Reporter Confronts Al Gore On Sea Level Rise Claims, Gets Called A ‘Denier’

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Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore attends a screening for “An Inconvenient Sequel: Truth to Power” in Los Angeles, California, U.S., July 25, 2017. REUTERS/Mario Anzuoni –

Michael Bastasch

3:19 PM 08/17/2017

Former Vice President Al Gore labeled a British reporter a “denier” after he pressed the former vice president about scientific claims made in his recently-released global warming film.

“Are you a denier?” Gore asked The Spectator’s Ross Clark after a private screening of “An Inconvenient Sequel.” When Clark tried to finish his question, Gore said: “You are a denier.”

Clark questioned one part of Gore’s film that “cuts from Gore on his melting glacier to a flooded street in Miami Beach, with a voiceover from Gore making a strong connection between the two,” he wrote in an article.

“The implication is that sea-level rise is happening frighteningly quickly — and it is all down to carbon emissions, if not nature’s revenge for all those hanging chads which denied him victory in Florida and therefore the 2000 presidential election,” Clark wrote for The Spectator.

Clark was curious about the claim, so he asked Florida International University sea level expert Shimon Wdowinski about global warming’s impact on sea level rise. Wdowinski said glacial melt did impact sea level rise, but the recent surge in sea levels in Miami had more to do with “short-term variability caused by changes in ocean currents.”

Wdowinski also noted that subsidence is another major factor for flooding in Miami, much of which is built on reclaimed swamps and barrier islands. Clark wrote that “[s]atellite measurements reveal that some streets now lie 16 to 24 cm lower than they did 80 years ago.”

A recent study supports Wdowinski’s point. Sea levels south of Cape Hatteras rose about six times faster than the global average from 2011 to 2015, according to University of Florida researchers.

The study found “two large atmospheric patterns most likely accounted for the hot spot off the Southeast coast: the El Niño cycle and the North Atlantic Oscillation,” The New York Times reported.

Gore wasn’t interested in hearing inconvenient science. “As soon as I mention Professor Wdowinski’s name, he counters: ‘Never heard of him — is he a denier?’” Clark wrote, adding Gore soon accused him of being a “denier.”

Clark was also confronted by “a frosty PR woman” who told him “this is a film junket, to promote the film,” not an event to ask hard questions.

Clark isn’t the first to confront Gore on his scientific claims. Fox News host Chris Wallace asked Gore about failed predictions made in his 2006 film “An Inconvenient Truth.”

Wallace confronted Gore on his claim that “[u]nless we take drastic measures the world would reach a point of no return within 10 years,” there would be a “true planetary crisis” due to global warming.

“We are going to suffer some of these consequences, but we can limit and avoid the most catastrophic if we accelerate the pace of change that’s now beginning,” Gore told Wallace.

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JN
August 18, 2017 9:19 pm

This man is a complete denial of science. He has been having too much attention with his all nonsense or half trues, To shortly he will start to embarrass even his most alarmist disciples.

Old England
Reply to  JN
August 18, 2017 10:46 pm

He seems to be an expert on Snake Oil and trousering cash.

old44
Reply to  Old England
August 19, 2017 1:23 am

Is that anything like an oily cashed up trouser snake?

Bitter&Twisted
Reply to  Old England
August 19, 2017 4:26 am

Spot on!
Hence his reflex use of the “denier” smear to shut down debate.

Scott
Reply to  Old England
August 19, 2017 4:59 am

Algore!
Monday will be his penultimate day.
The “Reverend” Algore of the high church of Glow-bull Warming
will pronounce!
“When the Eclipse totalizes you will RISE (sea level) and SHINE (hottest year eva!)….
Good Grief, he’s the Jimmy Swaggart of the Church of Climatism……

TA
Reply to  Old England
August 19, 2017 6:33 am

“Good Grief, he’s the Jimmy Swaggart of the Church of Climatism”
“I have sinned!”, says Swaggart.
Do you think we will ever hear Gore repent?

Mike
Reply to  Old England
August 21, 2017 2:27 pm

Just a molester of maids that has already scammed hundreds of millions of dollars off CAGW lies and wants more. One of the biggest hypocrites too, essentially a “carbon copy” of Kim Jong Un…

Reply to  JN
August 18, 2017 10:59 pm

the reporter should have corrected him “The word you’re looking for Mr Gore is ‘heretic’, not denier..”

