Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders: Climate Change is STILL the Number One Security Threat

Castle Bravo Nuclear Bomb test at Bikini Atoll. Public domain image, source Wikimedia
Castle Bravo Nuclear Bomb test at Bikini Atoll. Public domain image, source Wikimedia

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

In the aftermath of the horrific events in Paris, you would think some politicians might have been jolted into reconnecting with reality, regarding the relative dangers posed by climate change vs terrorism. But a few politicians seem to be clinging to the ridiculous view, that climate change is somehow more of a threat, than well organised homicidal maniacs.

According to Slate;

At Saturday night’s second Democratic presidential debate, just a day after ISIS launched horrific coordinated terrorist attacks in Paris, moderator and Slate political columnist John Dickerson asked Bernie Sanders a straightforward question: “Sen. Sanders, you said you want to rid the planet of ISIS. In the previous debate you said the greatest threat to national security was climate change. Do you still believe that?”

Sanders didn’t hesitate: “Absolutely.”

Read more: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/11/14/bernie_sanders_was_right_on_climate_change_and_terrorism_at_the_debate.html

Guns and bombs are horrible enough, but they might only be a taste of what the near future holds. For example, lets consider the issue of nuclear terrorism.

Iran, an alleged sponsor of state terrorism, is rapidly approaching the point at which they could potentially possess substantial quantities of highly enriched Uranium – though Iran claims they are enriching Uranium for peaceful purposes. Financially bankrupt North Korea has produced enough HEU to make at least one or two bombs, at least one of which they have detonated. Unstable Pakistan, which suffers frequent military coups, possesses an unknown number of nuclear bombs, and bomb making material. Other countries are almost certainly either operating, or considering, their own nuclear programmes – in many cases in response to concerns about what their neighbours are doing.

I’m not suggesting that even Iran, which holds regular public “death to America” rallies, necessarily actually wants to blow up an American city. But as enrichment technology spreads, sooner or later, some of the material currently in the possession of corrupt, unstable regimes, is going to find its way into the hands of someone who wants to kill a lot of people.

Possession of Highly Enriched Uranium is a dream scenario for wannabe nuclear terrorists. HEU is incredibly difficult to produce, but once it has been produced, it is as easy to handle as any other lump of metal – as long as you are careful not to pile too much mass in one place, before you are ready to detonate the bomb.

1. HEU is incredibly stealthy. Highly Enriched Uranium, unlike Plutonium, is not very radioactive, until it reaches critical mass and carves the heart out of a major city. Your only hope of detecting a smuggled HEU component is to make it “fizz” – to target the hidden consignment with a beam of neutrons, in the hope of simulating a small secondary nuclear fission reaction. If you are lucky, the secondary reaction will set off your radiation detector. If the sample of HEU which you are trying to tickle with the neutron beam is small, or has a suboptimal shape (flat and thin, rather than ball shaped), and is well concealed behind plenty of shielding, you are unlikely to get a significant response to your neutron beam. For example, if say a consignment of tractors were imported into a country, and some of the washers in the engines of the tractors were made out of HEU rather than steel, it is unlikely the subterfuge would be detected. HEU is twice as dense as lead, so you wouldn’t need many washer size pieces of HEU, to create the critical mass of material required for a terrorist bomb.

2. HEU has a good shelf life. Unlike Plutonium, whose half-life is 24,000 years, Highly Enriched Uranium has a half-life of 700 million years. Your HEU bomb components could sit on a shelf and remain perfectly viable for centuries, providing they were protected from corrosion. Once HEU is in circulation, the threat it poses will be very hard to contain.

3. HEU is easy to use. Unlike Plutonium, which requires complex implosion triggers, HEU can in principle be detonated by smashing two lumps of material together. The other components required to produce a working nuclear bomb are fairly easy to obtain, with the exception of a Polonium initiator, which may or may not be required for the construction of a viable atomic bomb. However, as the recent assassination of Alexander Litvenenko demonstrated, smuggling Polonium into a Western country is not a significant challenge. Polonium is highly radioactive, but most of its radiation is emitted in the form of Alpha particles, which are very easy to shield from detection – a few sheets of paper would suffice. In the case of the Litvinenko murder, the Polonium was carried undetected in liquid form, in a small glass or plastic bottle.

