From the UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHAMPTON and the “lets study science fiction by using climate model fiction” department.
Could ‘The Day After Tomorrow’ happen?
A researcher from the University of Southampton has produced a scientific study of the climate scenario featured in the disaster movie ‘The Day After Tomorrow’.
In the 2004 film, climate warming caused an abrupt collapse of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (AMOC), leading to catastrophic events such as tornados destroying Los Angeles, New York being flooded and the northern hemisphere freezing.
Although the scientific credibility of the film drew criticism from climate scientists, the scenario of an abrupt collapse of the AMOC, as a consequence of anthropogenic greenhouse warming, was never assessed with a state-of-the-art climate model.
Using the German climate model ECHAM at the Max-Planck Institute in Hamburg, Professor Sybren Drijfhout from Ocean and Earth Science at the University of Southampton found that, for a period of 20 years, the earth will cool instead of warm if global warming and a collapse of the AMOC occur simultaneously. Thereafter, global warming continues as if the AMOC never collapsed, but with a globally averaged temperature offset of about 0.8°C.

Professor Drijfhout said: “The planet earth recovers from the AMOC collapse in about 40 years when global warming continues at present-day rates, but near the eastern boundary of the North Atlantic (including the British Isles) it takes more than a century before temperature is back to normal.”
Interestingly, the effect of atmospheric cooling due to an AMOC collapse is associated with heat flow from the atmosphere into the ocean, which has been witnessed during the climate hiatus of the last 15 years.
Professor Drijfhout added: “When a similar cooling or reduced heating is caused by volcanic eruptions or decreasing greenhouse emissions the heat flow is reversed, from the ocean into the atmosphere. A similar reversal of energy flow is also visible at the top of the atmosphere. These very different fingerprints in energy flow between atmospheric radiative forcing and internal ocean circulation processes make it possible to attribute the cause of a climate hiatus period.”
However, the study, which appears in Scientific Reports, says that the recent period of very weak warming cannot be attributed to one single cause. Most probably El Niño plays a role and possibly also changes in the Southern Ocean due to shifting and increasing westerlies.
Professor Sybren said: “It can be excluded, however, that this hiatus period was solely caused by changes in atmospheric forcing, either due to volcanic eruptions, more aerosols emissions in Asia, or reduced greenhouse gas emissions. Changes in ocean circulation must have played an important role. Natural variations have counteracted the greenhouse effect for a decade or so, but I expect this period is over now.”
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So their rule of thumb is warming is always anthropogenic and cooling is always natural variation. Got it.
Durr…how long did it take you to work that out?
AND, a storm, hurricane, sea surge, big freeze, heat wave, drought (etc) that happens is proof of extreme weather. but an absence of such a phenomena for a record period is not of any interest at all.
AND, a record low arctic sea ice is proof of climate change, but a record high antarctic sea ice is proof of climate change.
AND, if a major climatologist questions the “consensus” on climate change then she is only expressing her personal opinion, but if a non-scientist spouts a load of crap at a conference of insurance professionals then he is making a newsworthy public pronouncement.
etc etc.
In short – heads they win, tails we lose.
But, hell, even if the “science” IS utterly shoddy, we may yet discover that CO2 emmissions really ARE going to lead us towards therma-geddon.
Maybe, somebody should try doing some real science so that we can figure out whether there really might be a possibility of that happening.
But frankly, I have no idea how a person would embark upon such a task!!
Yes, they intentionally reject that the most warming during this interglacial occurred when man was in the neolithic and bronze ages.
So if it warms, it will be due to global warming. But if it cools, it will also be due to global warming unless the cooling continues for more than 40 years. Do I have that right?
The only other thing that could happen is for temperatures to stay about the same as they are. If that happens, will they still be able to fit that into their theory and claim we’re all doomed? I wish they would tell us if there is anything that could happen that would not be a cause for alarm. They won’t do that because they have no idea what’s going to happen next, and their paychecks depend on keeping us alarmed. So they have to be able to paint whatever happens with the climate as potentially catastrophic. If we’re not alarmed, we’ll find better places than climate research to spend our money. And that, in their minds, would be the biggest catastrophe of all.
“The only other thing that could happen is for temperatures to stay about the same as they are. If that happens,”
you get a rising trend in temperature ad infinitum:
‘correct’ the current temperatures up and the past ones back down.
What’s next is a glaciation. They won’t make any money telling people they’ll have to eventually evacuate Canada.
for a break
billy J
we didn’t start the fire. enjoy
michael
Please see the circulation in the lower stratosphere.
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/70hPa/orthographic=-330.00,85.56,396
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/stratosphere/strat_a_f/gif_files/gfs_o3mr_05_nh_f00.png
All he’s doing is demonstrating that the model is programmed to heat up.
He hasn’t demonstrated what he thinks he has.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34486757
A message from the eemian interglacial.
“Some of the bones, found in Victoria Cave in the dales, date back more than one hundred thousand years, when these creatures roamed northern England.”
“Natural variations have counteracted the greenhouse effect for a decade or so, but I expect this period is over now.”
This statement alone show how little the paper’s authors know about what is happening to our climate and what may lie ahead.
Here is what is still happening and likely to continue for the next many decades . The global land areas are continuing to cool or flat. These climate troughs last for 30-40 years
• Global -0.02 C/decade (flat)
• Northern Hemisphere -0.05 C/decade (flat)
• Southern Hemisphere +0.06 C/decade (flat)
• North America -0.41 C/decade (cooling)
• Asia -0.31 C/decade (cooling)
• Europe + 0.39 C /decade (warming)*
• Africa + 0.08 C/decade (flat)
• Oceania + 0.07C /decade (flat)
*The European warming is due to warming of one year only(2014) The temperature anomalies for the period 2005-2013 were also flat (- 0.02 C/decade)
Global Land Winter temperature anomalies have been trending down since 1997 or 19 years for all regions of the globe
• GLOBAL -0.01 C/ decade (flat)
• NORTHERN HEMISPHERE -0.09 C/decade (flat)
• NORTH AMERICA -0.54 C/decade( cooling)
• ASIA -0.49 C/ decade(cooling)
• EUROPE -0.05 C/ decade (flat)
I actually DID speculate about science fiction weather in Larry Niven’s “Ringworld”. Aliens with a super technology created an artificial ring, with high walls to hold in the atmosphere,, orbiting a star about the same luminosity as our sun at the same distance as our earth. There were large panels orbiting above the ring to give the inhabitants of the disc a day and a night. What kind of climate would the residents of the ring have? There wouldn’t be seasons unless the ring bobbed above and below the plane of orbit.
There wouldn’t be hadley circulation- how would sailboats operate?- I guess there might be a day/night differential in land/sea heating as on earth, with winds blowing seaward during the day and landward at night. Would that be enough to provide plenty of rain, or would “Ringworld” be mostly desert?
I’ve been wishing I could read something on Ringworld’s climate from someone who actually knew some meteorology.
Speaking of climate fiction, I hear Disney will be coming out with a new animated film called “Boiled”. It will have a princess (of course) with CO2-fuelled thermogenic powers, along with a prince, and odious characters aligned with Big Bad Oil and Evil Skeptics who care only about money, not saving the planet.
The kiddies will love it.