Ox AO
Reply to  Karl
August 21, 2017 2:26 pm

Yeap. A heretic is a proponent of such claims or beliefs. That doesn’t mean it MUST be of a religious belief.

Len
Reply to  JN
August 19, 2017 5:20 am

‘Never argue with stupid people, they will bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.’ Mark Twain

juandos
Reply to  JN
August 19, 2017 12:39 pm

Doesn’t this fool have a masseuse he should be molesting?

Sam R.
Reply to  juandos
August 19, 2017 9:01 pm

Sounds like Al picked up a lot of life lessons from Bill as his VP.

Santa Baby
Reply to  JN
August 19, 2017 12:48 pm

Neomarxism and postmodernism have their own policy made science. To be a denier of that is being a reality based realist?

rogerthesurf
August 18, 2017 9:22 pm

Al Gore,
What a crock!
Hope the AGW market falls flat before he can get out of his renewable investments.
Cheers
Roger
https://thedemiseofchristchurch.com/2016/05/06/six-reasons-why-you-should-worry-about-climate-change/

Reply to  rogerthesurf
August 19, 2017 2:17 pm

+10

Jack
August 18, 2017 9:32 pm

Labelling anyone a “denier” is an easy way to avoid answering puzzling questions.

ralfellis
Reply to  Jack
August 19, 2017 12:04 pm

They were not ‘puzzling’ questions at all, and Gore knows all the answers (and the truth) to them. But Gore is not peddling the truth. He is the the captain of a profitable bandwagon selling snake-oil science, and he is not going to allow pesky little things like the truth to get in his way.
R

ThomasJK
Reply to  Jack
August 20, 2017 6:21 am

Sheesh. Why not be a proudly honest global warming Heretic if you are honestly a denier of all the global warming bullwash that is being pedaled and is being called science, then claim the title ‘denier’ and wear it proudly. There’s something about denying that you are a denier that strikes me as being more than just a bit of a silly waste of time and effort.
Just a piece of unsolicited advice provided by someone who is proudly a hillbilly redneck country boy of advanced age.

Dave_G
Reply to  Jack
August 20, 2017 10:12 am

Some one needs to call Gore out publicly and declare him to be a liar – then demand that he sues for defamation if he feels the label is wrongly applied.

Dr. S. Jeevananda Reddy
August 18, 2017 9:38 pm

In business, profit driven path plays the real story. This is exactly what Al Gore is doing. You can ask him, what was his assets before and after turning in to a global warmist? Once you get money you can hire PR groups. This is what Al Gore is doing around the world.
Dr. S. Jeevananda Reddy

Louis
August 18, 2017 9:45 pm

“We are going to suffer some of these consequences, but we can limit and avoid the most catastrophic if we accelerate the pace of change that’s now beginning,” Gore told Wallace.
So when is Gore going to start accelerating the pace of change in his carbon footprint? Buying carbon offsets so you can continue to heat the air around you outdoor pool doesn’t count. Do Al Gore supporters believe it is right for rich people like him to buy their way out of all responsibility for their carbon emissions?

sagalout
Reply to  Louis
August 19, 2017 2:21 am

You don’t understand carbon credits, do you? They are the modern day, climate religion version of medieval indulgences: “”a way to reduce the amount of punishment one has to undergo for sins” as Wikipedia puts it. You should know by now that rich people don’t have to follow the same rules as poor people.

Sheri
Reply to  sagalout
August 19, 2017 5:33 am

They never did. It’s just that now we somehow expect things to be “fair”. The rich have always ran ripshod over everyone else, gotten off for offenses others are jailed for, etc. I can’t think of any time in history when that was not true. Why anyone is surprised by this amazes me. That anyone thinks it can ever change also amazes me. Perhaps the most important question in all of this is why anyone listens to pronouncements from rich people. We know they do whatever they want and don’t mean a thing they say.

VB_Bitter
August 18, 2017 9:57 pm

He can’t argue his case or the question so he resorts to ad hominem attacks. Typical politician, but no scientist. Once someone calls someone a ‘denier’, they have lost the argument in my book.

afonzarelli
Reply to  VB_Bitter
August 18, 2017 11:41 pm

Yes, but in the book of reality they win. Branding someone a ‘d*nier’ instead of answering a threatening question is alinsky 101. So it backfires on the reporter. Don’t think that this isn’t pre-orchestrated behavior. Al Gore wins here though in the long haul liberalism loses. (and don’t think that gore gives a hoot about anybody but himself)…

tom s
Reply to  afonzarelli
August 19, 2017 8:19 am

I would have shot right back and said, ‘Um no sir, you are the denier…answer my question!’