As for building a HEU bomb, the required construction technique is well within the skill level of a terrorist bomb expert, possibly with the assistance of an expert metal machinist. Probably not much more complex than making a pipe bomb.

Will someone successfully build and use a terrorist nuclear bomb? It is impossible to say. But in any case, the nuclear threat is only the tip of the iceberg – we haven’t covered other routes to atrocity, such as weaponised diseases; Ebola, Anthrax, or maybe a strain of the Plague which has been deliberately bred to be antibiotic resistant.

Plague should especially concern Americans. 10 – 15 people are infected with the plague every year in mainland America, from exposure to animal carriers in the wild. A wannabe biological terrorist wouldn’t have to cross any international borders, to obtain their US plague sample. The only reason the Plague is not a bigger issue in America, is that there are effective treatments. A weaponised version of the plague, which has been deliberately hardened, by repeatedly exposing generations of cultured plague bacteria to slowly increasing doses of antibiotics, selecting for mutants which can resist the antibiotics, might not be so easy to stop. Of course you would have to also regularly try your hardened mutant strain on a few test subjects, to make sure your selective breeding process hadn’t damaged the virulence of your biological weapon – but psychotic terrorists wouldn’t have any qualms about kidnapping a steady supply of victims.

For small payloads, such as biological weapons, you wouldn’t even have to launch the attack from America. Small, fully automated drones are commercially available, which have a maximum range of thousands of miles. It would be entirely possible to launch a stealthy, high precision drone attack against mainland North America, from a base in South America, Africa or Europe, or an attack against Europe, from a launch site in Northern Africa or the Middle East.

Why have I explored these ghastly scenarios, in such nauseating detail? I believe people who claim climate change is more of a threat than terrorism haven’t faced up to the reality of what is possible. Suggesting all of these horrific yet technically viable scenarios are somehow less of a threat, than a mild temperature rise which might or might not manifest over the next few decades, in my opinion is completely nuts.

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Paul Westhaver
November 15, 2015 9:27 pm

Bernie Sanders is a useful idiot. Keep talking Bernie.

dp
November 15, 2015 9:32 pm

This article is a classic example of indoctrinating the audience to lap up the next step – exercising the precautionary principle against perceived threats. Maybe that only means the precautionary principle is vulnerable to dire circumstances that make it the lesser evil. How long before those who failed with RICO begin a new campaign targeting climate terrorists (avoids the hated climate denier meme, at least) while pounding the drum of the precautionary principle? My guess is some organization somewhere is already at work on this and it will arise in some form at COP21.
Back on topic, Bernie is wrong on two counts but he’s never really been the sharpest knife in the drawer.

November 15, 2015 9:33 pm

Bernie is just one of the many components of the caldron of political slop bubbling before our eyes. I don’t need to list much to give one a case of the sweats. Russia looking for land, France going full bore blaster, Western politics in full pussy mode and rising powerful, huge, and unstable economies vulnerable to crisis, total world dependence on everything coming from somewhere else, an insane diversion of investments into toy power generation, a proliferation of entitled populations who demand they be cared for at an ever increasing rate, and no end in sight for any of this. I need not go on. All we need is to sparge in a catalyst and who knows what kind of troll will leap from the pot.

Charles Nelson
November 15, 2015 10:09 pm

WUWT is doing untold damage to its reputation for even handedness with this recent foray into ‘politics’.
Shoddy science and corruption can be condemned from any point on the political spectrum.
The amount of irrational hatred and ignorance on display here over the last couple of days has left me feeling a little queasy. I really don’t want to turn my back on this site, but I will if you keep this up.

les
Reply to  Charles Nelson
November 15, 2015 10:46 pm

100 times agreed.

AndyG55
Reply to  Charles Nelson
November 15, 2015 11:09 pm

seriously?
Some guy says climate is the #1 threat? and you think AW is being political?
REALLY ???????

