Oh noes! Last remnant of ancient North American ice sheet on track to vanish

From the UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO AT BOULDER and the “300 years out canary in the coal mine meme” department, comes this press release with absolute certainty. I tend to ignore any science that uses the favorite phrase of activists “The Barnes Ice Cap is like a canary in a coal mine”.

Study involving CU Boulder shows Barnes Ice Cap on Baffin Island will melt in about 300 years because of warming climate

CU Boulder Professor Gifford Miller, shown here, is part of a team that has found the Barnes Ice Cap on Baffin Island, the last remnant of the Laurentide Ice Sheet, will vanish in several hundred years because of rising temperatures caused by human activity. CREDIT Gifford Miller, University of Colorado

Last remnant of North American ice sheet on track to vanish

The last piece of the ice sheet that once blanketed much of North America is doomed to disappear in the next several centuries, says a new study by researchers at Simon Fraser University in British Columbia and the University of Colorado Boulder.

The Barnes Ice Cap, a Delaware-sized feature on Baffin Island in the Canadian Arctic, is melting at a rapid pace, driven by increased greenhouse gases in the atmosphere that have elevated Arctic temperatures. The ice cap, while still 500 meters thick, is slated to melt in about 300 years under business-as-usual greenhouse gas emissions.

The results provide compelling evidence that the current level of warming is almost unheard of in the past 2.5 million years, according to the authors. Only three times at most in that time period has the Barnes Ice Cap been so small, a study of isotopes created by cosmic rays that were trapped in rocks around the Barnes Ice Cap indicated.

“This is the disappearance of a feature from the last glacial age, which would have probably survived without anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions,” said Adrien Gilbert, a glaciologist at Simon Fraser University in British Columbia in Canada and lead author of the new study published online today in Geophysical Research Letters, a journal of the American Geophysical Union.

While the melting of the Barnes Ice Cap will likely have negligible effects on sea level rise, its end could herald the eventual dissolution of the larger ice sheets like Greenland and Antarctica, said CU-Boulder Professor Gifford Miller, a study co-author.

“I think the disappearance of the Barnes Ice Cap would be just a scientific curiosity if it were not so unusual,” said Miller, the associate director of CU Boulder’s Institute of Arctic and Alpine Research who has conducted research on Baffin Island annually for the past five decades. “One implication derived from our results is that significant parts of the southern Greenland Ice Sheet also may be at risk of melting as the Arctic continues to warm.”

Elevated sea rise created by a melting Greenland would automatically cause the Antarctic Ice Sheet, whose dimensions are controlled by sea level, to also shrink in size, Miller said.

The Barnes Ice Cap is part of the Laurentide Ice Sheet that has covered millions of square miles of North America episodically since the start of Quaternary Period roughly 2.5 million years ago. The ice sheet grew and shrank over time as Earth went through various climate cycles, and the ice was a mile thick at present-day Chicago about 20,000 years ago. It started receding substantially around 14,000 years ago when Earth slipped out of its last ice age.

The ice cap stabilized about 2,000 years ago until the effects of the recent warming caught up with it. Miller was conducting research on Baffin Island in 2009 when he realized the ice cap had shrunk noticeably as compared to images from a few decades earlier. He recruited Gilbert and Gwenn Flowers from Simon Fraser to develop a model of how the ice cap might behave in the future.

In the new study, the researchers used their model to estimate when the ice cap would disappear under different greenhouse gas emissions scenarios. They project that under all future emission scenarios the ice cap will be gone within 200 to 500 years. For a moderate emissions scenario that assumes Earth’s greenhouse gas emissions will peak around the year 2040, they project the ice cap to be gone in 300 years.

“The geological data is pretty clear that the Barnes Ice Cap almost never disappears in the interglacial times,” Miller said. “The fact that it’s disappearing now says we’re really outside of what we’ve experienced in 2.5 million-year interval. We are entering a new climate state.”

The Barnes Ice Cap is like a canary in a coal mine, said Miller, who also is a professor in CU Boulder’s Department of Geological Sciences. Even if humans stopped emitting greenhouse gases today, the ice cap would still disappear in the next few centuries.

