Reposted from the NoTricksZone
By P Gosselin
Cold Far More Deadly Than Heat
Everyone knows that weather extremes like storms and extreme temperatures cause deaths. According to global warming alarmists, more heat will mean more deaths, and so it would be better if temperatures cooled off to levels seen 50 years ago.
Source: Ingole et al
However, a new paper: “Mortality risk attributable to high and low ambient temperature in Pune city, India: A time series analysis from 2004 to 2012“, led by Vijendra Ingole of the King Abdullah University of Science and Technology in Saudi Arabia, looked at the relevance of ambient temperature as a risk factor for health in urban Pune city, India and found that the total number of attributable deaths due to cold is higher than heat.Focus on cold reveals it’s far deadlier
According to the study, most of studies assessing the effects of non-optimum temperatures on health and have been conducted in the developed world, whereas in India, the limited evidence on ambient temperature and health risks and has focused mostly on the effects of heat waves. But the authors focused on short term association between all temperatures and mortality in urban Pune, India.
The team of scientists applied a model to derive temperature-mortality associations based on daily mean temperature and all-cause mortality records of Pune city from the year January 2004 to December 2012 and calculated temperature attributable mortality fractions for total heat and total cold.
Men hit harder
The analysis provides estimates of the total mortality burden attributable to ambient temperature. Overall, 6∙5% of deaths registered in the observational period were attributed to non-optimal temperatures. But the cold effect (5.72%) was nearly 7 times greater than heat 0∙84%.
Moreover: “The gender stratified analysis revealed that the highest burden among men both for heat and cold.”
but that’ll be changing, won’t it?
Yep.
Even more poor old folks will be croaking from hypothermia because they can’t afford home heating as a result of lunatic green energy policies like banking 100% electricity coming from wind & solar.
Criminal prosecutions should be launched against the enablers and perpetrators of the wind & solar deceits.
Pretty sure that he meant the findings in the paper. Isn’t that right, Griff?
“but that’ll be changing, won’t it?”
Not likely. The major change in temperatures is not in the direction of higher maximum temperatures, but rather warmer minimum temperatures. So the change will be in the direction or more survivors…Isn’t that a good thing, Griff?
Yep that 2 degrees is really going to make a difference … oh dear Griff I hope you don’t wear a jumper you might die.
I very much doubt it, Griff mate
We can but hope
Cold weather kills many more people than hot weather. Link
When? Hi, griff. Thought you were hiding in your basement.
He has probably been crying over Twitter being de-nazified.
No, just the other way round.
Why would it? People seem to thrive in the tropics. I believe you are what’s known as a shit-stirrer.
In one sentence, griff confirms that he doesn’t even understand what he espouses.
The average high in April is 100 degrees. The average low in the coldest month is 52. It should have already changed. Pune temperatures are higher than what 98% of the population would experience even in the most catastrophic scenarios.
Saudi Arabian researcher claims heat is less harmful?
Oil exporting country researcher claims fossil-fueled climate warming is beneficial?
CONFLICT OF INTEREST! Cancel this!
It’s not a ‘one-size-fits-all world’, you do realise?
Billions of people in China, Scandanavian countries, Russia, North America would welcome warmer climates.
So would food growers and consumers throughout the world.
I’m guessing that you think that 80% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the Lower 48 border with the United States because they are escaping cold and looking for warmth. So, what the heck is Tradeau doing trying (an act of futility) to cool down the earth?
He’s griff’s special friend?
Food growers welcome more CO2 too.
Seems I need to open a sarcasmeter repair business.
You can borrow mine Felix 🙂
Stupid Idiot posting .. Cancel this.
Fun satirical comment.
So, India and China are increasing coal consumption. And now a new study in India proves that is a GOOD thing because cold kills so warmer is better. Climate alarmists will assert Fossil Fuel Industry paid for propaganda!!
The highest Indian CV-19 attributed deaths last year happened during May, the hottest month:
The highest number of active cases was in mid May at nearly 4 M, up from half a million at the end of March. The other three peaks in deaths correlate well with peaks in active cases, Sep 2020 and Feb this year, and lower mortality with new strains.
Your plots are deliberately misleading.
The point was sicknesses for 2021 did not follow the pattern from the post. My information is factual, and I don’t care if other periods were different, and who knows whether ‘new strains’ are real and not just useful rhetorical fabrications.
Do you have an explanation for why in 2021 there were fewer CV-19 deaths in the cold season than the warm season? If cold deaths are supposed to outnumber by 7x warm deaths (as a rule per the post?) how did this happen? Did you address that issue?
