Guest “explaining what the API did” by David Middleton
Note: The primary purpose of this post is simply to lay out what the API has actually endorsed regarding carbon pricing. If you don’t want to know what they proposed, just skip to the comments section and heckle them. The secondary purpose is to explain why I think tax credits for reducing net CO2 emissions are far less economically destructive than a carbon tax. The former is currently in the tax code. The latter is a real possibility in the near future. If you think the greenhouse effect violates some law(s) of thermodynamics, just skip to the comments section and heckle me.
Variations of this headline have been all over the news the past few days…
America’s most powerful oil lobby is changing its tune on a carbon tax
By Matt Egan, CNN Business
Updated 2:49 PM ET, Thu March 25, 2021
New York (CNN Business)The oil industry’s most powerful lobbying group announced Thursday that for the first time it will support setting a price on carbon, a significant shift that underlines intensifying pressure on Washington and business to tackle the climate crisis.
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CNN
The catch-phrase seems to be that the API has endorsed a carbon tax, which is not the case. This is what the API has endorsed:
Industry Action Plan:
- Accelerate Technology and Innovation to reduce emissions while meeting growing energy needs
- Advocate for Federal Funding for Low-Carbon RD&D
- Fast-track the Commercial Deployment of Carbon Capture, Utilization and Storage (CCUS)
- Advance Hydrogen Technology, Innovation, and Infrastructure
- Further Mitigate Emissions from Operations to advance additional environmental progress
- Advance Direct Regulation of Methane from New and Existing Sources
- Develop Methane Detection Technologies
- Promote Reductions in Refinery GHG Emissions and Mitigate Upstream Flaring Emissions
- Endorse a Carbon Price Policy by government to drive economywide, market-based solutions
- Potential Approach Would Price Carbon Dioxide Emissions Across the Economy
- Support Policies that Provide Transparency for Consumers
- Minimize Duplicative Regulations and Help Maintain U.S. Competitiveness
- Avoid Carbon Leakage and Integrate with Global Carbon Markets, while Focusing on Net Emissions
- Advance Cleaner Fuels to provide lower-carbon choices for consumers
- Develop Markets for Differentiated U.S. Natural Gas
- Support Policies to Advance Lower-Carbon Electricity
- Reduce Lifecycle Emissions in the Transportation Sector
- Drive Climate Reporting to provide consistency and transparency
- Expand Use of ESG Reporting Guidance for the Natural Gas & Oil Industry
- Report Comparable Climate-Related Indicators in New Template
- Build on the API Compendium of Greenhouse Gas Emissions Methodologies for the Natural Gas and Oil Industry
The outline above is directly quoted from the API statement. It doesn’t really strike me as a significant shift in the API’s position.
The belief that the API has endorsed a carbon tax appears to be based on its endorsement of a “Carbon Price Policy.” This is the only mention of a “carbon tax” in the API statement:
Rather than a patchwork of federal and state regulations and mandates that could ineffectively address the climate challenge, an economywide government carbon price policy is the most impactful and transparent way to achieve meaningful progress. We recognize there are different ways for policymakers to consider carbon pricing – from a cap-and-trade system to a carbon tax – but there are some general parameters to begin the discussion.
API
In my view, the API’s two key carbon price policy parameters are:
Maintain U.S. Competitiveness: The goal of a carbon price policy should be to achieve GHG emissions reductions at the least cost to society, to meet the dual challenge of continued U.S. economic growth and global competitiveness while addressing the risks of climate change.
Focus on Net Emissions: Attention should be given to net GHG emissions such that ongoing voluntary actions are recognized and the trading and use of applicable credits and offsets is allowed.
API
Maintain U.S. Competitiveness
One of the most frequently cited carbon tax proposals is the Baker-Schultz Carbon Dividend Plan. It’s also referred to as a “conservative” or “free market” climate plan. It’s neither. Half of it is straight out of Fantasyland. This plan would impose a tax on CO2 emissions. The revenue generated by this tax would then be rebated to the American people:
All the proceeds from this carbon tax would be returned to the American people on an equal and monthly basis via dividend checks, direct deposits or contributions to their individual retirement accounts. In the example above, a family of four would receive approximately $2,000 in carbon dividend payments in the first year. This amount would grow over time as the carbon tax rate increases, creating a positive feedback loop: the more the climate is protected, the greater the individual dividend payments to all Americans. The Social Security Administration should administer this program, with eligibility for dividends based on a valid social security number.