In 2010, the project received a boost from Waleed Abdalati, current director of the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences (a joint venture of CUBoulder and NOAA), who was NASA’s chief scientist at the time. Abdalati supported the flight of a NASA plane monitoring ice loss in the Arctic to revisit the Barnes Ice Cap.

In addition to measuring changes in the ice cap’s height, researchers used ice-penetrating radar aboard the aircraft to reveal its hidden, sub-glacial topography. The measurements were key for the computer model subsequently developed by Gilbert and Flowers to predict the evolution of the Barnes Ice Cap.

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Editor
March 22, 2017 1:03 pm

The Barnes Ice Cap, a Delaware-sized feature on Baffin Island in the Canadian Arctic, is melting at a rapid pace, driven by increased greenhouse gases in the atmosphere that have elevated Arctic temperatures. The ice cap, while still 500 meters thick, is slated to melt in about 300 years under business-as-usual greenhouse gas emissions.

I wonder if they used RCP 8.5 for their “business-as-usual greenhouse gas emissions” scenario.

Reply to  David Middleton
March 22, 2017 1:06 pm

Here’s a link to the GRL paper… http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2016GL072394/abstract

It’s not behind a paywall.

GeologyJim
Reply to  David Middleton
March 23, 2017 12:15 pm

How does this cr*p get published?

The abstract says “Measured concentrations of cosmogenic radionuclides 10Be, 26Al, and 14C at sites exposed near the ice-cap margin suggest the pending disappearance of Barnes Ice Cap is very unusual in the last million years”, yet the text says “Marine oxygen isotope stage (MIS) 5e (~125 ka) was exceptionally warm because of favorable tilt and precession orbital configurations; all of the Canadian Arctic Archipelago is thought to have been ice-free then [Koerner, 1989]”.

So evidence indicates all of northern Canada was ice-free 125,000 years ago, yet modeled disappearance of the Barnes Icecap is “very unusual”. Bogus

Exposure-age estimates based on Be, Al, and C isotopes are full of assumptions and statistical “phrenology”, and are in no way “absolute ages”.

In fact, the paper states “Although an infinite number of combinations of exposure, burial, and erosion can explain the measured CRN inventories in many of our samples, the known timing of the cyclical glaciation-interglaciation (burial-exposure) histories of these samples significantly limits the range of geologically reasonable scenarios”.

So, they have a couple of data points from a few samples, throw them into a whirly-gig of models of models, and conclude “all is doomed, sooner or later”. Wow, I’m shocked

I was a Geology grad student at Univ Colorado at the same time as Giff Miller in the early 70s. He’s been studying Baffin Island for over 40 years, and this is the best his grad students can do?

Time to retire.

BallBounces
March 22, 2017 1:04 pm

This is excellent news. I bought Barnes Ice Cap futures and have secured the rights to build a Tim Hortons on the Cap, once it melts. My investment is paying off!!!

Robert of Ottawa
Reply to  BallBounces
March 22, 2017 2:16 pm

Am I going to far in my investment in Baffin Tropical Resorts inc?

Ron
Reply to  Robert of Ottawa
March 23, 2017 7:22 am

That will certainly stop the glacial melt!

JustAnOldGuy
Reply to  BallBounces
March 23, 2017 3:54 am

It’s great news for you and a disaster for me. I had plans to open the world’s first ski resort for nudists there. When the news broke my backers left like rats from a sinking ship.

Karl Compton
Reply to  JustAnOldGuy
March 23, 2017 1:21 pm

Easy fix — water ski resort! The crutch-makers might sue you for cutting into their business, though.

John M. Ware
Reply to  BallBounces
March 23, 2017 5:21 pm

How soon can I move up there and plant banana trees? Wouldn’t “Baffin Bananas” be a catchy product name? Or perhaps hops, so someone could market “Baffin Beer” or “Baffin Brew.” Just a thought . . .

March 22, 2017 1:06 pm

“The ice cap stabilized about 2,000 years ago”

All this foolishness is predicated on this straw man argument which presumes that the climate is absolutely stable?

