold dry climate you risk shocks from the build-up of static electricity on metal surfaces which are liable to discharge painfully if you bring a pointy object up close. Bright teenage students might be able to cope with Feynman’s exposition: an early introduction to calculus is a great help. It has the advantage that there is no need to unlearn parts of it later.

Reply to  David Wojick
October 20, 2024 5:59 pm

Hello David!
RE: The late John Daly’s website: “Still Waiting for Greenhouse”.

I’m really curious to learn about your relationship to John Daly. Were you friends?
I read you essay, which you wrote over 20 years ago. What were the circumstances that lead to your essay being placed on the website?

I often instruct commenters to go the website and check out the “Station Temperature Data”. In particular I instruct them to obtain the temperature graphic for Death Valley, because it falsifies the hypothesis that CO2 causes global warming.

If everybody learned about John Daly’s website, all this AGW, global warming and climate change nonsense would vanish overnight.

Perhaps you should write short review of the website and post it here.

October 20, 2024 3:33 am

They say Phoenix AZ has been hot for weeks. Record heat, they say!
If so, then record longwave emission to space should be expected too.
It’s not that hard to see how it works, if you watch from space on the “CO2 Longwave IR” channel – NOAA’s GOES East band 16.

Night image, 0801Z yesterday October 19.
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Daytime image 2001Z yesterday October 19.
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The color scale of “brightness temperature” for visualization.
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The relevance of Band 16 to the concerns about incremental CO2. Plotted from MODTRAN outputs for the classic 2XCO2 case in clear conditions.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/175qnVngPPfZJKUPUH13u6t5wolTBl0qi/view?usp=sharing

The relationship of radiance to “brightness temperature.” I plotted this using the equation and constants from the user manual for the imager on the satellite.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qy4QnSkaJZeLIeC4R7-600ZuctPEUwaz/view?usp=sharing

Source of these images. The latest 10 days of image files are available here.
https://cdn.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES16/ABI/SECTOR/sr/16/

More here from last year to get the full impact of the concept of the variable emitter. Please read the full text description for this video.
https://youtu.be/I0OCzxUyMqQ

E. Schaffer
Reply to  David Dibbell
October 20, 2024 6:05 am

What?! These are clouds, the biggest GH-agent of all. And they reduce emissions all over the IR spectrum..

Reply to  E. Schaffer
October 20, 2024 6:27 am

It’s true that these images also show the overwhelming influence of clouds on longwave emissions.
Here are the corresponding GEOCOLOR images showing cloud cover.

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Reply to  E. Schaffer
October 20, 2024 8:01 am

Clouds also reflect the Sun’s shortwave heat back to outer space. Thus reducing the IR that GOES sees. So clouds are also one of the planet’s biggest cooling agents, by reducing sunlight reaching the surface.

E. Schaffer
Reply to  DMacKenzie
October 20, 2024 10:53 am

Do you know what the cloud contribution to the GHE is..?

Reply to  E. Schaffer
October 20, 2024 1:57 pm

I suspect a lot of people wished they knew the answer.

E. Schaffer
Reply to  It doesnot add up
October 20, 2024 3:35 pm

I do, it’s not a secret

Quondam
October 20, 2024 4:17 am

One of my early curiosities regarding climatology was the origin of the oxymoronic expression “Convective Equilibrium”.  Searching the internet eventually led to a microfilmed copy of Manchester Phil. Soc. Proc. Vol. ii. 1860-1862, pp. 170-176 [Jan. 21, 1862], wherein
 
A Paper, “On the Convective Equilibrium of Temperature in the Atmosphere” by Professor Wm. Thomson, LL.D., P.K.S., &c., was read by Dr. Joule.” (Thomson, (aka Kelvin), had been laid up by a curling mishap the previous month.)

From his first paragraph,
When all the parts of a fluid are freely interchanged and not subject to the influence of radiation or conduction, the temperature of the fluid is said by the Author to be in a state of convective equilibrium.” 

Thomson goes on to calculate a temperature gradient of 1ºcent per 329 feet.

Unfortunately, measurements by Mr. Welsh said 1°cent per 530 feet. 
 “Dr. Joule suggested that condensation of vapour in upward currents of air might account  to a considerable extent, if not perfectly, for the smallness of the lowering of temperature  found in going up, the Author has added the following investigation, in which the effect of  condensation is taken into account.”  
 
Thomson then calculates a temperature dependent range of 1ºcent per 499-932 feet and, in conclusion, 
 “… the explanation suggested by Dr. Joule is correct; and that the condensation of vapour  in ascending air is the chief cause of the cooling effect being so much less than that which  would be experienced by dry air.”

Thomson’s paper was critically discussed in Maxwell’s treatise (“Theory of Heat”, p.301, Longmans, 1872).