Climate Leadership Council
Who actually believes that any tax bill passed by the U.S. Congress would actually rebate any of the proceeds, much less all of them, equally to the American people? The current proposal calls for the tax to start at $43/ton of CO2 and then to escalate 5% per year. Fortunately, this regressive tax plan did not make it into the eleventy gazillion dollar infrastructure plan working its way through Congress. This is what a carbon tax would add to the price of gasoline, natural gas and coal:
| Tax ($/ton of CO2) | $ 35 | $ 43 | $ 65 | $ 175 | $ 250 |
| Gasoline ($/gal) | $ 0.31 | $ 0.38 | $ 0.58 | $ 1.54 | $ 2.20 |
| Natural Gas ($/mcf) | $ 1.86 | $ 2.26 | $ 3.45 | $ 9.30 | $ 13.30 |
| Coal ($/short ton) | $ 73.53 | $ 90.33 | $ 136.55 | $ 367.63 | $ 525.18 |
Here is the tax as a percentage of recent average U.S. prices:
| Tax ($/ton of CO2) | $ 35 | $ 43 | $ 65 | $ 175 | $ 250 |
| Gasoline – Retail w/taxes ($2.18/gal) | 14% | 18% | 26% | 71% | 101% |
| Natural Gas – Electricity ($3.30/mcf) | 56% | 69% | 104% | 282% | 403% |
| Coal ($59.43 /short ton) | 124% | 152% | 230% | 619% | 884% |
An average U.S. motorist drives 13,500 miles per year. The average U.S. passenger vehicle gets about 25 miles per gallon. At $43/ton CO2 tax could cost the average driver $167/yr.
| Average U.S. Driver: 13,500 miles/yr, 25 miles/gal | |||||
| Tax ($/ton of CO2) | $ 35 | $ 43 | $ 65 | $ 175 | $ 250 |
| Gasoline tax ($/yr) | $ 167 | $ 208 | $ 311 | $ 834 | $ 1,190 |
The average U.S. electricity bill in 2019 was $115/month. Fossil fuels account for 60% of U.S. electricity generation (20% coal, 40% natural gas). This is what a CO2 tax could do to the average electricity bill:
| Average Electric Bill ($115/month) | |||||
| Tax ($/ton of CO2) | $ 35 | $ 43 | $ 65 | $ 175 | $ 250 |
| Electricity tax ($/yr) | $ 653 | $ 798 | $ 1,211 | $ 3,264 | $ 4,664 |
Even if the hypothetical “family of four” actually received $2,000 in carbon dividends, they would only have $906 left after accounting for higher gas and electricity prices. And this doesn’t even begin to take into account the increased cost of just about everything else that requires to coal, oil or natural gas in manufacturing and transportation. “Maintain U.S. competitiveness” doesn’t seem to fit this ticket.
Focus on Net Emissions
I can’t find any mention of net emissions in the Carbon Dividend plan.
There’s more than one way to price carbon
The API does strongly endorse one method of pricing CO2 that maintains U.S. competitiveness and focuses on net emissions…
Fast-Track The Commercial Deployment Of Carbon Capture, Utilization And Storage (CCUS):
The United States is the world leader in deploying CCUS technology. The U.S. has 12 commercial-scale, operating CCUS facilities, capable of capturing approximately 25 million metric tons (MMT) of CO2 annually. In 2018, operators reported capturing more than 13 MMT of CO2 for use with enhanced oil recovery. An additional 22 U.S. carbon capture facilities are being developed. Many are associated with natural gas power generation, though natural gas and oil firms are also partnering with other industrial firms to expand CCUS in heavy industry. API supports federal policies to achieve the “at-scale phase” of CCUS commercial deployment, consistent with the 2019 findings of the National Petroleum Council. This includes extending and expanding the 45Q tax credit and permitting reforms to streamline CO2 infrastructure development.
API
- CCS: Carbon capture & storage/sequestration.
- Capture CO2, CH4, CO, etc. from emission point sources.
- Inject it into depleted oil & gas reservoirs and/or saline aquifer formations.
- CCUS: Carbon capture, utilization & storage.
- Capture CO2, CH4, CO, etc. from emission point sources.
- Utilize the gases for enhanced oil recovery (EOR) and other industrial/agricultural purposes.
The U.S. was already the world leader in CCS/CCUS before the November 2020 coup d’état.


Unlike the regressive carbon tax, the 45Q CCS/CCUS tax credit enjoys strong bipartisan support and will likely be enhanced and expanded with the Carbon Capture Utilization and Storage Tax Credit Amendments Act.