AB
Reply to  AndyG55
November 16, 2015 12:31 am

+ 100 [there was a need to balance “les”}

Jim in London
Reply to  Charles Nelson
November 15, 2015 11:59 pm

Irrational hated making you feel queasy you want to turn your back on it then challenge it instead.
If Paris has taught us anything it. Is in the face of the onslaught of hated we can’t run away.
Climate debate Climate Skeptism is part of the democratic process which we have to continue the dead and the injured in Paris we owe them that

emsnews
Reply to  Charles Nelson
November 16, 2015 3:31 am

Absolutely.

Samuel C. Cogar
Reply to  Charles Nelson
November 16, 2015 4:16 am

The amount of irrational hatred and ignorance on display here over the last couple of days has left me feeling a little queasy. I really don’t want to turn my back on this site, but I will if you keep this up.

Apparently one of the younger generation that truly believes that ….. “Emotionally offending words will break your bones but sticks and stones will never harm you”.
T’is utterly amazing the number of people that make “life and death decisions” …. based on the “queasy” feelings in their stomach.

David A
Reply to  Samuel C. Cogar
November 16, 2015 5:06 am

I am curious though what “irrational hatred and ignorance” the poster was referring to before threatening to run off to his safe space.

MarkW
Reply to  Samuel C. Cogar
November 16, 2015 6:39 am

The left has a long history of defining any view that they disagree with as hateful.

JustSteve
Reply to  Charles Nelson
November 16, 2015 5:00 am

Politics is what drives AGW proponents. You cannot separate the two when every proposal they make either requires billions of dollars of other people’s money or, in the most extreme cases, incarceration or execution of those that disagree with their prescriptions.
While Anthony and the contributors to WUWT most often stick to the science, pointing out the politics is unavoidable IF you’re paying attention. Scientists can’t, on their own, lay a hand on your money or person. Governments can.
It’s called living in reality.

MarkW
Reply to  Charles Nelson
November 16, 2015 6:38 am

The trolls are out in force, demanding that the failures of their peculiar religion remain hidden from the masses.

Catcracking
Reply to  Charles Nelson
November 16, 2015 8:14 am

I’m curious, how do you deal with Bernie with these comments about others who disagree with him?
“In a statement, Sen. Sanders said:
I applaud President Obama for recognizing that climate change is the great planetary crisis facing our country and the world. I support his plan to cut greenhouse gas emissions from coal-fired power plants and to promote more wind and solar power and other sources of renewable energy.
It is time for Republicans in Congress to stop obstructing efforts to transform our energy system away from fossil fuels and toward energy efficiency and renewable energy sources.
I understand that Republicans, including many of those running for president, are dependent on the Koch brothers, oil companies, and other fossil-fuel contributors. Maybe for once they can overcome the needs of their campaign contributors and worry instead about the planet they are leaving their kids and grandchildren and young people all over the world.”
Do you find truth in these statements from Bernie?
Are you comfortable to eliminate fossil fuels and starve the world?

dp
Reply to  Charles Nelson
November 16, 2015 10:35 am

Climate change debate exists because it is political. The science is actually pretty well documented though ignored in favor of models and it is models alone that fuels the politics. No discussion of climate today can be without politics and that has been true since Hansen’s gangsters fiddled with the thermostat at the congressional hearings those many years ago.

November 15, 2015 10:39 pm

There are many reasons to vote for a GOP candidate. Most of them are called Bernie Sanders.

AndyG55
November 15, 2015 11:06 pm

Sanders? Is this guy into chicken?
Does yummy chicken !!
(or is that chicken-little)

Mike McMillan
November 16, 2015 12:31 am

Thanks for that inspirational photo at the top of the page. After that test, there was no Bikini Atoll.

Patrick
Reply to  Mike McMillan
November 16, 2015 12:53 am

It’s still there. What is gone is the test site, replaced with a ~200m diameter submerged crater.