Reply to  VB_Bitter
August 19, 2017 1:18 am

Exactly because Gore’s case is non-existent.
I was recently enlightened about the nature of sea level change over the last 70+ years. The startling truth is:

Over decades in most places around the world the sea level has remained the same, or declined slightly. This is consistent with the data showing (minimal) sea level rise because this is offset by a few isolated spots which show a steep rise, namely Indonesia. See: http://buythetruth.wordpress.com/2008/11/15/sea-level-scam/

We’ve heard people from all over the world tell how the beach(es) they used to visit decades ago .. are just the same now as far as sea level! Well, there’s an explanation for these “anecdotes.” It is true what they’re saying.
The latest anecdote was told to Gore himself a few weeks ago:

On CNN: Mayor Eskridge, of Tangier Island, Va asked Gore: “I’m a commercial crabber, and I’ve been working the Chesapeake Bay for 50-plus years. And I have a crab house business out on the water. And the water level is THE SAME as it was when the place was built in 1970. I’m not a scientist but I’m a keen observer, and if sea level rise is occurring, why am I not seeing signs of it?” Gore seemed blindsided by the question [now Gore just immediately calls the questioners “a denier!”].. See video here: http://www.mrctv.org/blog/al-gore-put-his-place-mayor-eroding-va-island

fredar
Reply to  VB_Bitter
August 19, 2017 3:09 am

The saddest part is not the fact that Gore is behaving immature and unscientific, but that he is getting away with such behaviour. In a more sane and rational world that kind of behaviour would be totally unacceptable and he would be immediately condemned by world leaders, journalists, and public alike. Even if what he says is true, it would still be wrong to act like that. In a free and civilized world people should be allowed to debate and discuss, even or especially the controversial topics. Only that way strong ideas rise to the top and weak ideas die. Demanding blind obedience and shutting down debate only serves authoritarians like Gore.

Sheri
Reply to  fredar
August 19, 2017 5:35 am

Where would we find that more sane and rational world?

Catcracking
Reply to  fredar
August 19, 2017 9:12 am

Sheri,
Only if a Conservative or Republican says something stupid will there be criticism from the MSM.
It is sad that the MSM have become so complicit with the progressive agenda that they never criticize the left regardless of how irrational the proposal; for example Obama did the worst things in history like giving Iran the green light for Nuclear development as well as some cash in the middle of the night to further the terrorist agenda.
The MSM have become so much in the tank for Democrats, they may be hurting their cause.

August 18, 2017 9:59 pm

May God bless England and spit Al Gore into the pit.

spren
Reply to  John
August 18, 2017 10:08 pm

And with Prince Charles in mind, long live the Queen.

Reply to  spren
August 18, 2017 11:00 pm

oh you are SO right there.. it bears repeating : God Save the Queen!

jgmccabe
Reply to  John
August 19, 2017 12:52 am

But then there are idiots like Amol Raj who, in the brief interview broadcast on BBC Radio 2 earlier this week, was just fawning all over Gore.

Adam Gallon
Reply to  jgmccabe
August 19, 2017 1:05 am

Luckily, I missed the interview. But he’d been salivating over it all the program!

Reply to  jgmccabe
August 19, 2017 1:23 am

jgmccabe
It was dreadful, but the similarly pre recorded ‘interview’ by Frank Skinner on Absolute radio was even worse. The fawning, snivelling little sycophant Skinner was truly vomit inducing.

August 18, 2017 10:26 pm

Before too long Gore will be making a protective cross by crossing his index fingers and holding them out in front of himself as apparent d*niers begin to multiply. I see a pathetic old age for Al and I feel a little sorry. There he is, buying millions of tickets for his own movie and handing them out in street corners bundled up against the whipping cold and snow.
Paramount proposed a redo of the ending to a SciFi flick where global warming was caused by alien laser ships to get all the Crony capitalists to smog up the statosphere as a coolant. Then the invaders turned off the lasers, so earth would freeze up to facilitate the invasion. Heroes from the CliSci unit would foil the plan by… but Al nixed this idea.