Does all this not seem eerily familiar? In more recent times, the first mention of “Convective Equilibrium” I’ve come across is Manabe & Wetherald (1966) and it is now irrevocably embedded in RCE muddles. Alas, I’ve lost pointers to my original source and Google  has not proved helpful. Curiously, a text version was located in a Google Books anthology of the period, apparently insulated from Google Scholar. As a matter of seminal scholarship, it might  prove helpful were alternative sources identified.

October 20, 2024 5:27 am

I think Israel will be crazy if they launch an attack on the Mad Mullahs of Iran and do not destroy Iran’s nuclear weapons facilities.

The Appeaser, and Mad Mullah lover, Joe Biden, wants Israel to leave Iran’s nuclear facilities alone. Joe says Israel can attack Iran’s military targets like missile production facilities and drone production facilities, but Joe thinks if Iran’s nuclear facilities are attacked that this will cause an escalation of the fighting in the region.

As if attacking Iran’s missile and drone production facilities is not an escalation.

I don’t know why Joe Biden loves the Mad Mullahs and their nuclear weapons progeam, but he is dead wrong if he thinks allowing Iran’s nuclear production facilities to remain intact is beneficial to the united States. The Mad Mullahs say every day “Death to America”, and they mean it. Why would we allow them to acquire nuclear weapons?

I have also heard some naysayers claim that Iran’s nuclear facilities are spread all over the country and some are buried deeply, so we shouldn’t attack.

So what? That doesn’t mean that those facilites can’t be attacked and neutralized. And buried facilites have to have doors on them. You don’t need to destroy the facility, just destroy the doors, which is a much easier job to do.

Yes, Israel will be crazy to allow the Mad Mullahs to continue with their nuclear weapons program. Do it, Bebe! You have no choice if you want to survive. And you will be helping us out too, because the U.S. doesn’t want religious fanatics like the Mad Mullahs firing nuclear weapons at us, either.

And, since the Mad Mullahs’ targeted your house a couple of days ago, you should target the Mad Mullahs personally, too. You will do the world a big favor eliminating these madmen, Bebe.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 20, 2024 5:45 am

It would probably be very difficult to eradicate Iran’s nuclear weapons program.

Rick C
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
October 20, 2024 9:40 am

Easier to eradicate the Mad Mullahs?

Reply to  Rick C
October 20, 2024 12:09 pm

Yuh, I’m sure they’re all hiding right now.

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
October 20, 2024 2:05 pm

they’re all hiding right now.”

That doesn’t seem to be very effective, does it. 🙂

Reply to  Rick C
October 20, 2024 4:29 pm

And then more will arise.

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 20, 2024 6:18 am

I’m sure the Israelis have had their contingencies for Iran’s nuke program sorted well before October 6. I rather expect them to go for Iran’s production facilities for drones and rockets and other related industries. That would also do a big favour to the Ukrainians.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 20, 2024 7:59 am

I think Israel will be crazy if they launch an attack on the Mad Mullahs of Iran and do not destroy Iran’s nuclear weapons facilities.

The Appeaser, and Mad Mullah lover, Joe Biden, wants Israel to leave Iran’s nuclear facilities alone.

One common complaint here (and elsewhere !) is about environmental activists “over-hyping” their personal fears into “everyone knows that …” rhetoric.

There is a difference between “nuclear facilities” and “nuclear weapons facilities”.

A link to an ABC News report just under 2 weeks ago :
https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/no-evidence-iran-rushing-build-nuclear-weapon-cia-director-says-rcna174004

which starts with the definitive statement that :

There is no evidence that Iran has decided to build a nuclear weapon, and if it did, the U.S. and its allies would most likely be able to detect such a step soon after it was taken, CIA Director William Burns said Monday.

What “evidence” do you have access to that the current CIA director does not ?

Israel already has (90+ ?) nukes, and the Jericho-III missiles to deliver them.

Mossad, despite the 7th October 2023 “miss”, is a very good information gatherer.

Iran will have to use the first 30 to 50 (?) kilograms of 90% enriched U-235 they produce to test any “design” they may up with in the future (/ buy from Pakistan / North Korea / ex-USSR nuclear scientists …).

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I last updated the attached graph in February, based on the regular IAEA reports on Iran’s nuclear facilities.

The 60% level is supposedly for medical isotopes. Once converted to “metal plates” it is useless for “weapons” (except possibly for “dirty bombs” ?).

IAEA-Iran_ex-JCPOA_Jan2016-Feb2024
Reply to  Mark BLR
October 20, 2024 8:34 am

If I remember my nuclear studies correctly it isn’t the material itself that is overly important but the timing of the explosive charge that starts the change reaction that is important. If you can’t control the timing you have at most a dirty bomb.