Mike the Morlock
Reply to  Patrick
November 16, 2015 9:23 am

Some of the warships anchored off the island survived the test and had to sunk later. The BB USS New York and the CV USS Saratoga come to mind.
michael

dp
Reply to  Patrick
November 16, 2015 10:38 am

Eh…. I think you missed some humor there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88QOmxSa-IE

Mike the Morlock
Reply to  Mike McMillan
November 16, 2015 3:45 pm

pd
thanks
michael 🙂

Crispin in Waterloo
November 16, 2015 12:57 am

I doubt N Korea can make a nuke. They were probably given one by a friend to keep up appearances. Their missile program consists of about forty Russian engineers who lost their jobs back home.
One of the greatest contributions to keeping the world safe from nuclear weapons was South Africa’s decision to pretend to be making pebble bed reactors long enough for the old boys to collect their pension checks.
One of the gravest threats from nukes is Iran trying to take out Saudi Arabia. The casual Westener knows little of where the real religious animosities lie. Taking pot shots at the infidels is a sideshow.

Patrick
Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo
November 16, 2015 1:08 am

Well a nuclear fissile bomb is not really needed to fill people with fear. All is needed is some radioactive material, such as found in medical equipment, and a conventional bomb, and a few city blocks are brought to a standstill!

MarkW
Reply to  Patrick
November 16, 2015 6:44 am

The ultimate fear weapon, yet the reality is that it’s fairly easy to clean up such contamination.
Guys with Geiger counters in protective suits pick up the biggest pieces, then set up filters in the storm water drains and bring out fire hoses.
The area will remain marginally above background for a few years, but the reality is that background radiation varies tremendously depending on where you live. Living in the Rockies will expose you to 2 or 3 times more radiation over your lifetime than you would get living on the coast.
Higher elevation means more cosmic radiation and granite is a natural concentrator of uranium.
For that matter, your granite counter top will set off most Geiger counters.

simple-touriste
Reply to  Patrick
November 16, 2015 9:56 am

Tour Montparnasse was evacuated because… it was discovered that some asbestos was present.
People have been working there for years. Everything was stopped because they could not take the risk of a few more days of “contamination”.
Don’t come in France to do business.
Don’t invest in France.
Crazyness is the norm.

dp
Reply to  Patrick
November 16, 2015 10:43 am

Or something less obvious like a slurry of radioactive material dumped into the water tank of a street sweeper. Any science fiction writer can come up with many ways to deliver a deadly payload without drawing attention to themselves with explosives. If the purpose is to project terror you really only need to do simple but terrifying things.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hahn

Patrick
Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo
November 16, 2015 1:10 am

I thought the target was Israel?

David A
Reply to  Patrick
November 16, 2015 5:15 am

Indeed it is, however any ideology based on taking the head off of anyone who disagrees with you, is going to manifest that ideology in perpetual wars, both external, and internal as in Sunni vs Shia. This along with a well trained and armed military has kept Israel alive. In Islamic ideology world domination is the goal, they just have trouble defining the specifics of who the leaders are while trying to get there.

Bryan
November 16, 2015 1:00 am

C

Bryan
Reply to  Bryan
November 16, 2015 1:11 am

Sorry, presses wrong key.
What does this essay hope to achieve.
The author is clearly a Republican.
Turning a purely scientific question about the effect of increased CO2 in the atmosphere into a political football is no help to the skeptic cause.
This ya – boo slanging match approach will alienate Democrats and others on the left.
In the fullness of time the effect of atmospheric CO2 will be fully understood and hopefully no-one will feel obliged to change which party the y support.

Samuel C. Cogar
Reply to  Bryan
November 16, 2015 4:30 am

….. will alienate Democrats and others on the left.
You can’t alienate “the left” any more than what they already are.

JustSteve
Reply to  Bryan
November 16, 2015 5:05 am

So, in pointing out what a socialist Democrat (Bernie’s own term) says you’re able to divine someone else’s political affiliation.
So, what will the Power Ball numbers be next Wednesday?

David A
Reply to  Bryan
November 16, 2015 5:23 am

“What does this essay hope to achieve?”
=================
If you support the idea of blaming 1400 years of Islamic terrorism on your SUV then this post is not for you.
The following were not caused by your SUV…
The Paris Killers were Muslim
The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
The U.S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
The Moscow Theater Attackers were Muslims
The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims

MarkW
Reply to  Bryan
November 16, 2015 6:45 am

Pointing out that Sanders is an idiot means you are clearly a Republican?