Barryjo
Reply to  co2isnotevil
March 23, 2017 8:46 am

Of course, there were several “probably’s” , “may’s’ and the definite “almost never” in the article.

John B
Reply to  Barryjo
March 23, 2017 10:09 am

These are the same scientists who can’t tell us why the last Ice Age ended. An area 1,000 times bigger than the Baffin ice shelf disappeared over several hundred years without manmade CO2. Why-who cares?

“We can’t explain the recent past, but we can accurately predict the future.” In any other business these guys would be in jail or bankrupt – probably both.

Reply to  Barryjo
March 24, 2017 8:53 am

Strictly speaking, from a geological perspective, we are still in an Ice Age. We are in one of those relatively comfortable times called an interglacial, which simply means that the ice coverage is at or near the minimum, but way above zero. To get out of our current Ice Age, *all* of the perennial ice has to melt or sublime.

Alan Robertson
March 22, 2017 1:07 pm

OT, but a first at WUWT??? An entire post just disappeared.
By the numbers: Lifetime Performance of World’s First Offshore Wind Farm “
What’s up with that?

Chimp
Reply to  Alan Robertson
March 22, 2017 1:16 pm

I brought this to our host’s attention, and amid the site’s other issues, he is looking into the disappearance.

Reply to  Alan Robertson
March 22, 2017 1:21 pm

It’s back.

Jer0me
Reply to  Alan Robertson
March 22, 2017 1:21 pm

Still there for me. Try forcing a browser refresh (Ctrl-F5 in Windows).

Reply to  Jer0me
March 22, 2017 1:24 pm

It briefly vanished.

MarkW
Reply to  Jer0me
March 23, 2017 9:45 am

It’s either Soros or the Russians.

Jer0me
March 22, 2017 1:15 pm

I suggest coining a new name for these people: glaciophiles. It seems that they reaaly, really like glaciers, and probably won’t be happy until they are under a mile thick one 🙂

Reply to  Jer0me
March 22, 2017 1:18 pm

I really, really like glaciers too. I just prefer that they move away from, rather than toward, the equator.

Jer0me
Reply to  Jer0me
March 22, 2017 1:18 pm

For the record, I have nothing against glaciers. As my mother is Austrian, I have probably spent more time than most people on glaciers, up in the Alps. I can tell you that they are unpleasant and very dangerous places. Give me the tropics any day of the week!

Phaedrus
Reply to  Jer0me
March 22, 2017 5:09 pm

No mosquitoes on the glaciers means they’re safer for humans than the tropics are. In fact if we looked at glacier deaths v tropic malaria deaths we’d find a strong climate change correlation. (ARC)

NW sage
Reply to  Jer0me
March 22, 2017 5:23 pm

No mosquitoes is good. It means no yellow fever etc and that means a LOT more humans live.

Mark Luhman
Reply to  Jer0me
March 22, 2017 10:45 pm

As far a glaciers or the tropics is a good place to live for humans the tropics is where billion of humans live, glaciers very few it it over a few thousand it would surprise me. The tropics won that since it were humans evolved from.

MarkW
Reply to  Jer0me
March 23, 2017 9:49 am

NW Sage, how does that work out on a per capita basis? I suspect you will find more people in the tropics than on top of glaciers.

oeman50
Reply to  Jer0me
March 23, 2017 9:40 am

I like the timeline. It will happen sometime 300 to 500 years from now. Scotty will be able to save the glacier by then, just like he saved the whales.

Editor
March 22, 2017 1:16 pm

Figure S3 from their SI…
comment image?w=680

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1002/2016GL072394/asset/supinfo/grl55659-sup-0001-Text_S01.pdf?v=1&s=804c977f844f993f8cdc082b88aac721637cc8fe

It appears as if the Barnes Ice Cap is doomed in all three RCP scenarios.

Dale S
Reply to  David Middleton
March 22, 2017 1:58 pm

It also appears from figure S3 that the pre-1950 melt rate is also sufficient to get rid of the glacier , if continued. Figure 2B illustrates annual rates of changes, almost all of the historic values are negative. There was a sharp increase in loss in the 20s or 30s to over -5G, which then steadily reduced up to the point the calibration starts — I wonder what the effect on the model would be if the calibration had started in 1920 or 1880 instead of 1960, though I don’t know when the local temperature data is first available. As it stands, the loss rates indicated by geodetic data in the post-1960 period don’t appear remotely unprecedented.