Reply to  mkelly
October 20, 2024 3:49 pm

True if you are talking about an implosion type bomb (Fat Man). The implosion type is required for reactor produced plutonium but it makes a fuel efficient uranium bomb as well. With uranium a simple shotgun type design (little boy) is easier to detonate when built with several critical masses.

sturmudgeon
Reply to  mkelly
October 20, 2024 5:53 pm

Question: I have always thought that it was “the chain reaction”…??

roaddog
Reply to  Mark BLR
October 21, 2024 8:42 pm

What evidence do you have that the director of the CIA can be trusted? Perhaps that the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation?

Reply to  roaddog
October 22, 2024 4:21 am

What evidence do you have that the director of the CIA can be trusted?

None whatsoever.

“I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole. We had entire training courses.” — Mike Pompeo

However, various National Intelligence Estimates (NIEs) since (at least ?) 2007, which includes inputs from US intelligence agencies other than the CIA, have consistently included a “Conclusion” that whatever nuclear weapons program Iran might have had in the past was halted in 2003.

I vaguely recall seeing media articles over the last decade or two … which I am unfortunately unable to Google-fu my way back to right now … that Mossad analysts in Tel Aviv have consistently reached the same “Conclusion” independently from ~2007 all the way up to “now” (2024).

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Note also that while Iran is an autocratic regime, it is also one of the few theocratic ones in the world today.

For a theocratic regime to “suddenly” walk back a religious fatwa would be … problematic, however authoritarian it is.

Yes, there are some members of the Iranian parliament, the Islamic Consultative Assembly, advocating for a push to nuclear weapons “immediately”, but my understanding — which may be completely wrong ! — is that they are a very small minority and that the regime is “publicly” pushing back against the idea … for now …

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The possibility of Iran “breaking out” is very real in the medium-term (2 to 5 years), but excessive hysteria only weakens the case of the advocates and activists responsible for the recent crop of “Iran will have a nuclear warhead within a few weeks ! ! !” headlines.

In a speech to the Israeli Knesset in 1992, a member warned that “Iran is three to five years away from reaching nuclear weapons capability”.

That, then junior, parliamentarian’s name ?

A certain … checks notes, oh yes, here we go … “Benjamin Netanyahu” …

Rich Davis
Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 20, 2024 10:05 am

I suppose that Israel has been relying on MAD (mutually assured destruction) since at least the time that Pakistan got the bomb. Just a few airbursts could take out most of their population. I would have to think that this plays into their cultivating the reputation of always avenging every attack. They need their enemies to be certain that the destruction of Israel would result without any moral qualms in an unbridled counterstrike against the attacker’s population.

Iran will have nuclear weapons if they don’t already. That ship sailed under Obama. The genie won’t be forced back into the bottle at this point. The only way Israel could confidently destroy Iran’s nuclear weapons program would be with a nuclear first strike. Can anyone imagine that happening? A nuclear first strike could actually get us into a nuclear war with Russia and China after only a few miscalculations.

Attacking Iranian nuclear programs probably wouldn’t eliminate much risk but could provide Iran with a pretense to reverse their longstanding claim that their nuclear program is strictly for civilian purposes (always a lie).

It seems that Netanyahu has concluded that MAD can be acceptable provided that Iranian proxy forces are defanged.

Reply to  Rich Davis
October 20, 2024 4:33 pm

If one can’t eliminate Iran’s nuclear weapon production facilities, and stockpiles, then eliminate the delivery vehicles, their production facilities, and their operational sites.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 20, 2024 4:05 pm

From my frame of reference as an Oak Ridger the Iranian bomb breakout is a matter of political posturing. Remember that Oak Ridge went from farmland to producing 63 kg of bomb grade uranium in 2 1/2 years. That would fuel several efficient implosion bombs. There can be no doubt that Iran has had the means to produce more than enough HEU given what is known about their centrifuge technology. Breakout could have been several years ago for all we know and the stockpile may be many bombs worth.

bottom line: An adversary determined to build an atomic bomb shouldn’t be allowed 3+ years to work on it.

E. Schaffer
October 20, 2024 6:06 am
Reply to  E. Schaffer
October 20, 2024 8:41 am

As the lapse rate will vary with the Cp of air (which will vary by amount of CO2) and water vapor maybe any possible change in emission height is cancelled by change in WV and CO2.

Reply to  E. Schaffer
October 20, 2024 9:15 am

As you say in your link to your site
“And of course all the books on “climate science” need to be rewritten.”

Possibly time for a self reassessment ES…may I suggest you study “Global Physical Climatology” by Hartmann, a readable bachelor’s level textbook.

Plus graphs with no numbers on the X and Y axes don’t really impress anyone.

E. Schaffer
Reply to  DMacKenzie
October 20, 2024 10:57 am

Read the article, learn something..

