From the “say anything to save the planet” department comes this wackadoodle idea from Weepy Bill. I’m sure ISIS will get behind him to drain our defense budget fighting mostly intangible threats.
Described by the Boston Globe as “America’s most important environmentalist”, 350.org founder Bill McKibben says America’s defense budget must “be put to work defending us against the most dangerous adversaries we face” — climate change.
BILL MCKIBBEN:
“It should be possible to build large quantities of solar panels and turbine blades, and it should be possible to put lots of people at work on good jobs doing that, okay? And it should be a huge priority, and if you think we don’t have the money then you’re not paying attention. We have things like the defense budget that need to be put to work defending us against the most dangerous adversaries we face. The conceit of that New Republic piece was that we are in fact already at war though we do not really recognize it. But, by all the measures that we normally count as warfare, that’s what’s going on. We’re losing territory day by day. People are being killed day by day in great numbers. There will probably be added to that death toll tonight someplace along the coast of Florida. We’re at war, we’re just not fighting back, and the time has come to do that, and it will take as the history of WWII shows, government leadership to make that happen. It will take a concentrated national effort and a concentrated international effort to make that happen. It won’t happen on its own, it requires leadership.”
Bill McKibben: The Hottest Fight in the Hottest Year – Oberlin College Oberlin, Ohio October 6, 2016
h/t to the Harry Read Me Files and Matt Dempsey
you can weep all you want about the past and post whatever revisionist histories you feel compelled to believe. It is freedom of speech. I for one don’t think that trying to make democracies out of theological dictatorships or tribal based politcial systems has a lot of hope. We are having enough trouble trying to keep our current government from routing us into a tribally based poitcal system by using identity politics as the basis enforced with a large dose of political correctness for the guilt trip. Having said that if we take milatary actions let us do it with punishment in mind and then get out leaving wreck and ruin as an object lesson. This takes things (equipment and systems) that WORK and are not just sexy new toys to play with. Obama still has not learned you can bomb or shell anyone out a position – it takes the ground pounders to do it right and guess what we are reducing now. The subject [OH NO Mr. Bill !!!] would “save the planet ” at the cost of our liberty and subject us all to a theocratic based dictatorship – “As long as the planet is safe”. to borrow someone elses motto – “Live free or die”
All real democracies are ‘home grown’ entities. And most last only so long before turning back to tyranny. In the US, we still have ‘elections’ but these are increasingly controlled by the elites and proof is obvious, for example, Hillary was supposed to ‘run’ against no one in the Democratic side. Sanders got pissed about this and ran quite successfully against her but the media hated him and the DNC guys attacked him and protected Hillary and now we are stuck with her. The Clinton controls will be reimposed on us all.
I agree. Besides I never could understand why we were pushing democracy when pure democracy as a form of government was proven unworkable in our early colonies and we don’t even have one ourselves. After all we are a constitutional republic (or constitutional federal representative democracy as WAPO would call it).
Sorry – Obama still has not learned that you CAN’T bomb or shell anyone out of a position.
Some day I will learn to proof read correctly – hard to do during a rant.
9 out of 10 leftist agenda items are hidden anti-war efforts trying to loot the military budget. There was a documentary made way back in the 1980s titles Iron Mountain Blue Print to Tyranny that outlined how the left wants to create booby men to unite the world against a common enemy so they stop fighting themselves. The Alien Threat, The Coming Ice Age, etc etc are all efforts to distract the people and unify them against a common goal.
https://youtu.be/VAcNFQGKWPs
In the UK, the main opposition party supports building nuclear submarines, sailing the seas fully equipped for a nuclear war, but without carrying any warheads.
“A common danger unites even the bitterest enemies.” – Aristotle
The problem is that whenever this principle is applied proactively, those who are seeking to force the unification of the people end up being perceived as the common danger.
