Guest Post by Bob Tisdale
Link to More on Miriam O’Brien’s HotWhopper. Please add it to your favorites.
The following is a cross post of the introductory post at MoreOnMiriam’s:
You can call this new blog a spawn of a spawn, if you like. Miriam O’brien (also known as blogger Sou) was banished from WattsUpWithThat (WUWT) a couple of years ago for being a troll. Since then, her blog HotWhopper has acquired new focuses: authors of the posts at WattsUpWithThat and the visitors there.
In this post, I’m not going to express my opinions on the general debate tactics Miriam O’Brien uses at her blog HotWhopper. If you’ve made it here, you understand. But I will say…
In addition to arguing about the content of a WUWT blog post, Miriam O’Brien had amazed many people with her quoting the comments from the thread and then remarking about them.
But Miriam O’Brien has now reached a new level of rudeness by writing posts, not about the content of the WUWT posts themselves, but solely about the comments on threads. The following are two (archived) examples:
Please understand I’m not defending the comments Miriam has chosen, and I definitely am NOT agreeing with her. I simply find her tactic incredibly rude. It’s that new level of rudeness that prompted me to create this blog.
The comments are open here [at MoreOnMiriam’s]. I am not going to moderate each comment, but comments with 3 or more links will be held for moderation, so keep that in mind. In fact, there may be many threads on which I elect not to comment. Anyone is welcome to comment, but remember, if you have to rely on ad homs and rudeness, you’ve lost the argument. Not only are comments open to visitors at WattsUpWithThat, they’re also open to those who normally visit Miriam O’Brien’s HotWhopper. As I said before, anyone is welcome to comment.
Every day I will wander over to HotWhopper and I will prepare a very simple blog post. The title of my blog post will be the same as Miriam O’Brien’s at HotWhopper, but I’ll preface it with “Miriam O’Brien says”. The content of my blog post will then be very simple. I’ll list and link the WUWT blog post Miriam has chosen to argue about. Then I’ll provide a link to an archived version of Miriam’s post. Visitors here at MoreOnMiriamO’Brien’s can then read Miriam O’Brien’s post without sending her any traffic. Bloggers from WUWT can also see if Miriam O’Brien has chosen to attack their comments.
I will end each post with (in boldface):
The comments are open…there’s no moderation, except for comments with 3 or more links. Please refrain from ad hominem comments.
See the first post:
Miriam O’Brien says: Deniers are weird at WUWT. ENSO is a BoM conspiracy!
That’s it. A nice, simple format. A place is now open for people from WUWT and HotWhopper to communicate directly with one another.
Y’all have a nice day, now.
Bob Tisdale
Sorry, Bob. Waste of my time to read such drivel.
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If you wrestle a pig, you both get covered in mud, but the pig likes it. Just sayin’
I was going to make the observation that Ms. O’Brian’s blog is something of a “remora” blog, living off the success of the much more successful WUWT. But that would make WUWT a “shark” blog and MOMOH. . . well, I guess an endoparasite blog. Perhaps like a tapeworm. (Sigh) Metaphors can be so obstreperous.
With luck her blog will just direct more traffic to blogs like WUWT and Mr. Tisdale’s. Something like a “reverse barometer”.
There go those metaphors again.
No idea why you would waste your time. And why allow comments in the first place? The only purpose for such a blog would be to refute her asinine perspectives, and you don’t need a comment field for that – just write the facts. She’ll have to take exception in her own blog. You’re trying to put lipstick on a pig, and it still won’t result in a date..
It will consume far more of your time than you think. Because it will be basically two mobs yelling across the street at one another, you’ll have to referee, and because of the nature of the dialogue, you may have to do it in court. You’re guaranteed to drive traffic to her site, which will make her money if she figures it out, and voila, you wind up with another Ariana Huffnpuff.. .
Ask yourself – do you really want to waste more of your valuable time with people who have nothing better to do than sit at their computers all day and bitch about the neighbourhood? You can educate the uninformed, but you can’t fix stupid. That’s Darwin’s job.
Maybe the idea is that encouraging such a wally into the front line will weaken their defences?
I don’t approve.
It’s not worth claiming victory because you can out-debate Sou.
MCourtney Hi.
I may be wrong,but I think Bob Tisdale is up to something other than out debating Sou. He plans on corrupting her followers. They are the target. Think about it, an open forum no Sou to control the debate, to block information to her readers. They come to this venue determined to setting straight the ignorant sceptics yes? And what will they find. You all of you, reasonable intelligent human beings. Bob I think is planning of converting Sou’s followers. It would be fun.
Sorry, Mike the Morlock. I’m not interested in converting anyone to anything.
thank you for responding.Bob, Well that assumption crashed and burned. I have been a lurker for over a year, and have learned a great deal from you. Thank you. And its simple mike or michael. I just alway liked H.G. Wells
Mike,
You should enjoy working your way through the usual Bob Tisdale 20-figure photon torpedo salvo of data figure post broadside just to obliterate any notion of CAGW alarmism.