MarkW
Reply to  Bryan
November 16, 2015 6:47 am

If I were to point out that Hillary lied in her claims regarding gun deaths, would that make me a Republican too?

dp
Reply to  Bryan
November 16, 2015 10:48 am

Sanders can be an idiot independently of party affiliation of who ever notices his idiocy.

richard
November 16, 2015 1:06 am

No 1 threat eh,
the world has been greening for the last 30 years, food price index is at an 8 year low-
http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/11/15/noaa-u-s-deaths-caused-by-severe-weather-hit-22-year-low-in-2014/

dp
Reply to  richard
November 16, 2015 11:30 pm

Food is so cheap nobody grows it anymore. Inspired by Yogi Berra.

King of Cool
November 16, 2015 1:38 am

CO2 induced Climate Change disappears into insignificance compared with several real threats to mankind from natural disasters caused from within the earth’s crust and from outer space let alone from the ever mutating bugs and viruses that continuously invade our bodies.
The human race also has the ability to go a long way in destroying itself in a Dr Strangelove scenario that is not impossible at some stage of our future.
But to-day, I do not think that ISIS has the capacity or the desire to use a nuclear weapon against the West. Even if remotely possible I am sure that the US President from either side of the political spectrum would have no hesitation in ensuring that the West obliterated their Caliphate out of existence first… and ISIS must realise that and want to leave a some sort of legacy no matter how many virgins are waiting up there in the desert sky.
No, I am sure our immediate and mid term threat is unfortunately going to be a lot more of what we have seen in Paris – cheap, effective and very hard to prevent. The first thing we need to in combating it is to divert sufficient funds and the unity and will from the non problem towards a solution to the real one.

Marcus
Reply to  King of Cool
November 16, 2015 2:47 am

Sorry king of fools, The ISIS goal is to bring about Armageddon via a Caliphate !!

ferdberple
Reply to  King of Cool
November 16, 2015 6:24 am

I do not think that ISIS has … the desire to use a nuclear weapon against the West
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Would you invite someone into your house, when that person fundamentally believes that God’s will is that they throw you out of your house?
the problem people fail to realize is that Islam is not homogeneous. There a different schools of Islamic Law. Some require that you convert of die. Others will tolerate your existence so long as you are willing to submit and pay.
But in all cases you either must convert to Islam, submit to the authority of Islam, or die. This is God’s will. There is no middle ground. There is no tolerant multiculturalism.

MarkW
Reply to  King of Cool
November 16, 2015 6:47 am

I have no doubt that ISIS would use a nuclear weapon if they had one.

ralfellis
November 16, 2015 1:52 am

>>I’m not suggesting that even Iran, which holds regular
>>public “death to America” rallies, necessarily actually wants
>>to blow up an American city.
Of course they do, that is why this is so dangerous. Look up ‘eschatology’, and start to worry.
Iranias are Shia ‘twelvers’. Like ex-president Armadinnerjacket, they await the comming of Ali, the twelfth immam. The twelfth immam is currently hiding down a well, and he has been there for the last 1,200 years. And he will only come out if the well when Muslims are severely persecuted, and then he will save the righteous and everyone will become Muslim.
There are many Iranian clerics and politicians – just like Armadinnerjacket – who believe that the best way to get the immam out of the well is to arrange a nuclear strike against Israel or America. Then tere will be a retalliation, which will be the ‘persecution’ of Muslims, and the immam will come out of the well and lead Iran to world domination. This is why Armadinnerjacket made that eshatology speech in the UN, saying that Israel should be destroyed. I will look out for it when I get back home. I have trouble with videos on the iPad.
Sound crazy? Yeah, sure, but it is not unlike the Chrestian belief in Armageddon. And this is why the Iranians want a nuclear bomb so badly – they want to start the eschatological Armageddon process, so they will eventually triumph over the West. The old Cold War doctrine of M.A.D. does not work with Iran, because they WANT to die.
And people like Obama and his advisors know this full well, because they sacked Robert Spencer for telling the CIA all about this, back in 2011. So having been informed about Shia eschatology, which has been a central component of Shia doctrine for 1,200 years, you have to ask yourself why Obama agreed to give Iran nuclear technology. Just whose side is this guy on? What are his true intentions for America and the West??
Ralph