Actually, since our Real Rulers are plotting WWIII, forcing them to disarm and do something, anything different, is good! Radicalized Islam: NATO created this to attack Russia way back in the USSR days. Then, it turned against the West and then died off nearly entirely until the US decided to illegally attack Iraq, an innocent bystander, after Saudis attacked us on 9/11. So now we are off the cliff in this business while at the same time, our Real Rulers who live in palaces and fly all over the planet and whose carbon footprint is the size of Godzilla, want to hector us about global warming…I hope they get their way and we see a full revolt of the peons! It will happen, of course. All these palaces will be burned down and looted.
Wow, is there anything you know that is actually true?
If radicalized Islam had died down before 2003, please explain the many al Qaeda attacks on US targets at home and abroad in 1992, 1993, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2003. Thanks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_al-Qaeda_attacks
To which could be added Mogadishu, 1992. The clan which attacked US and UN forces there learned how to use RPGs against helicopters from bin Laden’s operatives.
wackadoodle was entered into the Oxford English Dictionary in 2014.
It is a word, for real.
I would love to play a word-association game with Bill McKibben.
I cannot anticipate the connections he would make.
I foresee a Hasbro game or app called McKibben wherein the objective is to make a sentence out of random words. … madlibs …oh…ok it has been done.
Here… you too can pretend to be Bill McKibben:
http://www.madlibs.org/cgi-bin/madlib?physics.ml2
here you go back- pretend to be willis!
http://www.phrontistery.info/
Any war created by the government whether a War on Drugs, Poverty, Terrorism, and now CO2 are just conduits for theft and corruption by politicians and their cronies like McKibben. All any war does is take away my property and freedom
This is the climate war.
Bring it on, Reichsfuhrer McKibben
Apparently Mr. McKibben got a degree from Harvard but missed getting an education there. If he had he would have read about King Canute, or he would know: “Let all men know how empty and worthless is the power of kings, for there is none worthy of the name, but He whom heaven, earth, and sea obey by eternal laws.”
We don’t control the world or its climate. Never have, never will.
Well stated. Question. What is more arrogant, man caused CAGW or man can stop CAGW?
Depends on what education means. Today it is more like indoctrination.
Is there a budget in there to direct the enemy to the solar panels to be fried by the heat or toward the turbines to crash the planes? That’s the only possible “defense” usage of these items. In reality (where McKibben seems to have escaped from), that is probably the only real use for the panels and turbines. As a secondary use, the panels and turbines employ people overseas in countries where mining and manufacturing are not regulated so the cost is held down while the planet is poisoned, and they transfer huge amounts of taxpayer money to the ultra-rich, like Buffet and many power companies. Oh, and they kill those pesky eagles and the endangered desert species that used to live where the solar panels are. Funny you can’t clear cut a forest except for turbine installation and you can’t walk on the fragil desert but you can plaster the area with tons of metal and glass. Again, these people do not live in reality.
Obviously Obummer’s Chief of Staff for War Time Policy.
It’s even worse-r than we thought, we thought!
Bill needs to pull his head out, and get some fresh air. Oxygen deprivation appears to be setting in.
There’s always plexibody surgery. It doesn’t do much for the oxygen deprivation though.
If this guy truly believed what he was saying he’d be weeping.
Building all those wind turbines will require a lot of steel– thus a lot of energy, a lot of coal, a lot of iron…
The America First movement never really went away, it went dormant like Peak Oil. The doomsday clock is really driven by them as best exemplified by the thought experiment of what would have happened if America First had keep the U.S. out of WW2 for one additional year. The super weapons would have been in mass production the world would be very different today. Only the madness of another rouge state attacking Pearl Harbor upset the doomsday clock.
hmmm such a massive operation would see emissions skyrocket.. seems legit
If the threat is as serious as Bill McKibben indicates, perhaps we should drastically cut HIGHER EDuCATiON budgets to fight climate change.