Reply to  Gary Pearse
August 18, 2017 11:11 pm

That’s so true! hadn’t even thought of it..
That’s what the Paris-ites and ManBearPig folks need – funny hats ! Funny hats and weird hand gestures, and clearly they’re too busy saving the world to have time to come up with them so mebbe we need to help them along and design them up some stuff. Robes too.. well, Robes for the Gore and the Charles and the Mann, smocks for the acolytes.
Thinking about this I’ve already observed some patterns emerging in acolytes – many of the male acolytes have neckbeards and manbuns and the female of the species seem to have blue hair or heavily matted smelly dreadlocks. but really they need do need smocks and given they’re often not capable of original thought, we may be just the people to develop a series of designs for them.
Let’s begin with the funny hand gestures – any suggestions? This could be fun =D

Snarling Dolphin
August 18, 2017 10:27 pm

Turtle, fence post, Al Gore, had to have help, just sayin’…

Bill Snape
August 18, 2017 10:36 pm

The queen has long understood her insane sons limited capacities hence the reluctance to hand over the reigns. If Charles ever becomes King it will be the end of the Monarchy. She needs to find a way to hand it to one of her grandsons. It wouldn’t surprise me if she does this if she goes into decline.
Around the world the sucker nations are about to feel the consequences of loony power bills and massive unemployment as companies give up the unequal struggle to compete in western decay and move their operations where they are welcome. And what will happen to the likes of gore then? The photos of Mussolini come to mind, I bloody hope so!

Old England
Reply to  Bill Snape
August 19, 2017 12:16 am

If I had any say in it – and I don’t – I’d ensure that Princess Anne was made Queen. 10 times better than her brother.
I dread Charles becoming King – he will be an absolute disaster and, as you speculate, there is a strong chance that he will destroy the monarchy. He will certainly devalue its currency.

Reply to  Old England
August 19, 2017 1:36 am

Personally, although I admire our current Queen, the removal of all public funding from these parasites and the return to the state of all their lands can’t come soon enough. Socialists of the highest order suckling from the teat of the taxpayer.
Although I do admire Princess Anne, she still has to go with the rest of them.

Patrick Powers
Reply to  Old England
August 19, 2017 1:45 am

Oh dear the levels of misunderstanding on this topic are startling. Few know and even fewer recall the constitutional differences between the roles of Prince of Wales and of King. It is as if there are actually people out there who think that the PoW will continue doing what does when King. The PoW is a member of Parliament and has a right and a duty like all such to be involved in the governance of the nation. The Monarch has no such involvement and ever since the early Georges has remained publicly impartial. Charles will do the same and incidentally as the most experienced PoW ever he will do an excellent job as well.

climatereason
Editor
Reply to  Old England
August 19, 2017 2:29 am

hotscot
I dare say the monarchy brings in millions of times more revenue from tourism etc than you do. Hey! Lets abolish hot Scot! 🙂

KO
Reply to  Old England
August 19, 2017 6:12 am

Oh dear…Apropos HotScot’s comment that the Royals are parasites – perhaps best go and read up on the settlement reached between Parliament and the Monarch in 1760 and the subsequent acts of Parliament dealing with the Crown Estate…
By that original settlement, the Monarch traded Royal lands and perquisites (broadly acquired by the Royal Family over 700 years of war, marriage alliances, exercise of prerogative et etc) to Parliament in exchange for a stipend, the Civil List.
There were other rather more profound constitutional changes which went with this (all of which underpin the very nature of the constitutional monarchy as it exists today), and the settlement is formally reaffirmed on the ascension of each monarch to the throne. But it boils down to a simple concept – the Monarch gives up his /her rights, all lawfully obtained, in exchange for a stipend generated by the Crown Estate.
The Monarchy and Civil List costs UK about 60p per citizen per year. What this doesn’t take into account is almost all that goes to finance HM’s role as Head of State. It also ignores that the Monarchy’s net contribution to Britain (according to the Brand Finance Report of 2015) is 1.155 Bn Sterling a year (that is a return on investment per head of population of 17.77 Sterling).
Even a Scotsman shouldnt complain about that. But feel free to grind, gurn and hate away along with all the other deplorables who’d rather see the ghastly phenomenon of a Pres and Mrs Blair, or Pres and Mr Thatcher…