Marcus
Reply to  ralfellis
November 16, 2015 2:49 am

+ 1,000

Marcus
Reply to  ralfellis
November 16, 2015 2:50 am

Obama was raised as a muslim..period !!!

Patrick
Reply to  Marcus
November 16, 2015 3:32 am

Islam spawned ~700n years from the Judeo/Christian rubbish.

MarkW
Reply to  Marcus
November 16, 2015 6:50 am

I really love it when atheists go out of their way to prove that they know nothing.

ralfellis
Reply to  Marcus
November 16, 2015 1:40 pm

Well, Patrick is kinda right in that Islam came from Judaeo-Christianity. Most of the historical texts the K refers to are short synopses of Torah stories, but shorn of their detail, and many of their characters, and much of their meaning (the K is quite short an frustratingly repetitive). Many of these stories have a slightly different view to the standard Torah. And since the K mentions the flight of the Sabaeans in the early 6th century a number of times, it is likely that the Torah stories came via Saba.
The K then adds the history of Muhummad’s military campaigns against the Meccan camel trains and against the Jews of Medina. (Muhummad was a petty warlord and camel-train raider.) And many of these passages are not printable on a family website. And if you mix all of that together – voilla, you have the K. It is not very inspirational.
R

MarkW
Reply to  ralfellis
November 16, 2015 6:50 am

Christians believe that it is God who will bring about Armageddon and that there is nothing man can do to change the time table already set down by God.

emsnews
November 16, 2015 3:37 am

In the past, this site was very careful to not box itself in, politically. Appeals to rational thinking were the key point, using only science and clarity.
The dangers of writing about the political scene in general is divisive and counter productive. It will divide, not unite. Another point here: the people threatening all humanity with nuclear war are the leaders of the top nuclear power nations, that is, European governments, US governments, Russian and Chinese governments all going at each other in one way or another and slipping into WWIII.
This is a political problem due to no one wanting to disarm first.
And we are so used to this which has existed only in the last 60 years, we don’t even think about this anymore.

David A
Reply to  emsnews
November 16, 2015 5:35 am

Disarming first could well precipitate WW three. “MAD” is an effective policy, terrible, scary, but effective. The nuclear genie cannot be put back in the bag, but effort must be made to prevent insane dark age ideology from acquiring nuclear weapons, because “MAD” will not be effective with the insane.
In the US we have a political party blaming rule the world dark age ideology on CAGW. That is news WUWT is, IMV, obligated to cover.

ferdberple
Reply to  emsnews
November 16, 2015 6:40 am

This is a political problem due to no one wanting to disarm first.
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Wolves do not attack sheep that are protected by dogs. If the sheep disarm, by removing the dog’s teeth, the wolves will attack.
All predators (including people) pick on the weak. They avoid a fight with someone able to defend themselves.
As Sun Tzu taught more than 2000 years ago. The Art of War is to prepare for War, so that you can avoid War. Your enemies must always be convinced that should they attack you, they would be destroyed.

MarkW
Reply to  emsnews
November 16, 2015 6:53 am

The idiocy of the left knows no bounds.
1) It is the left that is pushing the AGW lunacy.
2) Just having nuclear weapons means you are threatening the world with annihilation? I suppose you are one of those guys who feels threatened every time he sees a gun?
3) It’s your style of pacifism that led to WWII, and it will probably cause WWIII as well. Not those evil people with weapons.

richard verney
November 16, 2015 3:57 am

I am not particularly interested in the political leaning articles, and much prefer the science. I would be happy to see almost no political led articles, but that said, I consider Climate Change to be 85% political, about 14% poor science, and about 1% (or less) solid science.
Given the politicalised nature of cAGW, and Climate Change, it is impossible to stick entirely to the science and to completely ignore the underlying politics that drive this forward.