Mac
October 20, 2024 6:30 am

I saw a headline about an “Intelligence Leak at the Pentagon”. I started thinking that it’s true that intelligence has been leaking from the military establishment, government institutions, academic institutions, journalistic institutions, so called green institutions and particularly democratic political politicians and their base for a long time(same for EU, Australia, UK). So now the IQ is plummeting and soon will be below 100 headed for 80? May already be there for some? As Joe Biden would say “Not a Joke”

Rich Davis
October 20, 2024 7:02 am

Mercifully, the US election campaign is drawing to a close. Tomorrow morning, early voting will begin here in Connecticut.

Will it be ‘Too Big to Rig’?

I certainly have no illusions that the PRC (People’s Republic of Connecticut) will vote for Trump, but what about the swing states that polls show him winning? Is it within the margin of fraud?

Reply to  Rich Davis
October 20, 2024 7:32 am

Most people who haven’t been shielded from reality won’t vote for trump. His next musical will be in prison.

Reply to  MyUsername
October 20, 2024 8:43 am

Tell that the Laken Reilly’s family you insensitive twat.

Rich Davis
Reply to  mkelly
October 20, 2024 8:57 am

Lusername isn’t even an American but he/sh/it thinks it knows reality from reading the Grauniad.

Talk about ‘shielded from reality’!

Reply to  Rich Davis
October 20, 2024 9:16 am

At least I can say that outside of america trump is a laughing stock.

Mr.
Reply to  MyUsername
October 20, 2024 9:56 am

In your world, does “outside of America” consist of just you and your pathetic little group of lycra-clad bicycle buddies?

Reply to  MyUsername
October 20, 2024 10:15 am

Yes, it’s a nervous laugh, because they know that unlike our other feckless politicians, he’s not the guy you want to mess with…

Reply to  MyUsername
October 20, 2024 12:34 pm

He certainly made a laughing stock of the dems at that Al Smith dinner.

People are laughing WITH Trump.. at the Kamal and Walz.

paul courtney
Reply to  MyUsername
October 21, 2024 11:17 am

Mr. name: At least you can say that, but you insist on saying so much more that ain’t so.

Reply to  Rich Davis
October 20, 2024 4:38 pm

There wa a story on the ‘net that the UK Labour Party was spedning money to send 1,000 acolytes to the US to talk people into voting for VP Harris. I’ve seen nothing about that since. Is it real?

Rich Davis
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
October 20, 2024 5:07 pm

I haven’t heard that but if it is real, it’s less of a concern to me than the home-grown fraud going on. It is bad manners to interfere in other countries’ elections but we have freedom of speech which protects speech that we don’t like. So I defend their right to do it.

roaddog
Reply to  Rich Davis
October 21, 2024 8:46 pm

Non-US Citizens rights should be protected, when Biden doesn’t even protect the rights of those born here?

roaddog
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
October 21, 2024 8:45 pm

The colonies need help. Yes, it’s real. And likely illegal.

Reply to  Rich Davis
October 20, 2024 5:44 pm

G’Day Rich,

“he/sh/it”

Accidental or deliberate?

Rich Davis
Reply to  Tombstone Gabby
October 20, 2024 6:06 pm

Oopsie

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  MyUsername
October 20, 2024 8:50 am

Will you be one of the performers?

Rich Davis
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
October 20, 2024 9:11 am

I think Lusername is referring to Trump listening to music at a rally when a couple of people needed medical attention recently. The same jackwagons who think it’s funny to call that a ‘musical’ would be saying that he didn’t care about supporters collapsing in the audience if he had just continued his speech.

TDS sufferers like Lusername are a pathetic nasty bunch of people (assuming that Lusername isn’t a bot running in a Shanghai data center).

Scissor
Reply to  Rich Davis
October 20, 2024 9:30 am
Reply to  Rich Davis
October 20, 2024 9:32 am

40 Minutes? Swaying to YMCA (Is trump WOKE now 😱😱😱)? That sure helped them, beside being long after they recieved help already. And after his dance show, when people clearly wanted to ask more questions, he just left.

a pathetic nasty bunch of people (assuming that Lusername isn’t a bot running in a Shanghai data center).

I think you are projecting here, defending someone like trump.

Mr.
Reply to  MyUsername
October 20, 2024 10:08 am

Really, what does it matter to you if Trump becomes president of the USA again?

You don’t pay taxes there, so you don’t get to vote there.

Stay in your lane, and leave it to the citizens of the US to decide by their electoral college votes who they want to act as their president for the next 4 years.

(or are you one those “global governance” agitators who think that unelected outfits like the UN and WEF should be calling the shots over all of us?)

Simon
Reply to  Mr.
October 21, 2024 12:14 pm

Really, what does it matter to you if Trump becomes president of the USA again?”
I think you have a somewhat altered view of the world if you think the person in charge of the most powerful country on the planet doesn’t affect us all.

Reply to  Simon
October 21, 2024 12:36 pm

most powerful country on the planet doesn’t affect us all.”

You have just given the strongest reason for NEVER electing the Kamal.!

mleskovarsocalrrcom
Reply to  Simon
October 21, 2024 4:00 pm

The Constitution ensures that there is no one “Person in charge”.