Duster
Reply to  David Middleton
March 22, 2017 2:00 pm

Thoss plot all seem to be representative of the “gram of data/kilo of inference” problem. There’s more “inferred” than proven.

Duster
Reply to  Duster
March 22, 2017 2:00 pm

Arrgh – “Those plots …”

NW sage
Reply to  Duster
March 22, 2017 5:28 pm

First I ever heard of being able to date things (accurately?) using cosmic rays – suppose I wear a tin foil hat, does that make me younger? I seriously wonder about the peer reviewed basis for those so called thickness measurements. And THEN using that as input to a … model … which of course, like ALL climate modes stuff has been thoroughly peer reviewed and demonstrated to repeatably and accurately produce consistent results when run both backwards and forwards. RIGHT!

Svend Ferdinandsen
Reply to  David Middleton
March 22, 2017 2:03 pm

These two dots are the measurements, and then comes the predictions.
I wonder what they would think if it was gaining mass. Would that be good or would it be bad.
Or you could ask if it is good that we are not in a glaciation time. In the 1960-70 we where all scared by stories of the coming glaciation.

Robert of Ottawa
Reply to  Svend Ferdinandsen
March 22, 2017 2:20 pm

I can tell how poorly received would be the news that “Glaciers Move South Toward the Outtaouais” around here.

davidgmillsatty
Reply to  David Middleton
March 26, 2017 9:29 pm

It’s easy when you plug in the doom model.

Chimp
March 22, 2017 1:18 pm

It probably melted away during the previous interglacial, the Eemian, which was warmer than the Holocene and lasted longer than our current interglacial has so far as well.

It naturally fluctuates during warmer and colder spells.

Miller is making a career out of outlandish alarmist pronouncements after his junkets to the Canadian Arctic.

Bryan A
Reply to  Chimp
March 22, 2017 2:34 pm

This could be easily varifiable by drilling an ice core down to bedrock and dating the ice. Perhapps earlier melting events have left a base that is 1-200,000 years old and a mid range that is 20,000 years old. Or, if it had completely melted in the past, the base would be no older than the last complete melt period.

tty
Reply to  Bryan A
March 22, 2017 3:55 pm

Can’t be done. There is pleistocene ice at the bottom of the icecap, but this ice-cap has a very marginal position relative to the old Laurentide ice. The old ice in it was originally far away to the west and much higher. It is only possible to find the history of an ice-cap from an ice core at an ice-divide, where the ice hasn’t moved sideways, and in this case there is no such place.

davidgmillsatty
Reply to  Bryan A
March 26, 2017 9:32 pm

Well that is convenient, or inconvenient.

Bob Kutz
March 22, 2017 1:22 pm

“Only three times at most in that time period has the Barnes Ice Cap been so small, a study of isotopes created by cosmic rays that were trapped in rocks around the Barnes Ice Cap indicated.”

So . . . it’s been larger, and then three times in the past, as well as currently, it is this size . . . ?

And its our fault and its an emergency???

Alarmist FAIL!

Reply to  Bob Kutz
March 23, 2017 6:42 am

Excellent point.

March 22, 2017 1:27 pm

The last piece of the ice sheet that once blanketed much of North America is doomed to disappear in the next several centuries, says a new study by researchers at Simon Fraser University in British Columbia and the University of Colorado Boulder.

Yet another “doom and gloom” prediction/hypothesis that can’t be tested until far beyond anyone alive today ability to verify.

(Maybe they should photoshop in a cuddly polar bear on the ice behind the guy in the picture?)

Robert of Ottawa
Reply to  Gunga Din
March 22, 2017 2:22 pm

The last piece of the ice sheet that once blanketed much of North America is doomed to disappear

And I say “YAY!, just what the world needs! More Canada!”

davidgmillsatty
Reply to  Robert of Ottawa
March 26, 2017 9:34 pm

There are lots of people in India and China that need some elbow room. And people in the US that need healthcare.

