By David Wojick
The Boston Globe recently ran a silly story about the CFACT et al. whale protection lawsuit. As this title indicates, it is basically a political hit piece — “Activists are spreading misinformation about whale deaths to obstruct clean energy policies, researchers find”.
What the researchers actually found is that CFACT, Heartland, etc. are conservatives. Ten minutes on their websites would make that clear, but apparently, it is a research result if you put a lot of work into it.
The article talks about, but never addresses, the lawsuit. Its basic (and obvious) point is that the Feds in charge of environmental impact assessment have failed to consider the cumulative impact on the severely endangered North Atlantic Right Whale (NARW) from lining the Atlantic coast with huge wind facilities.
Cumulative impact analysis is specifically called for by the Endangered Species Act, and the lawsuit simply asks that this law be enforced by the Court. There is no misinformation.
First, in the Globe article comes a lengthy, nonsensical attack on some of the conservative groups fighting to save the whales from green industrialization on the grounds that conservatives cannot or should not do this. No comment needed.
But then the article wanders into impact science, where they unwittingly present a telling contradiction. First, it says this:
““At this point, there is no scientific evidence that noise resulting from offshore wind site characterization surveys could potentially cause whale deaths,” NOAA said on a website dedicated to questions about whales and wind.”
Note no evidence of POTENTIAL. NOAA used to say there was no evidence of actual killing of whales. Now, they have upped their denial to no potential. No potential means no risk, which is sheer nonsense.
But then they make the mistake of talking to an actual whale scientist. The scientist says this, which clearly describes several potentials, thus contradicting NOAA:
“That said, offshore wind development isn’t risk-free for whales, said Jessica Redfern, associate vice president of ocean conservation science at the New England Aquarium. She and other scientists studying the potential impacts of offshore wind are watching to see if the development forces them to change migration paths and whether the noise from construction could hamper a mother’s ability to nurse her calf or cause stress. And they’re watching what wind development might do to the whales’ prey.”
Mind you, Redfern’s description of some of the well-known risks is itself symptomatic of the neglect CFACT et al‘s lawsuit seeks to correct. She refers to “watching to see” what, in fact, cannot be seen because the severely endangered whales live underwater. The whole federally funded strategy at this point is to just wait and see what happens, as though extinction were reversible.
And, as usual, there is no mention of the huge federal harassment prediction numbers for sonar and construction, which create a huge potential for killing endangered critters. NOAA itself estimates that both sonar site surveys and construction pile driving expose a lot of whales and other protected marine mammals to dangerous noise levels.
Getting back to NOAA’s purely political see-no-evil pronouncement of no risk, they officially know better. Over a year ago, they took comments on a draft North American Right Whale (wait and see) protection strategy. A coalition of ten expert whale protection groups warned them in no uncertain terms about the clear threat from site characterization sonar surveys.
Here is the technical heart of their warning: “The Draft EA for the Empire Wind, for example, shows the brand and model of Sparkers and Seismic Air guns (so-called “bubble” guns) that are representative of those expected to be used. This equipment will emit sounds of the same sound frequencies as the calls of the NARW, which anthropogenic sounds are received by the NARW louder (188dB and 192dB respectively) than are the natural calls of the NARW, and thus are reasonably expected to “mask” them, or in common terms, drown them out. Right whales are highly dependent upon sound to maintain contact; they emit contact calls to communicate with conspecifics to keep aware of each other’s locations. Additionally, mothers and young calves must maintain close proximity in order for the calf to nurse and for the mother to be able to protect her calf by placing herself between her calf and predators, and NARW uses contact calls to do this.”
“It is important to understand that the decibel scale is a logarithmic one. So, as is the case here (example above taken from actual developer’s plans), sound emissions with a dB level that is 25 to 35 dB higher than the whale’s call have a loudness level of about six to ten times the whale call’s loudness.”
See my “Ten whale groups slam Atlantic OSW” at https://www.cfact.org/2022/12/21/ten-whale-groups-slam-atlantic-osw/
In short, even the evergreen Boston Globe had to admit that the potential for offshore wind development harming whales is significant. Moreover NOAA has clearly been warned about this threat.
The CFACT et al lawsuit is simply calling for this risk to be properly evaluated by NOAA for North Atlantic Right Whales as required by the Endangered Species Act. This is a risk that NOAA has carefully ignored in the headlong rush to needlessly industrialize the ocean with thousands of enormous wind towers.
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I find it interesting that the very people that have fought to protect whales, cried over the tiny snail darter, and blew a fuse over owls in timber country, and who have fought various industrialization are the same people that are OK with industrial strength/sized monstrosities being built in the pristine oceans. Destroying the endless ocean views is the least of their environmental destruction: producing the inescapable, horrible infra-sound must do untold damage to all life, especially mammals that count on native sounds from others in their species. Imagine too how these animals will never have respite from the intensively invasive noise.
The very people that used to purport to be for God’s creatures were actually for destroying western economies and culture.
Sure they were fighting to protect whales, fish, and owls when the narrative supported undermining industrial progress in western civilization.