Simon
Reply to  mleskovarsocalrrcom
October 21, 2024 4:55 pm

Thank the lord for that…..

Reply to  Simon
October 21, 2024 11:14 pm

Thank the lord for that…..”

True, imagine if the Kamal was in charge… (I mean, the people giving her instructions)

… the decay of the USA would only take a couple of years.

Rich Davis
Reply to  MyUsername
October 20, 2024 10:55 am

What does the Grauniad tell you to believe about the Biden/Harris (In-)Justice Department suing Virginia for removing known-ineligible non-citizens from their voting rolls?

How would a good little commie like you spin that story?

Simon
Reply to  Rich Davis
October 22, 2024 11:50 am

The law is the law. That is the bit you rightwing extremists seem to forget. Now if you don’t like the law then make a case and get it changed, but don’t break it then bleat. But as often is the case, there is a back story. There is a very good reason for not altering the voting lists close to an election. It is to protect voters who may wrongly be removed and do not have time to correct the error. It is not as you seem to claim to protect illegal voters. You can read the full unbiased version of this issue here.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-virginia-violating-federal-laws-prohibition-systematic-efforts

Question for you, what do you think of Trump being sued again for his comments about the central park 5? This is why he must never be president again. His mouth is a ticking time bomb. He’s lost two defamation lawsuits recently and he seems intent on making it three.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/10/21/trump-central-park-five-lawsuit/

Reply to  MyUsername
October 20, 2024 12:37 pm

Those people there.. even the several Democrats.. all understood why he stopped his speech because some people were distressed.

He showed he was very much human..

… something the Kamal is incapable of doing.

Reply to  MyUsername
October 20, 2024 12:33 pm

Your TDS is showing.

Trump is REAL and a far better option for POTUS than the vacuous mind-numbed Kamal. !

Reply to  MyUsername
October 20, 2024 2:07 pm

shielded from reality”

Says the Luser, from its locked and padded basement !!

Rich Davis
Reply to  Rich Davis
October 20, 2024 10:22 am

Ok, now that we had the obligatory distraction by Lusername, could we discuss my question?

How much fraud is there going to be this time? There are illegal aliens newcomers on the voting roles of all the swing states. The current regime is going to court to prevent them being removed. You’d have to be a Lusername-level moron to miss the obvious fact that they are trying to facilitate fraud.

So how much of a margin will be needed to overcome the fraud?

Reply to  Rich Davis
October 20, 2024 11:08 am

There is still no proof for the last time. At least not on democrat side.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr75mpkm7nro

Every Accusation is a Confession.
You’d have to be a Davis-level moron to believe trumps lies.

Ill Tempered Klavier
Reply to  MyUsername
October 20, 2024 1:51 pm

When you actually look into things, “Trump lied.” is normally the lie

Reply to  Ill Tempered Klavier
October 20, 2024 2:12 pm
Reply to  MyUsername
October 20, 2024 2:46 pm

NO, just statements that the far-left scum don’t like.

Politifact, Factcheck.org, Washington Post, CNN etc etc etc are essentially just ultra-leftist shill propaganda sites.

Wiki itself is also ultra-leftist activist on any political issue.

If you don’t know that, you are really particularly DUMB. !

sturmudgeon
Reply to  MyUsername
October 20, 2024 6:02 pm

wiki/? again?

Rich Davis
Reply to  MyUsername
October 20, 2024 5:25 pm

The funny part Luser is that I have never been a particular fan of Donald Trump. It’s just that we have a binary choice and the Democrats are full-spectrum god-awful on every policy. Trump has earned my respect in a lot of ways and in equal measure the Democrats and the Deep State give me no alternative but to oppose their lawfare tactics and their censorship. They are the clear threat to democracy. You couldn’t project more with your ‘every accusation is a confession’ comment.

Simon
Reply to  Rich Davis
October 21, 2024 12:18 pm

They are the clear threat to democracy.”
So you support the man who tried to steal an election. Wow.
And what is with this banging on about the size of Arnold Palmers penis? You know a guy has no policies when he starts doing that.

Reply to  Simon
October 21, 2024 12:41 pm

LIAR! Trump did not try to steal an election.

He just tried to show it had already been stolen.

Trump has lots of very solid policies that will lift the USA out of the slime that Biden and the Kamal has put it into.

The Kamal cannot state one policy except that she grew up in a small town where people liked their lawns.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Simon
October 21, 2024 2:01 pm

Simon,
The whole insurrection bullshit is just that. Trump encouraged supporters to protest peacefully and later told them to go home. Democrats burn down neighborhoods, kill people, and it’s called ‘mostly peaceful protests’. The dimbulb candidate herself raised funds to bail out the rioters and incited them to continue. The insurrection started when Trump was inaugurated in January 2017.