Tried looking at some of the links provided. It’s too confusing to get involved with comments on her blog or the new blog – just too hard to keep track about who said what and why.
omg. this interweb thingy is doing my head in.
in the olden days, we would go around to Miriams gaff and wee on her flowers
Bob, I tried but could not develop an interest in reading anything from the HW blog. It all seemed rather pointless and petty. I have trouble enough with keeping an eye on NOAA/CPC take on ENSO probabilities. No interest in BOM either, they are a bit too far away from the west coast. I just wish we would have a darn El Nino.
Just spent two weeks in Hawaii on the Big Island enjoying the after affects of a lot of rain over the past several months, everything greened up and lush looking especially on the dry side of the island, They have certainly experienced and insipient El Nino but driving back across California into Nevada last night and this morning those effects have not reached the west coast. Just a dusting of snow in the high mountains, Looks like another dry winter coming for the west coast.
As of November 17th, NOAA/CPC still giving it 58% odds happening though.
Cold Side,
You write “…still giving it 58% odds…”
This number is part of a monthly update on the first Thursday.
The next one should be posted on December 4th.
At least I think that is what they do.
Dry Side John (but getting rained on right now)
east of the Cascade Crest in Washington State
dry winter coming for California, the northern states have a much greater chance at getting wet this winter.
Why is this woman getting any attention at all from WUWT; put her on ignore please.
Sue (Sow, Sou, Miriam, etc) is the classic uninformed, uneducated, scientifically illiterate, pseudo-intellectual, emotionally invested team member who claims the ability to divine the truth of physics arguments thru ad hominem (as opposed to PDE).
(snicker, tee hee, snicker). If she wasn’t doing this Earth-mother “save the world” stuff, she’d have 187 cats.
Call me crazy, but people ALWAYS take time to look at a wreck on the highway; same thing happening here.
On a more serious note, Alexa (http://www.alexa.com) indicates she’s the 295,000th most visited site on the web. That’s just below “www. how to build an ebola contamination suit out of used toilet paper. com”.
I don’t understand the attraction. Why shine a spotlight on this nut case?
Well Bob, by now you’ve read enough to know that this is not a good idea.
1] we all (weelll… maybe Sow don’t) respect Bob and what he does. If he wants to do this, that’s his call. And if it fails/blowsback in some weird way, then we should be there to help/catch him. Old Chinese saying: “not look, not see,– not explore, not find.’ Of course, if get into water with nasty crocodile……..
But, Geoff, I’m not getting in the water. I’m just opening the pool.
Cheers.
Bob,
When Miriam O Brien is able to produce the quality of work you produce, I will then consider her a relevant commentator. Until then however, I have no interest in what she has to offer. Personally, I wouldn’t allow her two minuets in my head.
BTW, can I mention the site stats? Well on the way to the big 3.
Best regards, Eamon.
LOl, ”Minutes” even.
Eamon, I liked the thought of minuets, too…kind of like a slow, pompous square dance.
Why are you giving this nutcase publicity? Ignore her.
I suggest you get rid of this blog about another blog. Her thoughts are clearly dominated by WUWT on a daily basis. I read some of her stuff. it’s baffling and pointless. . I think WUWT has won, she is consumed by it and thrashing around impotently in her blog. I find it extremely petty to engage at her level and give her any form of recognition. I generally find that people like her are more distressed at being ignored as irrelevant than attacked.
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Agree with David.
I wonder if Miriam is Irish or whether that O’Brien comes from a spouse?
My grandmother came from Éire.
Miriam and I could be related. Uff da!
Miriam, does Béal an Átha Móir bring a glow to your heart?
No. Okay then. Likely we are are not close.
Some days I wonder if I am the only sane one left in the world… Then I read things that make me loose faith in the human race… While other things I read make me wonder.. Then I laugh at some who like to poke and prod..
Belittling commenters… That’s a-kin to pond scum becoming methane gas.. Don’t light a match… OR….. maybe we should? I can’t decide.
I think Bob has placed torch near the pond and he is waiting to see what happens…. 🙂
Sorry Bob,but this is one blog I will not visit again,since this woman has NO redeeming quality for me to benefit from.
I continue to wonder why Bob Tisdale feeds a troll.
Bob, take a stress pill and think things over. Stop, Bob. Stop.
Or just give them more rope ?
I’m not sure either.
Actually, her posting and commenting on past WUWT comments is GREAT NEWS! Like MSNBC and CNN rebroadcasting and critiquing (with accompanying flawed internal logic and inconsistent facts) FOX broadcasts, this is a clear admission of WUWT’s and its commentators’ GLOBAL effectiveness in winning the argument. When the “climate scientists” resort to ad hominem attacks and abandon logic, they are clearly grasping at straws! You have them on their heels! As they say, “If you’re drawing flack, you’re over the target!”
If she represents the average alarmist’s social skills, the temperature isn’t perhaps the only a plateau we may be witnessing. In any case, this lipstick wearing little granny in a photo-studio seems quite far off from the usual http://tinyurl.com/kapuuns.
Dont.Feed.The.Troll
Idiocy often hits a nerve, Mark.
Relax, and listen to another Idle…