There are also financial incentives to support their actions. There’s an old saying that there’s money in chaos. Many sleazy profiteers are more than willing to capitalize on government largesse supporting uneconomical, polluting, inefficient monstrosities such as windmills and solar panels. They are ecological disasters that have the added insult to humanity of utilizing slaves and unsafe working conditions to child labor.
Those people are not our or humanity’s friends.
FJB
$200 trillion is the estimate Bloomberg’s green energy research team estimates it will cost to stop warming by 2050.
There is a lot of profit to be made.
And Bloomberg is more than willing to feed at the trough.
That is just the ice above water level. Pick a topic. For example, According to the National Organization for Women (NOW): Opposing trans athletes in girls’ sports is “White supremacist patriarchy”.
An ever growing list.
How lunatic can people get? We clearly need to control education.
Just goes to show you that the goal was NEVER about protecting the environment.
The North Atlantic Right Whale, so named because it was the “right whale” to hunt for oil and ambergris, was last harvested in 1936, though commercial whaling was not outlawed, finally, until 1986. That was because of the constant cry of the environmentalists to “Save the Whales!” That was the same year that Captain Kirk and the Enterprise crew traveled into the past to save the last two whales off the San Francisco coast (“George and Gracie”) in Star Trek IV, “The Voyage Home.”
Now the self-proclaimed environmentalists have apparently lost their compassion, and are embarrassed by their former battle cry.
I wonder: If Jason Momoa returned to the silver screen as Aquaman in an epic struggle to save the North Atlantic Right Whale from the evil windmills, would it have any effect on public opinion? More importantly, would Disney, Inc. ever allow such a thing to happen?
To ask the question is to answer it
The absence of an answer is an answer, too.
They say it’s not happening.
then when it becomes unavoidable they will say we were forced to it for “the greater good”.
Important not to let them off the hook for their actions
We need to save the North Atlantic Right Whales & farm them !!
Without them, there will be no oil for our grandchildren’s oil lamps as they huddle around dung fires in yurts & pole huts.
The term ” Spreading Misinformation” is the new argumentum ad hominem that people who claim to be news reporters like to use.
It’s the main argument for the “authors” of this site.
Why do you come here. It seems you would be better off, less angst, etc., viewing websites you agree with.
It’s fun here. And if you get angsty when someone disagrees with you, that’s your problem. Although it would explain why people are so angry here…
You are misinterpreting an expression of pity over unnecessary ignorance with anger.
Getting into flame wars is non-productive.
I am all for open, mature discussions with all points of view respected.
Attacking the poster is no respect. Challenging the points made is what should (repeat should) happen.
It’s a grade school science requirement.
I’ve yet to see you even attempt to refute anything written here.
27 monster projects line the Atlantic:
https://www.boem.gov/sites/default/files/documents/renewable-energy/state-activities/BOEM-NY-Bight-OCS-Renew-Energy-Lease-Area.pdf
some clusters block the shelf
I suspect the whales will survive wind farms at sea. But, the real problem is the immense cost of these installations. The focus should be on the cost because the proponents will never admit to any ecological threats. It’s easier to determine costs than hypothetical eco threats.
Cost means nothing to these scum
It means nothing to them but it means a lot to “we the people”. We need to inform everyone of what their electric bill will be when we arrive at net zero nirvana. It won’t be much of a problem for the wealthy- but for the vast majority of us, it’ll mean poverty and a low energy life style.
If it’s not reported, then it means nothing.
The politicos pushing this insanity don’t care what “we the people” think as they will be long gone by the time the chickens come back to roost. But their heirs will be well taken care of.
Unlike other private construction projects, no one is being charged to post a surety bond if they vote to fund an expensive untested cure for a future problem which may never happen.
Recall that in the James Blish SF series Cities in Flight, the city mayors were given carte blanche to engage in work contracts, but if they failed they were executed.
High costs mean more profits!
Given just the sound, perhaps they might survive. But there are other environmental factors not in this current discussion, such as changes to the local environment, wind, temperature, ocean flow, sediment, ozone production, that makes it more probabilistic they do not survive.
The goal is the destruction of western economies. Whales don’t mean squat sh*t to these evil bastards.
True, CFACT doesn’t care about whales. And their sponsors would sell the west to russia if it brings them more money.
Do you care about the whales?
My question not answered.
That is a rather strong allegation. What evidence do you have to support it?
What other environmental topics does cfact care about?
Seems to be only when renewables are involved. From an organisation getting money from FF. You have to be a really blind believer to think they are the next greenpeace.
CFACT does a lot of conservation work.
https://www.cfact.org/stewardship-in-action/
Of course not.
It’s that what your cell master told you to believe?
https://www.nrdc.org/stories/lies-koch-brothers-tell
Ten years old and wrong on all counts! Also NRDC is one of the giant green groups that has abandoned the whales in favor of wind.
Even if true, and at least 3 of the so called lies are not true, it is peanuts compared to what Biden is giving away and Bloomberg, and Soros, and a lot of others are doing to fund the green and extinction rebellion, and stop the oil, and about 150 other activist organizations.