rapscallion
Reply to  Old England
August 21, 2017 5:06 am

The problem is that constitutionally her hands are tied. Charles WILL be King when she dies and there is nothing bar him pre-deceasing her that can stop it. Act of Settlement 1701 allied with the Bill of Rights 1689 defines the pre-requisites for succession. No catholic can attain the throne for example. It needs assent by parliament and all commonwealth realms. Legislation amending the act came into effect across the Commonwealth realms on 26 March 2015, and removed the disqualification arising from marriage to a Roman Catholic
Powers – where did you get the idea that the POW is a member of parliament? I’m sorry, but that is a load of bollocks. He is not an MP, nor can he ever be. Also he may write to various cabinet members, he has absolutely no power at all. The convention is that the Royal Family never comment on ANY political matter. As king, he has just three things according to Bagehot- “the rights to be consulted, to encourage and to warn”. The Monarch has very few powers in reality.
Lastly, barring Charles’ death before the Queen. William cannot become King. It is not possible to jump over one who has a rightful claim to the throne according to the Act above.
Billk – Charlies has indicated that he will probably be George VII. Also, as there was no Charles III in the British monarchy, I fail to see how he could be Charles IV.

old44
Reply to  Bill Snape
August 19, 2017 1:34 am

Nicolae Ceaușescu

billk
Reply to  Bill Snape
August 19, 2017 10:13 am

Would Charles IV (don’t forget Bonney Prince Charlie!) reign over a minarchy or a moronarchy?

Bryan A
Reply to  billk
August 21, 2017 12:12 pm

Probably a Maniaclarchy

August 18, 2017 10:48 pm

Do you think Al Gore doesn’t know how to read a graph?
Or maybe he never looks at them?
Or maybe he just doesn’t doesn’t care what’s true, and lies out of habit?
Mid North Pacific / Hawaii:
http://sealevel.info/MSL_graph.php?stnid=honolulu&thick&boxcar=1
http://www.sealevel.info/1612340_Honolulu_vs_CO2_annot1.png
South Pacific / Australia:
http://www.sealevel.info/MSL_graph.php?id=Sydney&boxcar=1&boxwidth=3&c_date=1930/1-2019/12
http://www.sealevel.info/680-140_Sydney_1930-2016_vs_CO2.png
Indian Ocean / India:
http://www.sealevel.info/MSL_graph.php?id=Cochin
http://www.sealevel.info/500-081_Cochin_India.png
Arabian Sea / India:
http://www.sealevel.info/MSL_graph.php?id=Mumbai
http://www.sealevel.info/500-041_Mumbai_2016-09.png
Atlantic / UK:
http://sealevel.info/MSL_graph.php?stnid=newlyn&thick&boxcar=1
http://www.sealevel.info/170-161_Newlyn_vs_CO2_2016.png
Atlantic / US East Coast:
http://www.sealevel.info/MSL_graph.php?id=Newport,+RI&boxcar=1&boxwidth=3
http://www.sealevel.info/8452660_Newport_RI_vs_CO2_2016.png
Baltic Sea / Germany:
http://www.sealevel.info/MSL_graph.php?id=Wismar&c_date=1866/1-2019/12&boxcar=1&boxwidth=3
http://www.sealevel.info/120-022_Wismar_2017-01_150yrs.png
North Sea / Netherlands:
http://www.sealevel.info/MSL_graph.php?id=Harlingen&boxcar=1&boxwidth=3
http://www.sealevel.info/150-021_Harlingen_Netherlands.png
Mediterranean / Egypt:
http://www.sealevel.info/MSL_graph.php?id=Alexandria&boxcar=1&boxwidth=3
http://sealevel.info/330-071_Alexandria_Egypt.png
Black Sea / Georgia:
http://www.sealevel.info/MSL_graph.php?id=Poti
http://www.sealevel.info/305-021_Poti_Georgia_1874-2015.png
Adriatic Sea / Italy:
http://www.sealevel.info/MSL_graph.php?id=Trieste&boxcar=1&boxwidth=3
http://www.sealevel.info/270-061_Trieste_Italy_vs_CO2.png

Greg
Reply to  daveburton
August 19, 2017 1:07 am

Dave, your graphs are meaningless unless you are just trying to do the same thing as Gore. CO2 in ppm is not supposed to be proportional to sea level. With different scaling you could make them look similar.
First you need to use log(CO2) . Then why do you give one vertical grid box to SL and four to CO2 ? This us just BS pseudo-science like we attack Gore for doing.
I’m sure I’ve said this before but you don’t care and continue to misrepresent that data just like Gore. Disappointing.