I know that you’re a communist, so I have no illusions that you can even think these thoughts.

As for the other crap, I refer you to my other comment above. There is absolutely nothing inconsistent about my position.

Simon
Reply to  Rich Davis
October 21, 2024 4:58 pm

“Trump encouraged supporters to protest peacefully and later told them to go home.”
And then sat on his very large arse while the whole thing played out. We can only hope this all gets to court so all the evidence can be seen by both sides. But I bet you want it to go no further so you can keep much of the traitorous stuff Trump did hidden.

“I know that you’re a communist”
Well then you are an idiot.

Reply to  Simon
October 21, 2024 11:11 pm

And we all know that you are a mindless simpleton

Every comment you make, drips and oozes with putrid leftism… yes you are something similar to a low-life communist.

Trump was miles away, and had asked the people who should have been in control of the situation, (Pelosi et al) to do something… they reneged on their duty, as always.

The FAILURE is totally theirs to refuse to own.

Reply to  Rich Davis
October 20, 2024 11:10 am

It’s still illegal for undocumented immigrants to vote in U.S. federal elections.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/illegal_immigration_reform_and_immigration_responsibility_act

Rich Davis
Reply to  walter.h893
October 20, 2024 11:21 am

Well duh, Walter!

So why is Merrick Garland suing Virginia?

Reply to  walter.h893
October 20, 2024 12:42 pm

It’s still illegal for undocumented immigrants to vote in U.S. federal elections.”

But they will… even if someone else does it for them.

Rich Davis
Reply to  bnice2000
October 20, 2024 12:59 pm

Exactly right! Along with a great many dead people and people who have moved away. In California there’s actually a new law making it illegal to ask for id!

So a man walks into the polling place, pulls out his list and says Hola, I’m …Patricia Smith … oh no, lo siento, sorry that’s precinct 27. I’m Willie Brown.

Ok sir, here’s your ballot.

And once the ballot is cast, even if it were later proven that the ineligible vote was cast, there is no way to retrieve it. It’s a secret ballot and it will be counted.

The fraud starts when the voter rolls are padded with ineligible names.

Reply to  bnice2000
October 20, 2024 5:57 pm

Even ‘documented’, as in “Green Card”, immigrants may not vote, or serve on a jury.

(Personal experience.)

Scissor
Reply to  Rich Davis
October 20, 2024 12:55 pm

I doubt that Trump can overcome the cheating in Michigan as there are 500,000 more registered voters than eligible citizens. I’m more hopeful about his prospects in less corrupt swing states.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Scissor
October 20, 2024 1:27 pm

Now with early voting, one fraudster could easily vote in 50 places under 50 fake names over 14 days. Who’s to say that they don’t even make realistic fake ids for them to use in states that require voter id? If they know in advance that the person is dead, has moved away, or is a made up person, how exactly would anyone produce evidence of fraud in that? They have untold millions of dollars, close to a billion. They need maybe 20,000 fake votes in each of 7 states. If it costs them $500 per vote that comes to $70 million.

And then there are the mail-in ballots. Much easier to cheat.

Reply to  Rich Davis
October 20, 2024 2:10 pm

Keep a look-out for democrat sponsored coaches in transit between regions.

Reply to  Scissor
October 20, 2024 2:22 pm

Voting machines are used for early voting in Georgia, and in other states, to provide the Democrats with vital info regarding how many ballots they have to fabricate, based on bloated registration lists ( including dead people, moved out of state, non-citizens, convicted felons, etc.), to be counted, for as long as it takes, after the polls close, to “eke out a plausible win by 15,000 to 50,000 votes”. 
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/georgia-s-elections-are-fraudulent

Scissor
Reply to  wilpost
October 20, 2024 4:54 pm

Republicans have filed many lawsuits in attempts to address these issues. Will it be enough? Will Trump’s lead be “too big to rig?”

I hope so.

Simon
Reply to  Scissor
October 21, 2024 12:19 pm

I doubt that Trump can overcome the cheating in Michigan as there are 500,000 more registered voters than eligible citizens.”
Bollocks. Proof please?

roaddog
Reply to  Simon
October 21, 2024 8:50 pm

It has been documented thoroughly. You could search the internet, if you’re capable of that.

Fran
October 20, 2024 9:26 am

In a video about archaeology in submerged coastlines, the proposed offshore windfarms around the world is shown at 53:07. The presenter posits the opportunity to “dig” as these are built. Me, I wonder how much copper and cement there is in the world. Total madness.

October 20, 2024 10:12 am

Well, Pikes Peak finally has snow on it again. Only a month late. I blame La Niña and the Tonga volcano.

roaddog
Reply to  johnesm
October 21, 2024 8:51 pm

I lived 20 miles from Pike’s Peak for 25 years. No two years the same. Ever.