November 16, 2015 4:14 am

Of course Sanders believes in CAGW – he “feels the burn”!

Mickey Reno
November 16, 2015 4:36 am

Bernie Sanders is comfortable with and 100% sure that he won’t be the Democratic nominee. He’s now simply trying to make the Primary race appear to be a serious competition, as opposed to a Hillary coronation and posterior buss-fest. Not coincidentally, this is a same tack the dominant left-leaning mass media takes toward Hillary. Oh sure, they’ll take a few gentle jabs at her, to make in look like they’re not completely partisan and in the tank for her. Then they’ll endorse her and slam the Republicans.

H.R.
Reply to  Mickey Reno
November 16, 2015 6:36 am

Mickey,
The way I see it is much the same as you do. Bernie Sanders was put up to this just to make Empress Hillary look palatable in comparison. This gives the Dems a choice of the loon or the liar and since the end justifies the means, the liar should be the shoe-in nominee.
Oops! But… Clinton has so many negatives among Democrats that the primary voters may just go with the loon. And there are enough Democrats that see Bernie as only slightly left of center that he’s not considered a loon by a larger number of progressives.
You and I agree, Mickey, on what seems to be the obvious strategy being pursued by the Dems, but what if it turns out that they picked the wrong guy and Bernie wins in the primaries? Things could get really interesting, eh?

November 16, 2015 5:57 am

Re: Bernie Sanders & AGW 11/15/15:
Obama is losing the War on Terror,
Obama lost the War in Iraq,
Obama is losing the War in Afghanistan, his favorite war,
Obama is losing the Cold War.
Soviet Socialists have reason to hope,
National Socialists have reason to hope,
all Socialists have reason to hope.
Bernie Sanders has reason to hope.
Climate Changes (Change’s) everything.

Samuel C. Cogar
Reply to  Jeff Glassman
November 17, 2015 4:20 am

Losing a War is good, …… when you do it to protect and embolden “your own” without causing harm to yourself.

Reply to  Jeff Glassman
November 17, 2015 7:44 am

Re: Samuel C. Cogar 11/17/15 0420:
Losing a War is good, …… when you do it to protect and embolden “your own” without causing harm to yourself.
As Rick said, “We’ll always have Paris.” Or Benghazi. Or 9-11. Or Klinghoffer. The list seems endless. See David A’s short list, above. 11/16/2015 05:23 am.
Cogar reminds me of Nina Conti’s Granny, who said that her departed husband, Frank, was a comedian. Told jokes during the war. Then, sadly, the war ended.
Otherwise, his comment is indecipherable, Obamese.
Obama, whose universal active verb is “make sure [shore]”. Does no one else hear this ingrained signal of incompetence?

Samuel C. Cogar
Reply to  Jeff Glassman
November 18, 2015 4:38 am

Jeff G,
If one never tells a lie …. then they won’t have to unlie it.
It is quite obvious that you deciphered my comment the second you read it.
Me positive your subconscious mind “triggered” your silly conscious response of an “Oh my gawd” self-realization.
Cheers

Resourceguy
November 16, 2015 6:20 am

Bernie is still in character. Don’t wake him up.

November 16, 2015 7:11 am

Re: MarkW 11/16/15 0634:
If outlawing guns is supposed to end gun violence, why don’t we just outlaw terrorists?
Democrats push gun control; create gun-free sanctuary cities, schools, restaurants, theaters, malls, arenas, churches; maniacs come dancing out of the woodwork to shoot up the soft targets.
Obama withdraws the boots, terrorists attack, Obama sends in the dress shoes. International gun control in full bloom.

November 16, 2015 7:18 am

Democrats such as Sanders and Obama are terrorism deniers.
Bob Clark

Luke
November 16, 2015 7:25 am

Sanders isn’t alone in arguing that climate change has the potential to make international conflicts worse. According to Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, “Extreme weather, climate change, and public policies that affect food and water supplies will probably create or exacerbate humanitarian crises and instability risks.” The Department of Defense says that climate change “poses immediate risks to U.S. national security” and has the potential to exacerbate terrorism. There’s also substantial evidence that drought linked to climate change helped spark Syria’s civil war.