I’m not sure what you are trying to convey here (that heat actually DOES kill more, or some sort of Virus claim bent) but the study looked at the years 2004-2012. Trying to throw in data from a pandemic in an attempt to refute a study’s conclusions about temperature (not pandemic) deaths seems a little dis-ingenuous if not a bit of a red-herring argument.
“Do you have an explanation for why in 2021 there were fewer CV-19 deaths in the cold season than the warm season?”
You cherry picked your data. This year, there was a spike in cases in one of the coldest months and a corresponding spike in daily deaths. In 2020, it happened in a much cooler month than May. There is only a correlation if you cherry pick your data and if only data for daily deaths for 2021 were available, there would still be a one in 12 chance that it was a coincidence so not conclusive. The spike in active cases which happened in different sessons in other years, clearly shows that it’s just a coincidence.
I like to define science as the art of discovering that you were wrong. That’s why cherry picking data and censorship are so anti-science. If this paper is wrong, its for someother reason.
Wait a minute – both hot and cold are due to CO2 climate change so it all counts as climate deaths. In fact, since we all live embedded in a climate, all deaths are due to CO2 if you ever go outdoors. This explains why modern-day weather-forecasters never go outside.
Another BS study! Root blame at its best.
When I was a kid, I made good pocket change shoveling snow, racking leaves, and mowing lawns. I remember an old retired guy had a heart attack and died shoveling snow.
When I retired, I figured the biggest risk is a slow death by recliner. So I keep busy often with manual labor.
Many years ago, I did root cause analysis. One of the rules is weather is never a root cause.
So if I have done things hundreds of times, in all kinds of weather, and get old and die; what is the cause of my death?
Statistics do not identify the root cause to prevent future deaths. Poor public planning to protect vulnerable populations in extreme weather conditions is often the root cause.
“Poor public planning to protect vulnerable populations in extreme weather conditions is often the root cause.”
In most of the studies finding that cold kills more people, they do suspect that lack of preparedness for the cold is the reason.
Pune is at an elevation of 560 m and has summer rains. Record low is 1.7 C in January, record high 43.4 C in May. It is a well developed city with lots of IT services and a population of over 3 million.
It is worth noting that the paper has an unusual definition of “extreme cold”. In January in Pune the average maximum temperature is about 30C and this while the minimum recorded temperature in their study was about 14C. So their definition of extreme cold would count as a heat wave in many places. And not only that according to their analysis if the temperature drops to 15 degrees for a day then you are signficantly less likely to die that day but a lot more likely to die in 20 days time.
You learned what “relatively” is.
They ‘applied a model’, ie made stuff up.
Stopped reading right there.
I think the model is more along the lines of the type discussed by Box and Draper in this book, Tinny. Nothing at all like the GCMs.
(Empirical Model Building and Response Surface Methodology, Box and Draper)
https://books.google.com/books/about/Empirical_model_building_and_response_su.html?id=QO2dDRufJEAC
10 times, in the UK.
In other breaking news…”water is wet”.
Hold on….climate science has redefined dihydrogen monoxide as pollution
because it warms the earth.
We must drastically reduce the amount in our atmosphere ASAP
because newly updated climate models show that H2O is destroying the,planet,
It ranges from 11C to 38 C,. https://www.google.com/search?q=Pune+induia+climate&rlz=1C1PRFI_enGB909GB909&oq=Pune+induia+climate&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i13j0i390l4.2987j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Much warmer than the rest of the world, yet even there, cold is a greater killer.
Climate Change is one big fat lie!
Excessive alcohol consumption is the primary cause of cold deaths, heat causes fainting…so the cold versus hot deaths thing isn’t a very good skeptic’s argument, except maybe with respect to possible bad outcomes for drunks.
What’s the difference between passing out blind drunk and fainting, DMac?
Just my guess here, but if you go down in the cold, you’re no longer generating heat from exertion, and you risk hypothermia. If you faint in the heat, you’re no longer generating heat from exertion, which would seem to be a good thing.
But as Kit P points out above, conditioning has a lot to do with deaths from heat or cold. I should hope the researchers checked if that was a major cofactor.
And, of course you fail to cite where to find those facts.
Until proof is available, your alleged claim is specious.
nope, still would have lived if it was warm
another 20 degrees of warming and this trend might reverse
remember kids, in 2022 no place on Earth is too hot for life, only too dry or too cold