Why do anything?
I know that most of my fellow climate change skeptics think that the API is just virtue signaling, greenwashing and/or rent seeking and that there is no climate problem to be solved… However, the people who make the laws think otherwise, even many Republicans. Businesses and the trade groups that represent them have to obey the laws and actually have a fiduciary responsibility to encourage government to craft regulatory policies that are as business-friendly as possible.
While I can’t speak for the API, I know that some manner of carbon pricing is inevitable. It’s just a matter of when and how our government inflicts it upon our economy.
My position is to encourage government to take the least economically destructive path in reducing carbon emissions. Furthermore, while I know that the climate is relatively insensitive to CO2 and that the increase in atmospheric CO2 and warming since the 1800’s have been beneficial to mankind and I’m fairly certain that even at 600 ppm, the benefits will still outweigh the costs, my crystal ball gets really fuzzy beyond that. That’s why I support economically sustainable measures to reduce the carbon intensity of energy production, provided these measures do not negatively affect our continued access to affordable, reliable energy. This would mean maintaining a significant coal-fired capacity and expanding natural gas and nuclear power generation, while fast tracking the commercial deployment of CCS/CCUS.
The API’s Industry Action Plan won’t materially protect us from whatever the climate may or may not do in the future; but it could protect us from even worse things that our government is quite capable of doing.

The lesser of two evils is still Elvis!
If you insist on “perfect” and you think you can convince the government to end it’s war on CO2 emissions and not impose some manner of carbon pricing…
CCS/CCUS can’t solve the problem… even if it exists
The U.S. Energy Information Administration estimates that in 2019, the United States emitted 5.1 billion metric tons of energy-related carbon dioxide, while the global emissions of energy-related carbon dioxide totaled 33.1 billion metric tons.
USGS
The Bureau of Economic Geology at the University of Texas estimates that the geological storage capacity in Miocene strata under Texas state waters is 172 Gt CO2.

172 Gt CO2 is equivalent to 34 years of U.S. energy-related CO2 emissions. That’s a small fraction of the rest of the Gulf of Mexico. There is no lack of pore space for CO2 storage in the subsurface.
Lake Nyos!
That’s a big, fat no!
What happened at Lake Nyos?
On August 21, 1986, Lake Nyos in Cameroon “exploded” in a limnic eruption. The eruption released about 1 cubic kilometre of CO2, or about 1 billion cubic metres, killing 1,800 people and 3,000 animals.
Lake Nyos sits inside a volcanic crater. Carbon dioxide, escaping from underground volcanic chimneys, is continuously dissolves and concentrates at the bottom of the lake. In 1986, an earthquake triggered a landslide, which disrupted the stratified layers of water and “overturned” the lake. The CO2-rich water from the bottom rose to the surface and the gas burst out. Heavier than air, it flowed down the sides of the volcano and into adjacent valleys where it asphyxiated all living beings in its path.
Other lakes of this type exist around the world. In most of these cases, preventative degassing of the deeper waters is now underway.
It is important to understand that this scenario would never happen at a geological storage site where CO2 gas is stored at least 800 metres underground and is therefore isolated from the atmosphere.
Groupe de recherche sur les ressources énergétiques des bassins sédimentaires du Québec
The Lake Nyos CO2 was in a concentrated in a layer of water at the bottom of a stratified lake in a volcanic crater. The geological storage window starts at a depth of about 1,000 meters, where CO2 is a supercritical liquid. It would be injected in formations where there was a demonstrable competent top-seal and in the case of depleted oil & gas reservoirs, a structural and/or stratigraphic trap that had successfully stored oil & gas for hundreds of thousands to many millions of years. Unlike volcanic lakes in Cameroon, U,S. geological CCS sites require Class VI permits, requiring extensive monitoring.
Carbon vs. carbon dioxide
I’m fairly certain I’ve used carbon and carbon dioxide/CO2 correctly in this post.
- Carbon emissions include CO2, CH4, CO and other carbon compound gas emissions.
- Carbon taxes are often enumerated in U.S. dollars per ton of CO2-equivalent.
- Carbon cycle includes, but is not limited to:
- Photosynthetic conversion of atmospheric CO2 into O2 and energy-rich organic compounds.
- Combustion of hydrocarbon fuels yielding atmospheric CO2 and H2O.
The Greenhouse effect violates some law of thermodynamics
Why did you even read this far? Since you’re already here, go ahead and read this too: Skeptical Arguments that Don’t Hold Water by Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D.