Reply to  Greg
August 19, 2017 1:18 am

+1

Reply to  Greg
August 19, 2017 3:39 am

No, Greg, the graphs are not meaningless. Here’s the meaning you can glean from them:
1. CO2 level has increased about 30% in the last 3/4 century, and 37% since 1900. And,
2. The sea-level rise has been almost perfectly linear for nearly a century. And,
3. CO2 level has no noticeable effect on sea level.
Therefore:
4. Since the rate of sea-level rise has not increased significantly in response to the last 3/4 century of CO2 emissions, there is no reason to expect that it will do so in response to the next 3/4 century of CO2 emissions. The best prediction for sea level in the future is simply a linear projection of the history of sea-level at the same location in the past.
The fact that, as you noted, CO2 has a logarithmically diminishing impact on temperature, and hence on any secondary factor thought to be influenced by temperature, like sea-level, simply reinforces the 4th point.
 
I’m sorry you don’t like the graph scalings. They were chosen as follows:
* The number of horizontal grid lines was chosen to be nine, to match NOAA’s sea-level graphs.
* The number of horizontal grind lines for CO2 was chosen to be the same as the number for sea-level, so the two graphs could share the same grid lines.
* The green CO2 scaling was chosen to fit nicely on a graph with nine 20 ppmv increments, leaving room for growth to 440 ppmv (probably about 15 years from now).
* The black sea-level scale (in meters) was chosen to match NOAA’s graphs. (In fact, if you look closely, you’ll notice that for one location I accidentally used NOAA’s graph instead of mine.)
The scaling NOAA chose allows a consistent vertical scale for most locations. I.e., it is broad enough to “work” for most sites.
The way my code draws the vertical axis, there are always nine labeled points. By default, they are 0.15 meters apart, which is what NOAA generally uses. But when that would result in any of the traces not fitting on the graph, the vertical axis increments are increased: to 0.20, 0.25, 0.30, etc., per increment, as necessary, to make everything fit.
All except two of the graphs which I showed this time used 0.15 meters/increment. One of the two exceptions is Harlingen, where 0.20 meters/increment was needed to accommodate the wide month-to-moth variations; if you enable boxcar smoothing it reverts to 0.15 meters/increment. The other is Poti, on the Black Sea, which experiences atypically large sea-level rise (I don’t know why).
0.15 meters per increment was NOAA’s choice for most of their MSL graphs, but I think it was a reasonable one, which is why I used it, too.
It’s a compromise, of course. If you make the default increment much larger than that, so that fewer graphs would require non-standard scaling, to get better consistency between the graphs for the different sites, then for the most typical graphs everything looks almost like a horizontal line. Not good.
OTOH, if you make the increment as small as you possibly can for each graph, so that the traces are scaled to “use” maximum possible vertical range (like I did for CO2), then when you compare the graphs of different sites most of them would look pretty much the same. The graph thumbnail sheets on my site would become quite misleading, because the graphs for the sites with the highest rates of SLR would look just like the graphs for the sites with lowest positive rates of SLR. Only the sites where MSL is falling would look distinctly different — also not good.

R. Shearer
Reply to  Greg
August 19, 2017 6:58 am

Data is data, plot it anyway one may like, it is what it is. The accompanying explanation, if there is one, is most important. Further, an exponential trend cannot be turned to a linear trend via scaling.

Tejas
Reply to  Greg
August 19, 2017 7:21 am

“let me add another hom.
Al Khomemi.”
If you are the same Greg as down below, you look like a troll.

Jeff Cagle
Reply to  Greg
August 19, 2017 7:50 am

I agree with Greg that log(CO2) v time is the appropriate quantity to plot here.
And even better than a time series would be a direct plot of sea level v log(CO2).

oppti
Reply to  daveburton
August 19, 2017 1:25 am

Dave Burton-You can prove more with the 50 Year trend:
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/global_50yr.htm?stnid=680-140

Greg
Reply to  oppti
August 19, 2017 1:38 am

That’s interesting, very clear circa 50y cyclic variation on top of about 0.7 mm/y steady background rise. Thanks.