Russell Cook
October 20, 2024 10:49 am

Multnomah v. Exxon, version 2.0: Oregon County Suing Exxon Now Suing Art Robinson’s Oregon Petition Project

In a first for the collective “ExxonKnew” U.S. lawsuits, this one has named one of our people as a defendant. My Friday Oct 18 GelbspanFiles blog post detailed how that maneuver is an epic mistake, where in their efforts to say Art allowed all kinds of fake names into the Oregon Petition Project, they inadvertently pointed an arrow the size of Texas at the origins of that false accusation and by default at the origins of the overall smear of skeptic climate scientists.

Steve Oregon
October 20, 2024 10:55 am

This AP journalism on how Washington State’s ballot measure to repeal their insane climate tax will defund goodness is a real hoot. AKA Asinine Deceit.
https://www.oregonlive.com/environment/2024/10/washington-states-landmark-climate-law-hangs-in-the-balance-this-election.html

October 20, 2024 11:57 am

Notes without comment… Doesn’t really need any. From the UK Telegraph. Guess it could be a story tip.

The SNP government has claimed there are 24 different genders.

In official guidance, the devolved administration clarified a list of two dozen terms it said the gender identity of members of the public could be recorded by public bodies.

The 24 genders
Cisgender
Trans man
Trans woman
Non-Binary
Trans – not otherwise specified
Agender
Trans masculine
Trans feminine
Genderfluid
Genderqueer
Questioning
Intersex
Assigned female at birth – not specified
Assigned male at birth – not specified
Pangender
Bigender
Autigender
Androgynous
Gender non-conforming
Detransitioned
Neutral
Demigender – female
Demigender – male
Demigender – not otherwise specified…..

….On a BBC radio phone-in show in July, the [SNP] First Minister [John Swinney] initially attempted to avoid answering a question about how many genders he believed there were, saying it was a matter for “debate”.

He eventually revealed that his personal belief was “there is the male and female gender” and that there were only “two genders”….

….There are then a further 23 “trans subcategory” options people can be recorded against. The “coding framework” was produced by the government “to help statistics producers categorise the free text responses related to trans status”.

Sweet Old Bob
October 20, 2024 12:10 pm

news tip…

Starmer’s UK government has now required that all chickens , every single one, be registered with DEFRA, their department of the environment and rural affairs.
Those not complying will be fined and possibly jailed.
What to do, what to do….https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/svg/1f914.svg
Being inept, as governments are, they didn’t specify chickens raised, as my sister in law in Wales has (2, down from about 15) and millions of others like her.
So the clever people in Blighty registered every cooked or frozen chicken they bought from their various grocery stores….
…and crashed the government’s system.
I applaud (wildly!!!!) that sort of thinking.
Well done, chaps!!

Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
October 20, 2024 12:45 pm

Register each chicken nugget separately, as well. 🙂

sturmudgeon
Reply to  bnice2000
October 20, 2024 6:09 pm

I have, in the distant past.. raised chickens. Never did I see a chicken’s nuggets. Is this a new breed, or just one that wants to ‘choose’ to be one with nuggets?

sturmudgeon
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
October 20, 2024 6:07 pm

Love it!

October 20, 2024 2:41 pm

Regarding Roe vs Wade, a PRIOR Supreme Court had made a mistake, by asserting a woman has a right to an abortion.

Based on that erroneous ruling more than 30 years ago, various federal laws and rules and regulations were enacted and promulgated.

An entire federal infrastructure of federally $supported entities, involved with abortion, came into being.

However, THE CURRENT Supreme Court determined, nowhere in the US Constitution, etc., is mentioned: 1) abortion and 2) a woman has a right to an abortion.

The federal government only has the rights ceded to it by the SOVEREIGN STATES.
Any rights not ceded, stay with the States

That means the States determine the laws, rules and regulations regarding abortion.

The federal government is involved only if a State violates a civil right, such as discrimination based on race.

Scissor
Reply to  wilpost
October 20, 2024 5:00 pm

I live in a state in which there are no limits to abortion. At nine months in the midst of contractions, the child’s life could be terminated, legally. I find this sick and disgusting.

Rich Davis
Reply to  wilpost
October 20, 2024 5:52 pm

I agree about the tenth amendment but on that basis I’m not sure that the federal government actually has any authority over civil rights beyond voting rights incorporated in post-civil war amendments?

And is the right to life not a civil right?

I am with Scissor 100%

Reply to  Rich Davis
October 21, 2024 7:54 am

The US Constitution reaffirms and sums up various items the States have agreed to.

IT IS NOT ALLOWED TO CONFER ANY RIGHTS BEYONG THOSE ALL STATES HAVE AGREED TO

Discrimination, such as based on color, creed, race, ethnic origin, etc., is specifically not allowed by State Constitutions.
All states have agreed, as reaffirmed in the US Constitution.

The Department of Justice has no jurisdiction over State laws, rules and regulations, but such measures shall not discriminate, as reaffirmed in the US Constitution.