Looks like the Green Establishment is going off the rails and in full metal panic with Saint Mathew “Global Human Climate Sharknado” did no kill all the White and Jewish republicans who Obama hates so much.
If the election does not go for Hillary and the Supreme Court is again deadlocked Obama will just have to declare himself “Governor” of U.S.A. and start building the crematoria on U.S. Army bases to deal with the “newly minted non immigrants” in the U.S.A.
Ha ha
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/eaus/h5-loop-wv.html
Holdren, “THIS INSULT WILL NOT PASS.”
Next week in D.C. land should be lots of laughs! 🙂
We have money to fight climate change. It’s just that we’re spending it on defense, by Kenneth Pennington
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/08/climate-change-defense-spending-fighter-plane-climate-change-defense-spending-fighter-plane-program
Kenneth Pennington was Bernie Sanders’ digital director during his candidacy for the Democratic presidential nomination. Bill McKibben was one of 5 Bernie appointments of the DNC. I don’t know how many articles on this theme ‘they’ submitted to major media outlets but it looks like the Guardian was the only one to host this policy.
Wow…..Anybody who needs any more proof that this guy is absolutely NUTS must be mentally deficient themselves..
‘it should be possible to put lots of people at work on good jobs doing that’
It’s always “good” jobs they are going to create, never crappy ones, like I envision installing solar panels.
RoHA and Snedly Arkus:
ON October 7, 2016 at 10:42 pm, RoHa says:
“How much do you value your freedom and human rights?”
Very much, but US warmongering doesn’t do a lot for anyone’s freedom or human rights.
On Oct 7 at 7:15 pm he says:
“These would help Americans and make the US seem like less of a threat to the world.”
So sorry RoHa, but I find it fascinating and incomprehensible that you somehow consider democratic governments (or at least ours here in the U.S. anyway) “warmongering” and “..a threat to the world”. A look at history shows us that the major wars of the last century were started by non-democratic governments. WWII Nazi Germany and militarist Japan, North Korea in the early 1950s, the German and Austria-Hungarian Empires of WWI. It is not democratic governments that were responsible for mass killings and deaths in the last century as were Stalinist Russia, Maoist China, Pol Pot in Cambodia, etc.
As Roger Graves said above, our foreign policy behavior has not been exactly perfect over the years. The paranoia of the Cold War did drive us to do a lot of things we probably should not have done. And I do question the wisdom of the second Iraq War where we overthrew Saddam….there were no weapons of mass destruction, and Iraq has been unstable ever since.
But we did these things out of fear for our survival, not out of a desire to be “warmongering” or “a threat to the world”. That is what I think you and Snedly Arkus may not understand…democracies do not think and normally behave the same way as and totalitarian dictatorships and non-democratic empires do.
If you and Snedly Arkus (and his screed was even worse than what you said) dislike your country that much, you are both free to emigrate. No one is forcing either of you to stay here.
And BTW Snedly, did you ever hear of a concept called a paragraph? They usually teach it in schools at the elementary level.
Yes. Democracies go to war against themselves. Primary example: Lincoln’s illegal war against Southern Independence. Continues today to wipe out all signs of Southern Culture.
Wasn’t the South the first to fire the shots?
People are no longer isolated like the used to be. Mass media, travel, employment, etc.are forces that affect “culture”. The South is free to have their own culture if that’s what they want and I enjoy Southern culture. It’s very charming.
Barbara, you need to read some Clyde N. Wilson to better understand the war on all things Southern.
Does it seem weird that the Republicans, the party of Lincoln, are considered to be anti-black, while the Democrats, former Confederates, are considered to be pro-black?
“We’re at war…”. Yes, we are. And you Billy-boy, and your Greenie anti-democratic, anti-human, and anti-science cohorts are the enemy.
I’d say that Bill should declare the War on Climate Change is over and he won. After all, has the climate changed anywhere in the world since he formed 350.org? (Hint: no.)
Nice job, Bill. We can all move on to other things, now.