Reply to  oppti
August 19, 2017 3:45 am

Yes, it looks like Sydney’s sea-level is influenced slightly by the PDO:comment image

Reply to  daveburton
August 19, 2017 2:58 am

The average of all those graphs is ~5.85 inches per century…with no acceleration noticeable…(148.59 mm per century).

Reply to  daveburton
August 19, 2017 3:48 am

Greg
You’ve buried yourself in minutiae and only succeeded in being obtuse.
Vertical stretching of the SL data and giving it “more grid boxes” would only magnify noise. It would not change the straight line fit, which is the point of the comparison.
The point is well made by these graphs – not only the linearity of the SL increase but it’s extent back before 1900, way before CO2 could plausibly be having any effect, and the non response to the substantial CO2 upward inflection, whether linear or log, make the point very sufficiently that there is no causal link between CO2 and SL.
What you have done is inflate arcane questions in methodology and personal taste in making graphs, and in so doing failed to understand – either accidentally or deliberately – an obvious conclusion from these data. Are you trying to position yourself as a Mosh disciple – with a lukewarm position and beating up on amateur skeptics to burnish your credentials. These games detract from the truth, and are not helpful.

John
August 18, 2017 11:12 pm

Big hitters in the AGW crowd should distance themselves from Gore, or they risk being linked.

Reply to  John
August 18, 2017 11:24 pm

He’s the next President of the United States of America.
Again.

David Cage
August 18, 2017 11:12 pm

I see the attempt to remove Trump as the end of the battle against climate change with all the gains ending and the establishment power base for climate change reasserted totally regardless of any facts in the case.

John
Reply to  David Cage
August 19, 2017 12:26 am

Quite. I’m not his biggest fan, but the amount of mud being thrown is shocking.

hunter
Reply to  John
August 19, 2017 2:34 am

Considering the cynical ignorance which hecdisplsys on his relentless focus on enriching himself off of climate fear, I would disagree.
Al is getting a small amount of what is deserved.

Reply to  John
August 19, 2017 5:40 pm

“Considering the cynical ignorance which hecdisplsys on his relentless focus on enriching himself off of climate fear, I would disagree.
Al is getting a small amount of what is deserved.”
Pretty sure John was referring to Trump.

Barbara
Reply to  David Cage
August 19, 2017 3:19 pm

Check out the cabal associated with Gore. Or the network of those associated with Gore.
Pres. Trump has become a target worldwide.

peterg
August 18, 2017 11:54 pm

Ad hominem.

Roger Knights
Reply to  peterg
August 19, 2017 12:51 am

Al hominem!

Greg
Reply to  Roger Knights
August 19, 2017 1:09 am

let me add another hom.
Al Khomemi.

Greg
Reply to  Roger Knights
August 19, 2017 1:10 am

a great religious leader of our times.

michael hart
Reply to  Roger Knights
August 19, 2017 3:59 am

Ad Blocker
Is more popular.

Bryan A
Reply to  Roger Knights
August 21, 2017 12:22 pm

Khomeni
“A great religious leader of our time”
For a demonstrably intollerant religion (Just ask Isis)

lb
Reply to  peterg
August 19, 2017 12:46 pm

Somehow Al Gore’s picture reminds me of Al Gorbatschov.

August 18, 2017 11:57 pm

There were 35 errors in Al Gore’s first science fiction movie. The High Court in London found it to be political indoctrination when shown in schools.

Roger Knights
August 19, 2017 12:52 am

“… gets called a denier.”
So what if he’s got a fine sieve? That’s a feature, not a bug.

Alec aka Daffy Duck
August 19, 2017 1:16 am

My question is why the updates on sea level have stopped???
Last update on sea level from CU was 12/11/2016
http://sealevel.colorado.edu
From NASA it was April 2017
https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/
Look the nasa graph and you’ll see a nice little plateau in sea level recently

Greg
Reply to  Alec aka Daffy Duck
August 19, 2017 1:41 am

There is obviously an error in the data that they have not managed to “correct” yet, hence the delays.

oppti
Reply to  Alec aka Daffy Duck
August 19, 2017 1:49 am

NASA has to learn how to do science.
Do not change method in the middle of a serial measurement!
At least show both during the same period.
The sea level is still measured at the gauges-show it!