Reply to  Gunga Din
March 22, 2017 4:36 pm

Doomed to disappear…unless it gets colder instead.
And if it disappears?
Then what?
A somewhat less frigidly frozen wasteland.
The horror!
What irks me the most is how he starts off with an iffy prediction based on a computer game, and one sentence later it is a done deal and has already happened.
Warmista jackassery at it’s very finest.

Reply to  Gunga Din
March 24, 2017 1:32 am

(Maybe they should photoshop in a cuddly polar bear on the ice behind the guy in the picture?)
& a penguin;
plus where are the pictures of a flooded city complete with rescue boat http://www.somewhereinitaly.it/individuals/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/venice-discovery-1.jpg

rovingbroker
March 22, 2017 1:27 pm

This has been going on for 20,000 years,

Barnes Ice Cap
The ice cap contains Canada’s oldest ice, some of it being over 20,000 years old.[2] It is a remnant of the Laurentide ice sheet, which covered much of Canada during the last glacial period of the Earth’s current ice age.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnes_Ice_Cap

Reply to  rovingbroker
March 22, 2017 2:54 pm

If I owned a swanky bar, I’d hire someone to get me a half-ton of that 20,000-year-old ice and offer it in drinks for a premium. Imagine making margaritas from Laurentian glacial remnants!

Caligula Jones
Reply to  James Schrumpf
March 23, 2017 12:12 pm

You laugh…but here in Canada, there is a commercial where a couple of urban hipsters row out to an iceberg to chip off some ice cubes…

Reply to  Caligula Jones
March 23, 2017 3:57 pm

I’m not laughing. If I did own said bar, I’d figure a way to get said ice.

Brad
March 22, 2017 1:32 pm

Articles like this should be forwarded to our new “climate surgeon” Scott Pruitt, so he can immediately excise the problem – funding for stupid stuff!!!!

Latitude
March 22, 2017 1:39 pm

Even if humans stopped emitting greenhouse gases today, the ice cap would still disappear in the next few centuries.

…oh well

Frederick Michael
Reply to  Latitude
March 22, 2017 4:17 pm

Thanks Latitude. That’s worth a bookmark.

asybot
Reply to  Latitude
March 22, 2017 11:44 pm

And here I thought there was hope fore the human race, I don’t know if I should cry (for them) or laugh out loud.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Latitude
March 23, 2017 3:13 am

Keep it up, keep the wailing going, heavy breathing etc, it helps the trees grow, all that extra CO2 don’t you know.

Resourceguy
March 22, 2017 1:40 pm

A $1 million grant compounded annually for 300 years at the rate of scare inflation is worth speculation or even certainty statements. Where are the Canadian researchers on this?

Ron Williams
Reply to  Resourceguy
March 22, 2017 11:01 pm

The lead author was Dr. Adrien Gilbert from Simon Fraser University (SFU) in Vancouver. Was a collaboration between Canada and Colorado. SFU churns out socialist leaning leftists and was principally responsible for convincing the BC Liberal party to implement the carbon tax in BC in 2008. The one that ‘everyone’ says is revenue neutral and the best designed CT in the world. Of course it isn’t revenue neutral, since it is mainly essentials we must buy up here where it is winter 6 months of the year. And with the BC provincial election on May 9th, there is plenty of money to splash around to buy the election. It is really a wealth transfer from the poor to the upper middle class with a large cut going to Govt for admin.

I suppose the alternative is worse with the NDP socialists. And absolutely Catastrophic with the Green Party, whose leader is the infamous Dr. Andrew Weaver, a former climate science (mathematics) prof from UVIC at Victoria, the other one who sues his critic’s for libel (money) God help us all if a ‘real’ climate scientist gets into power.

Wharfplank
March 22, 2017 1:40 pm

Along with the usual pearl-clutching, they managed to introduce the birth of Christ as the beginning of all this instability. Bravo.

davidgmillsatty
Reply to  Wharfplank
March 26, 2017 9:40 pm

But Jesus will save us. He must have started this global warming scare. Mann is an imposter.

wws
March 22, 2017 1:40 pm

Funny, but this kinda reminds me of the “Snow Pack will disappear from the Sierra Madre Soon!!!!” story.