Virtue signalling is going to destroy our standard of living by needlessly driving up the cost of the most important element to a vibrant economy, ENERGY.
China will benefit at our expense.
I think this post or a version of it belongs in Everything Climate. The tables on what the carbon taxes mean in real economic terms are valuable.
And if I don’t think that the greenhouse effect violates some “some law(s) of thermodynamics,” and am opposed to carbon credits and taxes for a bunch of other reasons?
Then you would actually be discussing the subject matter… 🍺🍺
The American Petroleum Institute supporting Carbon Tax is a sly way to accelerate the demise of the coal industry. API is aware that natural gas is the best competitor to coal for generating electricity, not solar/wind/hydro/bio/nuclear. The sooner the coal competition is squashed, the faster growth in the natural gas industry.
The sad fact in this upside down world is that coal is the fuel that should be subsidized. Coal is a reliable, low cost, clean way to produce electricity. CO2 is not evil. It is good. CO2 will not cause catastrophic global warming. CO2 helps green the earth improving plant and animal ecosystems. CO2 will improve efficiency of agriculture and help feed mankind.
We need to subsidize industries doing the most good, like generating the most CO2, and not the ones doing the most damage to our ecosystems (solar, wind, bio…).
did they factor in a squintillion dollars (not to say civilization itself) saved by preventing the next 20 or so re-glaciations?
IPCC remains adamant that is a real thing
So, the “people” running API are simply another set of hucksters and liars. Got it.
You can always tell a lukewarmer.
But you can’t tell them much!
[QUOTE FROM ARTICLE ON BAKER-SCHULTZ PROGRAM] “All the proceeds from this carbon tax would be returned to the American people on an equal and monthly basis via dividend checks, direct deposits or contributions to their individual retirement accounts. In the example above, a family of four would receive approximately $2,000 in carbon dividend payments in the first year. This amount would grow over time as the carbon tax rate increases, creating a positive feedback loop: the more the climate is protected, the greater the individual dividend payments to all Americans. The Social Security Administration should administer this program, with eligibility for dividends based on a valid social security number.”
What would be the purpose of this? If a “carbon tax” or CO2 tax was imposed on all emitters, the emitting companies would simply pass the tax on to the consumers–increased prices for gasoline, Diesel fuel, electric power generated from coal or natural gas, etc.
If the proceeds are to be “returned to the American people”, who decides which Americans get how much? Is it based on income, number of children, age, how? How much money would be taken out by the government to administer this program? This wouldn’t really provide any incentive for people to reduce their consumption of fossil fuels, since any group that receives more in “dividends” than they pay in carbon taxes would have a perverse incentive to increase their CO2 emissions. This would merely be a government income redistribution program, nothing more, nothing less, particularly if it was administered by the Social Security Administration, home of the empty trust fund.
Regarding Carbon Capture and Storage, if industry currently captures 25 million tons of CO2 per year, but the US emits 5.1 billion tons per year of CO2, the US only captures 0.49% of its own CO2 emissions, and other countries (particularly China) capture an even smaller fraction of their emissions. If there was a “carbon tax” of $35 per ton CO2, some large power generators may be incentivized to get an $875 million tax break (total for all US companies), but it would have a negligible effect on the total world CO2 emissions.
The problem with CO2 sequestration is that the CO2, which is normally generated at low pressure, needs to be compressed to over 1100 psig (above the critical pressure) in order to be safely stored underground. The power required for compression is roughly 20% of the power generated by a natural-gas fired plant, or about 30% of the power generated by a coal-fired plant. This results in less net power generated per ton fuel, or a higher fuel utilization for the same net power generation. The power companies would be consuming more precious resources in order to bury a harmless gas underground.
Carbon dioxide has been used for decades for “enhanced oil recovery” (EOR), by injecting pressurized CO2 into depleted oil formations. The CO2 causes the oil in these formations to expand, which results in additional oil (and some natural gas) coming to the surface, as well as some of the injected CO2. The companies using EOR usually have a separation plant at the surface to separate oil, natural gas, and CO2, with the CO2 compressed and recycled into the ground while the oil and natural gas are processed and sold for fuel. Carbon dioxide is favored for EOR over injection of air, since with CO2 there is no risk of a flammable mixture which could cause an underground explosion.
This process can be profitable for the operating companies even without a “carbon tax”, but the amount of CO2 that remains underground is much less than the CO2 emitted by burning the recovered oil and natural gas. Of course the API would be favorable to Enhanced Oil Recovery (because it enables increased production), but it does not reduce net CO2 emissions.