On the balance, the activists are much better funded.
Oh, of course, and you surely have the numbers to back it up.
The IRA alone gives hundreds of billions to offshore wind starting with a 30% investment tax credit, now upped to 40% if the project office is in a transition threatened town.
Yes, but for some odd reason I suspect you would dispute them even if posted.
More than $1B has been funded to those activists, not including the $500M from Biden, versus a few $100K funding for CFACT and other “contrary/denier” groups.
The propaganda is strong in this one.
So strong it’s pushed out any tiny remnant of intelligence. It has become a propaganda zombie!
The political appointees of the new POTUS MUST make all “civil servant” “scientists” who developed the myriad of reports that have massively failed to do what is REQUIRED to be done identify each and every sentence they individually had a part in writing within 30 days of that directive.
Any sentence not claimed shall be investigated and the person who wrote it shall be fired. (The Congress having authorized that outcome, while also directing that federal employees shall no longer be able to “collectively bargain”. (end of all federal unions)
Any sentence that provides a verifiably false outcome, the person responsible shall be fired.
Any sentence that attempts to extend “science” beyond the provable, i.e., liberal propaganda, shall be fired.
Any person fired shall be banned from EVER working for the federal government or for ANY company who contracts with the federal government, or receives funds from the federal government such as Student Loans. Yep, they can drive for Uber or Lift.
The only way to reverse the employment embargo is to plead directly to the POTUS with a complete explanation of WHY they did what they did (lied) much like a person must do in court when accepting a plea agreement. Then the choice is for the POTUS to make, with the ability to still restrict what areas they can work in. I would think anything above janitor/landscaper would still be restricted. The US would no longer NEED illegal aliens for those jobs, there will be plenty of liberal activist pseudo scientists to do the jobs.
BTW: Florida and Texas have both passed laws outlawing DEI in their educational institutions. The U of T, Austin, terminated 60 people to clear out their DEI organization. Many have also been terminated in Florida. DEI, like about everything liberals do, is just about making employment opportunities for liberals. A US representative has proposed legislation that would institute that in any University that receives US funds.
Same as defund the police movement. All the policies that were proposed were to decrease the number of police, generally conservative MEN, and replace them with “mental health care” workers, liberals and generally WOMEN.
End rant.
Conservatives have no right in protecting threatened species! How dare they!
The threatened species they protect:
On the other hand, any lawsuit against a pipeline or drilling is not only legitimate, but is assumed to be already proven.
How to Stop Whale Deaths from Real Threats, Not Lies About Wind Energy
https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/how-to-stop-whale-deaths-from-real-threats-not-lies-about-wind-energy/
Except there is good evidence linking OSW and whale death. Large scale sonar activity began in 2016. That year the humpback death rate tripled and has stayed high since. That year the right whale population decline began and has continued since. The recent die off coincided with a huge increae in sonar activity. In a criminal trial this would be enough evidence to convict but the Bidenites ignore it.
Very sad to see Greebpeace joining their argument from ignorance.
See my https://www.cfact.org/2023/01/30/feds-push-ignorance-defense-for-whale-killing-by-offshore-wind-development/
also https://www.cfact.org/2022/12/21/ten-whale-groups-slam-atlantic-osw/ where ten groups of whale experts officially told NOAA this sonar threat was very serious.
All whales must be killed to save them from climateclownry!
I noted that the sound levels that are considered ok in the ocean for whales are more than two times those which are deemed harmful to human hearing in the workplace. At 85 db hearing protection must be worn and at 135 db sustained engineering controls are required. Apparently 190db is fine for whales.
Air and water dB are different.
“To compare noise levels in water to noise levels in air, one must subtract 26 dB from the noise level referenced in water.”
https://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/sound01/background/acoustics/acoustics.html#:~:text=To%20compare%20noise%20levels%20in,noise%20level%20referenced%20in%20water.
To that you also have to account for energy transfer. The impact of lesser dB in water in energy is roughly the same as higher dB in air, given a constant energy source. Granted sound in air travels faster.
Human hearing is most sensitive in the frequencies of normal speech. For whales and other aquatic mammals the first, most probable assumption is the same. That means, from this article, that they are being assaulted at the frequencies to which they are most vulnerable. There are also a great many other non-mammalian species in the water that are likely to be effected by loud noise.
Whales may have more durable hearing than humans, or may not. The specified sound levels will cause great pain and immediate, permanent hearing loss in humans. The difference from normal specified’ “25 to 35 dB higher” will cause progressive, permanent hearing loss in humans. It seems clear that the proponents of going forward with their plans without adequate studies are operating in pure ignorance whereas their own “precautionary principal” should result in exactly the opposite behavior.
Larger species lower frequency bandwidth.
““At this point, there is no scientific evidence that noise resulting from offshore wind site characterization surveys could potentially cause whale deaths,” NOAA said”
Yeah So go get the scientific evidence already! That’s all concerned people are asking. Please don’t go ahead with the project without it. Duh!
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