News Brief by Kip Hansen — 9 October 2024 — very few words
Here’s a little science puzzle.
In the image below, see if you can correctly identify the more-than-one hurricanes spinning simultaneously in the Atlantic Basin:
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No cheating now – there is more-than-one officially designated hurricane in the image above.
For extra points, if you can spot them, can you name them?
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Author’s Comment:
I could only do so because I follow the NOAA National Hurricane Center news twice a day, having lived in the Northern Caribbean for a decade or so and still having friends and family there.
As of 1200 EDT 9 October, there were fewer. The original images and NOAA text are here.
And, no, there is no prize, but:
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I see three. Now I’ll have a look at the answer
Bryan ==. And you are CORRECT! and the names/
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There are three in the image, I think the northern one has passed (i.e. gone extratropical). K & L storms, but no people impact, well, maybe to the UK.
The more interesting question is why haven’t there been Cape Verde hurricanes this year. Did the cool patch to the south make north or disrupt things some other way?
The less interesting question is what happened to the 33 storms Micheal Mann foolishly forecast?
Ric ==> I’m no hurricane expert, except for avoiding them while living in the Caribbean on our sailboat. Kirk petered out leaving Leslie, which will just spin and die in the Central Atlantic, becoming a Tropical storm by Friday and heading North and East.
Milton, heading east and north across the Gulf, is ashore as I write, 2300 hrs EDT, having landfallen on the cusp between a Cat 2 and a Cat 3 — but with lots of rain. winds dropping but still dangerous.
I have a relative living between Orlando and the East Coast who reports her lake already a foot higher due to rain alone .
There have been. However the subtropical ridge is divided into two high pressure cells, one to the east (Azores high) and one to the west (Bermuda high). Anything that develops near the Cape Verde islands is going to recurve far out in the Atlantic (Kirk, Leslie, etc). Anything that develops in the western sea will be driven into the Gulf of Mexico and up the Florida coast (Helene, Milton, etc).
I see 3, can name 1 (Milton)
shoehorn ==> A decent score!
i check the sit multiple times a day to see what th stupid models say.
fom memory there were 2 hurricanes, milton and leslie — kirk is mia—
and there were 2 disturbances.
but a hurricane is just a social construct, meant to scare people.
big wind, nothing to see
I notice mosh is still at a kindergarten writing and mental level….
And drooling…
Careful! Our site host is good friends of Mosh, and doesn’t like him to be criticized extensively.
Someone needs to tell him where the shift key is.
Can you do me a favor and tell us what you mean by “averaging” colors? I have no idea what that means.
Mosher ==> And, quite right, Milton and Leslie are in attendance, but in the image (Oct 6) Kirk is still trying hard but fading….gone now, of course. In a day or two, Leslie will be too.
Milton, thankfully, lost some of his power by landfall, but is dumping rain and still blowing hard inland according to family members there.
Tampa/St Pete will have been hit hard, but by Grace, not by a Cat 4 or 5, which was considered possible a couple of days ago.
Big winds aren’t. “Hurricane” is and the categories are. Created when you couldn’t see them coming so probably not to scare people.
Now am I supposed to believe one extra F150 revving in Brazil caused Milton or be expertly mocked once again.?
Mosher is obviously an advanced AI.
I guess we will never know what averaging colors means.
Let alone ever know what the best average color there is to live life by.
The central pressure is being reported at 897hPa. That is an intense storm.
Looks like the three we had recently, one, Joyce maybe didn’t live up to expectations. What is the name of the big low in Hudson Bay?
BOZO in honour of Justin
hd ==> Yes, that has the appearance of a major storm, as do several other areas of the hemisphere we can see in the full sized image.
Kip,
I am pretty sure that you missed one.
CO2 in the atmosphere is such a potent hurricane-causing molecule that I believe I can also detect a hurricane that is currently centered on Hudson Bay!
/sarc mode off
But according to CNN, these storms are 500 times more likely to happen than if we didn’t have a changing climate:
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/10/09/climate/hurricane-helene-supercharged-climate-change
I don’t know if this a face palm or shake my head moment…
I was watching Jesse Watters tonight. He was interviewing a hurricane hunter pilot. During the interview they were showing images of a hurricane hunter aircraft. It was a P-3. I have thousands of hours in P-3s, and those images were of a a P-3. However, the pilot Jesse was interviewing said he flew a WC-130J–clearly not a P-3. Actually, a P-3 is an upside down C-130.
I also have thousands of hours in P-3’s. One of my old flight engineers had been in a VW squadron out of Key West. They were hurricane hunters. He would often tell us tails of going through various storms. He always enjoyed the change of the eye wall to the eye. Very bumpy to smooth.
The stiff wings on the P-3 made it bumpy but durable and safe.
And during your prefilight, when in the wheel-well and when you look up, there’s a stencil on the TD amp overhead that says, “No Step.” Obviously you can’t step on the item in a P-3. However, on a C-130, the engines are rotated 180 degrees, and with the cowling removed, you could. C-130s and P-3s use the same engines–just rotated 180 degrees.
I was watching “The Six Million Dollar Man” many years ago, and they were showing a turbo-prop engine start up. It was vaguely familiar. The reason it confused me was it was a C-130 engine which is an upside-down P-3 engine–or vice-versa.
I saw that too. I texted the show, but it was too late. They were interviewing one of the USAFr WRS 53rd pilots. I doubt he was able to see the video, so he was explaining their C-130 aircraft to Waters. But the video was from a NOAA P3 research flight posted from the day before. Most journalists don’t distinguish between the two organizations. Just imagine how confused they’d be if the Navy’s Hurricane Hunters were still in existence.
Not even a thimble?
Andy ==> Just a smile and a nod….
Shame the image doesn’t cover more of the globe as according to the BBC this morning here in the UK we have hurricane force winds of 15000+mph!
I can just imagine all the bogus insurance claims being written right now.
I am mulling over an idea.
We just had a massive solar event.
About the time the solar energy and high energy particles entered the atmosphere, Milton went through a very fast intensification. It seems that after the solar event, Milton down graded.
Is it possible there is a connection?
No. /sarc It is climate change. /sarc It has to be. /sarc
There is no other possible explanation. /sarc^2
I left out one. According to climatologists, the sun has nothing to do with climate.
Famous Climate Scientist on attribution: We have looked at all the other possible causes and it wasn’t then. So it must be climate change.
So it means that the dog didn’t bark?