TomRude
March 22, 2017 1:47 pm

The Barnes Ice Cap is like a canary in a coal mine, said Miller…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tweety

davidgmillsatty
Reply to  TomRude
March 26, 2017 9:42 pm

I thought Trump was. Or Obama or Bush or Clinton. How many canaries in the coal mine can there be?

March 22, 2017 1:51 pm

300 years? A chunk of ice in the high arctic? No one cares, and it doesn’t matter. In fact, good riddance. Maybe some caribou or something will be able to use the new found land (woops, we already have a place called that).

Sandyb
Reply to  Jeff in Calgary
March 22, 2017 3:10 pm

The ice is gone. Yea. Plant potatoes!!!!

Richard G
Reply to  Sandyb
March 23, 2017 3:06 am

We’ll plant potatoes on Mars before we can plant them on the Barnes Ice Cap.

MarkW
Reply to  Sandyb
March 23, 2017 9:57 am

I thought they already did. Didn’t they make a documentary on that this past year?

Grant24
March 22, 2017 1:52 pm

Canadian Forces Base Alert (Ellesmere Island) current temperature -24F
Frobisher bay (Baffin Island) current temperature -1F (long-john weather tomorrow -17F)

March 22, 2017 1:53 pm

I wish it would hurry up and disappear. That way Barnes woild be out of a job and stop wasting junket money.

Bruce Cobb
March 22, 2017 1:57 pm

Alarmists love their canary-in the coal-mine meme. It’s part of their harbingers-of-doom syndrome. These so-called “scientists” are actually doomed to go the way of the Dodo bird. Thankfully.

RAH
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
March 23, 2017 7:16 am

What’s funny is every single canary they have claimed would die is still chirping merrily away it seems. Can anyone here remember any instances where a canary in their coal mine died? Here are just a few examples of the many that were predicted to die that are still chirping.
http://climatechangepredictions.org/?s=canary+in+a+coal+mine

MarkW
Reply to  RAH
March 23, 2017 9:58 am

The only thing these canaries need to worry about is old age.
And cats.

March 22, 2017 2:04 pm

This is the new title to the Game of Thrones sequel — “All Glaciers Must Die”. I mean what good are immortal glaciers anyway?

Robert B
March 22, 2017 2:09 pm

A quick search of old papers and scientists were making similar claims until 1950, then
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article171587347
New york (a.p.) . —
For some time now
there has been a scientific
suspicion that the world’s
many icebergs are melting
into the world s oceans.
This is .not true, says
Dr. R. P. Goldthwait, of
Ohio State University.
– The Arctic Ice cap at Baffin— a
part of the huge glacier sheet that
once covered ‘ the midwest of the
United States— actually is getting
larger, he reports.

Reply to  Robert B
March 22, 2017 2:19 pm

That’s funny, the bit on the graphs above covering 1900 to 2000 doesn’t show the size growing in 1950. Oh, wait! The blue line isn’t actual measurements, it’s “historical forcings!” So the hindcast gets the 1950’s wrong, but the forecast is good out to 2400.

Standard climate science methods and results.

Reply to  tw2017
March 22, 2017 6:22 pm

+100 Robert B and tw2017!

Jaakko Kateenkorva
March 22, 2017 2:10 pm

“The results provide compelling evidence that the current level of warming is almost unheard of in the past 2.5 million years, according to the authors.”

What is almost unheard of? The moraine deposits count only partially? Or Australopithecus afarensis Lucy et al started it?

Robert of Ottawa
March 22, 2017 2:14 pm

I for one salute our new ice-free country.

nc
March 22, 2017 2:15 pm

Maybe he should move onto tropical glaciers and get more travel points on the taxpayer dime.

“ike polar ice caps, tropical glaciers that are located high in the equatorial mountain ranges are disappearing due to global warming.”

http://scienceline.org/2008/12/ask-konkel-tropical-glaciers-melting-andes-mountains-runoff-groundwater/

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