“All the proceeds from this carbon [sic] tax would be returned to the American people on an equal and monthly basis via dividend checks, direct deposits or contributions to their individual retirement accounts.”
The problem is rebating the increase in fuel prices will only cover one cost of this tax. Since the tax is a transportation tax and makes transportation more expensive, this means that everything a person buys will increase in price, not just gasoline.
They refund you your CO2 taxes, but they don’t refund the increased costs for everything else you buy.
A CO2 tax will ruin the U.S. economy.
Carbon Dioxide is net beneficial to the environment by a large margin. It is currently at near record lows, in geological terms. If the catastrophists were right, the more recent CO2 high-stands would have destroyed the Earth and we would never have been able to evolve. Any effort to reduce CO2 in the atmosphere is not only misguided, it is detrimental to the well being of the entire planet.
From the article: “I’m fairly certain I’ve used carbon and carbon dioxide/CO2 correctly in this post.”
I don’t think you have. The alarmists mean CO2 when they say Carbon. They have no other by-products in mind.
So saying Carbon in this context is equating Carbon with Carbon Dioxide, and they are two different things.
We should be as precise as possible in our writings. Otherwise, the Left bastardizes and confuses the language even more. Global Warming = Climate Change Carbon = Carbon Dioxide.
NO! Call it what it is. We are talking about taxing Carbon Dioxide.
Which by the way, is the worst idea these idiots can have up with so far. Everything we buy needs to be transported somewhere, and If the cost of transportation is raised, then the cost of *everything* in the economy is raised, to the detriment of the poorest in our society. The poor will not escape the price hikes.
Taxing transportation harms the poorest in society the most. The United States would be better off getting money for bridge and road repair from the General Tax Fund rather than from a specific tax on transportation.
Taking money out of the General Tax Fund would not take money out of poor people’s pockets, since most of the poor don’t pay any taxes, or very little. But they can’t escape a carbon dioxide tax, no matter how poor they are. It will hit the poor and everyone else, from all directions, if transportation costs go up.
Fund road and bridge repairs from the General Tax Fund. Leave transportation costs, and those who depend on them, alone.
I suppose you could call it a CO2-equivalent tax or CO2-equivalent emissions… But neither a carbon tax, nor carbon emissions exclusively refer to CO2.
I think you are just making an excuse to conform to the alamist consensus. Everybody is calling it “carbon” so some people feel compelled to conform, even if it is not correct. And then they go trying to rationalize their choice.
Anytime I post a quote with “carbon” in it, I intend to add “[sic] to designate that it is a mistake faithfully reproduced.
Distorting reality is not good for science or anything else.
Tha alarmists are trying to reduce CO2 in the atmosphere, nothing else. That’s why they are taxing CO2 and nothing else. There is very little carbon, if any, floating around in the atmosphere. If you talk about taxing carbon you are distorting and confusing the picture.
Don’t play the alamists game. Call them out when they incorrectly refer to carbon dioxide as carbon. Show how uninformed they really are by showing they don’t know the difference between the two.
I think we have definitely entered into an Idiocracy in the Western world and the delusions seem to be spreading.
Let’s go along to get along. No, let’s not. Let’s call out errors when we see them, instead of parroting them.
1984.
The phrase “carbon cycle” predated Gorebal Warming by at least 50 years. It includes hydrocarbons, chlorophyll, carbonates, bicarbonates, carbonic acid and a number of other carbon based compounds and ions.
The phrase “carbon emissions” actually does include gaseous carbon compounds other than CO2.
I think the use of “carbon” in this context is a good example of Groupthink.
It’s laziness. It’s ignorance on the part of some people. It’s “going with the flow” for some people.
The subject is reducing CO2 by taxing it. I will stick to the subject.
It’s just what it has actually always been called.
From the API, as quoted in the above article:
“Rather than a patchwork of federal and state regulations and mandates that could ineffectively address the climate challenge, an economywide government carbon price policy is . . .”
So, API, before we go any further please define, as specifically and as scientifically as you can, what the schist is “the climate challenge”?
As brilliantly noted by Robert M. Pirsig, in his book Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance:
“If you can’t define something you have no formal rational way of knowing that it exists. Neither can you really tell anyone else what it is. There is, in fact, no formal difference between inability to define and stupidity.”
Who should I address the yellow and white flag to at the API? White for surrender and yellow for the cowards that are pissing their pants.
Is everyone having horseshit and koolaid for breakfast?