Greg
Reply to  oppti
August 19, 2017 2:36 am

Yes , strange the way one graph stops where the other begins. They show the average slope for sat. data is BIG numbers but do not even show the long term rate AT ALL : 200mm/130y = 1.54 mm/y maybe that is why.
They have a big fat button to down load the sat. data but no link at all for the tide guage data.

Catcracking
Reply to  Alec aka Daffy Duck
August 19, 2017 9:45 am

Good question re no updates
Also it would be nice if they let you know what is included in their plots, like SLR isostatic adjustments and including correction for local settlement at many tide gauges.
The current plateau if real may be the reason for lack of updates. Clearly if there was an acceleration it would be all over the MSM, regardless of how minute.

hunter
August 19, 2017 2:31 am

“You’re a denier” is a content free answer.
It is a judgement against the person asking the question and not an answer to the question.
It is interesting that Gore can only judge the people.
It is as if he were his father or one of the other racist Senators opposed to vibil rights dismissing questions about his stand on equal rights with, “are you a ni@er lover?”

Robert from oz
August 19, 2017 2:50 am

OT but some reporters are staying on song with rubbish like this .
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-19/researchers-shocked-by-coral-bleaching-in-pacific/8822126
I have sent an email to the minister responsible in Somoa asking if it was true that they had virtually no reefs left around Somoa because of the above report , I’m sure their tourism won’t suffer .

I Came I Saw I Left
August 19, 2017 3:11 am

Once you allow the opponent to frame the argument, you lose.
“Are you a denier?”
“Yes, I deny con artists the opportunity to make fraudulent claims. Are you a con artist?”
Then when he defends himself say, “You’re a con artist”
See how it works?

michael hart
August 19, 2017 4:05 am

Finding a reporter who is willing to ask such questions is a story in itself. The Spectator seems to consistently do better than the other MSM in the UK.

Jaakko Kateenkorva
August 19, 2017 4:39 am

The pravda guy, Al, is telling off journalists?

August 19, 2017 4:57 am

The truly scary thing is that Algore was within 539 votes or so of becoming President of the US in 2000. His scare stories about the Earth having a fever are nothing compared to an alternate history scenario of him as President.

Reply to  Tom Halla
August 19, 2017 6:07 am

Gore is so boring.
I don’t know how he became a Presidnetial candidate nor a climate change messiah nor brings in such big speaking fees nor why any TV channel would want to interview him. He is a ratings killer.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Bill Illis
August 19, 2017 6:51 am

Simple. As vice-president for Clinton for 8 years, he was a virtual shoo-in. Becoming a climate change messiah may very well have been because he was denied lost the presidential election. While it may be interesting to speculate on how things would have turned out for the US, it is pretty clear we would not have had AIT, or return of AIT.

Bryan A
Reply to  Bill Illis
August 21, 2017 12:29 pm

Only a few hanging Chads know the truth

Hans-Georg
Reply to  Tom Halla
August 19, 2017 6:10 am

Thank God, some scenarios do not occur. Imagine an Al Gore, who won the presidential election in 2000. Left-wing billionaires such as Soros had long since taken over the world leadership, the UN would be dissolved in favor of a world government with Al Gore as a lifelong president. Utopia or sarcasm? I personally experienced Al Gore years ago during his lecture at EnBW (Energy Baden – Württemberg) Climate – Scare Tour. I still scared today. Not only because of the content of the lecture, which at the time was business as unsual, but also because of its behavior and its destructive charisma.
Actually this was the time when I had my own thoughts about the climate, its change and the consequences. Al Gore gave the final impetus to the fact that I became the opponent of established teaching.

dustybloke
August 19, 2017 5:26 am

Just a little tip, Al.
“Denier” has sadly gone the same way as “Racist” and we can no longer use it to close down arguments.
What is effective nowadays, and you should really learn this off by heart, is “fascist”.
So, next time, scream “Fascist” at silly old Ross and he’ll have to shut up, go away and cry.
We can’t let science get in the way of money – oops! sorry! – saving mankind!

tom0mason
August 19, 2017 5:49 am

“Are you a denier?” Gore asked The Spectator’s Ross Clark after a private screening of “An Inconvenient Sequel.”

“No more than YOU are an profiteering alarmist Mr. Gore” should have been Ross Clark reply.

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