All States have agreed a voter must be a US citizen to be allowed to vote for anyone in FEDERAL office, such as US House members, US Senate members, US President, etc., as reaffirmed in the US Constitution.

Regarding STATE representatives, each state determines the election laws, rules and regulations, but such measures shall not discriminate, as reaffirmed in the US Constitution.

October 20, 2024 3:13 pm

A look at the progress of investment in various kinds of renewables capacity in the UK. It is clearly dominated by wind, but batteries look to be catching up fast: except there’s a catch. These numbers are nominal delivery capacity, so they don’t reflect the low average capacity utilisation of the various facilities. The Flywheels incidentally are at JET Culham, and used for injecting 400MW for a few seconds for a fusion test, having been spun up rather more slowly from grid supply.

Renewables-Project-Status-Nom-Capacity
Reply to  It doesnot add up
October 20, 2024 3:20 pm

If we make a rough correction for real world capacity factors, the picture looks like this: the low average throughput of batteries (and other storage) knocks them back considerably, and solar is seen to be far less consequential.

Renewables-Project-Status-CF-adjusted
October 20, 2024 4:01 pm

Another note without comment. This one is from the Guardian, home of global heating, the climate emergency and the Clark County letter writing campaign…

This is how we do it: ‘Having sex as two trans guys is so expansive … there are endless possibilities’
Ben and Jack bonded while watching Lord of the Rings and admiring Aragorn. Now, their sexually charged friendship has turned to a hot relationship…

You can read more of this important independent news here, and support the Guardian’s fearless independent journalism while you’re at it:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/oct/19/this-is-how-we-do-it-having-sex-as-two-trans-guys-is-so-expansive-there-are-endless-possibilities

Rich Davis
Reply to  michel
October 20, 2024 5:57 pm

I can’t even process this. Two trans guys? Attracted to each other? So in reality we’re talking about two butch lesbians?

Reply to  Rich Davis
October 21, 2024 12:48 am

Don’t know. I don’t understand any of it.

If you read the piece from the Telegraph I posted earlier, John Swinney, the First Minister of Scotland, says he believes there are two genders. The SNP itself appears to believe there are 24. Facebook a while back had a list of 50+. A film for use in schools put out by the BBC had a presenter claiming over 100. Medecine.net says there are 72 ‘besides male and female’, so presumably 74 in total. In some lists you find ‘male’ and ‘female’ listed, in others not.

If we do not know how many genders there are, or how to tell if someone is one or the other, it cannot be a coherent concept.

Although its usually claimed that genders are independent of biological sex, the term is also commonly used in the media as a synonym for ‘sex’. As in discussions about gender and sport. Maybe that is what John Swinney meant.

Sometimes it is denied that biological sex is binary or objective, so for instance doctors at birth are described as ‘assigning’ sex at birth, with the implication that they have some choice, they are not simply observing and describing what they see. This makes no sense to me. Sex is obviously binary, its defined by role in reproductive biology, what kind of gametes are brought to it.

Then there is the expression ‘gender confirmation surgery’ and hormone treatment, which I also cannot make sense of: if there are 72 genders. If there is not a one to one correspondence between genders and sex, what does gender have to do with sex at all? As you read through the lists, it seems like nothing. They could equally, for all the relevance to biological sex of many of the items, be lists of native languages, and its a mystery how one would go about ‘confirming’ them by surgery. Whatever ‘confirming’ means in this context.

Gender is also something defined by what people identify as. I don’t know what ‘identify as’ means, how we would test for whether its happening. Then there is the claim that people can be trapped in a body of the wrong sex. This also makes no sense to me. We are what sex we are.

There seems to be a move to replace the concept of sex in public policy with that of gender, so for instance the demand that women only facilities should be open to anyone who is of the male sex but claims to be of a female gender, by way of self-identification. As with various Scottish cases, one of which led to difficulties for the former First Minister, Nicola Sturgeon, when it resulted in sending a male rapist to a women’s prison. This is obviously wrong and has no rational justification. There was a similar dispute about a woman’s crisis center. J K Rowling has intervened in some of these Scottish disputes.

Then we get the concept of transphobia. As when a girl on a football team, confronted with an opposing player of unusual dimensions, asked ‘are you a man?’ in a spirit of genuine uncertainty. She was immediately suspended. He was, by the way, he was just identifiying as female.

So, yes, doesn’t make much sense. Kathleen Stock in ‘Material Girls’ is very good on this. She is an analytic philosopher so is used to careful analysis of concepts.

But when she published it, she was driven out of the University of Sussex for making sense.

October 21, 2024 7:31 pm

French CNN, LCI (channel 26) just said

Elon Musk is a libertarian

But he betrayed libertarianism

He criticizes the state but should praise it

He got SpaceX because the [federal] state gave him a lot of money

So now NASA does not exist because all the money went to Musk for his rockets.