RACookPE1978
Editor
Reply to  Luke
November 16, 2015 7:34 am

Luke: Oboma’s political minions – at ANY government-paid level in ANY current government bureaucracy! – are not a source of truth about anything.

Luke
Reply to  RACookPE1978
November 16, 2015 12:45 pm

Oh I see. If government scientists or administrators suggest that global warming will have negative consequences they are political hacks. If they present information that suggests the some impacts of climate change may be less dire (Zwally’s recent paper for instance) there is no questioning of their results. That is the definition of hypocrisy.

RACookPE1978
Editor
Reply to  Luke
November 16, 2015 1:00 pm

Yes, government bureaucrats,”educators” and “scientists” have been paid 92 billions the past 3 years alone to spread their hypocritical propaganda. You can buy a lot of “democrat government politicians” for 31 trillion in carbon trading futures, and even some more for 1.3 trillion in new carbon taxes.
And they can be, and they enthusiastically are, being bought and paid for.

simple-touriste
Reply to  RACookPE1978
November 16, 2015 1:02 pm

No, Luke, you really don’t see anything.
Did you manage to fail to notice the Climategate and the “Cause”? Did you manage to fail to notice the systematic distortion of climate science, or what passes for science, by the Obama administration?
Are you for real?

dp
Reply to  Luke
November 16, 2015 10:52 am

Thankfully the climate is rather stable. When it does change it looks like this:
http://hugefloods.com/Scablands.html

AndyJ
Reply to  dp
November 16, 2015 2:25 pm

That’s from when the ice from the last glaciation melted. Impressive.

catweazle666
Reply to  Luke
November 16, 2015 11:23 am

“Sanders isn’t alone in arguing that climate change has the potential to make international conflicts worse.”
Of course he isn’t.
There is an inexhaustible supply of credulous alarmists, and there always will be.
We will never reach peak stupid.

simple-touriste
November 16, 2015 8:14 am

François Hollande just finished his boring speech in front of the whole Parlement, the “congress” (Assemblée nationale + Sénat).
The speech was silly and ignorant, confusing security and safety: in the Constitution “sûreté, résistance à l’oppression” doesn’t mean “security”. Safety means the protection against abuse by the State. Security is something else; either this buffoon doesn’t understand the difference or he hopes we don’t.
I lost track but
he managed to end with something about the cleanness of the planet.
Note: The constitutional reform wanted by Sarkozy created the right for the President to talk in front of the congress. The President cannot enter the Parliament and talk, according to the Constitution, he is the only citizen who cannot enter (following a fear of a potential wannabe dictator getting full power). When Sarkozy proposed that the President could make ONE speech in front of “le congrès” there was a lot of criticisms and the constitutional reform was described as one for a dictator.
But yesterday the President declared State of emergency which creates a right to control the medias.
The reform of the Constitution by Sarkozy was probably the most significant reform of these last years, and the greatest increase of individual rights. Only now people are beginning to say so, because they hate Sarkozy so much (for good reasons) they couldn’t say so before.

TRM
November 16, 2015 8:33 am

How long before this bunch force us into drinking Guyana Punch to “save the planet”?

AndyJ
Reply to  TRM
November 16, 2015 2:27 pm

When they realize all animal life creates CO2 with every breath we take.

Bruce Cobb
November 16, 2015 8:50 am

The “threat” of manmade climate change, which is what they always mean by “climate change” is pure myth, so the climate liar’s use of a “national security threat” due to “climate change” is a ploy, meant to trade on people’s fears of terrorism. Pushed to it’s logical conclusion, those who “deny climate change” could then be considered as “security threats” or worse.

AndyJ
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 16, 2015 2:29 pm

I’ve already been called a “traitor to humanity” for pointing out that plants love CO2. It’s only a matter of time before they demand we be jailed for not worshipping in their insane cult…oh wait, that has already begun.

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